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Xbox is on track to knock Sony PlayStation down to third place for the first time in history

With combined Activision and Xbox revenues, Sony PlayStation may be looking at a third-place spot behind Microsoft for the first time.

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Jin_Sakai175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

Sure thing windowscentral.com. We all believe your biased nonsense. Microsoft will never beat Sony or Nintendo at making great games. And that’s what matters to gamers, not revenue.

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PrinceOfAnger175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

Is the order , days gone , death stranding, better than gears 5 or Quantum break ?
Is knack 2 better than Ori ? ..
Is driveclub better than Horizon 5 ?
is any killzone game better than Halo in sales and metacritic score? Nah..

"Forza M7 wins TGA award for best racing game over GT Sport."

Still no sony game got 97mc like halo

TheLordOfStuff175d ago

Days gone was great, you obviously never played it lol

But yeah, just very selective with your titles there, no God of war, spiderman or tlou for a start, that you jez??

🤣🤣

P_Bomb175d ago

“Still no sony game got 97mc like halo”

What’s the argument here? That Uncharted 2’s 96% is suddenly dogshit 🧐?

Hofstaderman175d ago

Which Halo and how long ago was that? Because Halo in its current state is dogshit.

Rimeskeem175d ago

No MS or Sony game has beaten Soulcaliber on Dreamcast sooooo

ChasterMies175d ago

“Is the order , days gone , death stranding, better than gears 5 or Quantum break ?”

What a strange comparison. If comparing Sony studio games versus Microsoft Studio games, yes, Days Gone is better than Gear 5. And Spider-Man 2 is better than Starfield. And Horizon Forbidden West is better than Halo Infinite. Unfortunately, I can do this all day.

PapaBop175d ago

That's some serious copium.. name me one Microsoft developed game that was a genuine GOTY contender in the last decade.

Vengeance1138175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

How's Redfall working out for you kid? Hahahaha 🤣 $7B buys you Redfall. So well spent.
I guess you're living under a rock, cause Halo as a franchise is 6 feet under DEAD.

shinoff2183175d ago

Soul caliber was good if your into fighting games but how long could you seriously play that over and over. Idk I'm just not a huge fan of fighting, enjoyed mk in its early years when I was new etc

GhostScholar175d ago

Knack 2 is definitely not better than ori

GhostScholar175d ago

Days gone is one of the most underrated games of all time. It’s my favorite PlayStation exclusive. I think it’s better in every way than the last of us.

Crows90175d ago

The order not so much but the other yes...by a mile.

Knack 2 isn't a Sony focused platformer. That would be ratchet and clank...overall different games regardless. Ori is great. Stop comparing the small half ass attempts to Xbox heavy hitting attempts which barely reach.

Drive club and horizon...you'd have to ask a gamer who cares about racing games.

Killzone is overall much better than halo...maybe not the multiplayer though. Halo infinite sucks ass.

Halo...the original one was already in development by Bungie before acquisition. Halo is a Microsoft bought IP...not a Microsoft made IP.

__SteakDeck__175d ago

@PrinceofAnger You really had to go back to a game that released 22 years ago. 😂 It got a 97 Meta with only 68 reviews, I bet that it released today as a brand new game it doesn’t get that.

ThePacemaker175d ago

The order was only published by SIE, the team behind it now belong to Meta. Why being selective with titles? Why no mention of Uncharted 2? TLOU? GOW? ICO? shadow of colossus? Ghost of Tsushima?

Xbox fan girls at it again 😂. Be a gamer for once and think out of the box. A Blindfolded xbot.

Binarycode175d ago

Never been into Halo, First was ok. But same old sht different day.

GTSport spanks every Forza game end of. Forza isn't a sim. never will be, and this years version is worse.

But those top games are soo old it's comical.

Metacritic is an average, nothing more. Some sites are more xbox, some more sony, ninty.

To have fair scores all round you'd have to the exact same sites, the same reviewers and see what scores you get.

Lastly.

TLOU, Uncharted1,2,3,4 are better then 99% of games on that list, Then there's the quality of Spiderman, Horizon, GT, etc.

Mentioning Knack was funny though.

LBP was better then most Platform games and is up there with Mario imo.

Driveclub is a great game and has higher quality car models then most racing games today.

Angyobangyo175d ago

Halo hasn't been good since Bungie left and will never reach a 97 on MC ever again. Enjoy mediocrity under 343.

Everything you mentioned is from year ago. Please insert some current gen Xbox titles into your argument and let's see where that goes. Is Redfall better than......well the only thing it's better than is Gollum and King Kong.

jambola175d ago

"critics like my game more than yours"
Good job bud 👍

PrinceOfAnger175d ago

"Days Gone Director says that Metacritic scores matter more than sales to Sony"
..

X-23174d ago (Edited 174d ago )

Oh god, just stop. The amount of delusion there is just mind numbingly bad and outrageously bias.

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Iceman_Nightmare174d ago

As someone who owns an XBOX and Gaming PC, meaning I have no reason to be called a Sony fanboy. I will tell you that comment is full of SHIT.

Microsoft will never make games that are up to pair with Sony and Nintendo exclusives. And even if they have some straight up bangers, is because they are going around buying all the big multiplatform game studios.

I personally don't mind, since I get most of them on XBOX game pass.

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Babadook7175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

Yeah.

And to answer the biased claim of windows central directly; how long before Microsoft passes Sony in gaming revenue when subtracting publisher purchases? 10 years maybe?

PhillyDonJawn175d ago

Idk about that. Ps fanboys bring up numbers constantly

ApocalypseShadow175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

Yeah. Because those real, factual numbers are the ones that are whooping Microsoft's ass. Not those bullshit player metrics Microsoft comes up with.

9 million consumers downloading something to try isn't the same as 10 million gamers buying games.

Only thing Microsoft has beaten Sony on is lies, misleading statements and misdirects.

Your disagree won't change the facts. Microsoft has gotten their ass whooped 4 times. Microsoft has never won a game generation. But keep bullshitting.

LoLCryBabyGamers175d ago

Xbox fans praising xbox for what? they spent roughly 80 billion on studios and so far, all they produced is straight trash... they need a service to even be remotely competitive. Xbots praising them like there gonna rule the gaming marklet buuuut yet game pass doesn't grow much and console sales are meh.. But nintendo and sony continue to sell at high rates......

Chevalier175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

Yeah, but, this is the equivalent of having your family buy you an expensive car you don't deserve and pretending you earned it. Except you didn't work for it.

Aloymetal175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

The green camp never disappoints, soon you'll be hearing...''Great GOTY contender games are not important, only how much money my preferred platform has in the bank''
You can't make this shit up lmao.
On a side note, it ONLY took 20+ yrs for a trillion dollar company and 80 billions to have a shot, and hope of dethroning PlayStation... Let's dream....

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MrNinosan175d ago

@Ufsuex
Xbox doesn't do more revenue and profit than Playstation.
However Microsoft does, but always did, so nothing new.

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Rocketisleague175d ago

It might not matter to gamers, but it matters to sony abd thus should matter to gamers, since in the end it affects us all.

S2Killinit175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

And they forget that the majority of Activision sales were on PlayStation.

Also: “windows central” yes we can believe those guys Im sure there is no reason they may twist numbers…

thesoftware730175d ago

Haha, so all the revenue and sales articles that you and a few other here flock to over every single week is now irrelevant?

Revenue don't matter now?

You need revenue to make good games right? That has been said many times by people on here ..now it don't matter to you?

Andrew336175d ago

Actually revenue is what people on here seem to worry about more than games. Especially the fan boys.

jambola175d ago

But xboxworld.com and Microsoftnews.org also agree 😤

Rynxie174d ago

Yeah, took Xbox (and daddy Ms) close to a hundred billion just to try and compete. That's Ms stragey. Can't innovate? Can't buyout your competition? Then monopolize the industry.

itsmebryan174d ago

@Jin
Never say Never. Remember they said revenue not console sales.

What is the next great title from Playstation. TLOU2 again? How old is that game now ?

With all of Microsoft 's studios they can produce a lot of revenue. Is the new COD selling poorly ?

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Obscure_Observer175d ago

Xbox is already making more operating income (profit) out of revenues than Playstation according to FTC documents, now with both Bethesda and Activision, the gap will grow even bigger.

This is nothing but expected.

https://gameranx.com/wp-con...

Sony is making the more revenue out of the big three, but at the same time seeing less profit margins.

shinoff2183175d ago

It would make sense for ms to make more money. They own more. Even before the acti deal they so desperately supposedly needed.

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Sephiroushin175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

you talking about profit of xbox dividion lol how cute.. if that's the case they have to break even first smh 69b, that will take a few years to break even, at least 10 years and that if the activision do not decay like everything MS touch

Miraak82 175d ago

I know right haha ...and Sony's still getting a 30% cut off those CoD sales which is where it sells most lol

killacal13175d ago

I always say that Microsoft has the reverse Midas touch, everything they touch turns to sh1t, look at Rare, do they do anything anymore? I personally love Sony because they always provided me with games I enjoy, Microsoft on the other hand just comes to try to monopolize the industry, they won't be able to BTW.

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Gamingsince1981175d ago

Azanar no one is even playing sea of thieves

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crazyCoconuts174d ago

@azanar, saying that everything Naughty Dog touches turns to sh@t really doesn't help your case

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Babadook7175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

Microsoft combines different markets into gaming to hide how bad they are behind. Playstation is far ahead, but you knew that, didn't you?

shinoff2183175d ago

Hence the like of any actual real numbers from ms aside from hours or how many spacecraft have been boarded.

TheLordOfStuff175d ago

Yeah hate to break it to you but this was made up on twitter and already disproved 🤣

The fact you got any upvotes for it it actually wild.

derek175d ago

@obscure, that nonsense claim has been debunked countless times.

Obscure_Observer175d ago

Talk is cheap.

Bring your sources.

sparky77175d ago

Yep if anyone would be leaving gaming it would be Sony

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Gamingsince1981175d ago

It's really gonna hurt you inside when xbox is a publisher in a couple years huh, better get those excuses ready though because we all know it's coming and so does MS.

sparky77175d ago

How? Everyone will be a publisher only in about 15/20 years time, consoles won't be needed forever.

Sony better hope they get acquired before that happens because it's Game Over for them at that point.

BlaqMagiq1175d ago

Ah, yes Sony the company destroying Xbox in console sales and amount of great games is going to be leaving gaming before Xbox. You keep thinking that. Get ready for 2027 when Xbox leaves the game industry, there's gonna be a lot of crying over here. And I will be here for it.

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ChasterMies175d ago

“Xbox is already making more operating income (profit) out of revenues than Playstation”

This is also bogus. Microsoft can use profits from Windows and Office to buy game studios and then say they are an asset to Microsoft and not count the $80B cost against profits from its Xbox game division. Microsoft has been floating Xbox from the beginning, and it’s possible the Xbox division has never actually made a profit for Microsoft. To be clear, Xbox is not a separate company. It’s not a subsidiary. It’s all Microsoft and Microsoft won’t profit from the Activision and Zenimax purchases for a long time.

Melankolis175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

Well yes, just as you said. Xbox will always be profitable because every spending is done by Microsoft, yet they include the revenue/profit for Xbox.
I don't know what the real financial report showed, but many people are misled by the narrration that Xbox profits 2nd largest while at the same time, buying Bethesda and Activision for almost 80b. That doesn't make any sense.

Gamingsince1981175d ago

All that money MS has and they still can't even buy a good game 🤣

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CombatEmu175d ago

That actually makes Xbox look worse. So even with this supposed greater "profit", the Xbox brand is still doing far worse than Playstation. You're basically arguing that Microsoft is an extremely inefficient spender.

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Einhander1972175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

It's not really in a meaningful way, Microsoft obviously already had more revenue than Sony. And if xbox actually reported it's finances properly and included the loss from buying Actvision it would be in the red for the next 20 years.

Get back to me when Microsoft is selling more consoles or selling more software.

BeHunted175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

Microsoft has billions in cash for acquisitions and investment, it wouldn't make sense to include the losses. They always put money to one side.

EasilyTheBest175d ago

In the red for the next 20 years?
That's not how it works. They now own Activision, Blizzard etc. They haven't lost money by buying them. It's an asset that is still worth Billions.

Hofstaderman175d ago

Sigh. XBOX is not MS. The mother body bought Activision. Dont you think they would want those billions back? This is the final push for GamePass. If theres no growth....well 2027.....

S2Killinit175d ago

They are in the red, as in, they have not made 70 Billion in revenue during their entire time in the industry. Not profit, Revenue! Let that sink in for a second.

EasilyTheBest175d ago

Hofstaserman, well if that's the case my point is still valid. The mother body as you put it needs to make the money back not Xbox.

Hofstaderman175d ago

@EasilyTheBest no corporation keeps a non profitable division around. Not indefinitely. It appears the XBOX division has been given a deadline. MS has been known to spend billions before and pull the plug on entire divisions when they do not perform. See Zune, Nokia etc. Remember XBOX was already on the chopping block and Satya threw them a preserver. Boards do not govern a company on goodwill, they govern on profit. XBOX obtaining Activision is their last chance. Mark my words you are seeing its final years.

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Snookies12175d ago

Income, sure. I seriously doubt they're going to be beating Sony in sales.

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Why Xbox believes it must cut costs and close studios

Companies, particularly public companies like Microsoft, need to grow.

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gold_drake4h ago

i mean its pretty simple, they spent close to 30 billion in acquiring activision, they thought they'd make it bk no problem, and that didnt happen.

its just shit that because of MS's miscalculation alot of people lost their jobs.

Jingsing54m ago

This is exactly what many people said would happen including the CMA and FTC. Lies lies and more lies and they allowed a $69 billion buy out to happen.

gold_drake46m ago

oh yeh it was 70 billion. that was my bad haha even worse.

thesoftware73044m ago(Edited 39m ago)

gold,

You can't be serious, right?

Do you think that MS thought they would make 80bill in a year & Half? They haven't even released titles under MS yet, lol.

But in fact, that A/B revenue is already paying off, look at the last earnings call. That $80 billion is long-term money, my guy, no sane person/company would think they would make that back in any short-term situation, it's a long-term investment.

Let's play silly then. If MS's reason for laying off staff and closing studios was due(which it really was not) to the A/B deal, tell me what Sony's reason was for past studio closures, the recent 900-person layoffs, closing Sony London, shutting down Dreams, and closing Japan Studio? Zipper? Psygnosis? cuts at all their internal studios.

Keep in mind, you are claiming MS's reason is because of the A/B deal; please explain Sony's reason.

Hofstaderman35m ago

You actually still defending them? Sheesh.....

gold_drake33m ago

this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt.

and of course not, but im pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. they didnt, and closed off some studios.

its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case.

romulus2326m ago(Edited 26m ago)

(It really was) due to the Activision Blizzard deal and the loss of physical sales due to gamepass. You keep bringing up Sony in all your posts about this, stop deflecting and trying to change the topic, this is about MS and what they are doing.

anast55m ago

They are going to use AI for a large portion of the game development process. Upper management need bonuses and the shareholders need more money. So, people will lose their jobs.

Skuletor45m ago

Maybe they were already using AI to make business decisions, which would explain why they closed Hi-Fi Rush's studio, then said they need more games like Hi-Fi Rush not long after that announcement.

Crows9013m ago(Edited 13m ago)

They shouldn't have bought any studios. Some is okay...but they went on a shopping spree...stupid

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Former Dragon Age lead writer David Gaider pours scorn on EA's AI dreams.

"They want you to believe the devs under them are super stoked to work generative AI into their processes," continued Gaider, "but I assure you what they took as excitement was really a veiled wail of despair not unlike the time that team was informed of their new 'really cool' live service mandate.".

LordoftheCritics2d ago

Publishers see gaming as another stock market.

isarai2d ago

I think anyone with some common sense knew this, im glad i don't support their games anymore, what a sh!t company.

Psychonaut852d ago

Friends don’t let friends buy EA or Ubisoft.

Chocoburger2d ago

I said this yesterday. AI isn't what we want when it comes to crafting artistry. Alas, these soulless corporate morons don't care about their work, only about cutting corners as much as possible.

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Phil Spencer and the Battle for Xbox’s Soul

Has the rapid growth of Xbox made the ship too heavy? Following the closures of Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, and Roundhouse, we explore what the future of Xbox could look like.

LG_Fox_Brazil2d ago

This ship was never meant to sail, this ship was made from the get go to sink as fast as possible. It almost feels that they want to lower the standards of quality in the industry so that they can fit in

rlow12d ago

I disagree, Xbox from the get go innovated and changed the industry. They did a lot of firsts and standardized a lot of others. It wasn’t till the beginning of the Xbox1 era that things started to go south.

Stevonidas2d ago

Yep, although I’d argue it started going to shit when they tried to hock Kinect on their audience instead of continuing to invest in their studios and IPs. 2001-2010 Xbox was peak gaming, though.

rlow11d 23h ago

@Stevonidas
I agree they never should have focused on it after the 360 era. But you do have to remember they were faked out by the huge volumes of Kinects sold. To quote info on Wikipedia, “Project Natal, It was first released on November 4, 2010, and would go on to sell eight million units in its first 60 days of availability.” So if your Xbox and see these huge sales on a peripheral where are you going to put some money? Criticism in hindsight is worthless…..if only we could all see our future. In other wards they had no way of knowing. Plus they had engagement numbers and a lot of signs pointed to people wanting it.

Their biggest mistake wasn’t the Kinect, but unlike Sony after the PS3 debacle. They didn’t double on down on exclusive good games. The other huge mistake was letting Call of Duty go to Sony.

Hedstrom2d ago

Phil wants Xbox to be as soulless as him!

Tacoboto2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox has no soul and Phil has no confidence, and it's impossible to say either do when they killed Tango and Arkane Austin.

Everything they've said since has only made them look worse to a point that they're actually less competent than Embracer.

Markdn2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Whe you release something like the series S and expect it not to hurt your business model, and developers have to have parity with games. Then you know Microsoft don't care. Series s is the final nail that broke developers,

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