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Destiny 2 developer Bungie is the latest studio to get hit by layoffs

Destiny 2 developer Bungie is the latest studio to get hit by a massive wave of layoffs, according to several reports.

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Whitey2k196d ago (Edited 196d ago )

I don't know if this has to be towards gass games or since Microsoft brought Activision knowing they wont get as much income as they originally get. Cost saving while staff get short end of the stick and get let go

Si-Fly196d ago

Did you really just manage to blame MS for job cuts at Bungie? 🤣

Crows90195d ago (Edited 195d ago )

Maybe they had no clue that Bungie has been independent for a while and is currently owned by Sony

Gamer75196d ago

Sony own Bungie so it has nothing to do with MS

Whitey2k195d ago

I think u all are misunderstanding me I'm not blaming Microsoft I'm on about the income that sony use to get from call of duty which they wont be getting anymore hence the layoffs by cutting staff

RAFTECH26195d ago

The PlayStation organization will never recover if MS acquires activision - Jim Ryan

Connect the dots!
The scary part….. is behaviour like this points to a fall out…… Sony is ripe to becoming acquired themselves.

Sephiroushin195d ago

On first emails that same Jim Ryan said that they would be okay, he was crying just like phill saying they would go out if they do not get x subs by 2027 which they would not because their target is unrealistic

Christopher196d ago

I expected this early next year near the release of Final Shape, not this early on.

Extermin8or3_196d ago

Maybe final shape is further ahead in dev than expected.

ChasterMies196d ago

Final Shaped pushed back to June, 2024, but reportedly not delayed because it needed more time. February and March have become a dumping ground for games, and June is a great window to avoid all that competition.

Gameseeker_Frampt195d ago

Except that Destiny 2 is a live-service game that depends on keeping to it's schedule. Seasons last 3 months each and only have enough content to keep players engaged for a few weeks. A four month content drought between the end of Season 23 and The Final Shape is not the best way to end the Darkness and Light Saga of Destiny 2, especially with how much of a disaster this year has been for the game.

Extermin8or3_196d ago

Completely unfounded assumption at the end if that article that sony's expansion in acquiring devs has come back to bite them. That laid doesn't stand up to even the most basic scrutiny. Who hires these morons to write for them and literally make up news?

Obscure_Observer195d ago

"Completely unfounded assumption at the end if that article that sony's expansion in acquiring devs has come back to bite them."

Sony paid $1.2 Billion to keep Bungie devs from leaving! That´s 1/3 worth of the whole deal!

To layoff Bungie developers this early after just one year as a Playstation first party studio is total disaster!

Something gone terrible wrong at Sony and its plans, and I think that´s is the reason behind Ryan´s "retirment".

Crows90195d ago

Exaggeration at its finest. Good job. Let's pretend there hasn't been a steady stream of layoffs everywhere.

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-Mika-196d ago (Edited 196d ago )

There is just straight up chaos and dysfunction at PlayStation studios currently. Why isn’t there more articles about this? If this was Xbox, we see hundreds of articles about how Phil needs to go. The double standards is insane.

P_Bomb196d ago

Eh. There’s always YouTube.

Petebloodyonion195d ago

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
That's the best answer I have seen for if you don't like what you're seeing well....

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH195d ago

You already know why there’s not more articles about this on N4G…

Redemption-64195d ago

You people live in some made-up bubble. Should we assume there is huge dysfunction at MS since they have laid off the most people? They recently also laid off close to 700 people at LinkedIn and very few even care, yet let Sony lay off 10-20 people, compared to Microsoft's 10,000+, and people like you want everyone to just focus on Sony, and not they one laying off the most amount

Lightning77195d ago

If Marathon is getting pushed back to 2025 it's way more than 10 to 20 ppl getting layed off.

Redemption-64195d ago

@Lightning77

Delays could literally be for anything, they can lay off 10 people and delay the game, hell, they can hire more people and still delay the game. Bungie specifically if I am not mistaken went on a hiring spree not too long ago. There have been a lot of lay offs across the industry. Epic, Sony, EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard and Microsoft have all had lay offs, as I mentioned before, with Microsoft laying off by far the most. There is a reason some specific group of fanboys only want articles about Sony. Hell they are commenting under said article, but want to see more

Christopher195d ago

You're literally reading the article and... How are they going to get rid of the guy already leaving?

Rude-ro195d ago

You say that…
Let’s see what you say when they do lay off tons of people next year and what the articles actually say.
Microsoft does not even spend money on their own beloved franchise…
Do you really think they are going to keep FOUR studios worth of paychecks alive to work on one ip? *cough cod.

You confuse people in comment sections over hit piece articles because Microsoft has their pockets in most of gaming journalism.

Shane Kim195d ago

Maybe because there isnt? Where is your proof?

Crows90195d ago

Except the CEO is gone. And people have been complaining about the gaas direction. And most Sony fans disliked the acquisition in the first place ...so no. Sorry the only double standard is with Xbox. Nothing yet from Sony fans except whatever you guys make up or imagine

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Square Enix Preparing for Layoffs in U.S. and Europe Amid Heavy Restructuring

In a town hall that took place on Monday, Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu reportedly confirmed imminent layoffs in the U.S. and Europe.

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lelo2play4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Square should ask Sony for more money...

gleepot4h ago

Sad but true. It's the consequence of a shift in player habits, massive overhead, and out of control budgets across the industry.

blackblades5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

What did NA and EU did anyways? Just translate or something? I would say it might help them get back to there roots but DK.

Hofstaderman4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Actually, you are correct they play a hand in localization especially in Europe with the many languages. That and marketing.

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Xbox Gives Incoherent Explanation For ‘Hi-Fi Rush’ Studio Closure

The gaming world is still reeling from the announcement that Microsoft is shuttering Tango Gameworks, the studio behind last year’s big Xbox hit, Hi-Fi Rush.

Reaper22_45m ago(Edited 44m ago)

They have a reason but they don't need to give a explanation. Gamers nowadays think they have a say so in telling people how to run their company. It's not the end of the world, fanboys. Microsoft is gonna due what benefits them the most. It's never been about you. Same with sony. Some of you need to get a grip. The crazy part is that some of the ones complaining don't even own an xbox.

enkiduxiv11m ago

I don’t own an Xbox and I have no real interest in HiFi Rush. I just hate to see a talented group of people lose their jobs when they did everything that was asked of them. You know… the decent, normal reaction to have when something like this happens.

Relientk771d 3h ago

There's no logical or good reason to give for closing Tango Gameworks. They make great games consistently and Hi-Fi Rush was the highest rated Xbox game in literal YEARS. Closing the studio was just plain stupid and nonsensical.

notachance7h ago

It’s quite strange to not see Phil Spencer in any talkshow or podcast… usually the dude would talk almost daily when there’s even a bit of news from xbox.

Hofstaderman6h ago

Muzzled and/or in on it from the very beginning. You have to be a very stupid person not to anticipate that your division is going to be under scrutiny from shareholders after 80 Billion Dollars worth of acquisitions

Aloymetal6h ago

The beauty of being a CEO here in America is that when your company does well, you get extra money as a reward...
And when your company does badly, you get extra money to encourage you to stick around and lead it through the storm...And at some point, you get to bow out and float toward retirement on your golden parachute, which means and you guessed it, MORE MONEY!! What a deal for snake oil man Phil!!

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-Foxtrot2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Oh god no

You see when shit like this happens he throws Sarah Bond to the wolves

Seriously I only hear from her when it’s the yearly big Xbox showcase or when it’s super bad.

When the whole multiplatform release came out earlier this year he put her front and centre…kept his mouth shut for most of it

purple1017h ago

Perhaps they think they can sweep this one under the rug, gamers will forget about it,

We will not

They made a good game and you put the whole studio in the bin, this couldn’t be clearer, ms don’t care, everyone suspected it, but now we KNOW it

Amplitude6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

She's kinda got the verbal communication of 3-years-ago Biden trying to say something he knows nothing about.
What she meant to say is: "We wasted our budget for the next couple years buying Call of Duty, and we're moving all our chips to that one series"

It's starting to seem quite obvious that XBox is going to be shutting down most of their studios or selling them off, then focusing on some sort of PC/Console hybrid OS for the next XBox where they can collect royalties Valve style.

esherwood5h ago

To be fair I don’t think there is a good answer, I’d rather her been honest but that probably would have pissed more people of then the word salad route.

Silly Mammo3h ago

Amp- Do you ever get tired of trying to make everything political?

1Victor2h ago

@amp please leave your political red ruby sleepers at the door this is a gaming site or go back to truthfoxnewsmax to comment over there.
BACK ON TRACK
It’s obvious that Microsoft is moving on the money now direction guided by their investors watching all the failures from the 3rd quarter of the 360 gen to this generation I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a plan to replace Phil with Bobby as he proved for years he kept making money for activision.

shinoff21831m ago

Bobby jeez that would be an interesting turn of events and they'd certainly go 3rd party

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername15h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake13h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

Barlos12h ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername4h ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic18818h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_8h ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces7h ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning776h ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

DarXyde8h ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

Christopher6h ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson4h ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

EternalTitan2h ago

16 isnt even a JRPG let alone a final fantasy game.
So glad that it bombed.

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CrashMania14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz13h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff21839h ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman13h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware73011h ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde8h ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Michiel19893h ago

@hofstaderman the board and shareholders have always called the shots or had a huge impact on decisions.

Xbox finished lmao, the writing has been on the wall? mate they just spend 70 BILLION dollars, and you see the writing is on the wall that they're done. 0 idea what you're talking about. They grafiti'd on the wall and you still can't see it.

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Aloymetal9h ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware7309h ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_8h ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk7713h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake8h ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Michiel19892h ago

I'm kinda worried about the future of DQ though, Toriyama and the composer both passed away. Huge blow to the franchise.

Charal13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast12h ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware73011h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast10h ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast6h ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto4h ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

Michiel19892h ago

asks for numbers. receives numbers and then continues to say I don't wanna click a website (because it might shatter my illusion)

anast47m ago(Edited 43m ago)

@All the people with that good 'ol folk wisdom

It's ironic how I clearly asked for the site and people still can't even answer this simple question.

Tell me how many people click on random links on forums?

Tell me the site and I will look. I don't mind being wrong and I'm barely intelligent enough to change my mind with something substantial.

All the numbers I have seen is that PC doesn't even come close console gaming in revenue, and nothing touches mobile gaming. More people touching something doesn't mean anything. It just means more people own PC for work and touch Steam every now and again, those numbers mean even less.

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Babadook76m ago

From what I can ascertain PC is a smaller market than PS. There are occasionally times when PC looks to be stronger but overall it's still behind.

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