A CD Projekt Red lead has expressed his disdain for gamers comparing Starfield with Cyberpunk 2077 to support false narratives.
Bethesda has announced the release date for the biggest Starfield update since launch, which will bring map improvements, Xbox graphics options, and more.
40fps and 60fps modes on Xbox is huge! Honestly didn't think it would be possible.
Too bad it wasn't there at launch but this and land vehicles definitely gets me way more excited to jump back in when Shattered Space drops.
The real thing here is... why didn't they have 60 FPS at launch?
I remember so many people defending them saying that it must not be possible to have 60 fps for that game. So many people defending Bethesda. Saying its too hard for 60 fps. I hope a "journalist" goes back and looks at all the excuses made for Bethesda releasing only 30 FPS. Go back and look ath all their excuses and the fans' excuses and do a write up of it all. Bethesda keep messing up and getting a pass imo.
Releasing 60 fps now for this game is simply not good enough
I'll tell you one thing, if I had bought and played Starfield at launch on Xbox SeriesX I would be so damned angry right about now.
I remember Phil Spencer announcing that Starfield was to run at 30fps as a 'creative decision'.
https://www.purexbox.com/ne...
This is one of the reasons why I'm no longer a Xbox fan, yet another example of Mr Spencer treating the public and their customers as idiots, feeding them basic marketing bullsh!t that anyone can actually see straight through.
And now their is an update over 6 months later to that game that has since lost all it's momentum it had at launch that not only improves performance but apparently adds all the QoL fixes that should have been there at launch (city maps for example).
What a load of baloney, going to wait until all this customer beta testing is finished and will get it on PS5 when on sale.
"40fps and 60fps modes on Xbox is huge! Honestly didn't think it would be possible."
Really? Have you played Starfield on the Series X ? It's not really a looker, many parts of it look very last gen, there's no doubt a base Xbox One could run it at 30fps if they toned down the resolution and some of the detail.
There are already better looking open world games that run at 60fps like Cyberpunk 2077, on the Series X.
The Series X could easily run Starfield at 60fps, it's just the developers couldn't be arsed to prioritise it.
Seems to be a recurring problem within Xbox Studios, Redfall and the upcoming Hellblade 2 are other examples.
And let's not forget that Aaron Greenberg tweeted in 2020 (around March I think) that 60fps would be the standard for the Series consoles.
I'm not sure what game you've been playing but the Starfield I've been playing looks amazing. Only the characters don't look that great but everything else looks amazing.
I don't think he said starfield looks bad, cyberpunk looks better though and has wayy more going on. There was no reason for starfield to be 30 fps. It was an unfinished game when they released it. You could tell just with the maps..how do u release a game with the maps they had for cities? In was terrible.
Way to bury the best news here! Thanks Zeref for already sharing.
"You can now select your own frame rate target for Starfield if you're on a VRR display, allowing you to choose between 30, 40, 60, and Uncapped."
I'm glad I've waited to finish it. The PC version with frame gen feels great but I'll happily play it on my Xbox again away from my desk
I just started fallout 4 for the first time and did so because of the new patch that was released. I play it in performance mode from my SX through my g cloud and it works really well. I plan on doing the same with this one when it drops.
What happened to the 30 FPS lock on consoles being a "developer choice"? I refused to touch it on console because of that. I honestly got pretty bored of the game after about 15-20 hours, but maybe I'll go back after a lot of updates. Still sad to see things like the map being fixed, and FPS options that should have been there in the first place. Being added in so much later.
the 30fps lock was the developer choice because they could not get 60 to be consistent (at that time). They could have offered 40fps as a trade off but I guess they were wanting to do more work to get 60. And now they got things working to support both 40 and 60 (on the SX) so you can rest easy now and enjoy it.
That isn't good enough. Other devs work hard and launch with 60 FPS. But it's Bethesda right? They always get a pass
@helicoptergirl - so either have something available at launch or don't improve a game moving forward.
That's quite the rationale you got going on there.
It seems pretty obvious just looking at the game that expecting it to run at 60 should definitely be achievable. We saw a similar thing happen with Redfall and now with Hellblade. The games are being pushed out too early. Its great that they are now getting 60 FPS... I can saw for sure that this makes me a lot more likely to buy the game when it comes out on PS5.
That's not a "developer choice" it's a developer incapability and a parent company not willing to wait eight months for them to become capable. No one should "rest easy" when they have to wait upwards of a year for developers to deliver on promises they made. They had plenty of resources being under Microsoft's umbrella, there's no excuse for them not getting a consistent 60 (at that time).
I agree 100%. These devs need to be up front about why console is 30. In fact I don't believe for a second HB2 was a dev choice but ran out of time. Despite having plenty of time already.
Makes no sense how much dev time does a game need to be in a pipeline in order to be 60 at launch? Even after delays its still 30. MS needs to get this sorted out with their next batch of games but I doubt they will. I think Indy might be 30 despite it being another linear experience and Avowed might be as well going by MS feature incomplete track record.
I'm confident with Avowed and Indiana both being 60.
Avowed has the 60fps gameplay footage, after their commitment to do better after Redfall.
Indy's footage is 60fps too and runs on id Tech.
Remember all the excuses from 'fans' about why 60 fps wasn't possible on Xbox consoles. It obviously was they just couldn't be bothered.
"Big update coming really soon" has city maps and shipbuilding improvements
The update "should be" properly revealed this week
Oh stop ✋️. Starfield is a good game. But definitely could be better. Would like some quality of life changes. Although if past games are anything to go by. Bethesda is gonna rely on the community to update the game :(
Exactly Starfield is a good game and I can't wait until we get mod support. I'm looking forward to the new update and dlc.
Its not though. If it was more people would be playing it but its long forgotten. Its average at best.
@Crows90 You are looking at numbers, numbers dont tell the whole story. What about Palworlds 90+ percent drop off, or other games like that dropped lst year? People that think starfield is bad will find “evidence “ that it is, but its just confirmation bias my friend.
eh, bethesda completely killed the sense of exploration in starfield. In fallout and elder scrolls I could walk to a mission objective only to get knee deep on a random vault/cave 3 hours later because I randomly encounter other missions on the way, in starfield it's just travelling from city to objective to city to objective again...
would've been way better if they just make 3-4 planets but with big open area each full of contents.
@armageddon
There's no bias. I played the game. Beat it. There's nothing interesting throughout the entire game...half baked systems galore. Just boring content...tons of boring content.
I have more fun throwing bread and chairs at players in chivalry 2 than in the entire Starfield experience. That's not bias...I don't care about numbers. Nobody cares about Starfield. It was a failed attempt ..maybe they'll do better with the next one.
Maybe if they give it to obsidian we'll get something awesome like fallout New Vegas. Hopefully with less bugs.
@Armageddon "you're looking at numbers, Numbers don't tell the whole story..."
Seriously? You're argument is stop giving logical evidence. And giving evidence is showing bias?? Democrat much?
My my, look at all these downvotes to people that actually like the game. Time to get a mind of your own people.
How is it not having a mind of your own to not like the game. I bought a whole series x for this and was pretty disappointed. No lore, exploration(half baked unlike their other games, and it felt like a step back), lack of lore, etc. As it stands I don't really like the game. I think it's a bad game and a huge step back. Step back is the problem as well. With that said I'll try it again after some of my complaints are fixed. Sadly though I doubt my lore issue(no books or pc's to actually read like their other games) will be fixed. Trust me I didn't spend series x money to say I didn't like the game.
I highly doubt you got a X to play it. Or played it at all. The games in the future you're not gonna find booke and their are PC's to get back story.
You're lying.
This happens far too often on here.
"Whats that?!?, you like something that I don't? Here's a down-vote to you good sir for liking something..."
(Down-votes inbound)
Literally the point of down voting is to down vote takes you don't agree with. So if most people think the game is mediocre at best then yeah praising it will get down voted.
I think that's the point. I get down votes all the time because I say stuff some people don't like or don't agree with. I didn't agree or disagree because I never played the game.
Down votes mean people disagree with the statement.
For instance. You said it happens too often and assume it's simply because people don't like what you like...that's not it...that's not the reason.
And that is why you're getting down votes.
Have you seen the Steam engagement numbers? I mean don't you guys gauage a games sucess on engagement these days? This game was slated as THE game to be played for months and years.... Allow me to save you the click its low.
What if, and hear me out here, but what if... these people actually don't like the game? I know, I know, pretty profound.
My, my, look all the upvotes to people actually not liking the game. Seems like they have a mind different than yours… maybe one that we can say is their own.
Nobody’s taking away your right to freely enjoy the game. I personally, enjoy some dumpster fire trash games. This particular one just helps cure insomnia… hell, just discussing this game is making me yawn.
Lol no. Notice how it's only known Sony fanboys that have a extreme negative reaction to this game on here. Y'all Have had this reaction since the game released. I've never seen such hate and emotional reaction over a single game in my life yet leave it to Sony fanboys like yourself to set a unwritten record of most hate for a game. Clearly just look around in this comment section.
@Lightning77
I can only speak for myself, but I bought this game, yes bought, so I’m not sure where in the hell that makes me a Sony fanboy. I own all the f*cking consoles, so quit b*thing about fanboys just because people didn’t like this game. I think it’s completely underwhelming and quite frankly one of the most boring experiences I’ve ever had the displeasure of experiencing.
You go ahead and like the game, bub. Nobody says you can’t, but don’t get your panties in a bunch when people voice their opinion on the game and don’t go trying to make claims it’s only fanboys that hate it.
People just don’t like it, it’s just one of those things you’ll have to learn to deal with.
"so quit b*thing about fanboys just because people didn’t like this game."
The ones who are genuinely underwhelmed at SF are hardcore Bethesda fans. What's the only fanbase or fanbases that takes a game that's only on one console dials up the hate to a maximum? Half these ppl here are lying about playing it they don't have Xbox. It's fanboys don't cover up their behavior. I see the same ones here, hell even on twitter the same culprits every time. They all have extreme fanboy track record I see a recognize and I can easily point them out. It's not hard.
If I enjoyed the game or not doesn't matter it's the terrible, toxic fanboys over this game is the issue.
There very fact you say "ppl voicing their opinions" is beyond hilarious. These aren't ppl they're fanboys. I recognize most of these ppl here all over Xbox news and games in general through out the years. Nice excuse.
You're not gonna win at this. You can keep deflecting and making excuses for them for their behavior. The fact that it's "oh it's just honest gamers voicing their opinions'" makes you very, very sus none logical person.
Or one of them.
@Lightning 77
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not.
Do you realize your comments are probably the most fanboy responses in this entire comment section?
If anyone’s “sus” it’s you and your paranoia perspective on everyone who doesn’t agree with your fanboy stance on the game.
You’ve definitely demonstrated how impossible it is to have a discussion about anything with a fanboy.
"I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not.
Do you realize your comments are probably the most fanboy responses in this entire comment section?"
So you clearly have no logical response so your retort is "no you're the fanboy!" You gotta come stronger than that Crimson. I know you got something.
But sure entertain me how am I the fan boy lol. I want full details on this.
@Lightning77
“So you clearly have no logical response so your retort is "no you're the fanboy!" You gotta come stronger than that Crimson. I know you got something.”
Isn’t that what you’re doing? No, seriously let’s have a real discussion here, if possible. What is your response to literally almost every comment here? Are you not LITERALLY calling every single person who says they’d don’t like this game a fanboy because that’s all you got?
The irony is so ironic it almost makes me want to vomit from how pathetic it is.
Yea, you’re right about one thing, I do have something more to say. I’ve honestly not seen a more. Your comments are steeped so deeply in fanboyism that it’s impossible to have any form of discourse with you. You’re actually delusional and it’s pretty disturbing in a way. Like, it borders on unhinged behavior and the delusion you have is on a whole other level.
So, what’s there to discuss further? I think Starfield is one of the most boring games I’ve ever played. There’s tons of YouTube videos of people criticizing the game with a plethora of examples that I agree with. Boring gameplay loop, boring environments and level design, boring story, boring characters, like Wirral nothing about this game has entertained me.
What’s your “retort” going to be? Probably, “Oh you’re a Sony fanboy just hating on a Xbox game and blah blah blah fanboy this and fanboy that blah blah blah,” like what discourse can we get going taking to a fanboy like you?
That’s literally your response to everyone on here and when you get called out as a fanboy your only response to that is saying “you don’t have logic so you retort to calling me a fanboy.”
Please tell me you see the irony in this. I mean, we could make a drinking game that’d put someone in the hospital with taking a shot every time you mention someone’s a fanboy for not liking the game in here. How’s that for entertaining you?
So yea, unhinged fanboy, what do you want to discuss further? I’d like to say “I know you got more,” but I know it’s just going to be fanboy this and fanboy that and we’ll be stuck in some endless waltz where it feels like discussing things further with you is the equivalent of putting my brain in a microwave and nuking it.
It’s just one of those things…
No one is downvoting you because you like a game that they don't. They downvote you because you're a smug, contrarian, ignorant person that seemingly exists just to tell people they're wrong for thinking differently than you do.
Not my fault I'm right compared to all of you.
Thinking differently? Tell me why I see the same exact fanboys here that I see in, not only in other SF articles, but across Xbox related news in general then?
Maybe be smarter in your comments and don't be a fanboy. Then you'll witness the wonders of having a brain for once.
Let you get away with trolling and ignorant fanboy comments thats has to do with Xbox and PC. How would you like it if a bunch of Xbox fanboys tore down a PS article and game?
What's funny is I hardly see any Excited Xbox fans in here for shattered space it's all been taken over with fanboys like you so what's wrong with that picture?
Thank you Todd! Thank you Phil! Thank you team Xbox!! Thank you Bethesda! Thank you to my mom for giving birth to me so I could experience this masterpiece of a game!! This is the most amazing news I've ever heard!!! DLC to the best game ever made!!!
Let's gooooo!
!!!1!!
Cool so I bet the PS5 version with all the updates and the expansion etc releases early next year then. I'm not particularly fussed or looking to buy it given my time with the game on pc was very "meh" but importantly it will help prove a point to all those in denial claiming the reports about a starfield port were wrong.
I enjoyed the game. I wasnt into Skyrim that much but using a sci fi setting got me into this one
Source code for CD Projekt's action role-playing games The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 have allegedly been compromised.
Well they are using unreal engine now thanks to there work culture and horrific job on making cyberpunk so for the future no impact.
But it will be interesting to see what mods will be made
https://rebel-wolves.com/
7 disagrees shows how many look at one dlc that had a rip off fight from ghost in the shell and goes wow what a goat team i love cdpr while ignoring that they only made 2 games that were good witcher 2/3 in 20yrs.
But its a new world we want a criminal that support's legal murder as president/support shoplifting love toxic work environments and have a mass casualty event every other day.
I’ll admit I didn’t play it at launch, but Cyberpunk 2077 is a really good game now.
And who the hell knows what you’re even going on about in your second paragraph here.
Wait a min...I swear to god CP2077's source code got leaked before. CDPR needs to stop using "password123" for all their accounts 😅
This is the same leak the threat actors have been trying to sell the source code after cd project didn't pay the ransom.
They didn't manage to sell the source code to any company largely because it would be unethical for say EA to buy it so the threat actors failed to find a buyer.
After they failed to make any money they went through with their threat of simply giving it away.
Starfield has launched in a wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better state than Cyberpunk did, I've barely had any issues at all.
Is starfield as great as we all hoped it would be, no it's not. its a average to good game which is disappointing considering how high my hopes were for this, but if I remove the hype and expectations and just look at what's there it's still a good game just not a great one.
Cyberpunk runs better with full raytracing on than Starfield without, they have screwed the PC release up. Digital Foundry were shocked at the disparity between AMD, Nvidia and Intel cards for a AAA title, this should never happen. Bethesda have ignored 85% of the PC hardware market.
i agree with the cdpr leader,
starfield runs way better than cyberpunk.
the audacity of some people haha
They condemned me? Oh... I didn't know.
I'm condemned now.
David Guetta gets mad.
How about your shitty launch and fake advertising+ chosen reviewers hurt gaming industry.
Stfu cdpr.
That UE 5.3 better be running on that Witcher 4.
Hope it runs well.