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Bethesda's Pete Hines Says Redfall Will Be a Good Game Eventually, Compares It to Fallout 76

Bethesda Softworks publishing head Pete Hines has reassured players that Arkane isn't giving up on Redfall, despite its lukewarm reception on launch earlier this year. In fact, he's confident it will be a good game people want to play on Game Pass ten years from now.

Sciurus_vulgaris249d ago

Redfall will likely not have the same level of long-term of support as Fallout 76. I doubt Redfall is popular enough to warrant several years of support and updates.

DarXyde248d ago

Yeah, I think Microsoft is done with that experiment. Honestly, I would be quite surprised if the 60fps patch comes at all anymore. It's such an afterthought at this point.

thesoftware730247d ago

Why would you be surprised?

"Okay, we didn't get the start we wanted, but it's still a fun game… and we're going to keep working on it. We're going to do 60fps. We're going to get it to be a good game because we know, as a first-party studio, Game Pass lives forever."

This is directly from the article...he is telling you it's coming.

DarXyde247d ago

thesoftware370,

Isn't it obvious?

I don't believe anything they're saying. When I see it... If I see it... Then it happens.

S2Killinit247d ago

This is MS they just say things. They dont have to be based on reality.

Snookies12249d ago (Edited 249d ago )

It should have been a good game coming out the gate... I get that not all games are going to be winners. But, at the very least, make sure it's decent before releasing. Especially with a huge company like Bethesda backing it. Not to mention Arkane had a great reputation before this. It's one thing for an indie title not meeting expectations. It's another entirely when you're supposed to be backed by a huge player in the industry.

cleft5247d ago

Starfield released without an FOV slider... I don't think listening to anyone from Bethesda is a good idea.

Jin_Sakai249d ago

It’s already dead Jim. Just like Halo Infinite.

People have moved on to better games.

coolbeans249d ago

-"Just like Halo Infinite."

To say this with such confidence suggests you don't get called out enough on bad takes.

jjb1981248d ago

Halo Infinite is dead though.

Abear21248d ago

More people play Risk on Steam than Halo

ChasterMies248d ago

Halo Infinite is so forgettable that N4G has been flooded with articles saying Starfield is the first big Xbox exclusive this generation, the savior of Xbox, and the kickoff to Xbox’s exclusives. Hype meets reality.

coolbeans247d ago (Edited 247d ago )

-"Halo Infinite is dead though."

These responses have to either be delusional or deliberately disregarding the context to which I'm responding. Just to be clear, you understand Jin literally parallels Spedfall (that's still waiting on an 60fps patch) to a game who's just had a recent seasonal update and another (Season 5) scheduled for Oct, right? You can't even pretend like that's on "life support" compared to what Pete Hine's saying here with Redfall.

-"More people play Risk on Steam than Halo"

Even if that were true, which it's not ( https://steamdb.info/app/11... ), you're forgetting an entire online platform to make your argument, Poindexter. Do better.

-"Halo Infinite is so forgettable that N4G has been flooded with articles saying Starfield is the first big Xbox exclusive this generation, the savior of Xbox, and the kickoff to Xbox’s exclusives."

Just so I'm clear about this: 'gamez jurnalizm' (or at least a big collection of that field), the same group who've constantly been personified as unethical hype-mongers for big companies, hyping up another game as THE NEXT BIG THING is going to be your proof of this? How convenient.

Also, part of what you stated doesn't even diminish Infinite's status: "first big Xbox exclusive [of/for] this generation" works in Starfield's scenario since Infinite is a Xbox One, Series, & PC game. That language could just as easily be emphasizing a 9th-gen game from a cross-gen game.

Profchaos247d ago

Only the hardest of the hardcore still believe

BlackTar187246d ago

Cool beans that is some legendary orange glow level of cope. Well done

coolbeans246d ago

-"Only the hardest of the hardcore still believe"

Although I still think you're diminishing its reach, at least you're added fairer context.

-"Cool beans that is some legendary orange glow level of cope. Well done"

And that is one of the most vapid responses I could've expected. Congrats.

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TheColbertinator249d ago

Bad move. Fallout 76 is still awful and not at all beloved by the Fallout community.

thesoftware730247d ago

But Fallout 76 has about 14 million players ..

Somebody is playing it, you can't possibly think that is bad.

TheColbertinator247d ago

Millions of people also bought the PS5 even though the system sucks. Quantity is not always quality

XiNatsuDragnel249d ago

It's over Jim because f76 and red fall are cursed to be bad let's be honest.

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Former Blizzard President Says Closures Hurt Phil Spencer 'as Much as Anyone Else'

The former president of Blizzard Mike Ybarra in a statement on Twitter says Microsoft Gaming CEO is hurting just as much as anyone else following the closure of three studios under Bethesda - Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, and Alpha Dog Studios. Roundhouse Games is also joining ZeniMax Online Studios.

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jambola7h ago

Yeahhh I doubt it's hurting a millionaire as much as it's hurting fans and people who lost their jobs

Name Last Name2h ago

Phil is the only guy in the industry that has plot armor.

Tody_ZA1h ago

Hahahahahahaha! xD Legendary comment.

Jingsing3h ago

I can already hear Jim Ross.. He has a family damnit!

Barlos2h ago

Poor Phil. He must be crying into his bonus cheques. Makes your heart bleed doesn't it?

MrDead1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I'm sure he'll be upset that those cheques contain a small percentage of money MS is still making from the closed studios games too. Next time someone purchases High-fi Rush or Evil within all that money is now just Microsofts, just think the former devs at Tango who made Hi-fi Rush MS's most highly acclaimed game in years will get nothing more.

MS are buying these publishers for the big IP's like Elder Scrolls and Call of Duty they have little interest in the ones that don't make huge profits... and firing thousands and closing studios looks good on the next quarterly shareholder report. Gotta protect the share price.

Eonjay5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

This is all coming from the executive who thinks we should have the option to tip devs... apparently so publishers can pay devs minimum wage. Will someone think of the C-suite executives!!!

dumahim1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

That was from a former Blizzard exec. Did Phil make a comment on that also?

edit: Oh, it wasn't Phil who said this himself.

LucasRuinedChildhood5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Yeah, the guy making $10m a year is hurting as much as those who have lost their jobs and are worrying about their future and supporting their family. /s

It takes a real lack of shame to even try put the Good Guy Phil™ spin on this. It's not going to work this time.

Profchaos5h ago

He's sitting around feeling sorry when he should of been doing everything in his power to get people jobs in other studios you're telling me after toys for Bob split from Activision there wasn't a opening in the call of duty mines for arkane it's just woah is me.

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Bethesda Offering Credit on Redfall DLC, No Specifics at This Time

Arkane Austin tweeted: "Today it was announced that Arkane Austin will close and development will not continue on Redfall.

To everyone that has supported the work from our Austin studio over the years, thank you. Thank you for spending time in our worlds and making them your own.

Arkane Lyon will continue their focus on immersive experiences where they are hard at work on their upcoming project.

Redfall players who purchased the Hero Pass as part of the premium Bite Back Edition or the premium Bite Back upgrade will be eligible to receive the value of the upgrade.

While there will be no further updates, Redfall's servers will remain online for players to enjoy."

FPS_D3TH16h ago

Why was the twistedvoxel article about this failed despite reaching 10 approvals?

Chocoburger15h ago

They're offering credit instead of a cash refund. Yeesh.

More proof people need to stop pre-ordering games which end up releasing unfinished, need to stop supporting live service trash, and need to stop buying Battle Passes before the content is even made. If there ever was a time to learn these lessons, now would be the time.

badz14910h ago

it's lawsuit time! come on gamers, do your thing!

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It's Time To Stop Giving Xbox Boss Phil Spencer A Pass

Under his leadership, many have lost their jobs and fewer games have made it out the door.

purple10121h ago

people should call for his resignation, he has literally flushed xbox down the toilet.
another 3 studios closed today, thats it now, get out

Tody_ZA20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Well purple101 you'd have to convince Observer and the other Xbox faithful that these studio closures and the fallout from the acquisitions is a bad thing and a sign of what's to come, and I don't think you're going to do that.

Nobody has managed that feat.

Redgrave19h ago

Obscure and Zeref have been summoned to the floor to give their account of these proceedings.

VenomUK19h ago

I 100% blame 'nice guy Phil' for the death of Xbox. The thing to realise is the Xbox Series S & X are performing WORST in console sales and game sales than the much criticised Xbox One - how can this be?

His two big mistakes were 1-not developing enough exclusives and 2 - always trying to beat PlayStation. If he made more exclusives over his decade reign and not tried to 'win' then classic Xbox would still be here in a profitable third place. Instead he tried a series of different projects to win and he ended up ultimately destroying Xbox by changing its relationship with its most loyal customers. What did he do?

* Phil spent a decade only release new iterations of Halo, Forza and Gears and not investing in creating new first party studios and IP. He mishandled Scalebound and shutdown Lionhead Studios.

* Phil tried Mixer, a streaming channel that could be used to promote Xbox dominance with free giveaways...

* Phil tried to create a streaming service that he regarded as too superior to consider PlayStation and Nintendo as competitors! But would instead compete with Netflix and Google...

* But his worst mistake was Xbox Game Pass - a multi billion dollar investment that could only work if completely dominated the worldwide gaming market - but it didn't. Instead it changed the culture of Xbox gamers so they resented spending on third party games as they were now trained to expect everything for free. Now all the games Microsoft had invested so much in were not only NOT making money from other platforms, as ever, but they were now NOT EVEN making money from Xbox customers.

If Phil Spencer had just concentrated on making new games and not non-stop gimmicks to beat PlayStation, I genuinely believe the Xbox would be an attractive platform with regular exclusives like Halo but with others too that would give it its distinct identity and maintain a profitable existence. Phil's been in charge for over a decade, the blame lays at his feet.

ChiefofLoliPolice2h ago

Oh you and I both know that's never gonna happen. Some people you can't convince them there is a fire even if their own hair is burning. Denial is a powerful thing.

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amazinglover18h ago

Last MS financial results for FY24 Q2 which is the company's sales data through Dec. 31, 2023. According to the earnings, gaming revenue is up 49% year-over-year.

That doesn't sound like he flushing it down the toilet and that also makes very unlikely he loses his job any time soon.

crazyCoconuts18h ago

Revenue up due to acquisition... Spending 10s of billions for new companies of course revenue is up. They don't tell us profits but they wouldn't be shutting down these divisions if they were in the black. Pretty sure they're shifting so radically because their current state has been an abject failure

Scissorman17h ago

This is 100% due to Activision Blizzard. If that deal had not gone through, Xbox revenue would be flat, which means a game like Starfield failed to move the needle.

rlow116h ago

@crazyCoconuts
While I agree that Phil and team have gone back on their word. Especially the last six years of promises.

But I disagree on your logic about the revenue.
They bought the companies to boost their gaming division revenue. In that regard they were very successful. They are owned by MS so your point is moot.

Lightning7713h ago

They made all that money and still doing studio shutdowns...

It's bottomless pit of money MS wants. There's no amount of money MS can make to save their own studios. They're doing it out greed and general incompetence. Calling Phil's head won't mean anything or do anything for MS. They'll still destroy regardless.

Chevalier12h ago

Damn idiots don't know how to read revenue reports. Revenue was due to folding in Activision Blizzard Revenue. They were up 61% due to Activision Blizzard with 62% increase. So they only went up 1% over last year. But idiots going to be idiots thinking Spencer is helping Xbox right now. Lol

Markusb334h ago

this is due to Activision and not their general output of quality titles,

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Jingsing8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It is funny that it was him finally touching Bethesda that was the straw that finally broke the camels back. They should have been calling for this years ago.

Markusb334h ago

im sure this is good for gamers, didnt Phil say that about scalebound ?

JackBNimble2h ago

You obviously don't know what literally means but ya , all console bosses need to accept accountability for their actions.

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Tacoboto21h ago

Phil needs to go. His time is over. When you oversee layoff after layoff after studio closure after studio closure, it's impossible to keep going forward and have people - employees and fans alike - trust you in any way.

Especially after HiFi Rush hit their metrics. I guess we know what to expect for Ninja Theory next once Hellblade is out, and Machine Games once Indiana's out & Todd Howard focuses back on ES6.

Lightning7713h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Ninja Theory won't last after HB2. Because it won't hit some impossible metric in order to be a success at MS.

Expect NT to be gone in a years time also. Where the hells the advertising for Hellblade 2? Another MS issue they do to themselves bunch of clowns.

Tacoboto13h ago

Their first-announced Series game going out like this. Their marketing so far has just been a daily tweet or two the last week.

And now this will overshadow everything up till and through its release. Maybe Ninja Theory will get the same dignity as Tango and bow out with a better PS5 port.

Chevalier12h ago

Hellblade 2 out in 2 weeks and no one will even remember it by the beginning of June

RaidenBlack4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Unrelated but since there's a shortage of devs to make Fallout content ... MS could've asked Tango or Austin or both to make a new Fallout game (doesn't have to be a full-blown RPG) ... fans would've gobbled it up after watching Prime's FO season 2 ... and it would've been a nice experiment to check the feasibility of having Fallout venture into non-RPG genres (like it was done before during Interplay days).
This is what I would've guessed/suggested from past statements from Xbox & co., that you can experiment with new ideas (using new or existing IPs) at current Xbox ecosystem.
But ... after axing Tango & Austin ... don't know if Xbox is still open to such experimentations.

Chevalier12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Just watch Outer World's 2 also be dead on arrival without Playstation and Nintendo gamers buying that game you can expect Gamepass to kill that IP too. Ditto for making that contract to exclude Playstation gamers from getting Indiana Jones too. Remember how Tomb Raider sales were on Playstation after the 1 year exclusivity? Expect even worse for Indiana Jones too

mastershredder21h ago

It's not just Phil (Phil is just the dumb kid taking the money) and Kotaku is NOT the voice to listen to as shi7 sites like Kotaku helped contribute to modern gaming toxicity and disinformation. Kotaku staff = Much like Phil, and yes need to go.

Moegooner21h ago

MS has been posting record profits, you think they give a crap about games and gamers? Think again.

DOMination-21h ago

What a prat.

People gave him and Matt Booty the benefit of the doubt for a few years due to the mess they inherited but a decade on and all they've done is ruin gaming for everyone.

The only success they've had is MS Flight Simulator which was developed by a third party anyway - and Forza Horizon which by pure coincidence went downhill in quality the second Playground were acquired (imo) and that's all I can think of. Everything else they've touched has been ruined.

It's genuinely staggering how either of these two guys are still there.

Hofstaderman21h ago

Phil didnt even inherit a mess, he was equally responsible for it because he sat on the executive so the kinect and XBONE roadmap vision was also on him. Mattrick was the convenient public scapegoat back then but now theres no one to place the blame on.

Tacoboto20h ago

If they're to keep anyone, I'd hope it would be Sarah Bond. She's at least consistent, constantly doing quick tweets with green emojis where she can, repping the brand, saying the next hardware will be the biggest leap ever (whatever that means).

Phil Spencer openly minimizes Xbox by going out of his way to congratulate competitors and talking about how great playing non-Xbox devices are; if only Xbox had someone that could even pretend to like Xbox for being Xbox.

LoveSpuds20h ago

This is the point I always found frustrating, the whitewashing of Spencers reputation when he got promoted. He was involved in the slide into mediocrity of the 360 generation!

Aloymetal20h ago

The worse is yet to come and their fanbase don't know it yet, someone at MS posted and deleted a tweet saying all their main ''exclusives'' Halo, Forza, Gears etc will be heading to PS soon so grab a front seat ticket and some popcorn and enjoy the show;) The crying will be hilarious.

Notellin19h ago

Yeah he is absolutely responsible for the abysmal state of Xbox. I can't tell Mattrick and Spencer apart at this point. Both have been horrible executives for the Xbox brand.

Lightning7713h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Phil's responsible for this generations mess. Phil was the one following orders under Steve Balmer and Don Mattrick.

Don even admitted he messed up on camera with the Xbox documentary

Let's keep the facts straight. Everything currently now is Phil's fault.

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