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PlayStation Portal solves a problem that doesn't exist

GF365: "Instead of being a portable PlayStation, Portal is a Remote Play device. In short, PlayStation Portal solves a problem that doesn't exist."

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philm87259d ago

Doesn't really explain what this problem that doesn't exist is. Does it mean that there are already plenty of options for remote play? I get a pretty much flawless performance using my phone and Razer Kishi. It would be nice having a separate device for it with a bigger screen, but not £200 nice without Bluetooth.

DogJosha259d ago

So is it just the PC version that doesn't work well? It can lag like crazy while being 2 feet away because it forces it to go through the internet rather than a local connection.

philm87259d ago

Never used the PC version. I use an unofficial app on my phone because the official one doesn't work with a Razer Kishi. Took a bit of messing around with settings to get it working properly over WiFi, but lovely now it does. Main thing for me was making sure my phone was connecting to the 5ghz WiFi signal, and all the other devices connect to the 2.4ghz signal.

CrimsonWing69258d ago

I will say this. I’ve done Remote Play for the jump rope script for FF9 and if your console isn’t hard wired via Ethernet the service drops almost immediately for me. And this is in the same room the router is in…

Wired I have no issues. There is a slight lag and I know this because I see actions on the TV and display at the same time, but it’s only jarring if you look at 2 screens… you get sort of used to it just playing on the PC. I also have my controller connected via USB, so there might be a difference if wireless.

I mean, hey, it works decent for what it is, but in no way is it a way I’d want to play if I have the option to just play on console. Like I said, I only did this for a damn trophy and once I got it, I jumped off immediately.

DogJosha258d ago

@Crimson
I actually tried it wired in on a network that was high speed/ low latency and it still worked like crap and I wasn't able to get the trophy for jump rope. Gotta be near a Sony server I guess.

philm87258d ago

@DogJosha Sony server location won't make a difference for remote play. There's so many different issues going on with different connections, how well the router handles traffic etc. Unless you know what the issue is it's a case of trying loads of things to get it to work right.
I'm sure I'll get a few more downvotes for saying this, but it is possible to get a great experience with very low latency. Standard router tech will improve down the line and handle all this stuff automatically hopefully. I know people who use a backbone and have had a great experience without having to mess around with any settings.

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jznrpg259d ago (Edited 259d ago )

For the price it’s just an inexpensive option for handheld play. I’m getting it for sure as my wife makes me come to bed with her when she goes to sleep but I can play in bed. Also when my wife and kids are using my TVs I can still play if I want. It’s not going to take over TV play but it will be nice to have. I don’t want to use my phone or any other device.

I’d prefer it to be a dedicated device with remote play option like the Vita but that would add 200$ to it at least.

victorMaje259d ago

Agreed, I think that’s exactly the market for it.
In any home where the TV is already being used by someone, you’ll now have the option to still play your PS5 games.

Only concern will be the battery & strength of the wifi, & I’m not really fond of not being able to connect your own bluetooth devices (i.e. wireless earphones).

All in all I think it’s smart, catering to growing gaming households.

philm87259d ago

I can't see the battery being too much of a problem because the power consumption shouldn't be too high as it's just streaming rather than processing (plus haptics).

Nurket258d ago

4 kids/no lifers/butthurt ppl dont understand what you are saying, hence the dislikes. But yeah, this is gonna sell alot, alot more than VR. Its us, the grown ups, that got the money for it. Makes no sense that Sony would try to sell a 4-600 dollar handheld with all the options people cry after…So many no factors.. it would damage their ps5 sales fx.

Grilla258d ago

Another psp is never going to happen. It’s the same reason why Nintendo went to one platform. Splitting game development to two platforms isn’t feasible anymore.

Angyobangyo258d ago

You sure sound like an adult by the way you write. You're kidding yourself if you think this thing is going to sell a lot. It is a half baked device. Sony couldn't even bother to add Bluetooth connectivity to the device because they want to sell you their proprietary earphones/headphones. I don't blame them, ponies are suckers. The fact that it has to stream from a ps5 and not include cloud streaming is a laughable.

BlackOni258d ago

Can't you just remote play to your phone and use a controller with it?

NotoriousWhiz258d ago

Good luck reading anything on a tiny phone screen if you're playing a game with text.

Guitardr85258d ago

@NotoriousWhiz...

My Fold 4 and attached GameSir controller say hi lol.

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Outside_ofthe_Box258d ago

I like how you two above mentioned $2000 phones lol

At that price it better be able to say hi 😂

Guitardr85257d ago (Edited 257d ago )

@outsidetnebox

...ORRRRRRR you could be a savy consumer and take my phone's MSRP of $1900...subtract the $1000 trade in I received because I paid attention to the deals...subtract another $400 because of customer loyalty perks...and then subtract another $200 from accumated cellar provider credits.

Suddenly that $1900 phone isn't so much different from the Playststion portal AND it has a much.l bigger screen AND its Android so I can also (allegedly!!!!) use it as.a portable SNES, Genesis, PSX, PS2, N64, 3DS, Wii, GameCube, etc)...

Now I wait for the down votes because what I did makes sense and had some forethought to it haha....

Still haven't figured out how to get my phone to say hi... 😞

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darthv72258d ago (Edited 258d ago )

I'll pick one up too. Im finding it harder and harder to get up the enthusiasm to go into my game room and sit and play. Im more used to kicking back on the couch with my steam deck or switch. Having this to play some PS games seems right up my alley. I still like to pick up the PSP and PS Vita and DS/3DS as well so this will make enjoying more modern games in a casual manner that much better.

Plus i have my game room on its own private network so I wont have to use my main wifi. I wish it supported wifi direct like psp and vita did for PS3/4. Maybe it does... just have to wait and see.

neutralgamer1992258d ago

There is a market for it. May not be for everyone but there will be a good size market for it

BlackOni257d ago

Sure there's a market for it, there's a market for nearly anything. My point is mostly, that we all have a phone and/or computer (hopefully a computer as well) and I've run remote play on a laptop and it's worked surprisingly well. I've even live streamed to platforms while remote playing, which was bandwidth intensive, but manageable.

We have ways of doing this now. There will still be things that are hard to read even on a screen as comfy as this one, unless you're specifically on a LARGE screen (switch for example has the problem of small text, but that's unavoidable unless you're dealing with a huge screen.)

I'm happy that people are excited about gaming in general, I just dunno if this is the product to be hype for. If this could output to another screen, or stream steam games or run xcloud as well, it would make for a much more compelling product, even if it couldn't run games natively from it.

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randomvoice259d ago (Edited 259d ago )

Written by someone who doesn't have kids or a big family. I'm gonna get this just because wife likes to watch TV but have me sit around. I can play this on the side. I know I can do it on a phone or a tablet but there are so many things to setup, connect a controller, ensure your phone battery doesn't drain out etc. which makes me want a dedicated device.

200$ isn't that big a deal in my opinion

Stanjara259d ago

Is that called quality time with your family?

anast258d ago

We got ourselves the next Dr. Phil. Nice job...

DivineHand125259d ago

I fear if I get something like this it will just sit and gather dust. On paper it might sound like it is good for niche scenarios like if the tv is occupied I can still game but in reality, would I want to game on an inferior screen. I am also concerned about the distance I would be able to go from the console because the wifi in the house sucks.

talocaca259d ago

Such a lame article.
I live in Tokyo. The weather is disgustingly hot lately. I've mostly been playing Switch because I can play it in bed (where the Air-conditioner is stronger).
This would make it much easier to play games like FF16 🤷‍♂️

Lionsguard259d ago

And you think there are millions of people out there with this problem and think it's worth spending money to fix?

Old McGroin258d ago

@Lionsguard

And you think his specific problem is the only reason people might be interested in this? You actually think there needs to be a problem to begin with for somebody to be interested in this?

raWfodog258d ago

Why are you thinking that Sony is marketing this product as something that every PS5 owner will buy? They simply see a need that SOME gamers will want it for. Just like with the DualSense Edge which also costs $200. Do you think millions of people out there with the problem of not having a customizable, specialized DS controller? These products cost Sony very little to manufacture and they make profit off of every one sold.

Angyobangyo258d ago

If you live in Tokyo, your aircon is hitting all four corners of your 1LDK.

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The PlayStation Portal is finally winning me over

After a few months with the PlayStation Portal, Digital Trends Giovanni Colantonio is starting to see how the streaming handheld fits into our gaming lives.

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jznrpg25d ago

I love it for single player games

blackblades25d ago

It'll probably help me get through some games. Listen to the tv and play at same time. Also people need to stop hating

DogJosha25d ago

I'll stop hating when they go back to being able to connect locally instead of through the internet. Some of us are adults with jobs that take us away from top tier internet service.

MaximusPrime_25d ago

I'm still playing it. Playing GT7 on it has been awesome

MaximusPrime_25d ago

Thanks for disagreeing. I doubt you never seen or afford a PS Portal?

I bought it at launch and it's the best decision I ever made. Well done Sony!

monkey60225d ago

I slipped a disc in my back a short while ago and I could barely move for 2 weeks. A spent a near fortnite on my back and the Portal was a god send

VenomUK25d ago

You spent a fortnight playing Fortnite?

monkey60225d ago

I must type fortnite out more often than I actually use the word fortnight because my phone auto corrects to it. Haha
Nah I've been playing Cyberpunk and HellDivers though

jwillj2k425d ago

You spend a Fortnite on your back? ….

DarXyde25d ago

You back spending on Fortnite?

monkey60225d ago

Cheers JZNRPG!
I'm back walking again. And was out for the first time two days ago. Going to attempt driving today.

jznrpg25d ago

Great to hear ! Back injuries are one of the worst. Good luck with your driving

mudakoshaka25d ago

You spent two weeks in a fort at night?

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hiawa2325d ago

I was thinking about getting the Portal but my Logitech G-Cloud remote plays my PS5 games, Series X, retro games fine so will stick with that for now. Good to see the Portal doing well.

Tapani25d ago

I wonder which one has better controls or screen. Genuine question.

raWfodog25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

IIRC both have 1080p resolution and 60Hz/fps. The Portal has a 1” bigger screen though (8” vs 7”) and is about $100 cheaper if you can find one without having to seek out a reseller.

Sgt_Slaughter25d ago

The Portal is strictly a PlayStation device and has on-par if not worse connectivity than most phones, so a G-Cloud or even a Steam Deck for a bit more money is a better deal for more options.

mudakoshaka25d ago

Completely agree! Playing PS5 remotely, Game Pass, GeForce Now, some emulators as well for older games. The G Cloud is an amazing device for that price!

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PlayStation Portal Sales Continue to Impress Despite Skepticism

Sony has said that the PlayStation Portal is meant to be a niche product for a specific audience, but its sales continue to impress.

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BrettAwesome47d ago

And PS2 is at...155? Damn...the Switch got close! It still just might make it.

Profchaos47d ago

Plus or minus a few zeros

BrettAwesome46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

The disagrees for this 😂😂😂 for some numbers. Or is it because I dare say the Switch might have a go at the PS2 numbers? Is that forbidden? 😂😂😂 what if I end up being right?

Barlos47d ago

I use mine a lot. Don't get me wrong it's not perfect by any means. It really isn't good for fast paced games but as I love my RPGs it's perfect for those. I've put a good few hours into BG3 and Infinite Wealth on my Portal when the TV is being used. It's so good to use that at times it's easy to forget it's not playing games natively.

monkey60247d ago

I took the time to upgrade my network at home by replacing the router and getting a mesh system throughout the house before I bought the portal. I have absolutely zero latency issues with it and I am using it currently to play Helldivers, The Finals and Star Wars Jedi Survivor.

Ironmike47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

So uspent a fortune for 200 pound handheld device lol

darthv7247d ago

@mike, a mesh network is not very expensive. I think I paid $200 for mine. It made a huge difference in performance and coverage.

monkey60246d ago

Or IronMike!... hear me out here. I spent money upgrading my home network and now the back rooms with smart tvs and our home office benefit too.
So quick to judge, You should have taken a second to use some common sense first. 🙄

Eonjay46d ago

It's perfect for helldivers! I also use mine to play FF7 Rebirth and Granblue fantasy. I'm actually expecting the PS5 Pro to enhance Remote Play by streaming downsampled performance modes.

Charlieboy33346d ago (Edited 46d ago )

@ironbike Yeah, it's not like people would like to improve their network for other reasons. What he actually said was, he happened to upgrade his network 'before' he got his portal. Not 'because' of his portal. But I know reading is hard for you ( and writing based on all your comments ).

Edit: I just saw Monkey replied and said pretty much what I said. So that's already two people with more advanced thinking skills than you.

Barlos46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Nice! Tbh my home isn't suited to a mesh network but it could benefit from an upgraded router. We're using a TPLink Archer 2600. It does the job but is definitely showing its age. In honesty we don't get much lag, but in the faster games such as GT7 it does stutter every now and again. Otherwise the connection is strong even on my old TPLink 😂

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blackblades46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Right, they should've at least have 2 modes. Remote play via Wi-Fi and a direct connect to the system like how the dual sense is for better latency. Overall that one time I played on phone it was response imo so which leads to me getting a portal one day. Making a native system just for ps4 games doesnt make sense to me when you have this with remote play. No one is gonna play competitive on a handheld to begin with

Tody_ZA46d ago

@monkey602 Same, I upgraded my home network to a mesh one sometime ago and it works wonders for the Portal. TP-Link Archer 3000 Router and a Wifi extender. Pretty much can move wherever I want in the house and never drop a bar.

Tody_ZA47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Not surprised. My Portal has been a life changer with two kids in the house. I use it almost every day and the comfort factor and build quality is amazing. Of course playing on a big TV with Pulse Elite headphones is superior, but the Portal is such a damn good handheld experience that you get lost in it. Can't remote play any other way now.

1nsomniac47d ago

‘They’ as well as the rest of the paid media also claimed this for PSVR2…. It’s about time people realised published sales figures mean nothing and can be slanted to any direction to suit the chosen narrative… they’re fake..

Profchaos47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

This is a far different story to the psvr2 this will support every game until the end of the generation. So to the end user it's just numbers on a spreadsheet and low numbers won't negatively impact their experience.

The psvr2 is a year In and there's no word on what's next in terms of first party with only two first party games being launched to date. Low sales of the psvr2 mean us psvr2 owners can kiss long term support goodbye Sony's already opening the headset up to PC comparability which is nice but also says hey we tried but we got nothing go play your fancy headset on steam VR

I say this as a psvr2 owner who genuinely loves the hardware and the games I've played so far but I still feel ripped off it's got the same feeling like when I had the 32x and Sega CD in the 90s.

But maybe I'm just a sucker

crazyCoconuts47d ago

I'm with you. It feels like they had bigger plans and then changed their mind. I also felt their decision to not build in compatibility with our purchased PSVR 1 games was a business decision, not a technical one.
I was moving from a Rift S though, where Facebook/Meta screwed us pretty hard so I'm still relatively happy with the move. There's a decent amount of games to play and the headset is really good. But I am disappointed in Sony as I think it could be much better

Einhander197247d ago

By paid media you mean all the people who said it would fail before it launched and did everything they could to tell people not to buy it, right?

This isn't paid media this is NPD, Circana saying it's selling well btw.

Ironmike47d ago

Everyone of my friends on psn about 200 ppl who I know owns a ps5 nor one of them have bought one it it's bullshit

crazyCoconuts47d ago

"Sell through" is difficult to report, so yeah sometimes stores aren't selling their stock.
But this is different. Try to find one to buy at list price... Not easy in the US. These aren't sitting in store shelves.

Ironmike47d ago

Totally I remember all the sales articles saying psvr2 selling out now articles saying massive stockpile no one buying them I don't believe this selling great no browser latency issues I calling this bs as well

thorstein46d ago

We know at launch the story was 100k per week.

Of course that will drop off, it will for anything that's new. (A few exceptions prove the rule.) PC support is rumored to be incoming. But those "stopped production" stories all quote Bloomberg. And they have it as a rumor.

porkChop46d ago

The thing is, this isn't even sales figures. It's the best selling accessory in terms of dollar amount. It costs multiple times what the average accessory costs though. I'm not saying it's a failure or anything, but you can't really extrapolate any sales data from this.

blackblades46d ago

You forget Sony never expect both to sells like Hot cakes. Its there for ones who wants it.

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Exclusive: The making of the PlayStation Portal

Project lead Hiromi Wakai explains Sony's goals and why the Portal isn't a Vita 2.

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darthv7272d ago

Portal is a great little piece of kit. I use it and the G-Cloud for my console streaming needs.

GamingSinceForever72d ago

I looked today after seeing this and you still can’t find one for retail.

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TheEnigma31372d ago (Edited 72d ago )

I was able to find one at gamestop this past weekend, but you need to be a pro member smh. I paid the $25 to get it

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Tody_ZA72d ago

As a dad of two this is the best gadget I could have ever bought for the price. In a week I've finished Valhalla and dived well into Tales of Arise, which previously would have taken me a month or more. It helps that it's so comfortable and amazing to play on, the design is far better than pictures would suggest. As someone who used to remote play on my phone with a backbone, only an insane person would say the experience is comparable. You just can't underestimate the appeal of playing on an 8 inch screen with DualSense controls, of playing in bed, or while the kids are watching or being able to hide what you're playing from the little ones because 90% of your games aren't child friendly. Loving my Portal.

jznrpg72d ago

As a father of 5 children I approve this message.

__y2jb72d ago

It’s a fantastic device and works flawlessly on the 5ghz Wi-Fi band.

TheEnigma31372d ago

This works better than I thought. A quick tip, for best results, wire your PS5 and make sure you are connected to 5gz on the Portal.