Xbox Live Gold Seemingly Ending in September

Xbox Game Pass has long been one of the better deals in gaming, but Microsoft also has Xbox Live Gold, which has led to some confusion for players in the past. Now, it seems like Xbox Live Gold might be going away on September 1, moving subscribers over to an Xbox Game Pass subscription to get everything in one place.

[maniacmayhem]

*This appears to be very similar to the current Xbox Live Gold offering but is replacing Games With Gold with the catalog.*

Good, GWG was trash and a joke. But it will be just as big of a joke if they just offer you trash from the GP catalog.

[darthv72]

Many [here] have been saying they should sunset GwG. Well.... here it is.

[GhostScholar]

If you think there’s only trash in game pass you must just not like video games…….

All Bethesda games, yakuza series, like a dragon, all halo games, all gears games, forza horizon series, a plethora of great indies, etc it’s cool that you are a Sony fan, but don’t be such a silly goose and use at least a smidge of honesty.

[Kerppamaister]

If the games they listed are all trash then your opinion doesn't matter.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

Game Pass Core sounds like a big improvement over Gold ... but I assume this also means the end of the conversion deal :(

[porkChop]

Yeah it's a big improvement for the same amount of money. This is good news for XBLG subscribers.

[Si-Fly]

Glad I did three years of Gamepass for £110 in May 💪🏻

[LoveSpuds]

Better timing than mine then chief. I believed the hype and bought my Series X almost two years ago which came with two years of GP Ultimate. In that time I played Horizon 5 and HiFi Rush but otherwise, high quality 1st party stuff has been non existent and I've instead replayed older games such as the Gears of War titles etc.

I am now in a spot where my subscription ends in September and I must decide whether to renew or not. I simply cannot justify subscribing for the only potentially worthwhile release they have in Starfield. My plan is to wait till they have a catalogue of 1st party releases that make it worthwhile for me to splash the cash.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

So free online? If so that would be major W for Microsoft.

[Jin_Sakai]

No. GWG is being replaced with Game Pass Core.

Core
$9.99/mo.
Online console multiplayer
Catalog of over 25 high-quality games on console
Member deals & discounts

https://m.cafe.naver.com/ca...

[maniacmayhem]

That should have been the case. There's zero reason to keep MP behind a paid wall for consoles.

[Godmars290]

Only MS has done so since the beginning.

I mean, can Fortnite be played on Xbox w/o online subscription?

[Jin_Sakai]

I agree. Even worse that Sony locks cloud saves behind a paywall which Microsoft doesn’t.

[Asplundh]

@Godmars

It took them awhile, but yes F2P games are no longer locked behind a subscription.

[BlackTar187]

The guy just compared cloud saves to online gaming and says even worse . Lmao clown world

[TheColbertinator]

I only game on PC now but I wonder what this means for Xbox.

[Profchaos]

If the gwg core rumour is true I wonder what the 25 games will be Microsoft first party only? That might be a good deal I never touch 99 percent of the Indies they shovel onto the service

[sertz]

I would have to agree. I feel it will be a month to month basis, and based on individual gamepass owner votes. Which games they would like to come to the forefront. IF that is the case I'm all for it. It is a better deal for Gold only owners, and gamepass owners still get the full library of other games to choose from for a bit of a premium price.

I have been month to month with gamepass since it came out, and I applaud Microsoft for their notifications letting me know it will update soon. I can cancel ahead of time if no gamepass titles interest me, and I can cancel then switch to gamepass for a few months before a new big release comes out (hello Hi-Fi Rush!) then cancel again.

It sounds like a bad move up front, but looking at the prices it's a very good deal for all people involved.

[dumahim]

Only updates a few times a year, so you're going to go months with no change. $1 more for full game pass, I don't really see the point of this other than to make GWG people pay more.

[ApocalypseShadow]

As we said before, fees, fees, FEES if this is true. Microsoft has plenty of fees waiting for it's player base. Take way something they really didn't support with quality. And give less content for more money.

Prepare to start paying up the ass to pay for the Activision deal. Even though they supposedly got gobs of money. They want you to pay for it. Not them.

More is coming for you.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

You seem upset…

[sertz]

Not only upset, but... DELUSIONAL!

[Workshyskiver]

You know you can choose to just buy the games in the traditional manner?

[ApocalypseShadow]

Xbox fans have chosen to buy less games. It shows every month in Europe, NPD, etc.

[porkChop]

"Take way something they really didn't support with quality. And give less content for more money."

But they're giving more content for the same money. Game Pass Core is essentially XBLG, but instead of the 2 shitty GWG titles you now get a library of 25 games instead.

[VersusDMC]

It's not the same money. It's double the price for a year. 60 for the year(GWG) vs the new 9.99 a month.

[Petebloodyonion]

it's still 60$ for a year if you pay annually or 10$ per month just like the old ways
"Game Pass Core will give players access to our advanced multiplayer network, a select collection of over 25 games to play with friends around the world, and exclusive member deals, all for $9.99 USD per month or $59.99 USD per year."
https://news.xbox.com/en-us...

[ApocalypseShadow]

Microsoft is looking to get those monthly payers. Not someone that pays annually.

It's a given they are going to make gamers pay for the deal. They didn't buy them out of the kindness of their hearts. It's to make more money in fees. Because it's obvious they don't make money on sales. Or their games wouldn't be landing day one in a service. And sales reporting stopped years ago.

[Christopher]

@ApocalypseShadow: So is Sony, re: getting monthly payers and make more money on fees. That's just how the business of subs work.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Chris, Sony makes that money as a side hustle. Millions of unit game sales is reported monthly. Well, from Sony anyway.

[Petebloodyonion]

WOW really?
PPL has been complaining about GWG's poor offering for months (myself included) but having them revamp it to a complete collection of decent titles is bad?
Care to explain how this is worse compared to the current offering?
And why are you screaming fees fees FEES when they are charging the same exact price?

[ApocalypseShadow]

The offerings were poor to get gamers to move over to game pass. That's called grooming. And you fell for it. They could have easily put great games in the service. It wasn't by accident they did that.

They originally tried to increase the price but got called out besides the fact they were making gamers pay for XBL to play F2P games. Instead, they just made it terrible and are now possibly just pushing gamers over anyway if this rumor is true. They aren't fooling anybody. Well, actually only people like you

[Petebloodyonion]

They originally tried to increase the price but got called out besides the fact they were making gamers pay for XBL to play F2P games. Instead, they just made it terrible and are now possibly just pushing gamers over anyway if this rumor is true. They aren't fooling anybody. Well, actually only people like you

1) yep they did try to increase the price and they back out because of ppl concerns
2) And they did remove the paywall for free 2 play because of ppl concerns
3) Are you still paying for the essential things called cloud saves on PlayStation?

Also, I love how you include me in something I don't use for I have been advocating that MS should drop completely Xbox Live GOLD due to the fact that the situation changed a lot since the 360 days due to 3rd parties paying their own servers and similar service being free on PC.
Personally, I play on PC and use game pass on PC

[ApocalypseShadow]

I don't pay for online. Guess again. Haven't for years. And don't miss it. Local play with friends and family is better. Only used it for discounts. Too many flash sales and reductions in price made it obsolete.

Yeah. They removed it after years of forcing gamers to pay for it. Making a big chunk of change. None of you made a peep about it as if it was okay. I said it for years. Multiple times in my previous comments.

I love how you think I'm paying for Sony's just because I support the better platform. You can support something and not agree with something else they offer.

As for Microsoft, you can't say they don't have enough money to have made GWG better. But as usual, they chose to offer less while gamers paid more for less quality.

[JEECE]

Lol remember how the new PS Plus system was "so confusing" because there were three tiers?

[Crows90]

They've already forgotten about that.

[badz149]

and so it begins?? let's start rolling that steamroller MS! let's GO!

[tbagmonster]

so it went from 4.99 a month to play online to 9.99 a month wtf huh are they retarted

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

What a business model….

Everybody in the pool, or GTFO.

[PunksOnN4G]

gamepass core 1-year option is 130$ but GWG was 60$ but hey if thays vaule then have fun

[ChasterMies]

So Games with Gold is ending. Games with Gold had gotten so bad, I doubt anyone will care. The 25 game catalog sounds a lot like the PlayStation Plus catalog that Sony launched with the PS5 and then sunset this last spring. For longtime subscribers, there were a lot of titles that had already been offered with PlayStation Plus. Will Microsoft’s catalog be fixed for the this generation or do they plan on rotating titles? The pricing is also a big “if”. Microsoft floated the idea of $10/month a few years ago and the outrage sent them back to $60 annual plans. $10/month to play games on-line would be outrageous (especially because games should be free to play on-line). Don’t get greedy, Microsoft. This is how you lost the console war.

[CrimsonWing69]

Good riddance, I have no idea why they didn't take it out back and put it down several years ago.

[sertz]

@dumahim , so... You're telling me you aren't going to play those games while they are in gamepass? Huh.. Fair enough. But, then again, why not?

I mean if you have the time, which you clearly do... And the energy, well... That one is up for debate... But you're basically given free games for months at a time. And you are complaining? You could always just... I don't know... Buy them if you like them? Fuc**** Dumba**.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Or something like that. Bit**. Own them if you want. Play them if you like. Done and done. Cun*.