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Activision refused to bring Call of Duty to Xbox unless Microsoft went beyond 70-30 rev share

Activision threatened to not launch its powerful $31 billion Call of Duty franchise on Xbox Gen9 unless Microsoft offered a favorable revenue split.

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crazyCoconuts325d ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they had the same stipulations on other stores on PC and PS. COD is an unusually dominant game like Fortnite was, and like Epic with Fortnite, they are trying to leverage that size to get better terms.
Exactly what MS will do if they own it.

Christopher325d ago

Playstation only takes 20% of CoD sales on their store. CMA uncovered this in their findings. This is essentially just confirming that Activision strong-armed everyone in this and shows how powerful the IP COD is to have and wield such bargaining power.

sinspirit325d ago

Exactly. I was saying before that it's completely an obviously lie when MS tried to say CoD wasn't as big of a deal as it is.. while they also knew how damn important CoD was to all the services they signed a contract for where they agreed to host CoD on their service with no profit split for the service. If it isn't so damn important then how can you convince a bunch of services to host your game without taking a dime of the profit? Because it's obviously a system selling game, and that also means service seller.

InUrFoxHole325d ago

Sony apparently doesn't think COD is so important anymore.

shinoff2183324d ago

Inurfoxhole

Is it not being reported Ryan's email was from when the deal was announced. He probably assumed it'd be more of the same, and is it not being reported that ms later gave word they would want 100 percent of the profits from cod.

If true of course ryan would change his tune. He'd be an idiot and fired if he didn't.

Again idk if it'd Tru but I've read it in a few different places.

OptimusDK324d ago

@/shinoff2183
That is a lie please show proof of that.
MS showed they would give parity on price and features

Christopher324d ago

***That is a lie please show proof of that.***

https://mp1st.com/news/micr...

***MS showed they would give parity on price and features***

Pricing doesn't mean how much of that goes back to Microsoft and how much goes to Sony. Much like how we know from this that Activision forced everyone to cut their take just to have CoD on their platform.

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sparky77325d ago

This is why MS is buying ABK Sony's dominance is causing too many games to skip Xbox so the only way they can compete is by securing the content permanently.

Neonridr325d ago

I'm sorry, aside from exclusive games from 1st party studios what games are skipping Xbox? Games that Sony paid money for to keep off of Xbox via timed exclusivity?

sparky77325d ago

Exactly that. Final Fantasy, Silent Hill, Megaman, Octopath, KOTOR etc.

DarkZane325d ago

@sparky77 those are only timed exclusives. If they're not coming to Xbox, it's because the developers don't give a shit about Xbox, not because Sony threw money at them. You xbox fanboys might need to stop saying nonsense, you're embarassing yourself.

RpgSama325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

@Sparky77

Which Octopath? Because the first released on Game pass but it's still not available on PlayStation, now the second one released on PlayStation and not on Xbox (I'm pretty sure that if it would have made business sense after releasing the first one on Xbox, they would have done it again).

Kotor was originally an Xbox Exclusive,

Or it works in your favor but not against?

SICKINDIVIDUAL324d ago

I agree timed exclusivity doesn't hurt anyone long term.

shinoff2183324d ago

Did Sony pay for octopath not to be on xbox. You really think that. That's weird. Maybe ms didn't offer a gamepass deal like the first and square knew damn well it wouldn't sell as a regular game on there. It's also on Nintendo.

Ms has 3rd party exclusive deals to sparky. Why do you guys ignore those on xbox. You act like ms doesn't have any.

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RpgSama325d ago

Actually, Sony had already agreed to a lower % for COD, I remember reading that months ago.

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

Yep, they take discounted margins, so not because of Sony dominance that ABK wanted a bigger piece of the pie, it's because of COD dominance.

Christopher325d ago

Sony also was strong-armed by Activision. You are acting like Sony was in control of this but this was Activision wielding the power of COD, nothing else. Why would you put that level of power in one platform owner's hand when it obviously is powerful enough to get the #1 platform to bow to their demands?

ironmonkey325d ago

Well, nothing sells well there deal with it.

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XBManiac324d ago

If you are not able to sell the "Best console" to more people, it is not Activision or Sony problem... Ask Sony and Nintendo how they can sell "lower quality" products and games in a bigger quantity. Maybe you can learn something about business and stop being the third. With Xbox 360 Microsoft had an opportunity... With Xbox One they lost everything others had done for more than 10 years. Some times, it is good to admit you have failed and retire, Phil.

shinoff2183324d ago

That's not sonys dominance, sure Sony has 3rd party deals just like Microsoft and Nintendo. Some developers are skipping xbox because they may feel it's just not worth it. Didn't xbox fans have to bag a inspector gadget developer some weeks ago for a port cause they were skipping the xbox. Do you really think sony paid for that to. If you do your gullible. Developers know where their games sell and xbox isn't doing it for some developers. Not every developer gets a gamepass deal.

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Abracadabra325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

Ironically, it's due to Sony's monopolistic tactics that's provoking these big purchases by Microsoft.

Sony was basically trying to make Starfield and COD as Playstation exclusives.

Rude-ro325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

You could not be further away from reality.
I get the spin you are selling, but name me 10 AAA Microsoft studio exclusives in the last 15 years. (Non sequels counting as another game)
And I will check them.
Without Microsoft’s exclusive moves with EA, activision, and Ubisoft Microsoft would not even be in gaming anymore.

Abracadabra325d ago

What the hell are you talking about? Do you simply change the subject as you please?

Christopher325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

Absolutely rubbish comment.

1. Activision also strong-armed PS and they only take cut of their normal amount from COD sales on PSN

https://n4g.com/news/253716...

2. There's absolutely nothing other than Phil saying "PlayStation had two timed exclusive games with Bethesda and Xbox was worried they'd do the same with Starfield" to suggest anything about the exclusivity of Starfield. Nothing. No one has mentioned other than that moment by Phil where he is merely adding speculation as to the possibility, but absolutely no proof or grounds that a Bethesda Softworks Game from Todd would ever be exclusive to PlayStation.

Abracadabra325d ago

Phil was under oath when talking about Starfield. Do you believe he was lying?

Christopher325d ago

He was under oath and said "we believed" and not "we knew". Do you understand the difference?

Abracadabra325d ago

This is from the IGN page...
"Back in 2020 — when Microsoft announced its plans to buy Bethesda — journalist Imran Khan first reported on Starfield's potential PlayStation exclusivity, writing "Sony had been negotiating timed exclusivity on Starfield as recently as a few months ago. Going to guess either those talks are done or the price suddenly went way, way up." Shortly after in early 2021, the reports started to surface that Starfield would head exclusively to Xbox Series X|S."

Christopher325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

@Abracadabra Again, believed, not known. First, it's highly misleading as it was rumored as a timed exclusivity, not exclusivity. Second, rumored, not proven or known beyond that. Just rumored. So, yes, Microsoft didn't know, they just believed it based on a rumor.

"FUN NOTE: Sony had been negotiating timed exclusivity on Starfield as recently as a few months ago. Going to guess either those talks are done or the price suddenly went way, way up."

https://twitter.com/imranzo...

They made this purchase based on a rumor of a timed exclusive deal but there is no proof of it other than one journalist making the reference without any sources at all. Heck, I'd be just as right to put out the idea that Microsoft created that rumor in the first place as you would that Sony was trying to make a deal. We both have zero proof of either situation.

Pyrofire95324d ago

In reply to what you said to me I was basing my comment off Abracadabra said with his IGN quote. What are you even debating on. Sony had been making many deals with studios. Fact. Xbox had not been as much. Fact. Xbox did not even make many first party games over the Xbone gen. Fact. Xbox is now stepping up with a more aggressive buisness strategy.
I'm sitting here trying to figure out how to respond and it's so hard to gauge you. You're just bringing all these counter points to things I wasn't even talking about.
I don't even care. I don't play on Xbox and I think Todd Howard is a con artist.
You're flooding my with all this pointless information that irrelevant to my point.
To put my point clearly: Sony had been aggressive and now Xbox is stepping up.
I'm not talking about conspiracy or word of mouth, it's evident by what games are releasing where.

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StormSnooper325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

Ohhhh so its Sony's fault that MS is doing this to the industry? got it. S:

Jesus the lengths you guys go to to allow your favorite corporation to ruin gaming is astounding. You are not getting anything new because of this deal! All you are doing is denying Multiplatform games to others bro. Pressure MS to make games, not deprive others, it doesn't add anything to you.

King Nezz325d ago

@StormSnooper
"Ohhhh so its Sony's fault that MS is doing this to the industry?"

😂 Get off the internet, kid. We've gotten GoW:Ragnarok, Totk, and Starfield in a few months to mention a few that have released and will release in less than one year. What the hell are you talking about? At least you can play Starfield on other platforms that are not Xbox. Can you say the same about the others?

OptimusDK324d ago

Doing this to the industry Ahahaha

StormSnooper322d ago

@King Nezz
clearly my comment went right over your head. Not sure what you mean by "we" have gotten GoW:Rangnarok? You mean gamers in general? I'm talking about MS's mergers and acquisitions game and their intent to deprive half of gamers from games they used to play as Multiplatform. MS is giving xbox gamers the same games they would have had anyway and telling them that it is exclusive instead of actually making new exclusives. They are making gaming for exclusive and smaller. Does this clear your confusion? Probably not.

@OptimusDK
Hope you enjoy it when the shoe is on the other foot.

@Pickledpepper
seems that some people reallly don't want to know the difference between a developer and a publisher. There IS a reason why one is called developer and the other is called a publisher.

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1Victor324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

@abracadabra:”Sony was basically trying to make Starfield and COD as Playstation exclusives.”

Any source to that claim or it’s just 💩 you just pulled it out of your magic money hat

Anyways activision greed goes beyond what I thought 30 and 20% with no negotiation take it or we take it out it’s just crazy

KyRo324d ago

Sony doesn't have a monopoly. They simply make great games, work with third parties, just like Nintendo to gain dominance.

All MS has to do is make consistently good games but they can't even do that correctly. Playing the victim card for their shortcoming like it's anyone else fault but their own is backwards

shinoff2183324d ago

Sony was trying to get stsrfield as a TIMED EXCLUSIVE. Timed being the key word there. Huge huge huge difference.

Hell I take starfield on ps a year later or 6 months whatever. Timed isn't forever. The Xbox fanbase is completely leaving out this though to try and make their exclusive argument look better. It's bs. Atleast acknowledge it wasn't forever exclusive

Pyrofire95324d ago

I seriously don't get how people are so strongly disagreeing and kind of making things up to debate this. You provided a quote that undeniably said Sony was negotiating exclusivity and then others are say "BeLiEvE tHeY dID"
As a PS and PC player, yes Sony went PRETTY hard on getting exclusivity deals at a time when Xbox Studios was not putting out many games and Xbox had few deals and rocky studio relationships. This a clearly a response from Xbox to begin stepping up.

Christopher324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

You're choosing to be ignorant.

"When we acquired ZeniMax one of the impetus for that is that Sony had done a deal for Deathloop and Ghostwire… to pay Bethesda to not ship those games on Xbox. So the discussion about Starfield when we heard that Starfield was potentially also going to end up skipping Xbox, we can’t be in a position as a third-place console where we fall further behind on our content ownership so we’ve had to secure content to remain viable in the business."

They 'heard' it was skipping. Where did they hear it from? From this one journalist with zero sources who said:

https://twitter.com/imranzo...

"FUN NOTE: Sony had been negotiating timed exclusivity on Starfield as recently as a few months ago. Going to guess either those talks are done or the price suddenly went way, way up."

So, first, they didn't 'know' anything, only 'heard' it. Do you 'know' something is going to happen from an online rumor? Do you spend $68b on a rumor?

Second, it wasn't even outright exclusivity. It was a rumor about a timed exclusivity. And not even about Bethesda's position on it or what happened. Only that Sony was interested in it. That's it.

Third, that's it. That was the full source and news. One person said something. That's it.

So, yes, they 'believed' the rumor. They didn't 'know' anything.

That's it. That's the whole story. Nothing more. Straight from Phil's own mouth.

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Abracadabra325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

Sony took a cut because they were promoting COD and had timed exclusive COD content.

Sony likely takes a cut on all their 3rd party exclusives, like Final Fantasy 16.

Christopher325d ago

And Microsoft doesn't take cuts for their 3rd party exclusives? But, more to the point, are you ignoring that both consoles took a cut for a game that wasn't exclusive to either at all? This isn't about Sony, it's about Activision. Activision forced this on everyone.

Abracadabra325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

@Christopher
What part of timed exclusive COD content for PS5 don't you understand?
Do you really expect Activision to make timed exclusive COD content (like DLC's) for nothing in return?

Christopher325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

Sure, wash Activision's hands clean in this scenario to only focus on Sony when everyone was affected. Did Microsoft take a similar cut when they had exclusivity deals with Activision as well? Was Microsoft, at that time, wielding its power to disenfranchise Sony or is it just Sony?

I'm honestly getting lost in all the circular logic going on here that people are making when what is clear is that CoD is too powerful for any platform owner to have when it wields this level of power as a third-party company already.

Abracadabra325d ago (Edited 325d ago )

@Christopher
Yes, Activision likely took a cut from Microsoft when they had timed exclusive deals.

Why would any 3rd party developer make exclusive content if not to be compensated in some form or another? No 3rd party developer makes exclusive content for free.

Christopher325d ago

***Why would any 3rd party developer make exclusive content if not to be compensated in some form or another? No 3rd party developer makes exclusive content for free.***

They are marketing deals to get free promotion of the game. Sony literally paid for those commercials you saw. That's the payment. Why the expectation for more if Sony has that much power? Again, I'm confused on whether Sony has power or not here. It's getting confusing. Sony is the market leader, but it can't use that against Activision, but Activision can use its market power to affect others.

You're not seeing the point here. You're so focused on Sony you're not seeing that the problem is Activision. Let alone the fact that Activision is too powerful for either one to not make marketing deals with them. You just only want to see the money Sony paid, which is the same thing Microsoft paid. It's just Sony's fault, though. It's not... this is a COD issue.

This is why I hate this whole merger. People aren't seeing the issue. It's not Microsoft buying ABK. It's *anyone* but a third-party buying them.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk776h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE2h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7302h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

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Rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase could happen this week per industry insider

A renowned industry insider has suggested the rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase featuring Silent Hill 2 could happen this week.

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Petebloodyonion4h ago

Bogus!
Why would Sony do that and how would this benefit them?
1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event.
2) Risk of not having great coverage or proper coverage from the various source
3) It could give the impression that they are not confident in their own stuff.
4) They would miss the chance to hype the event losing viewers and losing free marketing time.

Again I'm calling it bogus unless it's a small showcase before the big one or because they want to announce that Hellbalde 2 is also coming on PS5.

SlothLordPootus4h ago

As far as I can remember, they typically give a week heads up for these sorts of things.

Lightning774h ago

I was about to say Sony always gives a week in advance for their show.

VersusDMC3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Last year it was a weeks notice.

https://blog.playstation.co...

May 17th announcement for may 24th show.

VersusDMC3h ago

Nintendo always tweets that a direct is happening tomorrow but no one cares.

Sony gives a week or days of notice and we get anti sony type fake outrage like this.

But good luck trying trying to get some Sony hate going...

Petebloodyonion2h ago

You just mention it!
Sony gives a week in advance NOT just a couple of days.
So I fail to see what Sony's hate movement I'm trying to start when it's a basic business strategy to not piss off your partners (ask Sega).
And I doubt it's hate to ask how it would benefit Sony in doing so.

thesoftware7302h ago(Edited 2h ago)

@Versus
Huh? What?

Bro you really should relax, if what you read was some kinda negative against Sony.... seriously, is that what you got from the comments?

Bro, he was debunking the rumor, and gave perfectly good reasons why it would be unlikely, and your Nintendo Direct comparison is different, as this is supposed to be a BIG Sony showcase, not a surprise 20 min direct, and Sony 's pattern has been one week.

Slow down warmonger.

VersusDMC2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

@thesoftware730

"1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event."

That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind?

And it's not like they need that many resources to cover the stream. They just need 3 people to react to the stream live and make some easy articles made up mostly of summaries of Sony provided press releases. They would have enough time to "prepare" if it was announced with one days notice.

Petebloodyonion26m ago

@Versus
" That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind"

No, it simply implies that some media all over the world might (keyword MIGHT) not properly cover the event like having proper articles for each game announced, or having a proper preshow. maybe some popular YouTubers won't have time to prepare or simply your local newspaper doing an article on tech and game.

So why would Sony take a chance?
What benefit would that give them?

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Petebloodyonion2h ago

Before I get tons of replies for Sony given a week in advance, my initial comments are related to the notion that the Show could happen this week as the title mentions.
Now to be fair the complete article mentions that Jeff said the Show could happen later in May giving time for Sony to give the normal 7-day notice.

Again not trying to start a negative thing here just thinking that it's bogus that Sony will have a show this week

notachance1h ago

Yeah as much as I’d like to hear what sony’s 1st parties have cooked, it’s not their style to shadow drop a showcase.

Still waiting for ghost of tsushima 2, I’m ready whenever man..

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Hofstaderman1h ago

Going in with no expectations but likely will see something that resonates with me.

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername20h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake19h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

TheEroica4h ago

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt for some gamers.... 🤣

Barlos17h ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername10h ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic188113h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_13h ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces12h ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning7712h ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

FinalFantasyFanatic3h ago

I can see them going for PS5/Switch/PC for the most part, it'll mostly likely be the Switch 2 by the time their next game enters development, which is probably a good thing since the Switch is struggling with 3rd party games. If they're hurting for money/sales, I don't see them bothering with Xbox, that's just wasted time/money for them.

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DarXyde13h ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

FinalFantasyFanatic2h ago

I don't think the exclusivity hurts them as badly as they think, I think it's a range of factors, like the quality of the games, high sales expectations, ESG/DEI, censorship, development costs/time... I also suspect that Square-Enix is extremely inefficient with their resources, they struggled/avoided towns in the FF13 trilogy, and FF14 was mostly wilderness with little to do apart from derp about in the wild (they also avoid towns and making a lot of characters there too). But FF14 also went through development hell, I think Square-Enix just needs to overall how they do everything, because the way they manage that studio just isn't working.

Christopher12h ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson9h ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

EternalTitan8h ago

16 isnt even a JRPG let alone a final fantasy game.
So glad that it bombed.

itsmebryan5h ago

Square finally realized what Sony figured out recently, their installed base is not enough. We are going to see a lot less exclusives from everyone moving forward.

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CrashMania20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz19h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff218314h ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman18h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware73017h ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde13h ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Michiel19898h ago

@hofstaderman the board and shareholders have always called the shots or had a huge impact on decisions.

Xbox finished lmao, the writing has been on the wall? mate they just spend 70 BILLION dollars, and you see the writing is on the wall that they're done. 0 idea what you're talking about. They grafiti'd on the wall and you still can't see it.

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Aloymetal15h ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware73015h ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_13h ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk7718h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake13h ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Michiel19898h ago

I'm kinda worried about the future of DQ though, Toriyama and the composer both passed away. Huge blow to the franchise.

FinalFantasyFanatic2h ago

@Michiel1989,
Akira Toriyama had an understudy though, he emulates his style, so maybe he'll do the art for Dragon Quest games, I would love to see Nobue Uematsu do music for the series though, that could be fun if they could convince him.

FinalFantasyFanatic2h ago

I'll be so p*ssed if that doesn't go ahead, also, where's DQ12 at? They've been silent on that for so long, and it was announced years ago.

@gold_Drake,
I'm pretty sure they can siphon some profit from A Realm Reborn to keep FF and Dragon Quest going too. I think the company would have gone bankrupt if it wasn't for that cash cow.

Charal18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast17h ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware73016h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast16h ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast11h ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto9h ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

Michiel19898h ago

asks for numbers. receives numbers and then continues to say I don't wanna click a website (because it might shatter my illusion)

anast6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

@All the people with that good 'ol folk wisdom

It's ironic how I clearly asked for the site and people still can't even answer this simple question.

Tell me how many people click on random links on forums?

Tell me the site and I will look. I don't mind being wrong and I'm barely intelligent enough to change my mind with something substantial.

All the numbers I have seen is that PC doesn't even come close console gaming in revenue, and nothing touches mobile gaming. More people touching something doesn't mean anything. It just means more people own PC for work and touch Steam every now and again, those numbers mean even less.

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Babadook75h ago

From what I can ascertain PC is a smaller market than PS. There are occasionally times when PC looks to be stronger but overall it's still behind.

FinalFantasyFanatic2h ago

PC also has a lot more competition, especially when people can easily buy and play older games from 20 or so years ago on it.

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