Getting To Market First Helped MS Beat Sony This Generation

Each console generation brings with it fierce competition between the consoles/companies. While it's undisputable that Nintendo did what was necessary this generation to securely capture the casual gaming market (as Wii sales clearly indicate), the battle for the attention of the more hardcore gaming crowd was, again, between Microsoft and Sony.

Could it be that simply making it to market first is the reason Microsoft is faring better than Sony this console generation? It very well could be - and if that's the case, it's all due to some smart business decisions by Microsoft, and a bit of embarrassing oversight by Sony.

[Shadow Flare]

At the sacrifice of not designing the console properly

Align the console launches together, who sells more: PS3 or 360?
-PS3

If the consoles were priced the same, which would sell more?
-PS3

Why is it in the lead?
-Microsoft released a broken console a year early and has had to drop the price again and again making it cheaper then a wii, because ps3 was outselling it again, and again, and again.

I don't think MS have beaten Sony this generation

[Frag Monger]

Sales figures say differently. ;)

[Shadow Flare]

Aligned launch sales figures don't

[trancefreak]

And microsoft has run low on exclusives because of it.

[Frag Monger]

Total sales figures are what matters.

Since PS3's launch in November 2006, Xbox 360 has outsold PS3 by nearly 2:1 on average, bringing a total U.S. Xbox 360 install base of 9.2 million consoles, compared to and installed base of 7.4 million Wii consoles and 3.3 million PS3 consoles.

The 360 has sold FAR more than double what the PS3 has. That's the concrete basis for saying MS beat Sony this gen. Spin it any way you like, but Sony is losing this gen - badly.

[Shadow Flare]

"Total sales figures are what matters"

No it doesn't considering since launch ps3 has been outperforming 360 worldwide. You're about 11 years old aren't you? Consider this shocking fact: America...isn't...the...world

It's a known fact that 360 usually sells better in the US then ps3. Turn to the biggest gaming territory in the world however (Europe) and ps3 launched 16 months after 360 and has outsold it in total numbers despite always being considerbly more expensive.

And let's not even talk about Japan. The 3rd territory where 360 is effectively dead. Box 360 had 1 year headstart. Take that year away, ps3 has outsold it

[Frag Monger]

You are wrong. Plain & simple. Here's the proof (WORLDWIDE FIGURES):

Total Units Shipped to retail (Worldwide) as of Nov. 2008:

Wii - 34.55 Million
Xbox 360 - 22.5 Million
PS3 - 16.84 Million

The 360 has outsold the PS3 in total sales in every world region except Japan (follow the link).

Source: http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi...

Oh - and I'm 40 pal. Perhaps you are the one who is 11.

[Karum]

"Total sales figures are what matter"

If that is indeed true then let's check what the sales figures are at the end of each consoles life cycle.

360 around and supported for 10 years? Can't see it.

Have a disagree and -bubble for stupidity, what 40 year old thinks the US and it's sales figures alone are the only thing that matters?

[Shadow Flare]

frag monger, what are you on? Did you not get from my comments that i said the reason 360 is ahead is because of its 1 year headstart? Let's use your numbers:

Xbox 360 - 22.5 Million
PS3 - 16.84 Million

Take a year's sales off 360's and who would be ahead?
Considering i believe 2 years into its life 360 had 13 million sold and ps3 had 17 million sold 2 years into its life respectively

ergo, align launch sales figures, and ps3 is performing much better then 360. What a shock.

[Sarcasm]

What's this nonsense about beating or winning? The 360 has been out for 3 years and the PS3 2 years. The PS3 is selling the same rate or better as the 360 in the same time frame at $200 more with competition.

God must really like ignorant blind fanboys, because he's making more and more of them everyday.

[morganfell]

I didn't know this generation was over....What is the new console?

[Highatus]

I was gunna say the same thing Morgan.

And to Frag, sorry man those are units Shipped not units sold, yes it has units sold on the link but you based them on shipped, and the link you provide only have the PS3 updated to may of 2008 (units sold in europe) not nov 2008 as the rest of the consoles you list.

I could really care less who sold what really, but if your going to state a fact make sure you provide up to date ones, and don't base them on unknown figures (shipped units means nothing).

[Sony PlayStation 3]

Who's 40 with a name like "Frag Monger" and trolls on a nerdy video game site like N4G 500+ times and has a total score of 20,430?

Who's 40 and thinks that America is the only place populated with the Human species?

Who's 40 and thinks the term "Total" means "American"?

LMAO Frag Monger! I like how you state the 360 is out selling PS3 well over 3-1, and then you post a link to a no-cred website that lists 360 sales through November 2008 but only lists PS3 sales through May 2008. Even worse is that you BS site lists 360 at 22.5 million and PS3 at 16.84 which is NOT a ratio of 3-1. LMAO! Your "facts" are so wrong that you can't even find a way to spin them!

[TheTwelve]

All of these poor excuses for journalism won't stop the Sony train in 2009 and beyond! That's right, take your shots now h8ers!

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[soxfan2005]

I challenge anyone to name a country that accounts for more worldwide sales than the U.S. The U.S. ALONE accounts for 40-45% of all worldwide sales. That's just ONE country! It takes another hundred or so countries COMBINED to equal that. Don't discount U.S. sales because "the US is not the world". Winning the US market is the biggest prize a console can hope for.

[Sony PlayStation 3]

It doesn't matter which country has the highest percentage of sales! By YOUR logic, since the US counts for 45% sales, who cares about the other 55% of the world. 55% is the majority so therefor it DOES matter!

There's somewhere around like 5 million PS3s is the US out of around 20 million world wide.

So... 5/20 = 25% NOT 45%

[SL1M DADDY]

Yes, and we ALL know that this generation is already over...

/sarcasm

Yeah right. Article = Fail

[Tempist]

Alright people, looks like this gen is over. Pack it up and wait for the next gen / round of consoles.

[panasonic23]

lol the same could be said about ps2 getting on market before the xbox gonna by sony f@n logic is superior to ps2 because it have better graphic, built in hard drive and xbox live.

[Sarcasm]

Actually the original Xbox is an excellent console. It was as cutting edge as it could be for it's time. Online play, excellent graphics, hard drive, DVD playback, reliable hardware, excellent controller.

It's sad the same cant be said about the 360.

[thebudgetgamer]

that race wasnt even close were this is neck and neck

:)

[poindat]

How is last gen comparable to this gen? I mean look, everything is backwards. The Xbox may have very well been able to overcome the PS2 had they launched at the same time, it was the superior console. But, with the PS2's amazing library of games, and still growing mind you while the Xbox is sitting dead, the PS2 is the console of choice for last gen.

Now out of the past and to the current day. I assume your point was that Sony fans call the PS3 superior because of its features even though it is lacking a bit in sales (I'm not even sure of this, it would be nice to try to use some grammar and sentence structure but I understand that English isn't everybody's first language :]). As I said above, the original Xbox can be called the superior console in terms of features, but did it have the games to beat out the PS2? No. Now game quality is a completley objective thing, though, so while I may say that the PS3 has the games that I (key word here is I) want, others may say the 360. Or the Wii. Or you could get all three if you have the time and money. But either way, in terms of software it is a VERY close call who has the best quality this gen.

I feel that I may be starting to drift off of the topic (maybe I have?) but, yeah, that's my view on this.

[cmrbe]

Sony still has more talent than MS. Sony still had ND,Poly,Santa Monica, Team ICO etc to push the PS2 hardware unlike MS last gen.

This gen is the same situation. MS is relying on a few first parties but mostly on 3rd parties to distinguish the x360 from the PS3 like they tried and failed last gen for the xbox.

[panasonic23]

lol

[PirateThom]

So, this console generation lasted from 2005 to 2008?

Funny, because I don't see any new consoles...

[Frag Monger]

MS has sold more than twice as many Xbox 360's as Sony has sold PS3's (See figures above).

Unless something truly amazing happens, Sony will never regain the lead this gen.

[PirateThom]

Apart from the fact the 360 hasn't sold double the number of PS3s.

Microsoft say 8m, but it's closer to 5m, difference.

[meepmoopmeep]

where have you been Thom?

i already own a PS4 and Xbox 720 and Wii 2.

it's NEXT gen already.
have you been living under a rock?

:)

[Sarcasm]

"MS has sold more than twice as many Xbox 360's as Sony has sold PS3's"

360, out for 3 years.
PS3, out for 2 years.

Since nobody cares about time frames, the PS2 even though it was out 5 years earlier than the 360, has outsold the 360 5:1.

See what I did?

[cmrbe]

no man. You are the one living under a rock. I already have

A wii-pii that plays NES level games.

A x1080p that finally plays 1080p games.

and a PS5 with 5d graphics.

[creeping judas]

MS drops price = desperation
SONY drops price = strategically awesome

Once the PS3 price cut comes into play in 2009, I can just see the magnificient praises to Sony for being a visionary by lowering their price.

[Frag Monger]

Desperation? Are you crazy? The 360 has outsold the PS3 by a margin of greater than 2:1 and the margin is only getting wider.

MS lowered the 360's price once they managed to lower their manufacturing costs for the system - and to help sales (which is 'strategically awsome'). Sony is still losing money on every PS3 they sell and got killed in holiday sales in 08 due to their lack of a price drop.

[creeping judas]

I'm not saying the price cut was desperation, the PS3 fanoboys do. And they also praise PS3 price cuts. Thats what I don't get.

[Frag Monger]

Ahh. Gotcha. I mis-read your post. ;)

Any PS3 price cuts mean Sony will be losing even more on each PS3 sold.

[El_Colombiano]

2:1 sales huh? Is that why, up until the recent price drop of the 360, the PS3 was constantly outselling the 360 world wide for the entire year? Or maybe since the 360 has outsold the PS3 2:1, which the PS3 is at 23 Million right now, indicates that the 360 has sold 46 Million? Oh wait....no. Only 28 Million shipped while 23 Million PS3's sold. Your logic fails so hard. That 5 Million gap is the only thing you trolls can talk about, and you know what bud? Its closing. And its closing fast.

The PS3 outsold the 360 in 2007, and in 2008. If you look at the sales matter in a logical way, which I doubt you could comprehend it but still, the PS3 has always been outselling the 360. On 360's launch year, it failed to sell as much as the PS3's launch year.

[Sarcasm]

The same thing was said about the PS3 when it dropped it's price from $599 to $499 and $499 to $399. Sony is desperate!

What you fail to see, is that everybody including PS3 fanboys and 360 fanboys is the only way the PS3 can continue to be competitive is to drop the price again.

Is it a move in desperation? Not quite. It's a half-dikked 2" brained monkey obvious NEEDED price cut.

[00]

I think people say because that happened like what...the first six month it hit the stores?.

[poindat]

"strategically awesome"

Heh, I love your use of those two words.

[cmrbe]

When Sony drop the price of the PS3 it was already $200-$300 more than competition. That is not desperation but rather smart business.

Desperation is dropping the price to below the wii price point when its already 200 dollars cheaper than direct competition.

Do you guys get it now?.

[Parapraxis]

"Desperation? Are you crazy? The 360 has outsold the PS3 by a margin of greater than 2:1 and the margin is only getting wider. "
No, desperation would be trying to explain to you how very VERY wrong that statement is and have you COMPREHEND it.
The facts are readily available on the internet. Maybe check them again. Claiming 360 has outsold the PS3 by a margin of over 2:1 is absolute dilusion.
To think people can be this uninformed and ignorant and yet are still be able to operate a computer is beyond me.

[cmrbe]

in the end the PS3 will sell for at least ten years because of Sony's foresight in building the PS3 to last.

Blu-ray,HDIM 1.3, Cell, Wi-Fi, Standard HD and of course reliability all delayed the PS3 launch as well as its's original price point but it won't matter in the long run.

The PS3 at its most difficult period it it's lifetime is averaging around 9 million consoles a year. This is something most people still don't get. When the PS3 reaches its peak meaning 199 price point and FF13(vs),GT5 and the rest of PS major exclusive are out. The PS3 will average at least 13 million PS3 a year which will mean at least 100 million in 9 years. It will be more or less the same as what the PS2 did.

[Droid Control]

It wasn't being first that helped M$ win, it was cheaper hardware and LUCK.
Luck that the economy crumbled making ps3 too expensive for people. Luck that the PS3 had early problems with the diodes and cell processor.

Basically, if the economey was better, and sony hadn't dropped the ball, M$ wouldn't be 8 million ahead.

M$ have just been very lucky then generation...

[GiantEnemyLobster]

Sony "3rd place" loses

[Oner]

Holy $#@!! When did this "gen" end!?!?! Did I miss something? :rollseyes:

[RonRico]

Why the h3ll is this dumb4ss story on here?
Oh and the "next"gen of consoles is officially over and won by 360. \sar

[foo]

i wasnt aware that this generation was over...

[cmrbe]

The gaming industry shrunk from 170 million console owners to only 70 million this gen.

Yes it's true. /end sarcasm.

[jetlian]

why did it drop?! o wait it was never 170 million gamers. i know atleast 4 people including me who have had atleast 2 ps2's and I had 2 ps1's.

if your a hardcore gamer and you have 20+ games and your system goes out you buy another 1. you don't let games go to waste.

Also for piratethrom check vgcharts xbox sold 13.5 million first 2 years. ps3 sold 5.6 million its first year. which both ended in nov 2007. so 13.5- 5.6 = what 7.9 million differance!!

So for MS to get to 8 wasn't that hard to believe. also 360 sold 5.5 million first year which shows the gap getting wider not smaller

[T-Baggins]

First the generation is not over yet, second Sony has yet to post there sales for 2008. Micros!it has done nothing as of yet.

[NotSoSilentBob]

When did the 7th Gen Game Consoles get over with? I though it is still being fought now? Or do the xboxers need another "Reassurace" Topic

[DR-IVO]

Microsoft rushed it with a faulty product. If Microsoft developers could use their brains for once and released a product that actually works and released it during the same time frame as the PS3 and the Wii the 360 would be struggling as much as the ps3 is.

[JeepGamer]

With a year head start and an unforgivably bad failure rate I would hardly boast about the 360 'beating' anyone, particularly when the PS3 reached milestones faster and was outselling the 360 handily before it dropped to bargain bin pricing for no other reason than the fact that it was being out sold.

[Enigma_2099]

I bet they're really wishing Solid Snake killed you at Outer Heaven right about now...

[CryofSilence]

It's not over until the fat lady sings.

[Sarcasm]

Aaron Greenburg has been singing a lot lately

[Sony PlayStation 3]

You must live by me! Aaron Greenburg went door-to-door Christmas Caroling in my neighborhood.

[Enigma_2099]

... I mean it's been so long since they've been on this site shooting off their mouths, I'm starting to think they're more concerned with making the PS3 a kickass system than yapping their traps and beating their chests...

... someone tell Shane Kim and Aaron Greenburg to take notes...

... and don't you just LOOOVE how they talk about how they came out on top by outselling Sony... while they continue to deny the existence of Nintendo... who has outsold... AND CONTINUES TO OUTSELL them... but they'll jump on any opportunity to point out when Sony drops to THIRD place in sales... the only time they even acknowledge the Wii's existence...

[Obama]

I just find it funny that since the "x" console don't have much exclusive games in 2009, people have to rely on sales data to justify their purchase. I really could care less who or what sells more as long as great games are being pumped out for the "p" console.

[Mitch_Cumstein]

Everyone was saying MS blew all their good games in the previsou fall so they will have nothing to offer in 08. In fact many people deemed 2008 the year of the PS3, because MS would have no games left to release.

Guess what? They were DEAD WRONG

[cmrbe]

The only reason the x360 is still alive is not because of its games. Its because of it's price drop to mass market price. The effect won't last though.

[butbutbuttehcell]

"The only reason the x360 is still alive is not because of its games. Its because of it's price drop to mass market price. The effect won't last though."

I think you'll find it is because of it's games. People normally buy a console for the games. U think Gears 2, Fable 2 and Left 4 Dead didn't attract anyone to buy a 360 this xmas? U think they just saw the $199 price tag and say, I'll have one of those as an ornament. The only reason the 360 is still alive?! well 14 million are paying to play online so that's over half of the people who own one...

Btw has Sony even sold 20 million PS3's yet? People say it's gonna catch up but it's very unlikely. When Microsoft say they've sold 28 million some people think it's a lie lol. Businesses aren't allowed to do that lol, they can't just lie about sales! I think some people are just bitter that their console is behind by an ever-increasing margin. When Sony announce that they've sold more PS3s than 360s is when Sony will be beating MS and that won't be happening in 2009

[Mutley416]

The PS3 had the worse Launch ever-
They shoot them selves in the foot from the word go-
So many people wanted a PS3 on Launch day...Maybe Close to 2 million-
They came with 250,000 That left alot of pissed off people, who where happy to buy more gear for there Xboxes-

+ The PS3 had 1 game @ Launch...and 18 terrible games...so the Hype, was gone-

The 360 might have had RROD but atleast people got some good games and consoles to play them on-

Sony is stuck, and will need a miracle to Win the Console Wars-

[yojoe26]

For a forty year old you have a lot of growing up to do. I'm not even gonna try to convince to that I think you are sorely mistaken about your little ideas because you obviously think you are God's gift to intellect. However, I will say this: Get back to me in 2010 or 2011 and let me know what you think about this generation of consoles. My prediction? Xbox 360 is dropped like a hot potatoe at the beginning of 2010 and all the 360 fans are left out in the cold as a result of Microsoft releasing their new annual console (just like last gen). The 720 is released sporting a surprise: a new halo game and this wonderful new hardware malfunction that is know to blow up HDTV's. PS3 is in full swing as an unstoppable force and selling like hotcakes due to the new price tag of 299.99 or 249.99, Incredibly huge list of exclusives, excellent third party support, and free (and very solid) online service. This is my opinion. You have your opinions too, but don't be ignorant about it by saying that Sony is beaten this generation. For Sony this "generation" is a ten year cycle, for Microsoft this "generation" is whatever short time period they can keep their hardware alive and win the race. The very second Microsoft starts to fall behind they will release a new console. Mark my words. All this to say that technically in the very end of things the PS3 will have a larger install base than the 360 because it will keep selling LONG after the 360 rolls over and dies....

[Agent VX]

ROTFLOL....

And while you are playing last generation games on your PS3, I will be playing far far superior games on my new Xbox 720. So while you talk and cheer about how in 2012 that the PS3 finally beat the 360 in total sales, nobody will care!!!

I am corrected, you will care.... LOL!!!

Sony dropped the ball this generation, and they dropped prices in huge desperation just to try and stay afloat with the PS3. They lost a whole bunch of cash just to keep the PS3 in the game, now.... that is desperation folks. How quick the PS3 fanboys forget this FACT!!!

[Parapraxis]

"They lost a whole bunch of cash just to keep the PS3 in the game"
Odd, I thought that was Microsoft who lost a lot of cash extending all the warranties to 3 years in order to avoid lawsuits.
How they got away with it is baffling, no product on market has ever had such low yeild.
Well maybe Goodyear tires, but they exploded...oh wait.

[Mitch_Cumstein]

Which is the better advantage? Getting a 5 year headstart in the entire gaming industry or launching a year earlier.

Anyone with a shred of common sense realizes that Sony has a tremendous advantage over MS since they have been building brand recognition and a loyal consumer base. Look at all the PS2s out there.

The PS3's demise centers around an expensive price point and a lack of software as a result of the PS3's confusing architecture. Also delays on games and services hurt too. Launching at the same time doesn't make all those problems go away.

[40cal]

Again? Really? Lack of games?

I promise you I had more quality games to buy for the PS3 in 2008 than I did for the 360 in 2008 and it is looking the same if not better for 2009.

"The PS3's demise" LOL that one will never happen.

"the PS3's confusing architecture." Wow so you are a dev now? Cool. But that architecture that you are talking about has made for better 360 -3rd party- games as well as some of the most technacly advanced games that the industry has ever seen.

And is price really been a problem? Yes it has stopped the PS3 from putting up Wii type numbers but if you take a good look at it.
Sales
360 28 million in 3 years= 9.3 mill a year
PS2 20 million in 2 years at higher price point.= 10 mill a year

[pansenbaer]

Ooooo 40cal, don't let 'thenickle' catch you saying the 360 has been out for 3 years. Apparently, that one year was just an illusion....

http://n4g.com/RedirectToOb...

[TheColbertinator]

Microsoft won against Sony but not Nintendo.

These are the real sales factors

-Superior Hardware

-Lowest Price Point

-Quality Games

-Marketing

Nintendo has two of those nailed and won the console war a few months ago.The fight with MS and Sony is the battle for 2nd place

[SONYSLAVE]

Superior Hardware and Quality Games.

I agree also

[Gue1]

Superior hardware? In what way?

PS3 already has better looking games and it does not RRoD like the X360... Come on tell me two face.

[Unicron]

I think the Xbox 360 is a solid system. It has a strong lineup of titles, and Xbox Live is great, though I dislike that it's a pay service. However, I'm simply astounded at the fact that consumers give MS a free pass when it comes to hardware reliability. It took THREE YEARS for MS to FIX the problem with the "Jasper Board," or so we are to believe thus far. While I commend them for putting out a 3 year warranty for the RROD, that does NOT excuse them KNOWINGLY shipping a broken console just to beat the competition, regardless of if the strategy "worked or not." The RROD and disc scratching, KNOWN issues before launch, are not something ANY consumer should have to deal with. Then again, the PS2 DRE wasn't something we should have to deal with either. I for one hope the next generation of consoles is a little more... respectable for consumers.

[LightningPS3PS3]

How many times do I have to say it? Sony shot themselves in the foot when they decides to price themselves so much higher than the competition for features that have little to do with gaming. Like Blu ray.

I though Sony had learned their lesson, but when XBOX 360 got a price cut and Sony didn't answer it really raised my eye brow. And now, I'm starting to wonder if maybe Sony is indeed planning to throw in the towel.

[Reibooi]

Getting to market first helped MS beat Sony? Ok i can understand that.

but at what cost?

MS rushing is the reason we have the horrible RROD had they not rushed they would never had had such a widespread problem. MS incurred a MASSIVE cost hit to raise the warranties on 360's so while they may have beat Sony I don't think it was the right thing to do.

[Queers of War]

ha they're talking as if this gen is already over. MS trying to quit while they're ahead or something? this gen is just getting started

[Narutone66]

discontinue the xbox 360 while they are ahead by a slim margin to boast that they won this generation. Then rush out another defective hardware and say that they are first to the market again.

[Oner]

People will no doubt underestimate how insanely TRUE that statement is/will be Narutone66. But the funny thing is how can they actually say/prove something like that when Ninty alone will prove them wrong at the very least....you know how...they will spin it to be against Sony (as usual).

[Monty_The_Great]

article is great/horrible, I don't know or care. What does amaze me is where people get these sites from. Seriously how do you guys come up with these sites?

[Narutone66]

It's obviously made by hardcore xbox fanboys to assure themselves that their console is not failing.

[Monty_The_Great]

I understand that it is made by some fanboy. But my question is, what the hell do you type in the search engine to find it? Do you type in "the most biased xbox 360 source" and this is something you come up with? The same goes for the PS3 and most of the insane sites they find for it to.

[Narutone66]

Just look to the contributor of the story. Probably the website are made by them or their friends and submitted here. Frag Monger is a hardcore xbox fanboy. Just look at his comment history.

[DrWan]

MSFT is already declaring themselves winners of this generation? This article is retarded, I am not even clicking into it to give it traffic so it can earn that 2 cents off of me for the banner that it maybe running.

The war has just begun, the X360 probably doesnt have much more room to do anymore priced drops, on the other hand, PS3 with its future price cut and do some pretty big damage. You better believe it.

[buddyro]

I did not know the war is over ???

[METtAL-GAMER]

People are actually surprised that Microsoft's head start helped them in sales?Good job for pointing out the obvious.

[jcgamer]

that's the truth...everyone in Redmond understands this...Shane Kim even predicts FLAT PERFORMANCE in 2009...lol

[Nathaniel_Drake]

So the PS3, 360, and Wii have been discontinued according to the title???

[Ldubbz]

A lead start always helps. MS figured the best way to capture market share from Sony was to decide exactly when the next-gen started, which was genius.

When Sony said the next-gen doesnt start until the PS3, it was a symbolic statement. They of course knew that the 360 was indeed a next-gen console, but didnt want to give MS the power to say when the next-gen started.

Sony had to show that they were indeed still the top dawg, but trust me, Sony is not stupid. MS isnt Sega or even Nintendo, and the Xbox had been gaining momentum ever since its release, all things Sony were very aware of. People are quick to forget that the biggest gaming platform is...PC. Which of course runs on Windows, which is MS.

Had Sony released a cheaper system, they may have done better, but Im not entirely sure they could have done much to actually stop MS, or Nintendo. MS has a lot of money and talent invested in this whole thing, and they still would have done extremely well regardless of the PS3.

People are quick to say that the 360 is Gears and Halo...well guess what? That means the 360 was poised to do well no matter what the PS3 was planning on. For all of the talk of the HUGE Sony titles, none are nearly as big as Halo, save for GT, and thats not exactly a mascot title or system-seller. I will laugh to myself when ODST drops and kills everything in the market. Do you honestly think Sony's exclusives will outsell GTA and Halo in 2009?

I dont even think any of PS3's exclusives will outsell RE5 on 360 for that matter...unless maybe GT5 drops. But if Sony can get their system down to $300 soon without going too much in the red, they may have a chance. But its gonna have to be soon.

[man0fsteel]

when the Sega Genesis went against the SNES, Nintendo was BEATING Sega

when the 3DO, CDI, SATURN,N64,& PS1 came out, Sony was BEATING them all

When the Dreamcast first went Head to Head against the PS3
Sega was BEATING Sony.

When the Dreamcast was discontinued after the PS3 gained massive popularity with MGS2, Sony BEAT Sega

... its an absolute mistake to claim a victory before everything is said and done.

[BrianC6234]

Wow, so this generation is already over? Will the Xbox 720 and PS4 be out this summer? I hope so or it will be pretty boring around he with no new games.

[shizzle]

I think Launching first is the sole reason M$ is in nd place. Had they taken there time and make sure the RROD didn’t occur, probably they would’ve been where Nintendo is or even better because the 360 is a very good machine. But the RROD saga dent a very hefty blow to M$ image. And with the revise board as well price reduction they’ve been able to maintain their hold of the middle man this generation. The question is, for how long ?.

[Mr_Luke]

"Getting To Market First Helped MS Beat Sony This Generation"?
I didn't know this gen was over. Wow, a really short and ugly gen then, i was expecting much more.

[654321]

That is redicolus!! MS have'nt beaten Sony, and neither of them will in the near future... maybe it'll be possible to say which console won at the end of 2009, or later.. But saying this now is just WRONG!!