Tears of the Kingdom absolutely needs multiplayer

With the sheer amount of creation going on, and a vast world to explore, surely this is a world to be enjoyed with friends

[Tal169]

Personally, I think these 'Gundam' things could be a lot of fun. Not so much battles, rather just using them to explore the world.

[Flawlessmic]

It absolutely does not need multilayer!!

Yeesh these people wanna ruin everything that sacred.

[Tal169]

Surely co-op would be absolutely incredible in this game

[Flawlessmic]

No thanks, plenty of multi co op games out there for people to play, that's were games are heading, leave the classics alone, I am having a ball exploring hyrule all by myself and find all its secrets by myself.

[senorfartcushion]

This is every half-assed PC game made solely to be streamed on Twitch and nothing else.

They’re not even games. They’re stream-bait.

[adamwparker]

Go play Genshin Impact if you want multiplayer, lol

[Jin_Sakai]

How would Multiplayer ruin your single player experience?

[Flawlessmic]

Your assuming they don't make certain changes for multilayer, or whether the game would be same with multiplayer.

No thank you, there's enough crappy co op/ live service games for you people, don't need or want that any near zelda or any other great single player games.

Go play red fall or something lol

[JEECE]

He is assuming that when people say "add multiplayer," that they don't just mean keeping the game exactly the same otherwise but allowing a second player to drop in your game. He assumes "multiplayer" automatically entails live service elements/progression systems/microtransactions, etc.

So in other words he isn't actually addressing the hypothetical that people actually want, he's intentionally misinterpreting what people are asking for and criticizing that.

[VincentVanBro]

@JEECE incorrect, sorry. He's looking at games that have included or attempted to include multiplayer in the past, and how they tried to balance somewhat clashing goals of supporting both single and multi player gameplay without sacrificing the quality of either. In the end, a single player game produced entirely with a focus on and budget for single-player gameplay design is always going to be a better single-player game than that same game with a % of its budget and production dedicated to multiplayer design, netcode, etc. Does that make sense?

[Vanfernal]

Multiplayer would be optional... It wouldn't affect the way you prefer to play at all...

[-Foxtrot]

Just because something is optional means jack shit when it's all about actual development

I bet you any money that some of the new stuff in this game would not be in it, but kept for DLC because they would have been too busy trying to figure about co-op during the main development run.

Adding co-op, especially to a big world, is not an easy task, it changes everything.

[Vanfernal]

@Foxtrot

You're talking in hypotheticals. All I'm saying and this is in general, not specific to TOTK is that if there was a multiplayer mode, it doesn't affect the single player experience. But is an option for those who like it. Now let's talk hypotheticals. If they added a MP mode as dlc how would that ruin the "sacredness" of the game and the single player experience. Hint: it wouldn't.

[VincentVanBro]

In the end, a single player game produced entirely with a focus on and budget for single-player gameplay design is always going to be a better single-player game than that same game with a % of its budget and production dedicated to multiplayer design, netcode, etc. Does that make sense?

[Vanfernal]

@Count-Zero No one is debating that lol. And the game is already published. The article is saying "it'd be cool if there was multiplayer in this game". Then people for some reason are debating that if they allocated a percentage of the budget of TOTK to mp... It would harm the single player experience... In the past. Let me reiterate. The game is out. It's playable. People are playing it right now. A multiplayer mode like this article is discussing would not take away absolutely anything from that and people not interested in playing it wouldn't be affected at all. No one is arguing that it should've been designed with multiplayer in mind to begin with.

Tldr. The article is saying it'd be cool to have mp. Somehow that would ruin the single player experience for people who would not even partake in this mode.

[Knushwood Butt]

This article absolutely needs pinning!

[Tal169]

YOU GOT IT!

[porkChop]

It doesn't need multiplayer. I could understand if you wanted co-op to explore the world with your friends but PVP doesn't suit the game.

[Tal169]

Yeah, the Gundam stuff I'm not a fan of lol But the co-op stuff would be amazing. Maybe some sort of PVE battle arena could work?

[VincentVanBro]

Nah no thanks. I'm glad they focused their entire development budget on single-player features.

[LordoftheCritics]

Yup

[Number1TailzFan]

Switch would struggle even more with that.

[Tal169]

That is a fair point!

[Armyofdarkness]

No

[GoodGuy09]

Nah.

[senorfartcushion]

Yes we absolutely need a game that looks, runs and plays worse don’t we (!)

[Tal169]

AGREED!

[darkrider]

The engine can't handle that...

[Duke19]

N4G: “Singleplayer games are awesome, MP is so overrated!”

Also N4G whenever a good SP game comes out: “Why doesn’t this game have MP?!”

[Tal169]

Look I just like both, OK

[King_Noctis]

There is a time and a place for MP. You can’t just shoehorn it into every game and expect it to work. While I love the idea of having MP in this game, the hardware can’t handle it. It can barely play SP without dipping to below 30fps at times.

Plus, I would rather they focus more on single player expansions like they did for BOTW. Can you imagine more items or abilities to play with in the expansion? It would be insane for the people who love to build cool stuff.

[jznrpg]

F that.
We have seen MS try to put MP into single player games and it doesn’t turn out well.

Arkane made SP and then made Redfall.

Fable was co-op in 3 and it sucked and then they tried MP online Fable and it got canceled.

Scalebound should have been single player but they tried 4 player co-op and it got canceled.

You can have side modes maybe but I’d rather they focus on more SP content.

Plenty of multiplayer games out there leave SP games alone.

[Flawlessmic]

Thank you, finally someone else!!

[Tal169]

Fair point, but I think Zelda's mechanics are different to those games. Is it a fair comparison?

[thesoftware730]

Wtf does this have to do with MS?

You just went on a tangent about MS.

Nintendo is master at their craft, your comment doesn't relate. They did a great job with the Co-op 2d Zelda games, 4 swords & Phantom Hourglass, and even Hyrule Warriors are fun.

I'm not saying this game needs MP, but your examples and sure stance that it would ruin it is silly. WTF does MS have to do with Nintendo?

And then you listed a game that was never even released. Then you talked about Fable 3 while ignoring that 2 was Co-op and a great game, so was 3!, 3 is sitting at 80% on MC....your example might as well be a troll cause it was so dumb.

[VincentVanBro]

Perfect examples, and you can include Cyberpunk as well. The multiplayer was scrapped in the end, but all of the development time and budget that went into the feature was still lost. Ideally all of that time and money would have gone to the single-player experience.

[lellkay]

While the game is already a huge success, I do feel that the creation element with friends could truly elevate it even higher.

I'm a singleplayer guy, but this is one of the few occasions where I agree that a multiplayer element would be a huge benefit.

[Tal169]

Yep, exactly. The world and the mechanics are absolutely built for this

[bangoskank]

No.

[Flakegriffin]

No it doesn’t.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

What?!? Why???

[Tal169]

I think it could be a lot of fun... monster hunter works so well. Why wouldn't this?

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

Because this is Zelda not Monster hunter. This game is not about hunting monsters. Zelda definitely does not need any form of MP. The game is already pretty simple when it comes to combat and having a partner would just make the combat laughable. I see zero reason to have multiplayer.

[anast]

This is a dumb article. I mean it, it's dumb. If anything a couch co-op would be okay, but live servicing a game is just a sh%& way to hustle the fans.

[metalgod88]

Man, the game is nearly perfect as is. If the team spent their time working on multiplayer, we wouldn't get such a stellar single player experience. Just sayin'.

[merlox]

No it doesn't. What it needs is a better frame rate so the game isn't jittery when you play. It's so jittery that the game is unplayable. The game is boring and more barren than Breath of the wild. The graphics are a step back from BOTW. People need to stop giving Nintendo passing grades on everything. Also not worth the $70 they are charging for it.

[JEECE]

Framerate doesn't matter on Nintendo games.

[Smellsforfree]

Nah.

[Chocoburger]

Breath of the Wild had an online multiplayer mod, Tears of the Kingdom will get one as well, so your dreams will eventually become a reality. But Nintendo may try to shut it down, because of course they would.

https://www.ign.com/article...

[syrupywaffles]

It's rare that I feel the urge to comment on articles, but every now and then something as dumb as this comes along and I can't stop myself. No. It absolutely does not need multiplayer. At all. Stop this. Stop trying to shoe horn multiplayer and co-op into single player games, especially ones as sacred and incredible as Zelda. That is all. The end.

[MehmetAlperTR]

F....k your MP ideas... We are hardcore gamer and we want SP games.

[Angyobangyo]

No it doesn’t.

[Soulsborne]

Or, you can play the hundreds of multiplayer games available.

[Dandalandan117]

NO!

[Demetrius]

No it doesn’t multiplayer doesn’t add much most times just the same old objectives smh that get dull af keep givin me single player driven games with some co-op that’s good enough

[JokerBoy129]

No.

[Inverno]

I've always wanted a game like 4 Swords but where you play as the different races in a Hyrule adventure where Link hasn't been reincarnated yet. Unfortunately with the current state of multiplayer games I wouldn't trust even Ninty to not mess it up.

[Samonuske]

Completely ignoring the logistical side of adding a coop mode. Even something as simple as drop in drop out would create such a load on the system with the world having to interact with a whole separate player.

[gleepot]

No thanks

[Ethereal]

Nope.

[Aelderbrand]

I feel I can debunk this entire article in a single word: 'nope'