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Achievements vs Trophies

by SeeDsTOHR:

"As an RPG enthusiast am I attracted to the leveling up aspect of Trophies? I do like the tiered Trophies with bronze, silver, gold, and platinum. I can tell you that a 10g Achievement has the same felling of a bronze Trophy, and a Platinum Trophy had the same feeling of scoring a complete 1000g. I do not have a comparison for gold or silver because there really is not any as a developers can assign any point value to any Achievement. I know what I am getting when I unlock a Trophy".

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Hot_tea5612d ago

..I like the trophy's, gives games extra legs.
What do achievements look like?

Halochampian5611d ago

http://n4g.com/up/1238.aspx

down there at the bottom, where it says 19,119.

Achievements are better just because they are in EVERY single 360 game to date, even the burger king games.

Itrguy0015611d ago

well trophies are mandatory now so expect to see trophies in every game that comes out on the PS3

Godmars2905611d ago

Yes, as a grown man, I just love playing Barbie's Dream Challenge for the achievement points that show up on my general manly score.

If they were showing up as trophies, I'd be too shamed...

Graphics Whore5611d ago (Edited 5611d ago )

Implementation doesn't beat execution, Trophies are just better executed.

Visual representation of the difficulty, divided into categories and then progression for your experience stature.

Upon successful completion of a game (100%) you gain a platinum trophy which stands out a lot more than 25 gamer points ... lol.

Microsoft got the ball rolling, but now Sony has turned the ball into a wheel, who knows how much better it could get.

Homicide5611d ago

I like trophies more. Achievements/Gamer Score is just a number that keeps on growing =/ At least with trophies, they make it more interesting by that level up system. The bad thing is that not every game has trophies.

Halochampian5611d ago

if ms does something like that, its called being "unoriginal." Take avatars for example. They took the so called idea from miis and made it better yet sony fanboys bash them for it.

Achievements and trophies are the same, except trophies are for people who actually care enough to look at them.

@itrguy

but that doesnt mean you can go back to every PS3 game and get achievements? No. They needed sooner.

artzm5611d ago

@Homicide

"I like trophies more. Achievements/Gamer Score is just a number that keeps on growing =/ At least with trophies, they make it more interesting by that level up system. The bad thing is that not every game has trophies."

So Gamerscore is dumb because it's a number that just keeps growing but Trophies are cool because they are also a number that just keeps growing?

I agree with most people that MS could use the level thing, by only use games with 1000/1000 Gamerscore to determine the level. Giving something to those people who do "complete" games.

Shepherd 2145611d ago

trophies are not at all better than achievements. Yea, you could go aound beating the kiddie games for 1000g, but if your a freak who really cares about that, you have the ability to compare games with everyone on Xbox Live. So like i said, if you see a guy with 50k gamerscore and your freaking out about whether he got that high score by beating games like Surf's Up and Kung Fu Panda, feel free to look at every game he's played, and deduct all the kiddie games from his score so you'll know how much he's really earned. Dont wanna go through all that trouble huh? well, you should, because you cared enough to complain about it in the first place.

i just like the point system better, i like seeing my score grow because i know i play the hardcore games like Mass Effect, Halo, Left 4 Dead, Gears of War, Fallout, etc. and i know that i, myself, earned all my points and thats all that matters to me. i dont care about other people's scores really.

thereapersson5611d ago (Edited 5611d ago )

You can compare games on the PS3 as well. Just click on any user name and any games you have will show up next to any games that they have. If you have the same game, you can see which trophies you have that they don't and vice-versa.

The entire game list that they have played will appear, and you can look at any trophies they have earned in those games.

The total "score" appears as a level. You can view your level in comparison to other peoples' levels, and see where you can improve your ranking. What you are talking about is really the same thing.

Shepherd 2145610d ago

i never said you couldnt do it on the PS3 either. You have the ability to view a full list of peoples games on both Xbox Live and PSN, the pont i was trying to make is why should you even care about other peopls games? And even if you do care, you can view all of peoples games and come to your own conclusions. This whole article is pointless.

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THC CELL5612d ago

trophies are better

and some damn hard ones to get out there

NegativeCreepWA5611d ago (Edited 5611d ago )

Yeah, how are they better?

I fail to see any difference other than the name and the number that represents them. I have 20k plus gamer-score and a level 5 trophy score. So I think i've got enough of both to know if there's a difference between the two. The only reason I like getting trophies more now is because I have so few trophies compared to achievement's.

Faztkiller5612d ago

Trophy system is better imo the leveling is addicting i did buy multiplatform games on 360 Because of achievements but now i buy them on the ps3 because i prefer trophies now

but both add replay value to the game

ravinshield5611d ago

trophies are just lame,stupid,weird, and a cheap copy of what achievements are.

Graphics Whore5611d ago

Haha, if you think they're just a copy or a ploy than your being ignorant, pick up a PS3 game and get a trophy.

Fishy Fingers5612d ago

Technically yeah, and personally neither bother me to much, but I prefer the way the PS3 displays them, showing how many of each achievement/trophy level (bronze, silver, gold, plat) you've acquired and the Rank is easier on the eye than an overall score (IMO).

InMyOpinion5612d ago (Edited 5612d ago )

One thing I like about achievements is that they are included in ALL 360 games from start and you never have to wait for games to get trophy patches as with PS3 games. Would be nice if they were retroactive but unfortunately that's not the case.

Gray25612d ago

Good point, but luckily its january 2009 so that means that all ps3 games coming out will have trophies included in them :)

BlackRaven855611d ago

Nope. It's all the newer games that will have trophies in 2009 and onward, not all of the games that's ever been on the PS3. Sony said it themselves. But more to the point, to me there are the same thing, same concept. Until I find something that makes the other better I stand by my word.

UNCyrus5611d ago

good god... Jenzo said something I didn't disagree with

Graphics Whore5611d ago

"Would be nice if they were retroactive but unfortunately that's not the case."

There's one big huge reason why they're not.

poopsack5611d ago

Thats what he just said...

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15 Amazing PS3 Facts You Probably Don’t Know

GB: "With this feature, we will be taking a look at 15 of the most interesting facts about the PS3."

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darthv7216h ago

I knew all of those things. I'll add one that many dont know (if you are a hardware person you do). you CAN actually swap bluray drives between systems. The drives themselves are interchangeable but the board that interfaces is not. So anyone who has a dead optical drive can just get a replacement and swap the interface board and be back to reading discs in no time. I've had to do this myself on both a 20gb B01 as well as a 40gb L01 unit.

you can also replace the spinning hdd with an SSD for improved (not life changing) performance as well as quieter and cooler system reliability. The physical spinning drives draw more current and generate heat as a result. Using an SSD means no moving parts and thus will have less current draw and reduced fan noise from not having to spin as much as usual to offset any heat generated by the spinning hdd.

Skuletor9h ago

Took my PS3 out the other week and plugged it in, it has the Red Light of Death. RIP

Knightofelemia7h ago

Still one of my favorite Playstations next to the Playstations that came before it and after it.

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander197220h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing6919h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander197218h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto18h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander197218h ago(Edited 18h ago)

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto18h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander197217h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff218315h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto14h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander197211h ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv7218h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh16h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander197216h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow110h ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv7210h ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor20h ago(Edited 19h ago)

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix7619h ago(Edited 19h ago)

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand12519h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC18h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander197218h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC17h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia14h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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