Starfield showcase may be a while as Bethesda is still “sorting stuff”

The Starfield showcase was expected soon, but Fallout and Skyrim dev Bethesda is still “sorting stuff,” so we may have to wait for Starfield release date news.

[Thundercat77]

Behtestha: yes we have lot of work to do yet and the Playstation version is taking us a lot of time.
OH wait there is no Playstation version this time we can't blame them anymore.

[-Foxtrot]

Where’s the lie though

It’ll be…

“Since we had to cut the PS version in early development it meant we were super behind unfortunately”

[JackBNimble]

That's the dumbest fake excuse I've ever heard. Besides that, they are talking about the showcase, not another delay for the game itself.

Although if the game does need more time, then they should delay it rather then releasing a buggy mess.

[Lifexline]

In before all the PlayStation fanboys come in oh wait nevermind.

Bethesda needs to take their time no one is worried except PlayStation fans. Xbox fans want them to Take all the time they need to get it right we have plenty to play with right now.

[DarXyde]

"Xbox fans want them to Take all the time they need to get it right"

No, they don't.
Their whole tagline last generation against PlayStation was "Greatness Delayed" as a spin on "Greatness Awaits". PlayStation gamers are used to waiting and we understand it's better to wait for it until it's ready. PlayStation games get delayed all the time.

Notice, at the time of this comment, none of the above comments are treating the delay as a problem. It's just people saying that you can't use PlayStation as a scapegoat.

Behave yourself.

[Profchaos]

Xbox fans want to break the drought of games even Phil Spencer wants it to break the drought

[Lifexline]

@dark come on just look at this story it’s mostly PlayStation fanboys talking crap like always. If you notice most Xbox fans don’t mind as long as it’s great. So that’s a lie that Xbox fans are not patient.

We have gotten so many games already I have plenty to play so I’m in no rush for this game plus we have so many coming out very soon. We have had many games compared to the switch and the PlayStation this year so far which never happens. There is plenty to play especially if you have game pass.

People need to stop putting pressure on developers and learn to play something else or do something else. They put so much pressure on them that’s why there is crunch time for developers or games released that are full of bugs.

[DarXyde]

Lifeline,

A few points:

"If you notice most Xbox fans don’t mind as long as it’s great. So that’s a lie that Xbox fans are not patient."

You must have missed my point. I'm saying that this is, apparently a new attitude (or they're being hypocrites) because that was definitely not the thought process they've been vocal about for YEARS. I should add, I did not say they were "not patient". I'd say they're hypocrites, and me saying "No, they don't" is intended to highlight that they're okay with it now.

"We have gotten so many games already I have plenty to play so I’m in no rush for this game plus we have so many coming out very soon. We have had many games compared to the switch and the PlayStation this year so far which never happens. There is plenty to play especially if you have game pass."

Umm, I don't know about that. There's been the early years of gen 7 and the whole "play the greatest lineup in Xbox history" holiday thing. Those were substantial periods for Xbox that shine in their favor. For me, I really don't care about having "plenty to play". If I was younger, I'd agree with you more. Options are great, but I have to reel it in and don't have much time personally. Took me most of last year just to get through Horizon and Elden Ring. More of a quality over quantity guy myself, but of course that is partly subjective.

"People need to stop putting pressure on developers and learn to play something else or do something else. They put so much pressure on them that’s why there is crunch time for developers or games released that are full of bugs."

We are 100% in agreement here. It is another reason I cannot stand live service games: they can release garbage and get terrible to middling reviews at best and scathing consumer feedback... But over time, they can give it a second life. I sense that The Last of Us multiplayer will in fact be live service, but I seriously appreciate the desire to make it amazing at the first go around.

Yes, we need to be more understanding of the labor involved and I have always felt that way. I might be one of the few people who does not care much about Xbox that is NOT calling for heads to roll at 343i.

[Lifexline]

@dark I actually agree with everything you said I’ve personally have always been patient I’m an Xbox gamer and like you I don’t have all the time in the world It took me almost a month just to finish psyconauts 2. That’s why i said there is plenty to play people here act like they don’t have jobs or go to school or a social life like they want 10 games in a month for me one game a month is way then enough. So I agree with everything you said.

[ModsDoBetter]

Lifexline isn’t really wrong in their statement that these articles always seem to attract more PS Fanboys telling people what Xbox players actually want. That’s a hard fact and looking at the comment section on any Xbox related article on this website will show the usual suspects.

There is also the issue of the double standard.

Sony delays: “it’s good, I’d rather have a polished game at launch than a rushed game”

Xbox delays: I don’t even need to say anything.

That being said, the team at Xbox DO need to start doing something as there has been a severe lack of exclusives despite promises and flexing of studios. GamePass value only gets them so far, they need games.

The scope of Bethesda games is typically massive & we cannot pretend to know the ins and outs of development cycles and how different companies managed development throughout Covid; however, the constant announcement of a release date or release window that isn’t met time and time again is only damaging any sense of hype in the game or faith in Bethesda under Microsoft.

Nobody disputes the fact that Xbox NEEDS more games. They do.

[Crows90]

How about long time Bethesda fans. Are they allowed to be worried? If you're not worried about a Bethesda game releasing with every bug in the book then you're not a Bethesda fan. Face it. Xbox fans are just happy that now they've got some type of exclusive even though it was completely awful how they went about it. For Xbox fans it doesn't seem to be about quality or new IP but about what games they can take away from other platforms. When I praise Sony's efforts I'm not praising third party exclusives that were kept off other platforms. I'm praising their first party IP that they helped create and grow to be successful. To me there's no difference between paying for a third party IP to be permanently exclusive versus buying the developer to make that IP exclusive. As I've said Microsoft went IP hunting.

[The Wood]

'Nobody disputes the fact that Xbox NEEDS more games. They do.'

Booooiii I don't know what blinkers you've been wearing but they are definitely efficient a eff

[Obscure_Observer]

"OH wait there is no Playstation version this time we can't blame them anymore."

Yeah, you can blame on Microsoft´s QA department. XD

I want Bethesda to take their time and deliver the best possible experience for Starfield and, I´m glad Phil is giving Todd Howard all the time he needs to deliver an Epic game and a powerful new IP for Xbox.

[Crows90]

Not sure if Phil has anything to do with delays of starfield. Phil's got no idea what a good game looks like. It was about to release Halo when it was going to release way back when

[ChiefofLoliPolice]

It's going to be another Halo Infinite. But we will see. Either way I'm on PC so if Starfield is good I'll give it a shot.

[jznrpg]

There goes 10 million copies sold for them . Not many will buy it on Xbox so they have to hope PC sells more than they ever have

[Chevalier]

Well if Skyrim sold 30 million across 3 generations and 9 consoles really makes you wonder what this game would have sold. Maybe they get lucky and PC sales take off like you suggest otherwise that's a lot of lost sales.

[Obscure_Observer]

"Not many will buy it on Xbox so they have to hope PC sells more than they ever have"

No problem, there´ll be hordes of Playstation gamers that will buy Starfield and play it on their high end PC. There´s lots of them here on N4G.

[shinoff2183]

Obscure

I think your taking the word of a few sony fans and generalizing the whole base as having high end pcs, me ill be buying a series x to play it the s is a waste imo.

[ChasterMies]

I’m getting flashbacks from Mass Effect Andromeda. BioWare wasn’t ready to launch the game but EA wanted to meet their fiscal year end. EA did an internal review that predicted a Metacritic rating of 80. That was good enough for EA, and they released a buggy mess that almost killed the Mass Effect franchise. Looks like Bethesda needs more time, and Microsoft should give Bethesda more time. If that means another bad showing for Microsoft exclusives, so be it. I’m not here for Microsoft. I’m here for the games.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Bethesda at this point are just don't know how to optimize and keep things major bug free.

[badz149]

for the nth time...it's not a bug, it's a FEATURE!

[TheColbertinator]

It is not a feature, it is DLC!

[Crows90]

It's not a feature, it's a microtransaction

[ChiefofLoliPolice]

It's not a feature any longer. It's a Battle Pass with new bug fixes every new season.

[jznrpg]

They have been patching that same engine for decades . I’m surprised (also not surprised because of lack of effort ) that they have stuck with that engine . After all this time you would think they would get rid of the inherent issues of their engine and make a new one.

But as you see with their games over time they took out more than they added with stats , spells and depth so I doubt they had much desire to make something new and settled to slap patches on the old engine over and over again.

[dumahim]

Or actually upgrade the engine to resolve those issues.

[dumahim]

at this point...

[SullysCigar]

Hopefully they're sorting out the dead-eyed NPCs and sorting out a way for us to fly to and from planets. Basic stuff like that will add a lot to immersion.

[Snookies12]

Yeah, not being able to actually fly to other planets is a big negative for me personally. That's just going to kill immersion. Pretty funny that a huge team like Bethesda can't figure it out. But the small team of No Man's Sky could do it 7 years ago.

[VariantAEC]

And an even smaller 3rd party studio did it better than NMS on PS2 almost 20 years ago now.

[darkrider]

How is this possible for a game coming in the first half of 2023. It was strange it didn't appear on the latest show of Microsoft....

A game coming in a couple of months doesn't get any kind of trailer...

[Orchard]

"It was strange it didn't appear on the latest show of Microsoft...."

They specifically stated beforehand that it would not be in the show because it will have its own, longer, dedicated show.

"How is this possible for a game coming in the first half of 2023."

You mean game development isn't known for burning down the clock, day 1 patches, and crunch towards the end of development? Never 🤯. I thought all game development was rounded out a year before the game released /s.

[shinoff2183]

Honestly orchy I feel if it was coming out first half this year something would have been shown even a small tease. It's either still a bit off

Or ms doesn't wanna show it off cause they wanna keep earning that Activision media pity for as long as possible.

Personally I say take your time cause I'd like to play it in a good state

[rippermcrip]

Game development certainly is known for last minute crunch. But for them not to be able to show us anything at this point, that's a whole different story.

[Lightning77]

"It was strange it didn't appear on the latest show of Microsoft...."

Except that it's not strange at all. It was said it wouldn't appear in the direct. If they showed Starfield it would overshadow the rest of the games in the direct easily.

"A game coming in a couple of months doesn't get any kind of trailer..."

That's Redfall that's releasing in a couple months, May 2.

[darkrider]

I know they told that. But it makes no sense. Overshadow? Microsoft needs all the hype they can get!

The game is coming in the first half of 2023...

[shinoff2183]

Games releasing get new trailers all the time right before release. What are you talking about. Starfield is probably late 23

[Obscure_Observer]

"A game coming in a couple of months doesn't get any kind of trailer..."

I´m still waiting a trailer for Spiderman 2 which will be released this year. I´m also waiting for a trailer for Factions which has been in development since 2016.

[shinoff2183]

Still haven't played Spiderman one all the way. Factions eh not interested in some online bs personally.

[FlavorLav01]

Agreed, but neither were announced for a 1st half of 23’ release. A 3-4 month marketing window before release is more than enough time and exposure to ready a game for release. Starfield’s window to market it and deliver that game in the 1st half of 23’ as was promised after a big delay already is about to close completely. Not exact same situation. And when was the last game Insomniac didn’t deliver, those devs are damn near wizard level good, and especially good at hitting their targets. I don’t think fans have anything to worry about with Spider-Man2, that IP is in the best of hands.

[Obscure_Observer]

@FlavorLav01

Spiderman 2 will be Insomniac´s third Spiderman game. All 3 games released in just 5 years.

You can´t possible compare those games with a game as big and complex as Starfied.

Spiderman 2 will be an one and done 15-20 hours game.

Starfield will provide thousands of hours featuring over 100 systems with over 1,000 planets, vast and multiple open worlds, multiple endings, DLCs and expansions.

Microsoft will give Bethesda the time they need to finish it. Xbox and PC gamers wants the game to be the most polished and smooth as possible. The only crowd I see anxious (or desperate) for it to be released in a hurry and unfinished is the crowd that is not gonna play it.

[ChasterMies]

Difference is that Insomniac has a proven track record and Bethesda has the opposite.

[Mr_cheese]

Think you've conveniently skipped over all the points being made Obscure and chose to focus on game length and replay value.

The points being made were regarding the marketing campaign leading to the release, and in this case one game is due in the year 2023, the other is due in the next few months and has, according to this article, had its latest reveal pushed.

[P_Bomb]

“Spiderman 2 will be an one and done 15-20 hours game.

Starfield will provide thousands of hours…”

I don’t play anything for thousands of hours. There’s always a next game to play. That’s just me.

[Chevalier]

My guess they release Spiderman around the time Spiderverse 2 movie releases and absolutely make a killing on both. Considering the 1st game sold 33+ million which already compares to Skyrims Lifetime sales too.

[Obscure_Observer]

"Difference is that Insomniac has a proven track record and Bethesda has the opposite."

Yeah, sure. Must be the reason why Sony paid $229 Million to acquire Insomniac while Microsoft paid 7.5 Billion to acquire Bethesda. /S

@Mr_cheese

"the other is due in the next few months and has, according to this article, had its latest reveal pushed."

You got a point. And I agree with you.

BUT, let´s not fool ourselves, with the releases of Redfall on May 2 and Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom 10 days after, chances are 90% that Starfield will be postponed.

Realistically, it wouldn´t any make sense from a business perspective to release 3 big open world games in such a short time frame between it other.

I believe Forza Motorsport to be next, releasing in summer and Starfield, holydays.

@P_Bomb

Starfield is not for you. And that´s ok.

[P_Bomb]

@obscure
Oh I’m definitely playing Starfield don’t get me wrong. I beat Skyrim. I just won’t make a year of it.

[Mr_cheese]

Agree with you completely Obscure, Starfield is in for a delay and will surely be announced in the coming weeks.

[Lightning77]

"Overshadow? Microsoft needs all the hype they can get!"

Again And Overshadow Redfall and Forza? Starfield has enough hype what you on about?

[GotGame818]

Microsoft said the game needs its own show. It will be sooner than later.

[MrDead]

They better hope this sells well on PC as MS has banned it's sale on what was Bethesda's biggest revenue maker in the console market. This and every future Bethesda title is going to need the PC crowd to make up the shortfall.

[crazyCoconuts]

MS said in one of their filings that their models show that it doesn't make financial sense to NOT release these games on PS, yet here we are.
I don't like their anti-competitive approach to buying all the established players, but I don't think many would argue that you NEED some good exclusives to compete with Sony. Not having exclusives is a sure fire way to fail, and I don't expect them to just roll over. They're going all in one way or another

[shinoff2183]

But why weren't there studios making more or something. It's not like ms had 5 studios they are just as loaded. Hire more talent. Loaded there(money). They didn't have to buy multiplatform publishers. I'm still gonna play starfield and fallout no matter though

[crazyCoconuts]

I think because it's hard to really succeed. MS never really figured out how to drive their studios to be great, so they're doing what they do best I guess

[Lightning77]

"MS said in one of their filings that their models show that it doesn't make financial sense to NOT release these games on PS"

You mean the filings for The ABK Call Of Duty rights? What does Cod have to so do with Bethesda? They said BETHESDA games will be exclusive moving forward.

Explain to me what you're taking about?

[Lightning77]

"How many games Sony made a deal with Bethesda before Microsoft wrote the check...."

Deathloop and Ghost Wire. They tried making Starfield timed exclusive also what's your point? Sony aggressively makes 3rd party AAA deals all the time. Forspoken, Final Fantasy 16. If MS never wrote the check Deathloop and Ghost wire would still be on PS till this very day. Wasn't Kena supposed to be timed? Only on PS still. The only timed game that's was actually timed was Sifu.

[crazyCoconuts]

@lightening no they were talking about Bethesda. The document surfaced because of Activision but it was in relation to Bethesda. The point was, why do we expect MS to stick to their word now when they didn't with Bethesda

[shinoff2183]

Lightning77

Ms does 3rd party deals to wtf guys come on

mass effect, ninja gaiden, gta 4 dlc, tales of vespiria wasnt allowed to release in the u.s. on ps3, Bioshock, Oblivion, Lost Planet, Star Ocean IV, eternal sonato, Deadly Promotion, enchanted arms, The Ascent, Rise of the Tomb Raider, blue dragon, lost odyssey, last remnant, Infinite Undiscovery, etc so stop the bs like sonys the only one making 3rd party deals. Ill add timed excusive these days isnt bad at all imo. Most of the time id be down with it, you know when the game comes out itll be patched up pretty good and most of the time you get the dlc to boot. if starfield was coming to ps5 1 year from now id be fing ecstatic, fallout to

[Orchard]

"They better hope this sells well on PC as MS has banned it's sale on what was Bethesda's biggest revenue maker in the console market."

Why do they have to hope that? That doesn't appear to be a bar/metric that Microsoft has set for them or the game.

[SierraGuy]

How long do you think Satya will allow this circus to go on?

Xbox starting to look like Atari.

[Lightning77]

It was only during the 8th gen PS4 and X1 the PS4 sold the most. The games sold undoubtedly better on 360. Plus the Elder scrolls Morrowind was only on Xbox and PC.

Bethesda first console was Xbox. They provided the tools and things they needed for the platform for Morrowind.

Say what you will about the ABK stuff in fact I don't want the ABK stuff to go. Through because it doesn't make much sense to me. But Bethesda makes a whole lot of sense. I stand by that no matter how many times you use the "ban" excuse the history is there no matter how bad you want to erase that.

[darkrider]

They really don't have any connection with sony... Their biggest seller in consoles, with deals after deals made. Just look at this Gen. How many games Sony made a deal with Bethesda before Microsoft wrote the check....

[Orchard]

@darkrider "How many games Sony made a deal with Bethesda before Microsoft wrote the check...."

That's how business works. Nothing stopped Sony cutting a check as they have done to acquire many other developers.

[shinoff2183]

Bethesda got a pretty late start on ps3 compared to ms though

[Obscure_Observer]

"They better hope this sells well on PC as MS has banned it's sale on what was Bethesda's biggest revenue maker in the console market."

Lol. It´s the most wishlisted game on the Steam. Starfied will be fine among Xbox, PC and XCloud gamers via mobile and TV.

The moment Microsoft acquired ZeniMax Media, I´d warned some PS diehard fans on N4G, that Bethesda would no longer need Sony´s a$$ around. They though Xbox would turn into some kind of third party publisher for Playstation to get their money back. Lol

And here we are.

[shinoff2183]

Obscure its still pretty early. It's a long game if that's how it goes down in the end. I think alot of sh is resting until the Activision sh finishes.

[MrDead]

Do you think that Steam, the only platform that Starfield is going to make money on outside of it's gamepass cut (which MS said is cannibalising game sales) will make a good return on the investment? It's been developed as a multiplatform title that was meant to be released on multiple systems, now it's only getting a full price release on one.

[GoodGuy09]

Yup. Definitely delayed another year or terribly bug filled launch lol.

[Orchard]

Take your time with the showcase and the game, no need to rush. Masterpieces take time.

[bleedsoe9mm]

absolutely take the time to make it perfect

[loveless88]

Yeah masterpieces do take time....(cough cough Fallout 76).

[Hofstaderman]

It’s the ray tracing, space has lots of rays.

[dumahim]

@honkler32

And who threw that dev team under the bus?

"It's claimed that while Bethesda's Todd Howard was technically in charge of the project, he spent most of his time working on Starfield, while design director Emil Pagliarulo "didn't seem to want to be involved with the product at all. He didn’t want to have any contact with it... or read anything that we put in front of him.""

"employees regularly racking up between 10 to 16 hours of work a day. Multiple sources told Kotaku that crunch on Fallout 76 was mandatory, and it's said that Rob Gray, ZeniMax's director of QA, continually deflected or denied crunch was happening in his department when the issue was raised by employees."

" It's claimed "almost none" of Bethesda's designers wanted the game to launch without NPCs, but executive producer Howard refused to budge on the issue up to release.

Senior management reportedly also chose to ignore designers' concerns around other issues during development, including griefing, multiplayer stability, and quest checkpointing."

Different dev team, same shitty company in control.

Also I found interesting:
"Ultimately, the turmoil of Fallout 76's development - which reportedly required Bethesda to pull staff from Starfield and Arkane Studios' Redfall to complete, two games that have since been delayed - is said to have driven an exodus of senior developers who had worked on some of Bethesda's biggest titles, including the likes of Fallout 3 and Skyrim.

As to whether Bethesda senior management has learned any lessons from the development of Fallout 76, Kotaku's sources remained cynical. "It would be great if something like [Activision Blizzard worker advocacy group] A Better ABK existed for Bethesda," one person said, "but everyone is terrified... because [Bethesda] HR is super cutthroat". And things reportedly haven't improved under Microsoft, which continues to emphasise a "hands-off" policy when dealing with its studio acquisitions."
That sound like a recipe for a wonderful game...

[SierraGuy]

There's a lot to be fixed in the game and they know it.

Crackdown 3....2.0

[Sonic1881]

Hopefully they fix the shooting mechanic

[Chance_of_Raine]

Imminent delay. Just announce the delay already. We all know it's coming.

[Dandalandan117]

They better make sure that this'll be a masterpiece and the most polished Bethesda game ever released.
The hype surrounding this game is just too much and it's going to be extremely disappointing if this turns out to be nothing more than Fallout in space.

[Hofstaderman]

You used “polished” and Bethesda right next to one another lol.

[Dandalandan117]

And that's exactly my point right there 😉

[Demetrius]

Smh

[masterfox]

I bet 2025 ...but for maybe an announcement for a released date, Im actually not kidding here btw.

[Orchard]

If not kidding, you must be extremely delusional lol, 2025.

Got a good laugh out of this one though, so thanks.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

So you're saying this game does not have "delay written all over it"???

[DickyD1226]

@Outside_ofthe_Box

I am starting to wonder if it will be pushed to 2024. Not hoping for it but the lack of seeing the game has me worried.

[Lightning77]

It's clear they don't have a firm release date internally at Bethesda yet. If they did then a showcase would indeed be coming sooner rather than later.

[Godmars290]

Damnit, don't even want to comment, but if Behtestha fans only accept their excuses, and yes regardless of complaining about it now you'll forgive and buy the game, this is only going to keep happening.

[dumahim]

Been saying that for a while. So many people love shitting on Bethesda these last few years with all their mistakes. A new game is coming out? BLIND FANATASISM! Best game ever incoming! It's going to be awesome!
Know why games keep shipping in horrible states? People have a short memory and accept what they put out.

[Destiny1080]

adding a 60 fps mode, takes time

[jznrpg]

60 Target FPS

[SpacedDuck]

Game is nowhere near ready. Spring 2024 unless Microsoft wants another flop to follow Halo. Any gameplay I've seen which I would assume is the best of the best for your trailers has looked janky and awful.

[Elda]

Imo a release date for late this year or 2024.

[Hofstaderman]

The code name for the development of this title is Minefield. Todd must be aware this game is under a magnifying glass even before it’s release.

[kungfuian]

Rename it Star Field Troopers and then all the bugs can be a feature

[jznrpg]

5$ DLC per bug

[dumahim]

Bug armor DLC. Calling it.

[S2Killinit]

Well by the look of the game its not even close to being done because it looks terrible as of what they showed.

[nmbr1esq]

At this point, does anyone need a deep dive showcase, or are they just going to play it day one on gamepass regardless?? I'd suggest just focus on getting the game out and don't spoil the surprise in a reveal. Instead, put up some answers in the Faqs to some questions. Also, if BethesdaTodd is delaying the game kindly take down or update the Help page showing 1st half. By them keeping it up on the website it's fueling all the rumors and speculations, and when those are proven incorrect, it's causing people to think there is something horribly wrong, and expecting another FO76.

[DrDoomer]

Bruh... why do the characters look like they're still on the original xbox?

[jznrpg]

That picture is funny with those lifeless eyes . Not that Bethesda has ever been good with faces and eyes but it is 2023 and it is very possible to make them look a LOT better than that .
A lot is riding on this game so maybe MS isn’t comfortable releasing the game with usual game crashing bugs , save file bugs , fall through the world bugs , get stuck in wall bugs , and the best (or worst) physics bugs with bodies flopping around all over the place that Bethesda games generally have in the first year and are waiting to the last minute possible .

[talocaca]

I think at this point, most people expect this game to be buggy as hell for months if not years after release.

[GotGame818]

So many of you loved Bethesda, until Microsoft bought the studios! It's laughable! Buy a PC! Also, I hope the EA acquisition goes through! Yes Sony put out some amazing games last year, but the anger is funny! Get over it! I even enjoy my Switch!

[shinoff2183]

I liked some of Bethesda games. Fallout mainly and evenly within. I never got into skyrim or dishonored. So yes I'll buy and Xbox. No issue.

[dumahim]

Know what else has been laughable? Bethesda has been a shitty company since before they were bought out, have progressively gotten worse ass the years go on and people ripped them for the whole time. But now all you see is people have an issue with them because it's a MS studio now? Get real.

[VivaLaManual]

Look at how awful that character model looks in that picture. Is this 2008?

[Abear21]

The wait will be worth it, those who think they are coming out any earlier than holiday this year are smoking some cheap shit. We haven’t seen much means still a ways away.

[StarkR3ality]

This game better come out with minimal bugs or it's game over for Bethesda as a studio. Got great studios under them, but BGS needs to get this right.

[Mr_cheese]

I'm really looking forward to seeing what they show for this game.

While I agree with the general consensus that Bethesda do release buggy games, I've had a blast with them having joined the fandom at morrowind on PC.

I only own one console which is a playstation and due to money, it would take a hell of a lot for me to invest in a second console along with the monthly subs etc. So I'm personally gutted about the acquisition here.

[Aggy]

I hope they sort it all soon.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

1) Showcases take time and resources away from the game itself, so be patient.

2) Bethesda, you unfortunately are releasing the first exclusive for the XsX 2.5 years into its lifecycle, and after a 10+ year drought for Xbox, so don’t expect much patience or tolerance for your monumental project, unfortunately.

Don’t take M$’ drought out on Bethesda; it’s not their fault, of their responsibility to fix with a single game.

[Rols]

This game was supposed to release last year and they still can’t get a preview or video slice cobbled together. I think it will be a cyberpunk 2077 level of disappointment.

[anast]

This is funny.

[autobotdan]

I can wait a little bit longer

[adaminoregon]

Thi game wont be out until its christmas shopping time. 11/11/23.

[PhillyDillyDee]

My bet is that they want it to be pretty much ready to launch before the showcase. Bethesda has a history of announcing or showing games then launching them very soon after.