Respawn Explains Why Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Isn't on PS4, Xbox One

Respawn dev and Star Wars Jedi: Survivor game director Stig Asmussen explains why the game won't be available on last-gen (PS4, Xbox One).

[Jin_Sakai]

All I can say is good!

[P_Bomb]

Indeed. It truly is time to move on up.

[excaliburps]

Yep. Finally. With the PS5/XSX now being available in stores, most devs should just leave last-gen behind since we know it limits the overall experience for everyone.

[Shane Kim]

Not only that, the attach rate of last gen consoles are really low. I understand it's free money, but lets move on.

[jznrpg]

The problem with Xbox is they made the Series S which is basically a last gen machine like the PS4Pro or Xbox One X (that’s what it was called right ?stupid naming system)

[CobraKai]

I agree. I know they extended the life of last gen due to hardware shortages, but now is the time to focus on the present.

[Firebird360]

Jznrpg Not true, series s is nothing like pro or one x. It uses the same next gen architecture of ps5 and series x.
Theres no reason it will hold back ps5 or series x from reaching their full potential.

[fr0sty]

Just because Series S uses modern architecture doesn't mean that it is not holding back the MUCH more powerful systems above it. Every multiplat game MUST be coded to be able to run on the weakest system of the bunch. This will be true no matter how modern the architecture of that weaker system is. This is also true for games last gen that had to be made to be able to run on switch.

Want a scene with 10,000 troops each with their own AI marching towards a player? Well, too bad, the weakest system can only do 4,000... and adding in those extra 6k troops actually changes the gameplay, it's easier on the weaker system with fewer troops... so all systems get 4000.

Some gameplay decisions are scalable. We can reduce level of detail, draw distance, resolution, framerate... but some things cannot be scaled. The size of the levels, the complexity of the physics (as this can affect gameplay), the number of players on screen at once (which can also affect gameplay), etc... For game developers, these are things that have to be considered when developing for multiple platforms.

Just a completely made up example, but that applies to all things in the game... graphics, physics, sound, memory usage (which affects level size, asset detail, etc), all of it must run on the weak system too.

This is why cross-gen hurt so many launch titles... now that we're finally ditching last-gen, we're still stuck with one system that is kinda in-between generations.

[just_looken]

Just everyone remember this is rspawns 2nd game under the ea umbrella titanfall they were on there own management same with fallen order yes they were purchased but look it up there plan was laid out by them.

Also forspoken showed 2 skus but wow that was a bad game so keep your expectations low all we know of Disney could so up and add a live service anthem style platform like the skins in battlefront 2.

Or make it like capcom with chapters like the old revelation games

Its ea now not respawn wait and see.

[46player]

Yep, they keep holding games back making them run on the old hardware. God of War Ragnarok is an excellent example of that.

[jznrpg]

Still one of the best games of this generation despite being crossgen.

[SurgicalMenace]

Illustrate in what ways that GoW was held back?

[SurgicalMenace]

Well, since you didn't like that question, how about this one: Prove that any cross gen is holding back current gen? Much like PC games can throttle features on and off due to GPU limitations, so can devs with the PS4 and PS5.

To prove this point, I played Crisis Core Reunion in its entirety on PS4. Upon booting up my PS5 version, I saw a huge difference in AA, load times, FPS, and textures. These are commonly the standard features that have to be adjusted between a high-end and a low-end graphic card. Load up Doom Eternal, World War Z, or any other game that's released on both platforms to see the apparent differences.

[chicken_in_the_corn]

That's a good thing. If this was cross-gen, they would just be making the first game again.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Good thing

[Kaii]

Shame Diablo 4 didn't get this, hardware limitations suck ass.

[AuraAbjure]

Oh man, this game's gunna be intense. Can't wait!

[Seth_hun]

But if i see a crawling trough small spaces section,to mask loading the next area, i will riot XD

[jznrpg]

It makes sense sometimes to crawl in small spaces in games and not be for loading . Going in a dungeon or tomb for instance .

[Neonridr]

because we eventually have to move on.

[Einhander1971]

Personally it still doesn't look that much better than the first game.

[CorndogBurglar]

It's not all about looks. They said in the article it allows them to make bigger maps, more enemy types, overall fidelity, and better graphics.

Just because the graphics didn't jump very high doesn't mean they aren't taking advantage of the PS5.

[Sonic1881]

I hope the PC version is optimized just like the first game

[46player]

The latest news about this game has just made me more excited. Fast travel and mounts!

[CrimsonWing69]

There’s no need to explain. We never needed explanations in past generations. Why the hell do we need it now? It’s been over 2 years since current-gen started, let’s get some current-gen games going for chrissakes!

[jznrpg]

Yep it’s time. Covid extended the period of time with low chip availability but current sales of past gen games show it’s time to move on now .

[Blaze929]

About time. Start the wave no more cross gen games

[StarkR3ality]

Because it's year 3 and it's time to leave that shit behind. If people wanted a current gen console they would have one, supply is readily available now for both. There's no excuse other than greed for stagnating gaming tech for 3 years just to get access to last gen's install base. I know people will blame COVID but come on now, that excuse has long gone out the window.

[jznrpg]

Supply just ramped up lately in last few months and development for games takes years and they didn’t know when the supply would change so we may get another couple games that were developed with last gen in mind but they should be fading out soon .

[StarkR3ality]

Why were other gens cross gen periods either none existent then or faded out after a year? Nah pal don't accept that, greed, all there is to it. 30 million PS5 and 20 million Series X/S isn't enough?

Madness.

[Demetrius]

Good! I love ps4 but cross gen gotta stop I’m ready to see full fledge step up in gaming creativity the ps4 honestly wasn’t pushed enough for me maybe by rockstar with red dead 2 and Sonys studios that’s bout it

[PhillyDillyDee]

Its been over 2 years. I dont think these devs and pubs need to explain themselves anymore

[jznrpg]

At this point of the generation there really is no need for explanation.

[ChiefofLoliPolice]

You don't need to explain
It's been past time to start seeing some exclusive current gen games. If anyone doesn't have a PS5 or Series X or S by now oh fucking well.

[Goozex]

No excuses ea let's make a 60 fps and 4k then

[HeliosHex]

It's a good way to make people understand its time to upgrade.

[GotGame818]

The environments look much better. EA did a great job with Fallen Order, it looked great, but this looks even better. It's definitely time to say goodbye to 9 year old hardware.

[zachyBROosevelt]

No explanation needed at this point, we are more than 2 years into “next gen” at this point

[ghostrider32]

No explanation needed. Last Gen need to be thrown under the bus.

[LucidIllusion]

What's to explain?

[CorndogBurglar]

Why should this even need to be explained? You've gotta let go of last gen sometime, otherwise the industry will never grow and we'll be held back by cross gen graphics forever.

[Aggy]

It's better that we move onto the current gen instead of sticking with the previous gen. Sticking to previous gen hurt Dragon Age: Inquisition (according to the developers themselves via an interview for Blood, Sweat, and Pixels: The Triumphant, Turbulent Stories Behind How Video Games Are Made – September 5, 2017)