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[Spoilers] The star of Forspoken isn’t bothered by all the memes

Ella Balinska has already won.

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Orchard465d ago

“This is such an extraordinary game that has come out with this amazing protagonist who’s so bold, so unapologetic, so reluctant in the best way possible,” she said.

So she hasn't actually played the game then.

But ultimately, why would she care. She's already cashed the check, probably won't get the money from a sequel but that's not the end of the world, and shouldn't really hit her career anyway because the performance is fine - it's the writing that is bad. She was paid to do a job and she did it.

Levii_92465d ago

You just hate this game cause you hate women.

- David Jaffe

shinoff2183465d ago

Jaffe really said that lol. Jaffe always made me laugh on some things he's said

Lexreborn2465d ago

@shinoff what I find funny is it’s clear Jaffe is speaking on behalf of a target group. Very obvious very blatant sexist, racist and misogynistic. And the people that are upset with it are either those people, or in some weird attempt trying to defend that group they awkwardly aligned with.

If the sales number comes back that barely anyone bought or experienced the game it’s going to be even more enlightening that people really are full of it.

Anyone screaming the game looks bad are full of it. Gungrave Gore is the modern standard for looking bad, and honestly evil west which has cheesy dialogue, ps2 level assets and clunky gameplay was getting 8-9s…. And fell to a middling score across the board.

Yet no one argued this, no one spammed the user meta score by HUNDREDS of bs reviews. The BS our community showed us appalling and I am constantly reminded why our community is shrinking.

DarXyde465d ago

Jaffe explained himself more clearly in a podcast with Fritanga (who, frankly, really showed that he doesn't understand anything). Jaffe has said plenty of weird things, but he definitely said if you hate the game while knowing nothing about it, it would lead him to believe you have an issue with the protagonist.

You can disagree with that, and that's fair enough. But at least keep his argument in context.

senorfartcushion465d ago

Jaffe is always doing the opposite to games. He always complains about virtue signalling.

(He idiotically confuses casting with virtue signalling)

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sammarshall102465d ago

You haven't played the game. I finished it days ago and the story is surprisingly good and there is character growth

Lexreborn2465d ago

I got my first 100% achievement on steam with Forspoken and 58 hours total. Safe to say I loved it

sammarshall102465d ago

@Lexreborn2 Same here! I even started a new playthrough right after

andy85465d ago

The writing is good though. You can't judge off a few lines on the Internet if you haven't played it

sammarshall102465d ago

Exactly! I can now see Amy Hennig's involvement with the story. I was thinking about that last chapter for a long time after I beat the game

Elda465d ago

Guessing you could have done better. Smh.

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monkey602465d ago

Just a heads up for anyone playing the game, this article spoils the ending.

As for Ella. I'm glad she can take the loss in her stride but if my acting career highlights were The Netflix Resident Evil series, The Charlie's Angels Reboot and Forespoken, I'd be worried about when my luck will run out.

EvertonFC465d ago

Probably already made enough money to buy a house and enjoy life

monkey602465d ago

Oh I've no doubt she's better off than me right now ha but I can't imagine she wants any of these roles to be her career highlights

sammarshall102465d ago

She should be proud of Forspoken it's a good game

Sonic1881465d ago (Edited 465d ago )

I'll just say this I've played a lot worse games than Forspoken like Crossfire X but Forspoken is still mediocre at best. The thing is I've played so many bad games in my life that I wasn't that bothered by Forspoken but it's still not a *great* game. The only reason I got the game is because I had $90 of store credit at GameStop. After I beat the game I took it back to get store credit for it

FinalFantasyFanatic464d ago

Uoh, that's a bad history right there, I'd call that bad luck on her behalf though.

H9465d ago

"So is it cringe? Maybe. But humanity is itself cringe"

Speak for yourself, I can't understand this self hate culture, most people see the good in humanity not "cringe"

EvertonFC465d ago

Exactly the ones moaning about cringe are cringe themselves 🤣😂

Godmars290465d ago

The problem with that, many who see "the best" are making things worse. See their own actions as only just and right regardless of how they effect others.

When people can admit they've done wrong, accept responsibility, then get back to me.

H9465d ago

I am not talking about people seeing themselves as good, I am talking about people who have a positive outlook to life and wouldn't spend most of their time with negativity, if you have been anywhere near social media you would know that we have a nihilistic problem where people have fun bringing themselves and each other down, I may be talking aggressively but I do believe that this negativity is bringing people to a endless path of depression

Pedantic91465d ago

She already got paid.
Besides, she's not responsible for the horrible writing, she plays out the part given to her. Whatever writers SE hired from the west is to blame.

sammarshall102465d ago

The writing is anything but horrible. There has been a few lines that people think are cringe but everything else is no worse than most modern games

The story is actually really good with a good twist too

Lexreborn2465d ago

You cannot convince stubborn people of their ignorance. They fight hard to protect their ignorant views. It’s easier to spread a lie someone told you then to pick up a book, game or material and experience it yourself.

People who scream bad writing have to experience the entirety of a script to know if it’s bad or not.

And people like this watched a highlight reel on YouTube or the negative reviews they felt reaffirmed their opinion and ran with it.

sammarshall102465d ago

@Lexreborn2 You're absolutely right! The "cringe" impressions from just a few lines and the memes are deeply embedded at this point

I'm glad I gave it a chance :)

Elda465d ago

Agreed. The people that disagree just have no clue because they don't own the game nor do they have the interest to buy or try the game so they just disapprove just to disapprove.

Pedantic91464d ago (Edited 464d ago )

@sammarshall102
@Lexreborn2

This isn't the 90's or dial-up modem era, more and more people can claim a game is great or wonderful without ever having held a controller. Why is that ? You don't think i would be capable of the very same thing but in opposite ?
That i can't research my way through for a game i may or may not purchase ?

Im not about to spend my hard earned money in a game without atleast knowing i won't be disappointed halfway through. I will even spoil some of the game if it means im making an informed purchase of a product that will satisfy my needs. Imagine having to take a plunge eveytime you bought something, sounds awful.

sammarshall102464d ago

@Pedantic91 It sucks that you'll miss out. And what do you think people will see when they look up Forspoken? They'll see reviews and clickbait titles from people who didn't play the game or give it a chance

I was one of the people who tried to get people to buy Days Gone and I watched everyone praise the game a year or so after it came out. If Days Gone had sold well at release we might've gotten a sequel

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Most Disappointing Game of 2023

VGChartz's Craig S: "Who doesn't love a good dose of schadenfreude every now and then? There was no shortage of that on offer in terms of video games last year, hidden in plain sight amongst the more genuine disappointments (I'll leave it for you to decide which category each of the following games falls into).

One unfortunate trend when it comes to the biggest disappointments of the last year was that so many were new IPs, including Bethesda's latest major release Starfield, the Arkane Studio B-team's abortive attempt at a co-op vampire shooter, and Square Enix's action RPG Forspoken. Mega-franchise Call of Duty and the perennially delayed The Lord of the Rings: Gollum round out the list of Nominees."

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Profchaos113d ago

I think disappointing and bad are not the same thing.

The article calls out lotr Gollum that was not disappointing it was bad

Redfall is both disappointing and bad.

starfield, MW3 sure disappointing.

But if I was to add some disappointments of the year I'd add

firewall ultra absolutely a dumpster fire that killed the studio.

007 goldeneye the port of the N64 game it's disappointing as we didn't get the rare remaster version and the switch version has very poor controls.

Rdr was not the remake we wanted a simple port that didn't even run at 60 fps on launch on ps5

Jedi survivor Just broken on day 1

coolbeans113d ago

-"The article calls out lotr Gollum that was not disappointing it was bad"

I personally fall on the 'Gollum disappointing' spectrum. Here's why: even though Daedalic Entertainment was hopping out of their point-n-click lane, they *were* a solid group of devs that had an unexpected concept. Those two things, cheering on a dev taking a risk with a brand and the odd-yet-intriguing template, at least made me hope for something decent; instead, it's the reason they're only publishing now.

CBaoth113d ago

But the concept never stood a chance, even in the heyday of the Metal Gear/Splinter Cell days. When this was announced, no one was intrigued by its premise. Fell flat on its face. Even if Gollum had come out to glowing reviews the game would've struggled to perform financially. That's why it's not disappointing, just bad. Had no hype. All the other games Prof listed had the potential to sell great or be reviewed better but failed. Low effort remasters like the GTA collection, the RDR port, and MGS Collection could all sell well but still be severely disappointing. Gollum was uninteresting at concept, terrible in its execution. The result was expected sadly.

Sephiroushin11d ago

I don’t know but i don't even would put Gollum on a disappointment list, those list would be for games people expected much more than what they delivered and most people expected Gollum to be bad!

-Foxtrot113d ago

Goldeneye is so weird

We got no proper remaster for it despite the fact it was being worked on and it was almost done apparently then the Xbox version didn't come with online play but the Nintendo Switch one did...the Switch...the system where online play is a f***** ballache.

https://youtu.be/6B8ssbyAeR...

RhinoGamer88113d ago

I recently came back to Redfall, my lord...the controls and movement were a disgrace! I felt like my character was drunk. Zero fine movement control. The XBOX producers on this game should be fired.

OtterX113d ago

I think Diablo IV deserves to be on this list. While not the worst made game, it was one of the most disappointing. Many of us had such high expectations for it and it turned out to be so incredibly dull, a slog to play.

Sonic1881113d ago

It's basically Diablo Immoral 2.0 with lots of microtransactions

DarkZane113d ago

Diablo 3 was as much as a dumpster fire at launch, but a year later, it became a very good game and was well worth playing. Give Diablo 4 the same time. In a year, it's going to be awesome I bet.

coolbeans113d ago

I was under the impression their most-recent update fits that bill.

OtterX113d ago

K I'll try reinstalling in a year or 2.

I didn't play D3 until after the first year, so I will certainly give it another shot.. especially to try and get my money's worth out of it. But at launch, I was bored out of my mind and uninstalled it.

Sonic1881112d ago

That's the biggest issue. Unfinished games with lots of flaws and issues during launch. Unfortunately, most gamers don't forget or forgive that and would rather spend their money on another game

jznrpg113d ago (Edited 113d ago )

Jedi Survivor was disappointing for me because I waited until a month ago to play it and it still has major issues. My saves were getting corrupted so I had to restart an old save however many times and a plethora of other bugs.

Of course there is Redfall Starfield but to me it’s MS overhype underdeliver so I expected it to some extent but not as bad as it was.

Gollum had little to no expectations.

Forspoken was a disappointment but not as bad as it was made out to be especially if you turned on Japanese voice acting. It was a 7 type of game but it looked like it could have been better.

Diablo 4 was scored well at launch but all my friends that loved and played 3 (after years of swasons) up until 4 were disappointed with 4 and don’t play it anymore .

Factions getting canceled was a bit of a disappointment. Not huge as I don’t play gaas much but it was disappointing.

Nintendo not releasing Switch 2 again was disappointing to me. I don’t use my Switch much it’s just so outdated and mosty kiddy games release some more games that I want to play not my kids!

No physical copy for Alan Wake 3 disappointing as hell, actually beyond that it is upsetting (to some extent,I will live of course)

Gamers getting used to owning nothing and renting games is very disappointing. I don’t watch Netflix anymore it’s mosty mediocre crap and rental services will go that direction if allowed.

CBaoth113d ago

this whole gen has been a major disappointment to me. Least amount of gaming I've done since bar/clubbing days. Watching fanboys argue now is akin to a couple of kids fighting over the front seat of a short bus. They can't even argue over games anymore.....cuz there aren't any! With two of the console manufacturers "switching' over to x86 architecture we shouldn't be having these draughts but here we are. And the third happily chugs along selling games on decade old microchips with an OLED screen.

Profchaos113d ago (Edited 113d ago )

X86 is a shared architecture but both run different development pipelines so they still have to Dev for those consoles plus PC and Arm if a switch port is included.

None of this will reduce Dev times games are complex now probably more than they need to be honestly but if every studio takes 3 to 5 or even 10 years to bring out their big titles there's going to be many dry spells

On that note arm processing is far more efficient than x86 I think Nintendo is making the right call sticking with that and we will probably see Sony and Microsoft do the same next gen as more effort is being made to bring arm into desktop space lately

Profchaos113d ago

Being disappointed that Nintendo isn't releasing ultra violent games is like being disappointed that the the next GTA game is open world. Plus totk and Metroid prime remaster did come out this year that's about as violent as they will even get

Im pretty certain that one experiment in publishing devils third is one they would like to forget.

Plus all rumours for the switch 2 places it's release in 2024 they make killer numbers at Christmas if they announce they are making a switch 2 those sales dwindle and shareholders get upset. If a switch 2 doesn't release this year that's disappointing. And if third party's don't develop for it even more so there's zero garuntee they will

I agree gamers getting used to owning nothing is a huge disappointment I don't think many will go silently into that one though

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I Hope 2024 Isn't As Bad For PC Ports As 2023 Was

Ahmed from eXputer writes "The quality of PC ports has been seeing a severe decline recently, and many gamers have had enough."

anast154d ago

Switch Forspoken with Redfall.

JEECE154d ago

It can be an unfortunate trend in our industry to lump games people were looking forward to that didn't end up meeting their expectations and were just okay (Forspoken) with games that are broken (Gollum) or little more than asset flips (The Day Before). If expectations (and price) had been set appropriately, Forspoken wouldn't even be that bad.