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Reaction: Xbox Needs A New, Reliable Competitor For PS5's 'DualSense Edge'

The arrival of PlayStation's equivalent controller has got us thinking that it's about time we started to hear about an 'Xbox Elite 3 Controller' from Microsoft. While we certainly have a feature list that we'd love to see implemented, we primarily want Xbox to focus on two main improvements.

The first one is pretty obvious, an Elite 3 should (and would, you'd think) be built around the Xbox Series X|S pad. After a couple of years we're now fully adjusted to any subtle differences the new controller offers — like a slightly slimmer build and the prominent share button — so we're more than ready for a DualSense Edge competitor that's properly 'next-gen'.

However, the second key focus has to be around properly fixing all of the issues we saw with the Elite 1 and 2 controllers. Yes, these are more complex devices than normal gamepads, and yes the DualSense Edge is yet to stand up to the test of time, but the simple fact is these things should be very reliable given the prices we're being charged for them.

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SullysCigar473d ago

It's about time for Elite 3 anyway, but you've got to be thinking the praise DualSense Edge is getting will force their hand.

Flawlessmic473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

An elite 3 is definnatly coming at some point.

It seems the edge is an amazing controller with one shortfall of a very bad battery.

If Ms can find the middle ground and improve on the elite 2 while maintaining great battery life that will take it over the edge.

Neither is for me though, way to expensive for an uncompetitive gamer who mostly plays sp games anyway

darthv72473d ago

the only praise worthy thing about the edge is the removable analog sticks. Other than that it is a DS5 with back buttons but with higher price and shorter battery life.

SullysCigar473d ago

Lol c'mon darthv72, let's be a bit more honest here. If you actually read the reviews there are more differences than that - adjustable trigger tensioners for starters.

As for the battery life, if you're a competitive gamer and you're willing to shell out $200+ for a controller, you're not playing wirelessly. You're doing whatever you can to gain a competitive advantage - and that means minimising input lag, which in turn means you play wired. The same goes for any controller.

VenomUK473d ago

@darthv72 When you've got a dedicated Xbox website effectively praising the PlayStation DualSense Edge premium controller and yet you are downplaying its merits then perhaps it's time to ask 'am I being disproportionately critical?'

darthv72473d ago

@sully, i am being honest. The replaceable analog sticks are a praise worthy feature. The back buttons and trigger sensitivity switches are all just PS take on the XB elite controller.

@venom, they can like it all they want, it doesnt change my view on the subject. Im not downplaying anything, just telling it like it is. Just as the elite is a higher priced XB controller with back buttons... so is this.

Sonic1881473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

The Elite 3 would probably be close to the same price if they add the same features like the Dualsense Edge controller. It would also have a shorter battery life as well if they add similar features like the dualsense edge. Just saying

StarkR3ality473d ago

The edge is 4 hours. The elite series 2 is 40 hours. A touchpad and some fancy triggers does not equate to a 90% decrease in battery.

Babadook7473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

@above

Let’s not make a mountain out of a molehill. The dual sense edge should last around 12 hours.

Sonic1881473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

It's actually 6 to 8 hours

StarkR3ality473d ago

No reviews have said it's 4 hours. I'm sure it's a great controller but don't fudge the figures, it's worse than the dualsense.

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DarXyde473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

So in other words, you're saying that Xbox gamers will have to....

..... Wait for E3. 😎

Don't @ me, I don't live here.

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crazyCoconuts473d ago

Reliability is the most important thing to improve, but how do you market that without admitting you have a quality issue? Outside of that either swapable thumbsticks or that magnetic no-contact switch thumbstick design that ppl have been talking about would be good

SierraGuy473d ago

I don't understand why laser tracked thumbsticks aren't a thing yet.

lonewolf10473d ago

Odd about the quality issues with the Elites, I'm using the red Gears of War controller and have done since it released way back when with no issues (well apart from me breaking the shoulder button rocker by dropping it, easily replaced though thank god).

StarkR3ality473d ago

Yeah the OG Xbox one controller was super reliable for me, Elite series 2 I've had replaced twice. It's the crappy shoulder buttons that always go for me, terrible design. Stick drift I've never had any issues with at all.

Pickledpepper473d ago

I've haven't had any issues with my elite 2 either. The controller is awesome and yes I prefer it over my ps5 controller.
I might just be me or it could be fanboys just don't want to admit it but the adaptive triggers on the ps5 controller are annoying more than anything and I don't find they add any depth to a game at all, after a while you don't even realise they are doing anything anyway.
HZD 2 when you use your staff to open the doors and the triggers get a little stiff and that's it!

crazyCoconuts473d ago

it gets stiff when you use your staff to open doors?

StarkR3ality473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

I actually like the PS5 adaptive triggers depending on the implementation (mainly first party titles). I think overall the Edge will be the better controller but the reviews I've watched have put the battery life as worse than the dualsense at about 4 hours, the series 2 is 40 hours and I refuse to believe that adaptive triggers and rumble means 10x less battery. That really isn't good enough, but if it's more reliable than the elite series, then maybe the less battery life will be worth it to some people.

Costs way too much though, considering that the series 2 was £170 at launch (can be found at £140 new ATM) it's way overpriced at £210. Baring in mind the series 2 comes with more customisable hardware, the same if not more software features and something I really like but it's not essential, the magnetic wireless charger. But if the dualsense edge is more reliable which I assume it will be for the price, it might be worth once the price comes down.

deadfrag473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

You can turn off the adaptive feature!

Destiny1080473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

without next-gen features, its going to look really silly next to the edge controller

your best bet is for sony to release a set of xbox drivers for the edge controller

crazyCoconuts473d ago

It's not technically competing with Sony directly, so it's not a big deal. The target audience for Elite controllers are people that either have Xboxes already or game on a PC.

Outside_ofthe_Box473d ago

People need to apply this logic elsewhere too

Orchard473d ago

"your best bet is for sony to release a set of xbox drivers for the edge controller"

That will literally never happen. Third party developers cannot create input drivers for Xbox lol.

Your best bet for a new Xbox controller is clearly from Xbox.

starsi360473d ago

@orchard

Love how people are disagreeing with your facts. Typical community response 🤣

crazyCoconuts473d ago

Orchard has a fan club. @Orchard, try posting "1+1=2" and see how many disagrees you get ;-)

Orchard473d ago

😂😂 Tell me about it, tough crowd!

Orchard473d ago

They'll launch an Elite 3 at some point this gen, and probably a refreshed base controller too.

StarkR3ality473d ago (Edited 473d ago )

Disagree with the base controller, I think they will just stick the existing one, series 3 is a cert though.

Also I thought the Sony fanboys hated me even though I own and love my PS5 but just don't like anyone who has a Xbox or a PC. But damn they hate you my guy 😂

Orchard473d ago

Haha, I know right!

And yeah I could be totally wrong on the base controller, I just hope they've been beat up enough over re-shipping the XB1 controller that they might refresh it.

But agree that Elite 3 will definitely come.

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3 reasons I love the DualSense Edge: The ultimate PlayStation 5 controller

T3:

As someone who plays PlayStation 5 most nights, I've been thinking recently about how much of my time I spend with a DualSense controller in my hands. It's a special bit of kit and with adaptive triggers and haptic feedback, it's unlike any controller that came before it.

merlox119d ago

It’s a great controller. The only major issue is that the rubber grips will tear off eventually. But, you can get colored replacements from Extremerate. They come in multiple colors and are easy to install. Here’s a link to their site, if curious.

https://extremerate.com/

NautilusXIII118d ago

Same thing that happened to mine. I did buy the grips, but then later bought their controller shell the day they were available for purchase.

Bathyj119d ago (Edited 119d ago )

I would love to see first person shooters allow you to use the VR controllers as motion controllers. I just bought a gunstock for VR but how good would it be if you could use that in any first person or third person shooter?

Probably wouldn't work. It needs the headset for tracking. I can dream but, if you played it on the headset.

andy85119d ago

I have a giftcard and i want one as I have thumb issues sometimes so this will help a lot but I've been holding off for a discount. I can't believe it's not really had one yet since launch. Expected one on black Friday

FernDiggidy118d ago

I fucking looove this thing. A bit pricey But I love it.

GoodnessGreatness118d ago

It's a great controller but the battery life is absolutely terrible. 3 hours of gameplay and it's already low, it might as well be a wired controller 🤦‍♂️

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DualSense Edge Users Play Games For Longer Periods On PS5, Shows Research

A study shows that DualSense Edge users are playing games for over 30 hours, with more sessions and variety compared to the rest on the PS5.

Jin_Sakai257d ago (Edited 257d ago )

When you spend $200 on a controller you tend to use it pretty often.

phoenixwing257d ago

Also the people who buy expensive controllers will be ppl more passionate about the video game hobby.

Eonjay256d ago

It makes sense that people playing more would desire a more durable controller.

Sonic1881256d ago (Edited 256d ago )

I like the fact if you get stick drift, you can replace the joysticks

Jin_Sakai256d ago

True, but you could literally buy 3 brand new DualSense controllers should you get stick drift for the price of the Edge controller.

Sonic1881256d ago (Edited 256d ago )

But what if you get stick drift with those controllers in the future. You will have to pay $70 dollars for a replacement. The dualsense edge joysticks 🕹 only cost $19.99 to replace

Stanjara256d ago

So increasing PsPlus prices are going to result in longer online playing?

IMissJimRyan256d ago

Of course, those willing to pay a lot of money for a controller are those that are deeper in addiction and dependence.

IMissJimRyan256d ago

People enjoy alcohol, drugs and a lot of stuff. But most people that buy an expensive controller are way beyond enjoying games and are truly addicted. When something become the thing you most spend time everyday after sleeping, that's an addiction.
You can say it's an escapism or something like it and it's true. But it's an addiction nonetheless. Like other addiction those who use it tend to deny they are dependent.

Tacoboto256d ago

If you think that about gamers why are you even on a gaming site?

IMissJimRyan256d ago

I just don't pretend that games are not an addiction.

Tacoboto256d ago

I guess the spatula and grill I bought are really just enablers to my grilling addiction...

You're full of wisdom.

Sephiroushin256d ago

I hardly play and when i do i usually use m&k but i have 2 elites ... You know some people won't break their bank for buying a "pro" controller which is more expensive... Also i am not addicted to work which is the thing i do the most after i wake up thanks.

Mr_cheese256d ago

Make it make sense.

Going straight to addiction as your reasoning shows more issues with you than it does with those you're trying to pin

Amplitude256d ago (Edited 256d ago )

@locomorales
That's a horrible and completely incorrect way of looking at this. Saying anybody that buys a good controller is addicted to video games on the same level as alcohol and drugs is bats**t insane lol

I have a $300 custom PS5 controller with 4 back paddles, swappable sticks and adjustable L2/R2 buttons as well as a third party XBox Elite knockoff controller but I only play games maybe a few times per week.
Hell, if Microsoft made an actual Elite controller and added gyro and a trackpad to it, I'd immediately go buy that right now no matter what the cost was (no controller exists that lets you map back 4 paddles to macros {like "Start Recording") in Steam like the Elite controller, but with gyro and a trackpad)

Once you get used to a good controller with back paddles it's really hard to go back to face buttons. Can't even move the camera while reloading or jumping! Insanity. I work full time, I'm not addicted to playing video games. I'd just rather drop the extra money for a controller that does what I want, feels nice for when I do play, arguably gives me a skill boost and lasts a long time. It's not for everyone but it's worth the cost to me and a lot of other non-video-game-addicted people.

Rimeskeem256d ago

Do you know what addiction and dependence are?

Seraphim256d ago (Edited 256d ago )

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z2g256d ago (Edited 256d ago )

I’d imagine someone who spends 200 on a controller plays a lot of games… enough to seek out a 200 controller. This is kinda like saying people who buy cars spend more time driving cars.

Popsicle256d ago

Is this supposed to be a surprise?

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Industry Analyst Reveals Surprising Bestselling Gaming Accessory

Industry analyst Mat Piscatella, Executive Director & Video Game Industry Analyst at Circana, has revealed that the DualSense Edge controller for the PlayStation 5 is the best-selling accessory of 2023 in the US in dollar sales. The DualSense Edge is a pro-level PS5 controller primarily aimed at competitive gamers, and it comes with a bunch of notable features that set it apart from the standard DualSense controller.

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Jin_Sakai283d ago

“the DualSense Edge controller for the PlayStation 5 is the best-selling accessory of 2023 in the US in dollar sales.“

In dollar sales yes because it’s a whopping $200.

TheCaptainKuchiki281d ago

So? It could've flopped. Just because it's price is high doesn't guarantee a 1st place.

Jin_Sakai281d ago

Well I’m happy it’s selling well but I’m sure as heck not paying $200 for a controller.

Charlieboy333281d ago

@Jin Well you don't have to pay shit if you don't want to. Some people do. What is your point exactly?

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ChasterMies281d ago

Go to an Apple store and you’ll see PlayStation controllers. PlayStation has made a nice market of selling outside its console base.

S2Killinit281d ago (Edited 281d ago )

Its not surprising when you look at how many PS5s are being sold.

TheCaptainKuchiki281d ago

It is surprising because there was so assurance that it would sell well considering its price.
Obviously we need the volume ranking as well.

AmUnRa280d ago

You know that every PS5 comes with a controller...right?
Ps gamers who ae buying an extra controller do that cous they want to play with a friend localy ....right?
Some gamers want to pay $200 to have a small advantage comparing to the standard controller.

KwietStorm_BLM281d ago

Waited years for them to make this controller, but they only put 2 buttons on the back. So sticking with my scuf and bfg til they make a second gen. Considering PS5 sales, it's not a crazy surprise the controller has sold well though, because people like myself have wanted it. I think we're finally at a time where pads and input methods on console are catching on to modern game design.

persona4chie281d ago

It’s not terribly surprising, to me at least. Especially when you consider PS fans have wanted something like this for awhile that’s made by Sony. At least to my knowledge, neither MS or Nintendo have released any new types of accessories for their consoles anytime recently that scratches a certain itch and is made by them.

Plus when you factor in the more “hardcore” audience on PlayStation, especially with games like CoD it kinda makes sense. At least to me 🤷‍♂️