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AMD Unveils First RDNA 3 GPUs: The Radeon RX 7900 XT & RX 7900 XTX

Launching December 13th, the new Radeon RX 7900 XT and RX 7900 XTX are set to bring astonishing enthusiast-level performance at an $899 starting price.

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ABizzel1580d ago

This was EVERYTHING they needed to do. The 4090 is the better GPU in RT, and honestly it looks like the RT of the 7000 series is really only on par with the RTX 2000 series and mainly because it had way more CUs.

BUT

Getting RTX 4090 levels of rasterization performance for $600 - $1000 less is the price difference and killer blow they needed to make everyone thing twice about blindly going with NVIDIAs line-up.

I hope AMD gains market share, and NVIDIA is forced to take an L on price, and a loss on their 3000 series for the generations of greed they’re feed consumers.

STANDING OVATION AMD

Fishy Fingers580d ago

Mostly a impressive sounding show, outside of the silly ultrawide/FSR 8K claims (neither being 8K), but surprised they didnt show any direct comparisons. Will be iinteresting to see real world benchmarks.

Number1TailzFan579d ago

No different than the nonsense Nvidia pulled with the 3090 8k claims.

Also, 4k 100+Hz I imagine being the sweet spot for a while, Linus did a 4k/8k comparison and people couldn't tell the difference which was which, even close up to the screen it was little/nothing. Seems like it might be subtle and that's it.

Not to mention 8k would tank performance.

badz149579d ago

@Number1TailzFan

what nonsense though? the 4090 has been shown running Genshin Impact at 1330fps high settings. not really nonsense now, isn't it?

badz149579d ago

I meant to say "13k 30fps"

Bobertt578d ago

@Number1TailzFan
Part of the issue is that CSGO wasn't really designed for 8k so just raising the resolution won't make a huge difference from 4k. You need higher resolution assets to see a noticeable difference. Usually for 4k mods on older games you have to download a 4k texture pack but they either don't have any for 8k or they didn't use it. Also it still won't be as good as a game with assets already made for 8k instead of mod texture packs.

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CantThinkOfAUsername579d ago

Don't go blindly buying any brand/card right now. Wait till 2023 when actual 'next-gen' games are released and see which one performs better. Recent games struggle to fully utilise 4090 and are poor indication of future games.

XiNatsuDragnel579d ago

AMD does what NVIDA doesn't!!! Support these guys with our money not NVIDA rn. We need teach NVIDA a lesson by not buying their 4090 to make 5090 Amazing.

Vithar579d ago

can it do ray tracing now, last gen was shit

ABizzel1579d ago (Edited 579d ago )

RT is better but only ranges from 50% better than RX 6000 Series up to 2x, making it RTX 2000 series performance levels at best. Path teacing performance is still meh (Cyberpunk and the RTX demons NVIDIA released). Cyberpunk MAX is 62fps on AMD 7900 XTX, 87fps on 4090 with DLSS 2.0 (not 3.0)

AMD RT isn't going to be comparable to RTX 4000 until their next NEW architecture. Several GPU designers from Intel and NVIDIA whonworked on RT at those companies now work at AMD, so in 2 years or so they should have dedicated RT cores and their Machine Learning should have been used enough to get FSR 3.0 (2023) on par at least on par with XESS in quality and DLSS 3.0 in features.

RT and features NVIDIA is still the way to go. Price to performance, and not having a 4 slot brick in your PC forcing many to get entirely nee cases and even builds, the AMD RX 7000 is the way to go and save $600 - $1000 in the process.

CantThinkOfAUsername579d ago

Their slides showed Cyberpunk 2077 with Ray Tracing gaining 1.5x. 6900XT was 50% slower than 3090 in this game. So it's on par with 3000 series now.

ABizzel1579d ago

Technically you're right, but when I look at things like this I put both products on an even playing field.

The reason why it's even close to the RTX 3000 is a combination of the 50% performance boost, but also having 20% more CUs as well over the previous 6900XT. The raw RT performance AMD is about on par with the RTX 2000 series finally. But again thanks to having more CUs and eventually optimizations it will be somewhere in between RTX 2000 - RTX 3000 by the end of its lifecycle in RT. Not to mention it's getting FSR 3.0 in 2023 which will also add the benefits DLSS 3.0 has brought (added frames and reduced latency).

1nsomniac579d ago

@ABizzel1 you realise there’s about 6-8 cards between the range of “2000 - 3000 series” you’re mentioning, right?

Espangerish579d ago

Way I see it, if you want the best possible ultra performance and have deep pockets get RTX4000. You'll get the wow factor performance.

If you want great performance (without the raytracing), power efficiency and value for money go 7000 series. Gives the added benefit of voting with your wallet on where you stand on 2000 dollar 'consumer' GPUs.

If you want to be sensible with your money pick up a RTX 3000 or 6000 series in the next few months. Huge over stocking of the old gen is going to make prices tank. Some great deals will be out there.

Om4ever579d ago

7000 serie for me ... RT is gimmick and brings nothing.

XxINFERNUSxX579d ago

I was ready to see a 7800XT or a 7700XT as well, was thinking about buying one of them but, AMD did not deliver on that. Again we have to wait until 2023. I assumed since they released all their Zen 4 CPU tiers they would follow with their GPU's. 😠

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Meta Is Doing With VR What Apple And Sony Have Struggled To Do

Shaz from GL: "Where Sony is ramping down support for PSVR2, and Apple are reconsidering their future with the Vision Pro, Meta and the Quest 3 continue to shine."

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ApocalypseShadow22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

I'll admit that Facebook is doing more for VR than others. But they also have blown over 50 billion dollars so far and growing in R&D, building the meta verse, buying up exclusives and underpricing their products below build price, to kill competition in the stand alone space. Sony and Valve aren't willing to go into the red at an unheard level to capture the market. We know Sony could build a stand alone device that beats Quest just by the features in PS VR 2 and the new stand alone headset they built. But the new Sony would rather build a device they can profit from day one.

But, Sony so far has profited on hardware and on software. They just don't seem willing to spend the money on marketing, selling under build price or spending millions on making in-house VR exclusives for PS VR 2. Which sucks big time. They're just letting 3rd parties and indies run the show.

Article also doesn't mention that Apple's headset is more a developers product than a mass market item. To say they are looking into making a cheaper one for the next iteration is speaking the obvious. Duh. That was always the case. Build something the public sees as quality not can't afford, then make another that the masses can afford. TVs, cars, cellphones etc all were once expensive. Now, they're cheap to buy with many options to choose from. And Apple isn't even selling VP as a VR headset. I'm well aware that Apple's true intentions is to build a device that pushes AR with VR as an option. Not build a VR device. Because they know eventually that they want to replace the cellphone with AR glasses or an AR headset. If they cared about games, they would have launched as a gaming device.

Lastly, Facebook launched Quest 3 last year. But has not mentioned how many they sold up to this point. Why is that? Besides Quest 2 selling more by being cheap, the market can't move forward until they start selling more Quest 3 headsets than 2. Maybe the new exclusive Batman and Hitman games will help. But we'll see.

helicoptergirl17h ago

Meta is also Billions and billions in the hole in regards to VR. If Sony were to do what Meta has done, they'd be bankrupt

ChasterMies2h ago

Meta is losing billions on a business that theh will probably walk away from like they did the Facebook phone. Temper your expectations of your investments in Meta’s hardware.

franwex44m ago(Edited 44m ago)

I do wish Sony would release more for PSVR. It’s a neat product, but they don’t support it much. It may have the same fate as the Vita.

I know it’s two completely separate products as Vita was stand alone, and PSVR is a companion to PS consoles. More 1st party support would really boost it though.

InUrFoxHole36m ago(Edited 35m ago)

They are done supporting it. They're relying on pc to do it for them. Sony even paused production because it's not selling

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PS5 Livestreams Are No Longer Speaking to the Fans Who Built the Brand

The problem for PlayStation right now – through a heady combination of its own adjusted marketing plans, the aftermath of the pandemic, and never-ending development cycles – is that it feels like it’s abandoned the kinds of software that fans have always valued most.

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-Foxtrot1d ago

My issue with the announcements over the past 2 years or so is that now these "big" announcements they hint at or whatever end up being just PC ports.

For most of their core audience, the people watching, we've played them, a PC announcement being made into a big thing and counting as one of their major announcements means f*** all to most of us. Also you have to think if they didn't have them then first party wise they don't have much else.

So now it's split between PC ports (God of War Ragnarök), live service shit (Concord) and the first party games we actually do want (Astrobot).

CrashMania23h ago

Yeah they really should leave the PC announcements to blog posts, most of the audience watching are PlayStation console players, not PC players.

Eonjay9h ago

I'm not sure I understand the stance. They surely want to sell their games no matter what platform they are on. Also leaving out PC port announcements isn't gonna magically make more PS5 announcements.

Abear215h ago

Agreed I thought the God of War announcement was more DLC, disappointing PC announcements on a hype reel doesn’t make sense to PS5 players watching.

CrimsonWing6911h ago(Edited 11h ago)

This particularly was a bad showcase in my opinion. Derivative Souls-like (which in all honesty I will check out because I like the genre, but I couldn’t tell you the names of the games without looking it up or how they’re different from one another), Concord, a mid Silent Hill 2 Remake. I’m not really into platformers so Astrobot didn’t stick to me. The only thing that got me hyped was Monster Hunter: Wilds.

Truth be told though, most of these showcases are ass anyways. I’m struggling to think of one that was firing on all cylinders like the good ol’ E3 conference announcements.

The shift to GaaS is absolute sh*t and for them to think that’s the game to make the focus shows just gives me little hope for the future of gaming, especially the state that the industry is in.

I wish they’d have shown Wolverine or something that would’ve been a “holy sh*t” moment… but nope.

ravens528h ago

Ballad of Antara and Where Winds Meet. They both look dope to me 🤷🏽. N If Concord is on PS+ then I'll take it. It wasn't as bad as people are making it out to be.

-Foxtrot7h ago

Yeah it's funny I'm the same, I can't remember the names off by heart unless I'm reminded.

I think most of these games are just starting to mush together where the one game we do want "Bloodborne" is no where in site whether it's a remake or sequel.

" I wish they’d have shown Wolverine or something that would’ve been a “holy sh*t” moment… but nope"

I don't think we'll see it for a while after the leaks

I just can't believe we've seen nothing on Spiderman 2 DLC, not like I'd be that enthusiastic about it myself but I mean in general I'm surprised it's a no show.

We got 3 story episodes within 3 months of the first games release and it took months to get a New Game Plus mode and that was before all the major leaks that happened

fr0sty7h ago

It isn' that Concord was bad, it's that we've all played it before.

Psychonaut854h ago

Yeah they’ve shown before that they have no problem showing teasers way in advance, so the fact there was no trade for any of the heavy hitting first party studios is quite concerning. I feel like there may be no Sony Santa Monica or Naughty PS5 only game this gen. Which is sad.

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Tacoboto6h ago

It sucks, doesn't it?

And the company that *is* announcing new single-player titles can't manage themselves at all and have both monetization and perception dilemnas they themselves created, problems so severe it puts all the titles they're announcing in a compromised position right out the gate.

Perfect Dark should've been an EASY win for the creative head of the Tomb Raider reboot, but it's in development hell. They cratered Starfield's potential by thinking it was ready for release last September. Hellblade received all the pressure of a AAA title despite being the gaming equivalent of an art film. They closed Tango after HiFi.

Sony has no pressure to change anything about what they're currently doing when the competition became a mockery by its own doing. With PS5 outpacing PS4 and being their most profitable generation so far, the people spending the money are saying they're totally ok with this approach.

Christopher5h ago

Where's. My. First. Party. Support. ?.

just_looken1h ago

@fox 100% agree

Along with that is the new leadership pushing into the "modern" audiance crap now there getting into mobile gaming with no doubt more microtransactions in there games.

As of june 1rst one person Hiroki Totoki,serves as the Chair of Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) and the President, COO, and CFO of Sony Group Corporation.

That is way to much power no checks no real hey that is a bad idea not to mention the work load

https://gamerant.com/playst...

Hotpot29m ago

Funny thing is I feel like the early life of PS5 has more 1st party than the current time. Returnal, demon souls, ratchet n clank, GoW Ragnarok, Forbidden West. Compared to back then it’s practically a barren land now.

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isarai18h ago

This gen just sucks, period. More PS4 games have come out than PS5 exclusives, and we're almost 4yrs in. Then this unwanted GAAS push which is completely tone deaf, and not what their fanbase wanted. Feel like im just watching a childhood friend kill themselves with an addiction.

purple10114h ago

the gas is in ADDITION, to all their other games, thats why they brought more studios,

so the old ones can continue doing what they do best.

Yi-Long10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

The argument 'GAAS is in addition to what we already had' kinda goes out of the window when we can see very clearly a lack of SP offline games, Sony killing studios and IPs left, right and center, and pushing 'always online' in games that never had it and don't need it (Gran Turismo).

You can clearly tell that earlier generations offered far more in terms of diversity/variety of genres, be it Everybody's Golf, Driveclub/Motorstorm, LittleBigPlanet, Modnation Racers, Jak & Daxter, Gravity Rush, Ico, Sly Cooper, Locoroco, Tearaway, whatever.

It feels like they killed off anything that wasn't going to sell massive numbers but did offer something fresh and original and were just 'fun'.

shinoff218310h ago

Imagine if some of those new studios were working on single player games. Sony would have it locked. Instead we get trash.

isarai7h ago

Not really, for a few studios that's literally all they are making, and for others, it being ADDITIONAL is the problem as it is delaying anything else they may be working on, hell ND had to cancel theirs because it was getting in the way.

EazyC6h ago

That's what it looks like now but it is already cannibalizing the other aspects of their brand. These things historically happen slowly, and then all at once...the brand you once knew is unrecognisable

SimpleDad5h ago

That's such a bad narrative. So wrong and we see the end results. No single player games... only Marvel.

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MrBaskerville11h ago

Though, do note that since summer last year, more and more games have been current gen only. Lots of smaller titles, but of bigger stuff there's Baldurs Gate 3, Alan Wake 2, Rise of the Ronin, Dragons Dogma 2, FFRebirth and so on. Being on ps4 only, means you will be missing out on a lot of releases both major and minor.

anast8h ago

Roughly 5 PS5 exclusives have come out, this is a similar drop rate than PS4.

anast5h ago

Through first party releases this gen through may 23: Astro's, Stranding directors Cut, Destruction all stars, GT7, GT7 VR, Miles Morales, Rift Apart, Demon's Souls, Returnal, and Sack Boy. There are more. Some will say well they release some of those on PS4. I say play them on PS4 and then play them on PS5, then tell me it's just as good.

isarai5h ago

Stranding is not 1st party and it's still a ps4 game just with minor additions. Miles Morales is also a ps4 game, gt7 is also a ps4 game, sackboy is also a ps4 game, so you got returnal, demon's souls, and destruction all stars, also Spider-Man 2, so 3 launch window games and one later game exclusive to ps5, with 2 of those by the same studio, In 4yrs,

anast4h ago

They are still PS5 games. When I play some of these that can be played on both systems. One is a PS4 and the other is a PS5 experience, To say otherwise is disingenuous. For some reason, I can't get my Stranding PS5 directors cut to work on my PS4. And I cant get GT7 VR to work on my PS4 either....and so on. Sony first party studios have been releasing close to the same clip as PS4. This is a fact.

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EazyC6h ago

It's making them money but like the M$ thing, Sony is going to start killing their brand over the longer term. Especially now that they're basically running a monopoly.

I plugged in my PS3 recently and it was a mixture of uplifting and depressing. Modern gaming STINKS.

Psychonaut854h ago

Great analogy. They see the Fortnite money and think maybe if they just keep hurling shit at the wall something will stick. Gambling with cumulatively billions of dollar AND people’s livelihoods. AA and indie is the future, unless AAA pulls their head out of their see which is unlikely

ChasterMies2h ago

Everyone is focused on having current gen exclusives as if losing last gen support will magically make games better. Games like Fortnite and GTA V embraced last gen and were huge hits. Switch games like Zelda looked worse than last gen and were huge hits. If this console generation is like any other, we won’t see the best of current gen games until next year.

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Profchaos13h ago

Yeah this 9th generation has been the biggest let down out of every console generation I've experienced since the 8 bit era.

For the first time in near 30 years I feel like Sony has completely abandoned the fanbase that got them to where they are. We see GAAS being shoved down our throats and fun replaced by lootboxes and milking us. This isn't the Sony experience I ever wanted

if I wanted to be exploited I'd play a mobile game

I find the modern line up though just lacks innovation which earlier generation games had in spades we only get what is going to sell big numbers even if the games a single player games it's likely so by the book I feel like I've played it before.

I think the PS2 was likely the golden era for experimental game design everything since that has been game design by bored room

MrBaskerville11h ago

Atleast I think they've pivoted back to singleplayer stuff. But it will take a while. I think they will announce some big game next year, like Ghost Of Tsushima 2 or something. Notice how they showed us Concord and Astro Bot a few months before release. I think the time of knowing what's on the horizon is over.

shinoff218310h ago

Although the lack of 1st party ps5 games only is there. I'm still having a blast. Much more then the ps3 generation.

Storm239h ago

Not me I mean I am having fun, but the PS3 generation was my favorite ever, by far, and man do I miss those times...

EazyC6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

I always feel like these "still having a blast" guys are like people at parties who stay after things get really stale, not realising they're dancing alone in their faeces-stained undies

rippermcrip9h ago

Care to list all the "Sony" GAAS games with all the loot boxes and milking? Aside from Destiny (which already was like that when they bought it), what are you referring to?

fr0sty6h ago

I think they're still recovering from Jim Ryan... in the gaming industry, just firing a guy isn't going to immediately undo all the projects he greenlit to see his myopic GaaS vision come to life, they have to cut some of those projects, and do their best to recoup losses on others... but I do think Sony realized this isn't the way we want to see PlayStation go, which is why he lost his job.

EazyC6h ago

I feel like we haven't even seen anywhere close to the full push yet.

Mark my words. By the end of this generation, it will be game over for ANY semblance of what we loved as videogames, and by extension, the PlayStation brand

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lellkay11h ago

I love my PS5, but these state of plays are 100% not delivering.

VersusDMC10h ago

Granblue relink
FF7 Rebirth
Helldivers 2
Rise of the ronin
Stellar blade
Concord
Astro bot
Silent hill 2

How is this years list not mostly games that a playstation fan would like?

Armyofdarkness10h ago

Great games all, except Rise of the Ronin! It sucks!

FACTUAL evidence9h ago

Sony fans usually just type list out in abundance to make it look good, no matter how crappy. I used to literally laugh out loud back in the ps3 days when people will type out long list of exclusives, and add “Afrika” and also “the last guardian” and “the agent”. Lol The last guardian didn’t even see that generation, and sony fans are still waiting for the agent.

TL;DR ignore the sony list, they just like to name games only on their console no matter the status.

InUrFoxHole8h ago

@Factual evidence
We're eating over here. Keep your fake concern for Sony over there. We're just waiting for the showcase

FACTUAL evidence2h ago

@InUrFoxHole

Fake concern? I’m not even concerned for Sony, I know they could do better. Most importantly the fanboys know they could do better. Not saying sony is doing bad, but just stating the obvious how fanboys thiink they could do no wrong. BTW PS is my console preference so don’t even try to make me look like I’m downing Sony.

InUrFoxHole28m ago

@Factual
I'm messing with you man. I like to troll the trolls here and there.

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thesoftware73010h ago

Versus, I know you have to defend to the end, but dont be dense.

If you read the comments, you can see that people are talking about Sony's first-party output, past innovation, and its usually high-level game output. You posted a list of 3 games that are not out yet: 2 mid games, one Gaas, and 2 paid-for 3rd party exclusives. I do not hate your list, but that is not what people here are talking about.

VersusDMC10h ago

I am replying to the article.

i"s that it feels like it’s abandoned the kinds of software that fans have always valued most."

Sony is making deals for mostly single player games just as it always has.

And the argument that only games made by studios that Sony owns matter is beyond brain dead and i just look at all the games released on a console that isn't on the competitions.

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

The only game on that list that interests me is astro bot and I'm a PS fan since it's inception. Let be honest there's not a lot of amazing games on that list maybe astro bot and helldivers

FF another rpg in a long running franchise selling less and less each entry
Helldivers 2 a fun live service game I got a few hours of enjoyment with friends
Rise of Ronin may aswell play ghost of Tsushima
Stellar blade yeah ok you have to admit this one is beyond niche
Concord amazing cutscenes lackluster Game
Astro bot day 1 I'm so there
Silent hill 2 verdict is still out on this one.
Granblue ok I take stellar blade being niche back granblue I've never heard of

The games your listing here are not all that great outside of astro bot and helldivers.

This is the bare minimum release schedule as far as exclusives I'd expect similar on switch and Xbox really.

VersusDMC10h ago

You'd expect similar on xbox and switch but you aren't getting it. Without looking into it i just think hellblade 2, princess peach and paper mario is the only console exclusives that the competition has released and are selling less than the "niche" games on the playstation side.

Profchaos10h ago

Actually I thought paper Mario sold quite well peach however yeah that was a flop on the switch side of things they kind of have an excuse it's the end of life for that system but they are still getting new games of a good quality.

Yeah Xbox I don't own a Xbox I don't want one especially with their recent flip flopping and basically killing of the brand but there's a good chance they have a new Doom game this year and I've been a room fan since the first game.

hiroyukisanada8h ago

@VersusDMC yes, I own the first four on that list and I have had an absolute blast with them. For those who play a variety of games, they really are fantastic with over 100 hours of gameplay for each title. Granted, only one is a true "blockbuster" like a traditional first party Sony game. Which is Rebirth.
Sounds like the people complaining only want that, which is fine, I guess. Their loss by not choosing all the games on that list 😂
Silent Hill is looking a little rough and not my cup of my tea, but the rest of that list is excellent.

-Foxtrot6h ago

Why is it everytime people talk about Sony's FIRST PARTY STUDIO output the counter argument is posting a bunch of games from third party developers

We're talking about first party and how Sony isn't about trying new things or having variety like past generations.

It's just Sony playing things super safe these days.

VersusDMC6h ago

Why is it that when an article says Software people don't count the THIRD-PARTY exclusives?

The begining of the article mentions the trifecta of announcements of Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Shenmue 3, and The Last Guardian. One third party exclusive , one multiplatform and one first party.

So if the article talks about third party games why are you only mentioning First party?

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Interview: Winifred Phillips Discusses the Wizardry Soundtrack -- Gamerhub UK

The talented music maker discusses her process, challenges and, of course, magic!

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