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Overwatch 2's Phone Requirement: 'It's Like Being Punished For Being Poor'

Blizzard's FPS should be free-to-play, but it keeps propping up barriers to entry.

Jin_Sakai594d ago

It’s just Overwatch with a fresh coat of paint. You’re not missing out by not playing it.

Christopher594d ago

Oh, you hear that everyone, if you liked Overwatch and want to continue playing it with Overwatch 2 since Overwatch was shuttered, you don't need to. He's deemed it not worth playing. So, update your taste profiles and move on to something else. Please stay tuned for future Jin_Sakai-approved game updates.

On topic: This is a new version of what we've evolved into with large patch updates and people who have data caps in their region (even some places in the U.S.). Companies only care about the ones with money, not actually about reaching everyone. Capitalism at its finest. Have money and move to a better area or get left behind.

H9594d ago

He's just saying his opinion, there's no need to act like he is holding a gun over people's heads

Jin_Sakai593d ago

@Christopher

If they’re gonna slap a 2 on it then it should be an entirely new game.

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FPS_D3TH593d ago (Edited 593d ago )

It’s almost as if you’re allowed to post your opinions here… almost

Brazz593d ago (Edited 593d ago )

A bit of an over reaction... Calm down.

Christopher593d ago

***If they’re gonna slap a 2 on it then it should be an entirely new game. ***

I don't disagree with this, but your original comment didn't say this and instead inferred if they played Overwatch they don't need to play the 2nd. Fact is, if they want to play Overwatch, they have to play the 2nd now.

I find it humorous that someone telling everyone to skip a game isn't an overreacting opinion but someone calling out such statements is. Interesting.

Almost like we're all just sharing opinions and all opinions can be judged for how they're presented, including my own. People just decide to label based on which side of the argument they support.

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Michiel1989593d ago

@chris large patch updates? they basically stopped patching the game a looooong time ago. There was no need for an Overwatch 2 at all actually if they just kept updating the game on a regular basis. Maybe make the characters 5 euros each or smthn since it was not sustainable to keep producing content and no1 buying the cosmetic boxes. They were also too generous with people that played enough pretty much being able to get all skins besides a select few that were only purchasable with money. That is the reason they rebranded OW, not cause its a completely new game.

Christopher593d ago

*** large patch updates? they basically stopped patching the game a looooong time ago. There was no need for an Overwatch 2 at all actually if they just kept updating the game on a regular basis.***

I don't disagree with this at all. I only have sympathy for those who liked Overwatch 1 and now only have Overwatch 2 to play. In the end, Blizzard did their fanbase wrong, but it's still a fanbase that likely wants to play the game they like.

Tapani593d ago (Edited 593d ago )

I dunno, we live in the mountains in a town of 20K people in Nagano, Japan, and we have fiber optic 1GB internet which costs us 20 bucks a month. US is a different geoscape, but it's still possible to have a solid internet connection and a good job if you put your mind into it. So do less commenting on forums and more focusing on getting that Overwatch 2 working wherever you are living!

Christopher592d ago

***US is a different geoscape, but it's still possible to have a solid internet connection and a good job if you put your mind into it.***

Not if Comcast has anything to say about it.

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Mobis-New-Nest593d ago

I played 20 minutes of Overwatch 1 and got bored already and stopped, nothing to keep me hocked, Team Fortress 2 is much older and light-years better than Overwatch 1 and 2 in terms of gameplay mechanics, characters and just overall fun.

BlackTar187593d ago

20 mins. That just means you hate actually being part of a team unit and you sucked and never even fulfilled your role. Just kidding about the to suck part.

blackblades593d ago

I'm 100% opposite, spent 1k+ hours and my nephew amongst others. I have a OW hat and every time I go out for the past multiple years I always get "oh nice hat" or "who you main". 20mins isnt enough and 100% likely wasnt competitive or played with good players

franwex594d ago (Edited 594d ago )

Cannot play Overwatch 1-even if you paid for it because it ended. Cannot play overwatch 2 due to having a prepaid phone. Wow.

I make a very decent salary and have a pre paid phone. I know people that are millionaires and have prepaid phones. I also know broke people with phone contracts.

This is dumb. I seriously rather pay $70 to play the game than getting a phone plan to play a free to play game. I rather pay $70 than to give a game company my phone number.

r2oB593d ago

Why not play a different game? Seems like they don't want you to play their game. You should oblige them.

BLAKHOODe593d ago

I prepay. $70/month for mine and my kid's phone through AT&T, which would cost me about $120/month with a contract. We've been prepay for years. No issues using it with Overwatch.

Sephiroushin593d ago

Idk but I havent been in a contract for more than 8 years now, i have the same plan i used to and pay the same, i just buy unlocked phone and put the chip, has no problem either...

Michiel1989593d ago

i have prepaid phone and i can play it just fine. I thought only thing was that the number cant be on more than 1 account unless im missing something?

franwex593d ago

They seem to have updated if you had a blizzard account since June. It looks like the backlash worked.

Michiel1989592d ago

Read a bit more into it an indeed for some countries u had to have a phone contract (by a major provider). Glad they went back on that decision but its still stupid to being with. Preventing cheaters is a thing ofc, but making ur game not easily hackable is also a thing.

I dont even enjoy playing it atm cause i need to wait in que for an hour or so, then play 3 games and get kicked out and im back in que. Terrible launch but what else did i expect from blizzard at this point. As long as people buy their product/mtx they will just botch a game cause money. Its pathetic at this point for a multi billion company. Is it really that hard to get extra servers up for the launch of the game? The moment where you need to grasp your playerbase by the balls so they keep playing.

Owlbert593d ago (Edited 593d ago )

It's to make ppl think twice about cheating...if you're number gets banned because your wall hacking and aimboting then are you going to take out a contract every time you get banned.ps I'm also on a pre paid phone. Rainbow six siege are on about implementing it in ranked.

senorfartcushion593d ago

Shows you how far companies can go if you have annoyed them. It’s not a nice precedent for them to set

BlackDoomAx593d ago

Oh, it's for banning people cheating? Let's see if it pays off.

PapaBop593d ago

I think it's more to address the huge smurf problem of the original.

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HeliosHex593d ago

Personally I think this is over stepping. We already give up much of our privacy. Giving a game company your phone information just to play their game has zero relevance. They claim its to stop cheaters but I don't see how having your number would prevent that. To make matters worse it has to be a major provider. Why? A number is a number. What's next your cable bill? Your lease? Drivers license? Where does it end? It's wrong, it's a breach of privacy and has no place in playing a game. We already register our email and give Microsoft and Sony sensitive info to play on their platform. I'll be damned if I'll be giving that same privilege to a software company too. Honestly blizzard can go F themselves. I won't lose sleep over not playing overwatch 2.

ravinash593d ago

2FA is becoming the standard for secuity on any IT system if you work with company data. More and more companies will require you to have a mobile either as an app or number to call to get you the 2nd authenication. Its just a fact of the world we live in today.
Unfortunatly I can see why they would block pay as you go, as they are cheap and anyone getting round the ban could just create a new account that way.
It's not like we're talking about a system that life or death to need access to - No one is making you play the game. If you don't agree then your welcome to go play something else.
If you can think of a better system of stopping people creating new accounts every time their banned, Id love to hear it.

r2oB593d ago

Perhaps do an account, IP, and HWID ban (multiple). Make it harder, expensive for the cheaters, not regular people trying to play your game. What do you think is easier to circumvent, getting a new mobile number via spoofing or buying/spoofing multiple hardware devices.

HeliosHex593d ago

@ravinaah. All ip is traceable even VPN. Once you block the ip in question that person can make all the accounts they want it won't get through a blocked ip. That should be more than adequate.

Getting a phone number from a family plan is not going to help and it won't stop the banned number from being changed to a new one. Furthermore yes many companies request a second back up email or phone number for authentication but that's fine those companies are important and generally have your sensitive info. That doesn't mean everyone especially a game company is entitled to the same thing.

It's just a game it's not that serious. So your right no one is making me play it and frankly it's no bother to me in the slightest. Don't take my opinion on the matter as a gesture of how important it is that i play this kids game because its not. choices are great isn't it? Especially when they say play something else, or this movie is not for you only to find out there's only so many fans you can turn away before your endeavor becomes a flop.

Work on your servers and enhance the tools available to ban cheaters it's that simple. Tell blizzard I said try harder.

Profchaos593d ago

Yes you're right mfa is becoming a mainstay for cyber security however the way blizzard has implanted it here is poor practice and it's well documented that SMS is considerably weak and the worst form of mfa available if blizzard built or leveraged a otp code using a industry standard things would have been fine.

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Let's Be Real, There Is Nothing "Micro" About Microtransactions Anymore

Microtransactions have gotten ridiculously overpriced in recent years, with titles now offering cosmetic skins worth more than some games.

Terry_B16d ago

Yup..this is 100% the sad truth

z2g15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The elephant in the room tho is personal accountability. It’s easy (albeit basic) to blame the big, bad corpo, but microtransactions wouldn’t be where they are if gamers didn’t spend money on them. As it stands the MTs usually make more than the game. Publishers know raising game prices will cause backlash, so they do MTs to compensate. But the adult conversation is consumers determine the success of products with their wallets. So if MTs are a huge thing, it’s because we as consumers told them we like them by giving them a lot of money for them. So if you don’t want them to be a thing, convince your fellow gamers to stop buying them and expect that games will be decently more expensive. You all can disagree all you want, but reality is a bitch, and eventually you have to live in it.

anast15d ago

Trying to convince people is the least realistic thing. If we are trying to be adults, actual action is what changes things not "convincing campaigns" on platforms owned by the people 'you' are going against. It's madness and idealistic.

ApocalypseShadow15d ago

Easier said than done. I've told gamers for years to not buy micro transactions, expensive dlc, etc. Gamers bought it anyway. Didn't fit on a DVD that would have fit on a Blu-ray disc.

I also told some gamers to not pay for online like Xbox Live because it would force the rest of the industry to only offer playing online if you pay for it. Told them not to support a broken console that Red Ringed. To not support Xbox One because Microsoft tried to take away game ownership and how you play your games. To not pay for a console by one manufacturer where a, now 3 trillion worth, didn't make enough games at the level of Nintendo or Sony who are worth less money.

How much of that did you support anyway with your money then go back and read your comment again.

notachance15d ago

yeah that was like telling people not to do drugs or alcohol, these game companies invested a lot of money in researching about how to make people buy MTs, from creating mechanics like loot boxes, purposely make the game grindy, all the way to menu designs and what color and sound effects played when gamers bought MTs.

It was specifically engineered to take advantage of vulnerable and prone to addiction people.

bradfh15d ago

@z2g
People always struggle with issues like drinking, drugs, and gambling. But in games, especially those played by kids, microtransactions are another way companies take advantage of them. It's a problem that needs addressing.

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S2Killinit14d ago

I recommend everyone read this article.

My suggestion is to name these transactions, what they ARE: Hidden-fees.

isarai16d ago

I mean except for the amount of content you're paying for.

Hugodastrevas15d ago

There never was, the only time I paid for a microtransaction was on Blacklight Retribution (PS4) and it was because I enjoyed the game a lot so I felt the devs should get something for all that entertainment (€5 "membership")

-Foxtrot15d ago

The devs wouldn’t get that though, that shit goes straight to the higher ups who do f*** all let’s be honest.

Hugodastrevas15d ago

Probably, but I wasn't as cynical back then and €5 wasn't a big ask to get the guns with grinding instead of renting them, and the game was good (still is on the PS5/4)

CrimsonWing6915d ago (Edited 15d ago )

I couldn’t believe what Blizzard charged for horse armor and cosmetics in Diablo 4…

I remember back in the day when a season pass was $15 and you got everything included in it. Now, I see them at $60 and you still don’t get everything.

CantThinkOfAUsername15d ago

That's just Blizzard. Unlike Bethesda's $0.99 horse armour, Blizzard's first microtransaction, Sparkle Pony, cost $15.

Phoenix7614d ago

Bethesda out did themselves a few years back with 76. They released a Xmas bundle for half price on day of release! So, was meant to sell for only $12 from day 1, but tried to convince everyone it was half price, by marking it at $24!

Shane Kim15d ago

As soon as gaming wasn't deemed nerdy anymore, and reached the casuals this happened. We're smart, but casuals play mobile games and other stuff, and don't really have anything to compare. They think gaming is supposed to be like this and pay for in game purchases.

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Overwatch 2 Season 10 midseason patch brings big updates for Tanks

Tanks are getting some hefty buffs for the Overwatch 2 Season 10 midseason patch. After a lot of community discussion about the role feeling the worst to play for a while, the development team is changing some numbers to make these brutes harder for the enemy team to take advantage of.

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Blizzard Pulled Off One Of Gaming's Biggest Scams, And We Let It Get Away With It

Danish from eXputer: "Blizzard overpromised the PVE elements of Overwatch 2, and then failed to deliver on just about all of them, despite charging money."

franwex31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

No, no, no. Only the people that paid money let them get away with it. There’s no we.

Support Blizzard at your own risk.

Michiel198931d ago

Everyone that I know that used to play overwatch has quit at this point, I don't feel like they got away with it.

PRIMORDUS31d ago

For me the original OW was amazing just for the first 2 yrs after that I had enough. Now I play Paladins from time to time.

Michiel198931d ago

Same for me, it was my favorite game for a good while after it launched and that's coming from someone who doesn't enjoy competitive shooters. I've considered playing Paladins but never bit the bullet, so many good games coming out that it's hard to spare some hours for a competitive game

PRIMORDUS31d ago

So if you just play this POS game without spending a cent Blizzard will not see a profit at all.