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Square Enix has reportedly confirmed it’s ‘looking to sell stakes’ in its studios

From VGC: "Square Enix wants to sell stakes in some of its development studios to “improve capital efficiency”, it’s reported.

The publisher held a conference call on Friday to discuss its most recent financial results, and following the call Japan-based analyst David Gibson took to Twitter to summarise its plans.

According to Gibson, the sale of Crystal Dynamics and Eidos to Embracer Group was phase 1 of Square Enix’s plans, and phase 2 will be “diversification of studio capital structure”."

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shinoff2183641d ago

Come on sony before something stupid happens.

TeamIcoFan641d ago

Microsoft buying them up and making them do nothing but gamepass filler maybe?

HardKnockKid24641d ago

@TeamIcoFan, which games are game pass filler so far?

awiseman640d ago

@TeamIcoFan Sony has its own Gamepads now.

Godmars290640d ago

@awiseman:

Not FF14 by all counts. That's the money maker.

Or looser, if made to give up its own sub, be made exclusive with a showdown or loss of content updates to boot.

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brewin640d ago

@TeamIco

Cut that BS Gamepass filler crap out! Such a false narrative, just stop. Forza and Halo blow Sony's FPS and Racing games out of the water and those are on GP. Theres a ton of both AAA and indie in there. Enough with the trolling. Gamepass so good that Sony had to copy it. I knew the trolls wouldn't stop even after that 🤦🤮

HardKnockKid24640d ago

@Activision, you are trolling right?

Lionsguard640d ago

Aside from Microsoft, the last thing I want to see is Google, Tencent or Apple snatch them whole hog.

SimpleSlave640d ago

Like making Final Fantasy 8 and 9 remakes 10 part each, mayhaps?

Profchaos640d ago (Edited 640d ago )

@brewin as someone who has gamepass and ps plus there's a ton of filler on both services.

Yea there's big games but I'd say its only forza and gear pushing quality releases onto gamepass lately

halo infinite was fairly underwhelming a statement echod by its own community and looking at recent statements from internal devs it seems that many within 343 echo that they just did not get afforded enough time and had to cut the scope short.

infinite was meant to be way bigger and have more environmental differences across the map also many areas of the map were meant to have more content and random encounters like you.would see in something like rdr 2 but shipping the game on 4 console skus and pc I assume made life difficult and next gen hardware the team were not familiar with meant the game.suffered in the end. But hopefully they will drop a decent expansion that meets these original goals since we apparently are not going to see a sequel for 10 years all future halo will build on top of infinite.

For me personally I thought it was a good game but I didn't like the open world all the interior stuff was perfect but after 2 hours of exploring the open world it became a thing to bypass on my way to blow up gate x or find interior y

FinalFantasyFanatic640d ago

I don't think Microsoft can buy them because of the way the Japanese are with company take overs (they like to keep it within the country).

Stanjara640d ago

Like Crash and Spyro gone to Activision, now in Microsoft and dead in future development.

shinoff2183640d ago

Ms buying them is what i meant by something stupid. Ms has bought enough stuff

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Name Last Name641d ago

Seems like they’re not selling everything. Maybe Nomura’s studio but not Creative Business Unit III since it’s a cash cow with FF14 (and 16 soon).

TeamIcoFan641d ago

Yeah, there's no way in hell they're selling the studio in charge of FF14.
Thing's a money printing machine at this point.

darthv72640d ago

I feel it will be Tencent that will buy up the shares.

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DogJosha640d ago

What shares? Did you bother reading what was happening? Part 1 was studio sales, and that is already decided, not something they are looking into. Part 2 is capital management, aka doing stuff like having other companies help fund their non-central studios, aka western studios. That means having them do stuff like joint ventures. Other companies might get some new IP's out of this, but not shares.

F0XHOUND640d ago

Stupid? I don't care who buy them tbh. Be it sony, Microsoft or f$cking Pornhub.... If it means we get solid investment and allow the devs to work on titles like final fantasy (and many others) until they feel its fit for release and not rush them to a deadline (how ea work with bioware) then its gg as far as I'm concerned :) The only slight downside to Microsoft is maybe they don't do too much and just throw titles on to gamepass day 1 for the hype and day/week 1 appeal.

Sephiroushin640d ago

Deadline huh, well MS likes deadline you know, they hate when dev has to delay games and they would just cancel them if a game is on development hell, even if it would be for couple of months, reason why some dev dont deal with them, specially japanese ones like Level 5

Antnee534640d ago

Pornhub should buy a studio maybe Sega and put out normal Games and maybe even adult if they want to dabble into it. But I would lose my shit to see on store shelf super monkey ball made by Sega published by p-hub xD

Profchaos640d ago

Tencent turning then into mobile game

gamer7804640d ago

Lens flares and censorship no thanks. I’d rather them stay independent

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MadLad641d ago (Edited 641d ago )

Stakes.
Not the company.

I don't know why so many are held up on Sony acquiring them.
If Sony wanted them, they would have when the western studios were still there. That has been the focus for Sony for a good long while now.
I think Sony is happy just paying to keep FF off of Xbox. It has worked for them so far.

Name Last Name641d ago (Edited 641d ago )

Depends on how many shares are up for sale. Even if Sony didn’t want them, they want MS (or others) acquiring a big stake in SE even less. At the very least it would mean the end of those exclusivity partnerships.

Vengeance1138641d ago

It was specifically said that Sony had no interest in the western studios. SE got rid of them to please Sony.

kindi_boy640d ago

That's why Sony dissolved Japan Studio you think?

-Foxtrot641d ago (Edited 641d ago )

I’ve thought the same

Getting Tomb Raider and Final Fantasy would have been great for them since people used to associate those franchises to the PS1 where they become even more popular (Tomb Raider I - III & FFVII)

Shane Kim640d ago (Edited 640d ago )

Don't think Sony cares much for tomb raider. It's not the name it used to be and Uncharted is the new king of treasure hunting games since the past 10 years.

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-Foxtrot640d ago (Edited 640d ago )

For you guys mentioning Tomb Raider

Why is it they can't have both Tomb Raider and Uncharted?

Seriously, one is more about shooting / gun fights and the other is more about puzzles or navigating dangerous levels

Sony could have both and cycle the releases so we are not over saturated with just one franchise.

@Sensorchip

" The comments in here are totally off the mark "

He says. acting like he's the only one who REALLY knows what's going on 100%

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TheTony316640d ago

It's specifically said that Sony wasn't interested in their western studios and only wants the japanese side.

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kindi_boy640d ago

People downvotes the only person who actually reads lol, sorry MadLad it's the blind fanboisim.

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gold_drake640d ago

would make alot fo sense for Sony to get stakes, as Final fantasy fans and Nier fans are mainly on playstation consoles.

Exvalos640d ago

Took the words right out of my mouth

jznrpg640d ago (Edited 640d ago )

They already own shares of Square but investing more would make sense for sure .

lelo2play640d ago

Everybody knows by now that Sony are going to acquire Square sooner or later.
Square are just selling out studios and IP's that Sony aren't interested in, before the acquisition.

porkChop640d ago

Sony isn't going to buy them. Square Enix isn't selling their studios and IP, they're only selling stakes or percentages in them. If an acquisition was coming this would never happen. Sony wouldn't buy SE just to share the profits with a bunch of other companies.

anast640d ago

They will produce some of the best gacha games we've ever seen.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast4h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

solideagle3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom1h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff21831h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus231h ago(Edited 1h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

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anast4h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast16m ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim3m ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

Eonjay4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman2h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto1h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA1h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda1h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz14948m ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MrDead3h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson2h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff21831h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus2356m ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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My Trust in Xbox is on Shaky Ground Right Now

The Outerhaven writes: With multiple gaming studios, including Tango Gameworks, closing, the editor-in-chief of The Outerhaven shares his thoughts on the matter.

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rlow116h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Honestly I was looking back and at the launch of the Xbox 1. With Don Matrick at the helm I was disappointed but therevwas something else. That fighting spirit of Xbox at its inception was lost. They stopped innovating, I lost excitement on what the next big new surprise was, because their weren’t any. Not like Halo 2 and Gears launch. You couldn’t really brag about it anymore.
So here we are and corporate MS has ruined what was a beautiful renegade project.

Cacabunga8h ago

Xbox do not give a crap about developers they want publishers to make money for them that is all.

romulus238h ago

Well without developers there's nothing to publish so if that's their plan it's a pretty bad one.

senorfartcushion4h ago

They've not changed. They went from discless trash to live services

shadowhaxor13h ago

For everything that Xbox did, I was hopeful it would turn stuff around. Game Pass was a start, and the release of its upcoming titles was a nice way to return. I mean, I'm not going to say it was perfect, just like I wouldn't say PlayStation is perfect. Neither company is, but when Xbox goes and does this, it makes zero sense. The message of Xbox's plan had already had me frustrated, but I was like, "Maybe they'll fix this mess."

Now... yeah. Not so confident anymore.

Aphrodia13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

That's how you know this is clickbait garbage. If you write about games for a living and didn't know Microsoft is a cancer on the industry until now than you are awful at your job.

hiroyukisanada6h ago

Came here to say exactly that @jznrpg 🤣

XiNatsuDragnel15h ago

Xbox will destroy Activision too and Bethesda will be gone too lol

Chocoburger14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

"Right now"?
But not 11 years ago with the disastrous Xbox One reveal which they NEVER recovered from?
Man are you slow on the uptake.

shadowhaxor13h ago

No, Xbox never recovered, but Game Pass (which you're a fool if you deny the success of it), Xbox Cloud, the acquisitions, the reboot of Perfect Dark (which seems to be in the gutter now), the success of Forza Horizon, Sea of Thieves, and yes, Hi-Fi Rush (FFS).

Denying any sort of improvement only goes to show you don't pay any attention to the entire picture.

Crows9013h ago

I think you missed the part where these things were spread years apart. Theres no consistency

ApocalypseShadow12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Bullshit.

Perfect Dark IP was purchased along with many other games like Halo, Gears, etc. Perfect Dark needs help with Crystal Dynamics just to finish the game. That's pathetic. HiFi Rush was purchased and was probably already coming to PlayStation before the purchase.

If Game Pass was a success, these developers wouldn't be closing their doors. We told gamers it isn't profitable. It does make revenue. But revenue isn't profit. It hasn't changed Microsoft's position in the industry or increased hardware sales. If it did, they would be shouting from the rooftops like their arrogant asses always do.

Anyone can have a cloud service. And Sony's is more successful. It took buying major publishers just to increase their spreadsheet. But Xbox continues to fail even then. By having to place games on their competitors platform while still trying to compete. You don't see Nintendo putting their games on Xbox. And Sony was only forced because they don't own the MLB license. Which was forced behind the scenes by Microsoft to take away Sony's successful game and throw it on game pass to use it against gamers buying it on PlayStation. How is the acquisitions a success if they have to close companies they just bought and make many developers jobless? Are you serious? Unless you call it a success by taking away games from other platforms that made those developers more money. That's ridiculous.

Sea of Thieves took years to fix. How is that a success that you have an unfinished game for years that needs fixing? Games should be complete at launch. Just like Halo was an incomplete game that needed fixing. Forza Horizon is a good game but even that game hasn't improved Microsoft's standing at all.

Denying all that shows that you're not paying attention.

Chevalier12h ago

Success? They missed their own targets 3 years straight, stopped announcing numbers because they're so terrible and it's not profitable. Hence the closing 4 studios. There will be more consolidation too. Just watch the by the books garbage yearly releases too followed by more season passes and shorter games come out

Chocoburger11h ago

I have been paying attention for past 11 years. That's why I made my fully accurate above post.

You're the one who hasn't, thus you made that completely worthless post.

- I don't care about a rental service for mid-tier (or any tier) games.

- I don't care about streaming services, I play on actual hardware.

- What is Perfect Dark at this point? Its just a name trying to have an easy win with nostalgia. The original developers and talent has long been gone once MS bought Rare in 2001. ITS JUST A NAME, nothing more.

-Don't care about Forza Horizon.

- Don't care about Sea of Thieves.

- I am interested in Hi-Fi Rush, but MS killing off Tango has pissed me off, so I don't want to reward them for their B.S. and now its guaranteed that the hard working devs won't see any benefit from me supporting them.

MS has done squat over the past 11 years. Nothing but the embarrassing stink of failure. I know this because I have been paying attention.

StoneTitan9h ago

I never played hi-fi rush, even though I would have loved it from all I can see, but as it never came to playstation... Now it comes to playstation and I have no intention to buy it because they closed the developer and the money will only go to poor phil and his poor suits. Well I mean, what else is there to say.
Gamepass brought them into this position so you would be a fool to see it as a success lol

romulus238h ago

It's also foolish to deny the negatives gamepass is having on the industry as that is part of the entire picture as well.

ocelot071h ago

Gamepass? That is one of the main things that's killing Xbox as a platform imo.

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Skuletor11h ago

Must be getting their news on Microsoft's Internet Explorer

notachance14h ago

I imagine smaller ABK studios like toys for bob and beenox are now feeling uncertain about their futures

LucasRuinedChildhood14h ago

Thankfully Toys for Bob managed to safely separate from Xbox and are independent now.

notachance14h ago

lol I don't know that, thanks for clarifying

TheColbertinator14h ago

Beenox has been in danger for years now with Activision. Microsoft may act more ruthlessly to them unfortunately.

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Hi-fi Rush is too good a game to be shut down

It was announced today that Tango Gameworks, the studio behind Hi-Fi Rush, will be shut down, which casts doubt on the future of the game.

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z2g23h ago

I’m sure the support and franchise will live on due to its success. They may even keep some ppl and roll them into other studios. There are layoffs across the map tho in the game/tech industries in general tho including Sony, Facebook and more. My personal family has been affected by them.

Lightning7723h ago

No excuses for MS. I guess Hi Fi didn't do as well as we all thought. So Much the for fun Little experiences that MS has been wanting games of all sizes. The thing is MS are so predictable this year they say "oh we want to prioritize bigger games." Next year they'll have more shut downs and say oh well these ballooning budgets of AAA blah, blah, blah. Even though a year prior they said they want more bigger games. When are gonna admit MS can't do or won't do gaming right? It's always waiting for this and that. String you along while destroying ppls jobs. Year in and year out.

Cacabunga19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

MS’ aren’t gamers they are businessmen.. they prefer a terrible game that sells and makes money to a great game with potential and can be used to grow a wider fanbase.. a bunch of crooks 🤮

TwoPicklesGood15h ago

Uhh Sony has laid more % of people off than MS…

notachance16h ago

this MS employee goes around every posts about MS studio closure and made deflecting comments in all of them lmao

Kaii22h ago

Yet MS made a company-wide profit of $22 billion.
In my eyes releasing this on gamepass was a double edged sword approach, received extremely well, but didn't hit w.e batshit insane sales target MS had In mind

jznrpg17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Nothing will sell well when they have trained their fanbase to rely on GamePass. (There could be a unicorn every decade or something like that) The price has to go up a lot or more than likely they close a lot of studios to get upkeep way down and have few studios handle all of the IP and still raise gamepass price just not as much as necessary to keep those doors open for all of the devs that created the IPs MS now owns.

Plague-Doctor2714h ago(Edited 13h ago)

The problem is it did seem to hit their targets

https://x.com/aarongreenber...

XiNatsuDragnel22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Hifi is good but Microsoft dislikes risk I guess.

purple10121h ago

have all the people saying m$ buying all those companies, been proved correct yet,

they said more games, more choice, but ended up
less choice, less games, in reality... we were right

Crows9017h ago

It sucks to be right sometimes. Love tango works games with evil within. Also huge fan of prey...if redfall had been a single player story driven title I bet your ass they could've done wonders with freaking vampires.

Asplundh19h ago

They developed the highest rated game Xbox has had as a exclusive in years and they shut them down? Doesn't make much sense.

jznrpg17h ago

Makes sense to me. They still have the IP the studios mean nothing to MS

EazyC9h ago

That just shows how backwards their philosophy is. Studios are the ones creating the magic, you can't just chop and change them on a dime.

TwoPicklesGood15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

It does when it was a nice Indy time that didn’t make money. Unlike you, they think as a business and if the studio made enough money it would have been safe. One of the biggest companies in the world knows not then you, me, or any other random no matter what you abt to believe.

Asplundh14h ago

"Unlike you, they think as a busines"

Yeah a very poorly ran business, the brand has been going down the toilet for over a decade. With all the dumb decision making, it's not suprising why they're going 3rd party.

Plague-Doctor2713h ago(Edited 13h ago)

You can't give your games away for free and then shut down studios when they don't sell. Extremely idiotic thinking

purple1019h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Funny we buy art though, we don’t buy money.

So they should start “thinking” more like creators of art l, rather than creators of money, and as a side bonus, guess what, they might get more money

I get what your saying though, even any scraped some projects recently

Yui_Suzumiya13h ago

I'm pissed about this. I loved Tango Gameworks.

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