Final Fantasy XVI Is in Good Hands

After 2 long years, we finally have a release window for Final Fantasy XVI. But the names behind the title, are probably largely unknown outside of the Final Fantasy XIV bubble. So allow us to introduce you to the team of Final Fantasy XVI and why you should be excited!

[pietro1212]

The talent behind this game is what made me so hyped

[PapaBop]

Same, what has been showcased so far doesn't leave me excited but I have faith in Yoshi P.

[Knightofelemia]

I'll believe it when the game comes out.

[CrimsonWing69]

It certainly looks so!

[-Foxtrot]

That's like saying Cyberpunk was automatically in good hands because the Witcher 3 was amazing and GOTY

Each new project is a a blank slate, always expect the unexpected, not everything is going to be good because the last thing the team did was.

[sinspirit]

Agreed. Not that I wouldn't be excited about a future game from a renowned studio. But, I am already put off by the FF16 trailer. The combat just doesn't seem fun to me and I need to know more of the story. It doesn't seem exciting to me. It just looks like it's trying to be safe.

[VersusDMC]

Combat looks more fun to me but i like action game combat.

And a Final Fantasy game going with a Devil May Cry style combat system is nowhere close to tying to be Safe.

A turn based combat system would be the safest combat system to use.

[pietro1212]

But has Square put a out a game as bad as Cyberpunk was? No they haven’t not even with the likes of FFXIII and XV

[VersusDMC]

They haven't put out a FF game that bad...but they did release Balan, Quiet Man and Left Alive.

[-Foxtrot]

The point isn’t about if it’s broken

It’s about automatically giving a pass on a new game because the last developers game was great. So because FFXIV is great this is automatically going to be? Yeah it shouldn’t work like that.

[DarXyde]

Umm, to a point, I agree.

1. Of course, you must also realize the inverse is true. A terrible game made by a studio doesn't mean the next game will be bad. Even a bad track record doesn't suggest that the next game will be bad.

2. I would say it is moreso a matter of playing to a studio's strengths that matters above all else. In the instance of Cyberpunk, I haven't played it, but my sense is that it's a good game if it wasn't such a buggy mess. A high quality production wrapped in poor testing/optimization. I would also say that CDPR is probably much better at making open world fantasy RPGs than FPS games. I think they're similar to Guerilla in this context; Killzone was never a strong series in my opinion, but they really hit their stride with Horizon. FromSoft made Tenchu which I loved, but they also hit some rough patches until the Souls games, which have been pretty consistent in quality (DS2 is arguably the worst, but was still an enjoyable experience). For that reason, I see it as playing to one's strength. Some studios are far more versatile like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, etc. Others are kind of one trick ponies. So I would say that if the FFXVI team plays to its strengths, it'll be a solid game.

Just my thoughts on the matter.

[BABI-PANGPANG]

@Foxtrot I'm with you on this one.

Kingdom Hearts isn't what it used to be, Final Fantasy XV was very crap compared to what we've seen from vs XIII and like I said in another post about this game I think it just looks very uninspired.

I used to buy every SquareSoft/Enix game without a second thought, now I have the complete opposite.

[GoodGuy09]

Things are looking good. But really, we should all wait til we play it ourselves to tell if it's a good game. Ffs (not including the mmos) been needing a big W in a very long time. The remake of ff7 although good, wasn't anything amazing.
Yoshi-p did amazing with 14 but it doesn't mean they can do amazing with a sp mainline ff game.

[Lahftel]

There is always a chance! But most of the team behind XVI has also worked on FFIX, Tactics and XII. The team definitely has a certain style of game they want to make. Which I would mostly attribute to working with Yasumi Matsuno, after combing through heaps of interviews. Most of them cite him as a massive influence on them.

[Tzuno]

No its not, the game looks very different from final fantasy concept, we need a game that goes back to the roots.

[VersusDMC]

Same was probrably said when 7, 9, 11, 12, 15 was coming out...probably before every one of them comes out.

What does go back to the roots mean? Do you want it to look like Octopath and Triangle Strategy?

[Nebaku]

9? I haven't played it, but wasn't the entire point of it was that it was using concepts and classes from FF's roots?

[pietro1212]

No we don’t. Going back to the roots ignores the change and evolution the series has always been known for. Each FF is different rather they use the AtB system, ATD, etc so going to the roots of things… What exactly is that? It’s been decades since the franchise was just a turn based RPG series.

[Lahftel]

My friend! Square Enix has been making the Bravely Default games for exactly that reason.

[Outlawzz]

Well after 15, the only way to go is up

[jwillj2k4]

I dunno, the fighting looks similar to 15 with a bit of dragon warrior mixed in. Not a good look....

[pietro1212]

It doesn’t resemble 15 aside from it having real time combat so that’s a reach.

[jwillj2k4]

Yes it does, it looks to be another chaotic slop of sponges not reacting to your hits until their counter hits zero. Outside of the summon 1v1s, Mute the sound and watch it again.

[DreadfulHero]

Yeah, totally. Except for the fact that it doesn't look like 15 at all, unless you think every action RPG looks the same? This looks more like newer Devil May Cry games that FF15.

[jwillj2k4]

@DreadfulHero
The enemies are just standing around while the main character goes HAM. Take your blinders off and just look at it LOL

[Nuvem]

Shouldn't this be labelled as opinion?

[oldenjon]

Ngl it looks bad. Reminding me of babylons fall which was was also made by a ‘good’ developer. Mistakes happen

[brewin]

I hope it's a full game and not spilt across 3 or 4 games like FF7 remake. Even though I enjoyed the remake, it's not the full game and it feel like it's going to take forever to get the full experience if it ever gets finished even. It's been way too long for a good SP FF.

[pietro1212]

Each part of FFVII Remake is a full game. I didn’t clock in 40 hrs in just some demo

[Nebaku]

1. It's a 25-30 hour game. It's only 40 if you do the mundane filler side-quests.
2. It has half the content the original PS1 game had in almost every area. Summons, weapons, playable characters, materia, etc..

It's asinine how low the bar is nowadays for some of you.

[brewin]

They took FF7 and remade it in the same way they made FF13. That was lame then and it's lame now. Sure it's more fleshed out than that section in the og FF7, but it's still only the beginning of the FF7 saga no matter how you slice it. I played the og FF7 for months and put over 150 hours into that bitch way back in 97. And it's taking so long for the other parts to come out I would have rather they just waited and released it as what it is: one long ass game! Instead, they broke it into 3 games for what? Money, that's what.

[pietro1212]

nebaku

So the length of a full game? Of course it has half the content, it only covers Midgar. What do you really expect? Are you expecting the whole cast to appear in the beginning when that wasn’t even the case with the original. It’s asinine that you expect the whole cast, summons, material, etc to be in the first part the once again ONLY covers Midgar.

[whitbyfox]

Final Fantasy hasn’t been Final Fantasy since 12.

Hopefully this is a return to proper form.

[Sirk7x]

I'd say since X lol. And even then, IX was still both the pinnacle and swan song of the entire series.

[MehmetAlperTR]

Unless they return turn based battle system.. I will not interest with this series.

[Elda]

More than likely that's not happening.

[pietro1212]

It you paid any attention to the trajectory of the mainline franchise you know that isn’t going to happen

[Dwarrior]

In my opinion, if you take the familiar summons out of the recent trailer, it looks like any other Japanese game. I saw none of the whimsy, none of the quirkiness of FF. It just looks like an expansion for FF14.

Maybe I'm just getting old and inflexible, but I didn't get excited at all.

[pietro1212]

I’ve been playing FF games since 4 came to the U.S as FFII and that trailer screamed Final Fantasy especially if you’re a FF14 fan.

“it just looks like an expansion for FF14”
So, what’s your point? FF14 A Realm Reborn is probably the best thing to happen to Final Fantasy in about a decade.

[shinoff2183]

Ive been playing ff. Since the nes original and ff16 does not scream ff to me. Maybe the setting and stuff but not the actual gameplay. This is an action game aka hack n slash with rpg elements. It screams you gonna be smashing your square button alot.

[BrainSyphoned]

Somebody isn't a ToysRus kid anymore.

[CDbiggen]

I was excited after the first trailer, but I'm somehow less excited after the second. I was expecting a lot of things about the world itself, but it was mainly about the summons. My hope is that the environments live up to amazing concept art and that you have a lot of freedom.

[Hofstaderman]

The combat system was decided on based on the high sales of Final Fantasy XV. For me the decline of the series actually started with 10 that did away with certain staples such as the over world in favor of then modern aspects. I enjoyed FFXV and you had eventual control of your part after the patches. I'm just not keen to play without a party in XVI. This will be the first FF I will not be pre-ordering.

[shinoff2183]

Much on the same page. Even though i enjoyed 10 alot. It definitely changed alot and for me i miss the overworld and othe things it changed.

Little side comment. I am pretty shocked square never came out with a blitzball stand alone game. At one point when i had faith in square and ff i mightve bought it

[Shinox]

OP i need you to pass me some of that copium, because holy shit i've never someone being that optimistic about a bad game design , from the cast this is flop written all over it and Yoshi-P is overrated ,, suck it up buttercup

[DreadfulHero]

Please explain how the team that made this game has "flop" written all over it? Have you actually played the FFXIV expansions? There's nothing bad about this game design unless you abhor action games, because it just looks like an action game ala Devil May Cry. It might not be your cup of tea, buttercup, but there's been nothing shown that point to it being a bad game yet. At all.

[shinoff2183]

@dreadfulhero

Because it doesnt look like a ff game. At all. Setting if anything. The rest of it doesnt. From battles alone

[Lahftel]

The guy directing the combat happens to be responsible for two of my favorite action games of the 2010's. Dragons Dogma alone stands as one of the best action rpgs of the last decade. Just because the combat is fun. And I don't even need to get started on DMCV. And the story and design is by people who've been working on some of the best Final Fantasy games out there.
That and I'm happy that The Last Remnant gets this kinda revival. It deserved better.

[pietro1212]

Bad game design… where?! Yoshi P is overrated.. that’s laughable considering FF14 is the best the franchise is ever been in a long time. Watch it surpass FFIX as the highest rated FF game.

[SDuck]

that play button in the thumbnail to generate clicks though lol

[Flawlessmic]

I have full faith in this team to deliver a top notch FF game.

It might not be what some of us traditonalists want but damm i love the setting, the music and while im yearning for a big budget turn based ff, this looks epic as fuck.

Summons are back in a big way by the looks of it, the last time summoning was so important was ffx which is my fave so its great to see theajority of them juat in this trailer alone.

[CDbiggen]

Based on the second trailer, I'm not as excited, but still quite hopeful. People are undoubtedly cautious not to overhype this game after what happened with XV (which I still think was decent).

[FanboysKiller]

Then why " the worst Ff game ever made " argument still hold to this date ? is it the naivety of the millennials or I'm just getting older ?

[shinoff2183]

Its the younger people. Action sells. Younger people dont have the attention span. For instance a couple guys at the shop i work at. I put them onto dq11. They played over the weekend and came back talking it and praising it and all. Maybe back in november or so. Point is to this day neither beat it or play it anymore. Dq11 is better then ff these days and these guys couldnt finish it due to their attention span imo. Also im not saying all young people but it seems to fit alot of them.

Me personally ill take turn based rpgs any day of the week.

[M3talDiamond]

Would it be such a bad thing if Final Fantasy games went back to having a turn based battle mode? Some of the best FF games were turn based and there is a massive market for turn based RPGs. I noticed that the Final Fantasy games went downhill (with the exception of FF7 remake) when Square made the decision to change FF to action based combat.

[shinoff2183]

Thats exactly it and i still would say ff7 remake would be better turn based. Atleast give us the option turn based or hack n slash square.

Your onto something though. Downhill since 10. Give me the overworld back to please

[M3talDiamond]

I agree a turn based option is an awesome idea

[Snakeeater25]

Feels like damage control after the state of play fiasco

[pietro1212]

The State of play was good what are you talking about?

[Snakeeater25]

All those game will come out in 23
There is Nothing good annonced till then …
Yes yes gow is supposed to release but still no date … so yeah state of play was disappointing

[F0XHOUND]

The best Final Fantasy in the past 10+ years has been without a doubt XIV. And when I say the best "Final Fantasy", I mean literally each expansion since A Realm Reborn in its own right. Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers, and Endwalker have all been more than worthy to be considered as stand alone entries in the saga that each surpass many of the main entries (since 10). So yeah for sure, I'm hyped for XVI for this alone - The trailers so far don't blow me away, I compare with the Witcher, dragon age and many other games that still seem better. But simply due to the team behind it, I'll be shocked if it isn't at the very least a solid game. Also worth nothing, I enjoyed 7 remake a lot and think they have done a great job with this too.