Can Gran Turismo 7 on PS5 compete with modern racing sims?

In a world of Assetto Corsa Competizione, Automobilista 2, and iRacing, can Gran Turismo 7 measure up and stay on course?

[darkrider]

The question isn't that. Can modern racing Sims compete with Gt? For all have seen and heard from Yamauchi gran turismo is a beast of a racing sim and the biggest car rpg ever.

[Charal]

I would agree.
Having played Asseto Corsa with a wheel, and made some real life race driving lessons on rally cars, GT is the game where I have the better felling in term of mass transfert, degressive braking technique and overall car physic vs what i have learn in real life;

Plus, GT as always been a car lover game where you enjoy the experience not only racing, in a refined and relaxed way.
Features like brand museums since Sport is far above any competition for me.

[Bruh]

I think GT offers the best overall experience in terms of car culture things along with good racing physics, however in just racing physics alone its not even in the same ball park as iRacing or Assetto, those are hardcore racing sims, where as GT, especially GT Sport feels more akin to something of a hybrid in between iRacing and the Forzas

[neutralgamer1992]

I don't know why people are always asking these questions as far as console gaming is concerned GT is the best Sim racing out there and it has been that way for a long long time. In business we measure the success of a product by the amount of hype it generates and the amount of money it generates and in both of those aspects GT has outdone is competition by a humongous margin

Biggest Factor GT is a system seller there are people who will buy PlayStation just for GT. And I really like this new approach from Sony where they will do a state of play about a single game and truly have a deep dive because my opinion that is the best way to get the information out and create hype

With the release of next GT imminent we are very close to the series selling over 100 million copies

Should be a lot of fun to play

[n1kki6]

I guess it depends on the target audience. I won't consider GT because it's not on PC where I have a full blow racing rig. Obviously an edge case, and yes I could hook it up to the PS5. But I don't want to silo where I am playing my games. If they released on PC it would undoubtedly pull interest from the sim racing crowd.

That said, console to console, I love GT and it was always my preferred racer until I moved to PC.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

That's not even close to accurate. PC sim racing has always been at the forefront of realism and it shows. Right now gamers can choose from so many state-of-the-art sims (iRacing, rFactor 2, AC/ACC, Automobilista 1/2, RaceRoom, etc.) that have laser scanned tracks, 1-to-1 physics and tire physics as well as realistic weather. GT is one of the best on consoles but it's not in the same class. Now that consoles are getting better and can handle better physics, PC sims are making their way over and going to give GT some competition in the console market. ACC already has last gen and will probably get updates for PS5/Series.

[frostypants]

No racing (or flight) game where you can be competitive with a gamepad will ever truly be a hardcore sim. Doesn't mean it isn't great in its own right.

[Roarke]

Its not sim, its great game, but not racing sim ;)

[purple101]

It will sell twice as much as all those, due to the fact it doesn't need a £2000 PC to tun at its best.

So yes the question is... Hoe can other car based games compete with GT at its low price point compared to others..

This is like saying a Ferrari is better than a fiesta. But yeh.. the ferarri is ¹⁰ times the price.

[Petebloodyonion]

This has nothing with PC gaming versus console gaming since some of the titles listed are on console (they even mentioned GT sports as a pure sim).

[Atticus_finch]

Dude that's not even it. GTs was futures proof and lay down the foundation for weight and feel of the vehicle something that many Sim racer can't even get right. GT7 is stacking even more advance simulation on top of that. At this point the competition is way behind GT. Doesn't matter what PC you have.

[Sgt_Slaughter]

My 500 laptop runs every modern racing sim on (almost max or at max) settings, I don't think you have an understanding of this subject manner if you honestly think it really takes that much of a PC. Plus hardly anyone can get a PS5 if they want to, whereas PC's prebuilt and laptops are readily available as well as heavy discounts on Steam every sale. rFactor 2 was just under $7 with tons of free mods in the workshop, Assetto Corsa was in a Humble Bundle for $12 with other racing games and that title has the most quality mods I've ever seen for a sim.

There's ways to defend GT without making up talking points. Also for GT it's 400/500 (plus tax) for a console + 70 game (plus tax) + 60 annual online charge (plus tax), so it's not nearly as cheap as you're saying. Not to mention much worse wheel compatibility whereas PC has fully functioning wheels dating back to the late 2000s that still work perfectly. Couldn't do that from PS4 onward.

[purple101]

I take all your points.

They are good points.

I disagree with a £500 laptop could run games on max (with 60fps) I know you didn't mention the 60fps so maybe you play at 30?) Or maybe you can because those games are less taxing than a full blown AAA open world game ? Because a cheap laptop wouldn't run those types of games for that cheap.

I haven't gamed on PC myself since the original Ms flight sim & quake 3 arena! (I'm 35 now)

But yes very good points. I forgot to mention you need to pay for ps+ and on PC you don't.

[TheLigX]

GT7 will 10000% find its way to PC. The PC sim market is sizable and sony will want a piece of that pie.

[Extermin8or3_]

Possible but not at all set in stone. Polyphony digital are meticulous with their work and may not want another studio handling a pc port. If they have the resources to port gt7 to pc, continue to support gt7 with new content the way they have gt sport and start their next project is questionable.

[Gardenia]

I have bought all GT games since back in the PS1 days. Back in the day it was the closest a to a sim a race game could be, but now with other sims like iRacing it is clear that Gran Turismo isn't really a sim, it's a semi sim racing game.
Anyone saying that GT is a true racing sim is just a fanboy. I'm saying this as a fan of the GT series, with thousands of hours in 25 years.

[Flawlessmic]

Its so much a semi sim that it has FIA u know the actua racing governing body as a partner and its best drivers compete in real racing catergories and the lap times are almost bang on what they would be in real life.

Not to shabby for a semi sim.

[Bathyj]

I'm semi aroused.

[Dfooster]

Assetto corsas physics are a league above gt sport, but that's not to say both can't exist in their own eco-system. You really need a wheel with assetto corsa because it's feedback is so good you are correcting oversteer subconsciously before you visually see it so good are the physics and force feedback. Wheras in gt sport the physics are designed primiraly to be played with a gamepad, so how far can they go and still keep it playable on a pad is definitely a factor in why gt is a semi sim and not a full blown sim.

[Imalwaysright]

Marketing deals means absolutely nothing to the merits or lack of merits of GT and its best "drivers" get actual training before getting in real races. If anyone thinks that being good at playing GT or any other racing game/sim in existance qualifies them as being real racing drivers is completely delusional.

[SniperControl]

@imawaysright

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

[Imalwaysright]

SniperControl

"Polyphony Digital, teamed up with Sony and Nissan to create GT Academy, a competition within the Gran Turismo games that gives winners a chance to become real racing drivers. The contest starts with a series of time trial events in the game, with the winners flown to Silverstone in England to take part in a reality TV show and racing driver bootcamp"

I didn't need confirmation for what I said but it's appreciated anyway.

[Vengeance1138]

You need more hours in GT then, doesn't look like you understand GT at all. It truly is THE real driving simulator. Nothing comes closer.

[EvertonFC]

FIA?

[one2thr]

The FIA is the governing body of motor sport and promotes safe, sustainable and accessible mobility for all road users across the world.

https://www.fia.com

[Atticus_finch]

Iracing is no doubt GT closest competitor but still not enough.

[MaximusPrime_]

Gran Turismo has been around longer than any other racing simulation games. The way I see it, it doesn't need to compete.

Gran Turismo is a veteran and still deliver.

Recent State of Play demonstration shown how much love and time it takes to build Gran Turismo 7. I'm sure there are lots of happy fans of this franchise and no doubt Forza, Assetto Corsa Competizione, Project Cars etc., fans will be impressed. There are no need for rivals. The fanboys "wars" are long gone in the past, possibly there are still those refused to give up their pointless fight.

[Bathyj]

B"t(h please

[senorfartcushion]

These replies just make people sound like they haven’t read the article, but are instead replying to the headline.

[Bathyj]

Yep that's what I did.
Why would I read an article with a headline like that?

[Atticus_finch]

The headline is stupid and is asking the wrong question. Why waste time reading it.

[thorstein]

Stupid headlines looking for clicks means I won't click. Simple as that.

[senorfartcushion]

It doesn’t mean that you have an excuse not to read.

It doesn’t have to be any crap articles either; a book will do. Read more.

[RedDevils]

My guess is you're the author of this very stupid article?

[thorstein]

"Read more."

Wow. You don't understand that the very act of reading increases people's ability to think critically. Thinking critically allows us to separate the wheat from the chaff. Those who read a headline that is clearly clickbait (aka yellow journalism and sensationalism) have already made the critical analysis needed to determine that the material is not worth their time.

"Read more." You don't know anything about the people commenting here and you proclaim that you are the gatekeeper of who should and should not "read more." Astounding.

[senorfartcushion]

Thorstein

Lol no. People just need basic literacy more than ever, especially on social media sites and comment sections like this.

You’re forgetting about the entire universe of critical thinking that awaits by being used to deconstructing articles you do not approve of.

But obviously you were never going to remember that part as you’re currently making excuses for people not to read. Trying to make excuses for yourself too by the sounds of it. 😅😅😅
28517;

Lazy and embarrassing really

[thorstein]

Again with the assumptions about what other people do or say or are. Should have figured you're just a troll.

[talocaca]

The actual question is: Does it have to compete with modern racing sims?

Gran Turismo has always been for car enthusiasts and that remains with GT7.

The attention to detail, the car museum and interviews with the designers, the photo mode....

[Terry_B]

That question is..hilarious.

[UltimateRacer]

It’s the most accessible sim on the market, that’s why GT is so successful, easy to play, hard to master.

[purple101]

Very sensible comment.

And to that I have pre ordered. Can't wait for this to drop in price it's too good. And usually gets free updates so might as well ...

[UltimateRacer]

Nice I also have it preordered, 25th anniversary edition. Yes car and tracks will be added in future updates as was confirmed by Kaz in the state of play.

[Father__Merrin]

Gt7 is way more featurepacked than the ones mentioned. And the best thing about it it's an enjoyable game for everyone

[Brazz]

Based on what i saw on GT7 so far, i think writer mixed things here...
The true question is:
Can other modern racing sims compete with Gran Turismo 7 on PS5?

[strifeblade]

Lol

[moriarty1889]

GT is on a different level.

[SullysCigar]

Lol this is just vg247 being vg247. Any true racing fan knows GT is arguably the best there is, but even then, it's fine to own GT7 AND others to satiate your driving thirst.

I'll be grabbing it day one. It's clearly a return to form and a genuine passion project.

[BrainSyphoned]

They will no longer be considered modern on March 4th.

[Petebloodyonion]

Saying that the game will be accessible to newcomers does not automatically means that it will become an arcade driving experience like Forza Horizon.

It's quite possible to add some assist options for newcomers while rewarding the ppl that don't use them or removing the uses as you progress in the game.

[strifeblade]

30fps mode is concerning.

[AmUnRa]

It would be but there is a 60fps mode if you dont care for RT, i dont care much for RT during racing, but i do care about 60fps during the race.

[strifeblade]

@Amunra
30fps mode compromises the simulation it's supposed to portray. At 30fps the game will play differently. There are so many physics going on, that for the sake to be prettier, I think they will turn some of it off. I read about how important it is for car sims to be 60fps. My two cents

[BigBosss]

Unlike other racing games, there is just something special about the Gran Turismo series.

[Atticus_finch]

Everything infact. The game is a piece of art. Even the menus are unmatched.

[strifeblade]

Gran turismo games have been getting panned for the last few in the series

[Flewid638]

Can the godfather of racing sims compete with modern racing sims? Bruh...

[EvertonFC]

What a stupid headline

[Silly gameAr]

Yeah, it is. That's why I didn't even want to give it attention.

[metalgod88]

Simply put, Gran Turismo has always been racing game that other games tried to compete with. And with what I've seen so far with GT7, they really really stepped up their game. So yeah, good luck to the competitors out there.

[DaniMacYo]

The King is back!

[Atticus_finch]

They never left. GTs is amazing.

[thorstein]

Can modern racing sim compete with modern racing sims? And what about multimillion selling games? Can they compete with multimillion selling games?

Next up: the Sun, can it compete with the sun?

[Orchard]

Not without a proper damage model.

[DFresh]

Considering real race car drivers train on Gran Turismo and give feedback to Poly Digital I would say definitely they can compete.
GT7 is a 10+ million seller no doubt.

[WillyC009]

I’m sorry what? Who comes up with these click bait titles? The only question that needs to be asked is can other sim racers compete with GT?

I’ll save everyone the trouble, that’s a NO.

[glenn1979]

yes they can that's just a silly question

[TheLigX]

What kind of stupid question is this?

[frostypants]

GT isn't as hardcore as those. But what GT has mastered above others is car collecting and the whole package surrounding it. And the racing in GT is still very good. I love iRacing, but iRacing is 110% about the racing and the car selection is comparatively sparse. It's a totally different, more high strung scene (you also have to use your real name and everyone sees it, so trolling is r driving badly is a bad idea). I can play GT to relax OR be competitive.

[MegaLogic]

It will blow the doors off anything currently on the market, period!

[esherwood]

I’m an Xbox guy and hate forza. Sucks because everyone loves it so there’s not many other racers coming out. I like starting with a bad car and slowly upgrading it. There was a game on sets Dreamcast I forget where u just went around the same track challenging people to street races and upgrading ur car. Loved it