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What happened to Arena Shooters?

What ever happened to arena shooters? We delve into the rich history of this beloved gaming subgenre, how its survived over the years, and what arena shooters look like in 2022.

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Mr_Writer85838d ago

I'd look at COD before BR.

Locking weapons and perks behind a level system.

BenRC01838d ago

Cod killed them. Tbh when cod came along, especially mw2, its was a game changer. Adding rpg elements and scorestreaks rather than just a scoreboard was very cool at the time.

Mr_Writer85838d ago

@ben

I have and always will dislike COD, they made it about time spent rather than skill.

If you're better than me in at level 1 it's down to skill. But if you don't play and only get to level 3 and I get to (just say 300) chances are my guns and perks etc I will kill you more than you kill me.

Overwatch is a good example of a game that does require skill. I have 800+ hours on that game, but some players in that game are unreal.

And you know it's down to skill as you have pretty much the same characters etc.

isarai838d ago

Also any new ones will instantly get compared to Overwatch. Which sucks cause i miss old school arcade shooters with cool characters to choose from.

fr0sty838d ago (Edited 838d ago )

I miss Unreal Tournament 2004's ultra fast paced action... nothing since has really come close to capturing it. Going on sprees never felt more satisfying. A modern day version of that would be amazing.

DigitalDaniel838d ago

Halo says "Hi".
Arena shooters are not dead.

ChubbyBlade838d ago

Infinites player base is dropping like flies because of a lack of content.

Sonyslave3838d ago

Key word lack of content not because it a arena shooter .

And it doing just fine on Xbox

Mr_Writer85838d ago

"lack of content"

Maybe if gamers didn't have the attention span of a small child.

The game hasn't even been out long. And they need new maps and weapons already?

No wonder games as a service is a thing.

ChubbyBlade838d ago

Seems both people below me don’t know how to read.

Never said the lack of content was because it’s an arena shooter nor did I say new maps or weapons.

The game has less than 1/2 of the game modes from past titles the previous ones would launch with.

There’s very little vehicle centric options and the way they spawn in makes them appear less often.

The unlocks are abysmal compared to previous titles leaving nothing to earn or work towards for those who care about that sort of thing.

Been playing since CE in 2001. Not one of these “attention span” problem gamers you’re speaking of. The game literally lacks legacy game modes and vehicle play isn’t very good.

spicelicka838d ago

lmao it's barely been out for a month, it has more than enough content for release. Far more than most games these days.

MadLad838d ago

I'll let you know when I have a hard time finding a match.

The game is as far from dead as dead can be. Not sure why you're trying to make it out to be anything other than that.

LucasRuinedChildhood838d ago (Edited 838d ago )

@Mr_Writer85

"Maybe if gamers didn't have the attention span of a small child."
Mate, you're the one who needs to pay attention. It's missing loads of modes (although they did add a few back in), no Forge, and barely has a progression system,

"No wonder games as a service is a thing."
You're actually defending a big issue with games as a service (less content for more money) and thinking you're clever.

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Mr_cheese838d ago

Wouldn't mind a new Unreal Tournament to go with UE5

RaidenBlack838d ago

^^ this + competing with it, a new Quake to go with future idTech 8

LordoftheCritics838d ago (Edited 838d ago )

Devs stopped innovating on them.

Overwatch is the last innovation that has some of that vibe.

PapaBop832d ago

Agreed, you can tell Kaplan and co loved playing shooters back in the arena golden days and Overwatch is a much better game because of it. Still my go to shooter and only other shooters I've put this much time in are Quake 3 and CS.

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The Best Multiplayer Xbox Game Pass Games to Play With Friends

Xbox Game Pass has some great single-player experiences, but nowadays, it's all about getting together with friends and family. Thankfully, there's a surprisingly extensive library of multiplayer titles on Game Pass to bring everyone together.

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Desperate Xbox players turn to Halo Forge for their Helldivers 2 fix

PS5-exclusive Helldivers 2 is so popular that Xbox players want a taste of democracy, and now Halo Forge will be the battleground for a Helldivers 2 remake.

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XiNatsuDragnel64d ago

That's wild but hey if forge satisfies than that's good

GamerRN63d ago

Also.... Desperate Xbox players? I mean Helldivers2 looks ok, but I wouldn't call it anything to get desperate over..

God of War and the other exclusive are more worth desperation. I don't think I'm gonna even try Helldivers2, in still trying to beat Forbidden West, and I still of Ghosts, Ragnarok and TLOU2 to play

Old McGroin63d ago

Helldivers 2 is a phenomenally good game. You should definitely check it out if you get the chance. Looks like the devs have the server capacity issue pretty much sewn up now so it's a good time to jump in.

WolfSeed63d ago

You clearly haven't tried it. It's pure crack.

MrNinosan63d ago

I thought exactly like you, until I tried Helldivers 2... and then I was hooked.
The only thing that will stop me from playing it going forward is Final Fantasy VII Rebirth next week.

1Victor63d ago

@gamer: “Also.... Desperate Xbox players? I mean Helldivers2 looks ok”

Lest be honest for a minute even Phil want it on Xbox and if it wasn’t desperation the forge player wouldn’t be trying to copy it 🤷🏿

Barlos63d ago

Nobody is desperate over a game. Its pure clickbait.

TwoPicklesGood62d ago

I enjoy Helldivers 2 but it isn’t phenomenal or anything, its just a good game. Sure us ps5 players don’t have many multiplayer games so maybe that skews perspective. What we should be worrying about Is all the bugs and issues that STILL plague the game. It shouldn’t have been released in this state.

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Hereandthere63d ago

Helldivers 2 graphically makes halo on series x look 2 gen behind.

Rdeal62d ago

Are you saying Helldivers 2 graphics are better than Halo's? if so you need glasses , graphics has to be the worst part of Helldivers 2, I have seen better on the PS4

Hypertension14062d ago (Edited 62d ago )

@Rdeal

It's not the best looking game around
but the graphics definitely look better than halo infinite. The destruction on display while also maintaining a steady performance is also very impressive.

I've also seen better on PS4, but I say the same for almost every Xbox Series X game this generation.

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Kiryu199263d ago

Why desperate Xbox fans? Why are we so split as a gaming community? So gamers wanting to play awesome games are not labeled desperate?

DarXyde62d ago

I don't think it's really unusual.

LittleBigPlanet allowed for that.

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Jin_Sakai64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Just get a PS5 and be done with it. Four Xbox exclusives are making their way over with more to follow down the road.

343_Guilty_Spark63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

When is Halo Infinite coming?

Hellblade 2 coming?

Jin_Sakai63d ago

Soon enough.

Phil Spencer: “The biggest games will be more than just one platform“

https://x.com/xbox/status/1...

VincentVanBro63d ago

Neither of those are worth an entire console so who cares?

DazaMc63d ago

Anytime now, who knows.

MrNinosan63d ago

Probably within a year, but don't worry. They will still be available on the box of your choice, except if Switch is your choice.

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babadivad63d ago

Or just play it on your PC...

InUrFoxHole62d ago

Why get either console? All are coming to pc anyway

Shane Kim62d ago

If it wasn't for the initial cost, then I would never get a console.

InUrFoxHole62d ago

Honestly pc is great but I love the convenience of a console

OptimusDK62d ago

You couldn’t help yourself right Jin

Jin_Sakai62d ago

I just couldn’t help but tell the reality of the situation.

goldwyncq62d ago

Or just get a PC because all Xbox and PS games are coming to it sooner or later. Nintendo's the only company practicing true exclusivity nowadays.

Tedakin62d ago

Sony's present said first party games will be on pc and other platforms too. So what? And before you say he just meant "pc and playstation" that was debunked. Day 1 pc is definitely coming from Sony, ending your precious exclusives.

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Neonridr64d ago

I remember the good old days of Halo 3 and the Forge. Some wild game games came from it.

RaidenBlack64d ago

Just let Coalition develop or at least assist in developing the next Halo ... 343 alone is not enough

Jin_Sakai63d ago

They already assisted with development.

“Gears of War studio The Coalition helped out with Halo Infinite”

https://www.vg247.com/gears...

RaidenBlack63d ago

Then lead the next Halo development with 343 assisting instead ... as well as leverage some of the other new acquired studios if possible

neomahi62d ago

That would be smart, but makes too much sense. BUT, The Coalition is pretty much dead, without Rod Ferguson, there's nothing there. That was the point of that team was that he was heading it up but even Rod Ferguson turned down being the boss and head of his own studio making Microsoft money to go to Blizzard, and isn't it ironic, look where's he's at now. Cliff Blezinski offered to go back to work on Gears and Xbox (one of their biggest IPs) shut him down and told him no. Gears put Xbox on the map, and they told him no. Sony wouldn't tell David Jaffe no if he asked to return to God of War or Twisted Metal, Jaffe is just to lazy, but Xbox shut down Blezinski, completely shocked me.

So, you're right, kinda, but that blood isn't there anymore, the soul of that team is gone so I don't think you'd get the quality you think that you would

Jin_Sakai62d ago

“Then lead the next Halo development with 343 assisting instead ... as well as leverage some of the other new acquired studios if possible“

Certain Affinity would be good but who knows what’s happening there. And I’d suggest keeping CoD studios away from the franchise unless you want Halo of Duty.

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PhillyDonJawn63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

Halo Infinite forge is a million times better. maps don't even look like forge made but look like actual dev created maps now

Neonridr63d ago

oh I bet, I just have fond memories of all the different things people came up with. I can only imagine what it's like now.

PhillyDonJawn63d ago

Hell yeah I remember the forge map toilet 😂 good times. Poo and paper everywhere

Blad3runner0064d ago

Don't get this mentality. Nothing is stopping these people from buying a PS5

I don't get fanboyism and refusing to purchase a competitors console.

purple10164d ago

I didn't used to get it, when is was Sega vs Nintendo, but now companies charging for online play, I dont wan to pay 2 separate subs, so you make a choice. also if you were to say invest in extra controllers for mates or whatever, I suppose it all adds up

anast63d ago

So, PS5 is the choice, right?

PhillyDonJawn63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

You're thinking too much into it. Forge creators make anything and everything. This is nothing new. Call of duty and other games have been made in halo forge as well. I was just playing Nuketown and hot potato 2 weeks ago lol (hot potato fun asf btw)

PaleMoonDeath63d ago

Not everyone can afford it mate, some have kids, families etc to support. Very close minded statement, adults don't necessarily care which machine, but money's tight nowadays, bring them Helldivers so we can get the damn Halo & Gears armour on PS5 lol

EvertonFC63d ago

I wanna see helgeist, scorpions, crimera, flying sting rays even some knack enemies etc

PaleMoonDeath63d ago

@Everton, DUDE! KILLZONE 2 HELGHAST SKINS! COULD YOU IMAGINE

Charlieboy33363d ago

They hate Playstation to the point of insanity....yet want a Playstation game on Xbox so bad. These people don't even make sense in their OWN minds...

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EvertonFC62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

Agreed fella, same can be said for the playstation lot too though lol. We would all be over a gears collection, halo collection, Forza and ori

DivineHand12563d ago

I hope all the persons who agreed with you have an Xbox. Being a multi-console owner is the best thing for a gamer. When Palworld came out I could boot up the Xbox and play it there. I also just started playing Helldivers 2 yesterday and I am having a great time with it.

The gunplay is good so persons who are on the fence for this reason, don't be. The gunplay in this can go up against Halo, Destiny, The Division 2 etc. The gameplay loop is also good with a reasonable progression system. It doesn't have any RPG mechanics so don't expect to see numbers popping up when you shoot an enemy. Progression in this game allows you to unlock cosmetics, weapons and air drops from orbit to aid you on your mission.

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anast63d ago

HA! All the while Xbox games are popping up in PS stores. To be honest, on day exclusivity will probably be gone and each will just provide a streaming service bundle, but why not have fun while we can.

crazyCoconuts63d ago

And to get you to pick one streaming service over another they would have....

anast63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

You do know how to ask direct questions, right? This is a serious question.

They would have different app features, different UI's, timed exclusivity, and different video game series (live action and animation). Also the streaming services would be tied to mobile phones of choice (Sony vs MS; maybe even Nintendo will get in on this, phone thing.) which have their own reasons for purchasing.

Of course this is in the distant future. They don't call me the Oracle for no reason.

crazyCoconuts63d ago

Exclusives... The answer was exclusives.
But, you being the Oracle you already knew that, didn't you?

anast63d ago

"one day exclusivity will probably be gone"

Yes. I am the Oracle. When this happens you can say I am right.

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Grab these awesome Halo Infinite Silver Team helmets before they go

Celebrate season two of the TV series by earning the awesome and exclusive Halo Infinite Silver Team helmets before they’re gone for good on Xbox.

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Gaming4Life198186d ago

Nice just doing the weekly challenges will get these.

1UP-Words86d ago

Yeah it's certainly a relief that they're not too hard to earn because they look good! With Seasons now done, we're getting less free armor than usual so it's something