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Why Pereira and Sessler are Both Wrong

No, this isn't some fanboy rant about which game was neglected. This is about discussing games the way they deserve to be discussed.

TGR's Andrew Groen writes: "If there is, in fact, a correct answer to this debate, as Sessler and Periera would have you believe, then gaming is not art. There is no such thing as an indisputable "best work of art." However, there is a true answer to what is the best operating system (depending on your needs) or the best internet browser, in terms of features and capabilities. If we're going to talk about a true answer to which is the best game then we are boiling video games down to basic pieces of software."

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cain1415616d ago

The author makes some strong points here.

WANNA GET HIGH5616d ago

Y should u care who wins GOTY.Just play the game u want.N4G is not how it use to be back in the day.Nowadays we just have fan boys with multiple accounts that spam and post sh1t if a game gets a low review score.That is there opinion of giving fable2 game of the year so just deal with it.

cain1415616d ago (Edited 5616d ago )

@1.1

Did you even read the article?

Viewtiful5616d ago

lol Not only did he not read the article, he didn't even read the synopsis.

prowiew5616d ago

Don't the author knows that this was on g4tv? Especially on Attack of the Show, an entertaintment show?

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ThePimpOfSound5616d ago

Of course, to make claims like this is to call the "Game of the Year" concept into question as well, as it intrinsically implies that you're wrong if you disagree.

Really, though, this is a way to attract attention, so hopefully it will lead to a greater discourse of the games in question and not petty name calling between two colleagues.

That'd just be wrong.

Viewtiful5616d ago

I see what you did there at the end...clever lol.

SirLarr5616d ago

Isn't that whole article just common sense?

Viewtiful5616d ago

Clearly it's not since some of the most prominent people in the industry don't seem to understand.

Bnet3435616d ago

Of course this is common sense. You can't be wrong about an opinion, it makes no sense. This is the same thing as people complaining about a review score.

MasterBlaster5616d ago

Ok then lets say my opinion is that Too Human is GOTY.... I would be wrong. That would make my opinion wrong.

Nathan Drake5616d ago

Sorry,you gave it GOTY because Molyneux gave your publication a f*cking exclusive on his upcoming projects,you KNOW that it doesn't deserve it GOTY since there are much better Ps3,Xbox 360,Wii,and PC games that came out in 2008 that absolutely run laps around Fable 2 in every aspect-Gameplaywise,Graphicwis e,Musicwise,Onlinewise,etc.

GiantEnemyCrab5616d ago (Edited 5616d ago )

Oh big surprise. Nathan Drake avatar is the dead giveaway. Another PS3 supporter claiming a conspiracy and pay off.

Unless you can provide some kind of proof give it up.

Fable 2 is well deserving of GOTY. My guess is you have never even played the game. Excellent gameplay, excellent story, excellent soundtrack and while it may not be the first choice in some gamers minds it has all the makings of a game that deserves the honor.

IN MY OPINION! <- important thing to add and something you should of said in your post.

So Easy I Can Do It5616d ago

You know Fable 2 isn't GOTY quality.
And lets not point fingers at who's the fanboy cause three of your is pointing back at you.

Gears 2 should be GOTY instead of Fable 2 no doubt.

austere5616d ago

wrong. Having played all the big games out that are deserving of GOTY....

MGS4 takes it hands down, no doubt in my mind and I don't see how anyone could see otherwise. It is a masterpiece. Gears was great but no where near as lasting in your mind once you are done with it like MGS4 is. Sad that Dead Space got completely shut out when it was so amazing.

Still...it's MGS4 all the way.

ReTarDedFisHy5616d ago

MGS4 wins so hard, I'm not even going to explain why.

krauley5616d ago

and then vote in december, what game are you gonna think about and remember more of......?

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iTZKooPA5616d ago

I just hope that we don't all become snobs...

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies3d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken3d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing694d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker4d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing693d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt3d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken3d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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Now is the Best Time to Get This Incredible RPG Bundle on Steam

If you are looking for an awesome RPG, look no further. Steam is offering a significant discount on its Fallout Franchise Bundle.

SimpleSlave4d ago

"You can get all Fallout games in a bundle at a significant 20% discount on Steam. Individually, all these games add up to $244.91. With the discount, you can get them all for $195.91. That is $49 less than the original price. Quite a significant discount for such a popular franchise."

😊 😂 🤣 😐 - But why?

Just wait for a sale and get most if not all of it for a fraction of that price.

20% off...lol

Tacoboto4d ago

The games were just on a real sale over the last week or two for the show promotion. Fallout 4 was $10, 3 was $5, NV was cheap as heck too.

So what the heck is this

Inverno4d ago

The original games have been given out for free by Amazon for GOG and Epic, 76 is free now on Amazon if you have prime, Epic has also given out new Vegas for free and 4 has gone down to pretty cheap prices. 194 bucks is a total ripoff when you can get these games individually for less. Don't forget cd keys might sell em for a dollar less at times too. Come on man, us cheapskates won't touch anything near or above 100 lolz

isarai4d ago

Bro that's a ridiculous ripoff are you kidding me? 🤣

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Fallout 3's Reveal Led To Death Threats And Bethesda's First Security Guard

The artist behind Fallout 4’s Deathclaw reveals just how bad things got back when Bethesda took over the series

anast5d ago

People are stupid I get it. No one should feel unsafe,

But I think they need to talk about why they cut so many corners during the development process and why none of their games ever look current. And why they think all of this is okay while they charge full price.

LucasRuinedChildhood5d ago

As much as Bethesda deserve criticism, that's not really relevant to the reveal of Fallout 3 in 2007.

VenomUK5d ago

The default angle Kotaku always go for is to highlight the worst in gaming.

I would’ve focused on the creative.

anast4d ago

The game went downhill at Fallout 3's release. This is when they started to cut corners.

gold_drake5d ago

there is no "but". the hell lol
you dont send death threats, period.

anast4d ago

Usually, you have good comments but this isn't one of them. It just rides the mob. We can do both condemn the actions and not let them use it for other things.

I can say I received a death threat and everyone needs to shut up. People are not honest and will use horrible things to their advantage.

Armaggedon5d ago

Not all games “look” current.

anast4d ago

Their games always look like the gen before it.

Armaggedon4d ago

Yeah, but thats not the result of laziness, incompetence, or a bad engine. Thats what happens with their type of open world games. Its hard for people to find a point of comparison because no one makes games like Bethesda does.

gold_drake4d ago

mh ok thanks, i still think ur wrong in this mate.

anast4d ago

No problem. I'm not here to convince you. I'm only stating an actuality. What your words do if we look at them like events.

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