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Phil Spencer Confirms That The Elder Scrolls 6 Won't Release Until after Fable

Xbox head Phil Spencer confirms The Elder Scrolls 6 won't release until after Playground Games Fable, hinting at a post-2023 release date.

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phoenixwing1010d ago

That's one long wait. Hopefully avowed comes out sooner to lighten the blow.

porkChop1010d ago

Avowed and Fable are likely 2023, Outer Worlds 2 is probably 2022.

lelo2play1010d ago

There are rumors (since 2017-2018) that Playground has been working on Fable.
Fable could release in 2022.

neutralgamer19921010d ago

Chop

No way is outer worlds 2 in 2022. The developers themselves said game isn't even ready so I doubt in a year and a half it gets done

Brazz1010d ago

MS big game for 2022 is starfield, Avowed, fable, OW2 are 2023 and beyond.

Ashunderfire861010d ago

Let me remind you of the trailer we all saw 2 months ago.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

DOMination-1010d ago

Nonsense. This is the most realistic schedule:

Fable - 2023
Avowed - 2024
Outer Worlds 2 - 2025
ES6 - 2026

ES6 is still in the writing/pre-production stage, and won't go into full production until Starfield is out, updated and possibly even had some DLC released. It's a really long way off yet.

NeoGamer2321009d ago (Edited 1009d ago )

@neutralgamer1992
Yes. When a game hasn't even entered production yet and it is AAA, then it is at least 2-3 years away. Games in production are 1-2 years away. And games being tested and showing full gameplay are usually within the year.

Games today are big efforts like movies. They don't just magically appear in a few months.

I would guess fable in2023, elder scrolls Vi in 2024 and avowed around 2025 and outer worlds 2 around 2026

porkChop1009d ago

Relax, guys. It was just a very unfortunate typo. I meant to say that OW2 is probably 2024.

CaptainHenry9161009d ago (Edited 1009d ago )

You mean Outerworlds 2 is 2024 😁

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lelo2play1010d ago (Edited 1010d ago )

Starfield is expected to be a very big game... Bethesda Game Studios have been working on it for a long time.
Elder Scrolls 6 will take some time and they are likely working on a new Fallout.

RaidenBlack1010d ago (Edited 1010d ago )

The release sequence is likely to be Avowed > Fable > TES VI
Avowed will likely compete with Dragon Age 4 in 2023 in AAA RPG space. Followed by Fable in 2024.

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Jin_Sakai1010d ago

I’m sure Fable will be great. Playground Games are an amazing developer. Forza Horizon 5 looks incredible.

brewin1009d ago

I am so freakin pumped to see more of Fable just because Playground is making it! Their technical prowess is insane! Now lets just hope they have a knack for storytelling as well. From what I have heard, and what the trailer showed, its seems its more a prequel to the OG Fable. That is what is up! There are not enough fantasy style games anymore, everythings all futurisitc and Cyberpunk now,

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masterfox1010d ago

2025/2026 release imo for TES06 and also will start talking about the next next generation consoles by then. :D

AngainorG7X1010d ago

Agreed TES6 will most likely be a next gen launch title along with a downgraded current gen release

EvertonFC1010d ago

Thays what I'm thinking, 2025 release

CaptainHenry9161008d ago

I have to agree. Elder Scrolls next gen launch or the end of this generation

chicken_in_the_corn1010d ago

Only online speculation. Official announcements won't be until years later

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Seraphim1010d ago

that's my thinking. I wouldn't be surprised to see this game drop at the tail of this generation or into next. It's going to spend at least 5 years in actual development and all indications are that they're still in the planning phase right. Meaning development hasn't even started. That at least 5 years is also assuming they [Bethesda or MS] don't take the extra time to do a better job of ironing out bugs and glitches these games are known to have aplenty of. Be it Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim or the Fallout series. While great, these games have all released and continue to be bug/glitch infested messes.

porkChop1010d ago

I'll say it again. March 25, 2024. 30th anniversary of the series. Todd Howard said years ago that he already knows the release date. What other day could it possibly be to know that far in advance?

jznrpg1010d ago

No interest in Fable . After 3 I am done with hoping for a great Fable . 2 wasn’t bad but not great . None of the games came close to what Molyneux said he wanted to make originally. 3 was the worst one by far , no charm like the others at all and it wasn’t even fun in coop . The first 2 were decent 2 being the best but had so many bugs it made me hate it some ways .

Elder Scrolls and Fallout are the only games MS bought that interest me but I don’t really want to support companies buying multiplats so they can say they have exclusives , it’s a crappy practice whoever does it and MS is the king of crap right now . Those games aren’t coming for a long time anyway so we will see what the landscape is and what MS chooses to do by then with their “exclusives” they bought to not be on other platforms .

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WeAreLegion1010d ago

I'm not happy about it, either, but it's a new team working on Fable. A good team. So, I'm optimistic.

That being said, Lionhead lost a lot of developers that made them great. Some of them formed Media Molecule, in fact. Which is a great place to look, if you're trying to find that same creativity and charm from Black & White and Fable.

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343_Guilty_Spark1009d ago

Y'all cried more than Xbox fans about the Xbox Brand not having games and are now upset at how MSFT chose to invest in gaming. Cry me a River ❄️

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TheColbertinator1010d ago

What the?

When is Fable coming out then?!

TFJWM1010d ago (Edited 1010d ago )

Before Elder Scrolls 6...

KillBill1010d ago

Expect it in 2023. Rumors are 343 has been working on it since 2017~2018. (which is oddly when ES6 went into preproduction too)

BLow1009d ago

343 huh. Where you hear that from???

KillBill1009d ago

My mistake 'Playground Games'... I had 343 on my mind too much when I posted I think? lol

CaptainHenry9161008d ago

2023? You're going to be disappointed then. (2024-2025) I can almost guarantee it.

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It's Time To Stop Giving Xbox Boss Phil Spencer A Pass

Under his leadership, many have lost their jobs and fewer games have made it out the door.

purple10116h ago

people should call for his resignation, he has literally flushed xbox down the toilet.
another 3 studios closed today, thats it now, get out

Tody_ZA15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Well purple101 you'd have to convince Observer and the other Xbox faithful that these studio closures and the fallout from the acquisitions is a bad thing and a sign of what's to come, and I don't think you're going to do that.

Nobody has managed that feat.

Redgrave14h ago

Obscure and Zeref have been summoned to the floor to give their account of these proceedings.

VenomUK14h ago

I 100% blame 'nice guy Phil' for the death of Xbox. The thing to realise is the Xbox Series S & X are performing WORST in console sales and game sales than the much criticised Xbox One - how can this be?

His two big mistakes were 1-not developing enough exclusives and 2 - always trying to beat PlayStation. If he made more exclusives over his decade reign and not tried to 'win' then classic Xbox would still be here in a profitable third place. Instead he tried a series of different projects to win and he ended up ultimately destroying Xbox by changing its relationship with its most loyal customers. What did he do?

* Phil spent a decade only release new iterations of Halo, Forza and Gears and not investing in creating new first party studios and IP. He mishandled Scalebound and shutdown Lionhead Studios.

* Phil tried Mixer, a streaming channel that could be used to promote Xbox dominance with free giveaways...

* Phil tried to create a streaming service that he regarded as too superior to consider PlayStation and Nintendo as competitors! But would instead compete with Netflix and Google...

* But his worst mistake was Xbox Game Pass - a multi billion dollar investment that could only work if completely dominated the worldwide gaming market - but it didn't. Instead it changed the culture of Xbox gamers so they resented spending on third party games as they were now trained to expect everything for free. Now all the games Microsoft had invested so much in were not only NOT making money from other platforms, as ever, but they were now NOT EVEN making money from Xbox customers.

If Phil Spencer had just concentrated on making new games and not non-stop gimmicks to beat PlayStation, I genuinely believe the Xbox would be an attractive platform with regular exclusives like Halo but with others too that would give it its distinct identity and maintain a profitable existence. Phil's been in charge for over a decade, the blame lays at his feet.

Chevalier7h ago

Nah idiots like those 2 are lost causes. Just look at the idiotic floundering comments already being posted.

amazinglover13h ago

Last MS financial results for FY24 Q2 which is the company's sales data through Dec. 31, 2023. According to the earnings, gaming revenue is up 49% year-over-year.

That doesn't sound like he flushing it down the toilet and that also makes very unlikely he loses his job any time soon.

crazyCoconuts12h ago

Revenue up due to acquisition... Spending 10s of billions for new companies of course revenue is up. They don't tell us profits but they wouldn't be shutting down these divisions if they were in the black. Pretty sure they're shifting so radically because their current state has been an abject failure

Scissorman12h ago

This is 100% due to Activision Blizzard. If that deal had not gone through, Xbox revenue would be flat, which means a game like Starfield failed to move the needle.

rlow111h ago

@crazyCoconuts
While I agree that Phil and team have gone back on their word. Especially the last six years of promises.

But I disagree on your logic about the revenue.
They bought the companies to boost their gaming division revenue. In that regard they were very successful. They are owned by MS so your point is moot.

Lightning778h ago

They made all that money and still doing studio shutdowns...

It's bottomless pit of money MS wants. There's no amount of money MS can make to save their own studios. They're doing it out greed and general incompetence. Calling Phil's head won't mean anything or do anything for MS. They'll still destroy regardless.

Chevalier7h ago

Damn idiots don't know how to read revenue reports. Revenue was due to folding in Activision Blizzard Revenue. They were up 61% due to Activision Blizzard with 62% increase. So they only went up 1% over last year. But idiots going to be idiots thinking Spencer is helping Xbox right now. Lol

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Jingsing2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

It is funny that it was him finally touching Bethesda that was the straw that finally broke the camels back. They should have been calling for this years ago.

Tacoboto16h ago

Phil needs to go. His time is over. When you oversee layoff after layoff after studio closure after studio closure, it's impossible to keep going forward and have people - employees and fans alike - trust you in any way.

Especially after HiFi Rush hit their metrics. I guess we know what to expect for Ninja Theory next once Hellblade is out, and Machine Games once Indiana's out & Todd Howard focuses back on ES6.

Lightning778h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Ninja Theory won't last after HB2. Because it won't hit some impossible metric in order to be a success at MS.

Expect NT to be gone in a years time also. Where the hells the advertising for Hellblade 2? Another MS issue they do to themselves bunch of clowns.

Tacoboto7h ago

Their first-announced Series game going out like this. Their marketing so far has just been a daily tweet or two the last week.

And now this will overshadow everything up till and through its release. Maybe Ninja Theory will get the same dignity as Tango and bow out with a better PS5 port.

Chevalier7h ago

Hellblade 2 out in 2 weeks and no one will even remember it by the beginning of June

Chevalier7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Just watch Outer World's 2 also be dead on arrival without Playstation and Nintendo gamers buying that game you can expect Gamepass to kill that IP too. Ditto for making that contract to exclude Playstation gamers from getting Indiana Jones too. Remember how Tomb Raider sales were on Playstation after the 1 year exclusivity? Expect even worse for Indiana Jones too

mastershredder15h ago

It's not just Phil (Phil is just the dumb kid taking the money) and Kotaku is NOT the voice to listen to as shi7 sites like Kotaku helped contribute to modern gaming toxicity and disinformation. Kotaku staff = Much like Phil, and yes need to go.

Moegooner15h ago

MS has been posting record profits, you think they give a crap about games and gamers? Think again.

DOMination-15h ago

What a prat.

People gave him and Matt Booty the benefit of the doubt for a few years due to the mess they inherited but a decade on and all they've done is ruin gaming for everyone.

The only success they've had is MS Flight Simulator which was developed by a third party anyway - and Forza Horizon which by pure coincidence went downhill in quality the second Playground were acquired (imo) and that's all I can think of. Everything else they've touched has been ruined.

It's genuinely staggering how either of these two guys are still there.

Hofstaderman15h ago

Phil didnt even inherit a mess, he was equally responsible for it because he sat on the executive so the kinect and XBONE roadmap vision was also on him. Mattrick was the convenient public scapegoat back then but now theres no one to place the blame on.

Tacoboto15h ago

If they're to keep anyone, I'd hope it would be Sarah Bond. She's at least consistent, constantly doing quick tweets with green emojis where she can, repping the brand, saying the next hardware will be the biggest leap ever (whatever that means).

Phil Spencer openly minimizes Xbox by going out of his way to congratulate competitors and talking about how great playing non-Xbox devices are; if only Xbox had someone that could even pretend to like Xbox for being Xbox.

LoveSpuds15h ago

This is the point I always found frustrating, the whitewashing of Spencers reputation when he got promoted. He was involved in the slide into mediocrity of the 360 generation!

Aloymetal14h ago

The worse is yet to come and their fanbase don't know it yet, someone at MS posted and deleted a tweet saying all their main ''exclusives'' Halo, Forza, Gears etc will be heading to PS soon so grab a front seat ticket and some popcorn and enjoy the show;) The crying will be hilarious.

Notellin14h ago

Yeah he is absolutely responsible for the abysmal state of Xbox. I can't tell Mattrick and Spencer apart at this point. Both have been horrible executives for the Xbox brand.

Lightning777h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Phil's responsible for this generations mess. Phil was the one following orders under Steve Balmer and Don Mattrick.

Don even admitted he messed up on camera with the Xbox documentary

Let's keep the facts straight. Everything currently now is Phil's fault.

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