Cyberpunk 2077 Has Reached "A Satisfactory Level", Says CDPR

CD Projekt Red's management has reportedly said its beleaguered RPG Cyberpunk 2077 has now reached a "satisfactory level".

[SullysCigar]

Hmmm...they also said it was ready for release, when it wasn't.

[CorndogBurglar]

Didn't they just put this thing back up on PS+ last week, plastered with warnings about the game's poor state? If you have to put warnings on your game in order to sell it on PS+ then how is it considered "satisfactory"?

[GamerRN]

Sony put the warnings, not them.

[Spenok]

Read the article, he's only referring to one part of the game. It's stability. Not the game as a whole.

[RpgSama]

Oh wow, after 6 months of release the game is in only at a "satisfactory level", that's SO sad.

What a mishandled property.

[Jericho1337]

Waiting for the next gen version. Will hopefully be the game the first envisioned.

[EazyC]

I don't think it's the game they envisioned initially, nor will it ever be.

[SyntheticForm]

And unfortunately, it doesn't matter if the game that was envisioned ever comes to fruition - only the money. Well, the money they envisioned certainly came in.

Who knows what they envisioned at this point; could be that this is what they had in mind all along. Create a nice frame to impress, fill it with bullshit to pull the wool over our eyes, then sell it for the money they envisioned,

[VenomCarnage89]

The game they first envisioned is basically impossible to bring to life at this point. Where we currently stand, anything more than hoping they patch up the glaring issues that get in the way of basic gameplay would be wishful thinking

[ElvisHuxley]

Play it on PC. Game is great. The angry mob doesn't represent reality. The response to the last gen version, which probably shouldn't have been released, has been imposed on the entire release. If I play it on PC, and it's amazing, it doesn't matter, because the mob has canceled the game, a shame. It feels like most of the people trashing the game haven't even tried it.

[chronoforce]

It is just as janky on PC and I have seen my far share of jank. Cars unable to pass around the slightest of obstacles, npc's without routines that walk back and forth before disappearing in front of your very eyes. V seemingly being the only person alive who has a licence to ride a motorcycle, npc's without animations for opening car doors along with said doors swinging right through characters as well.

Fixers you have never met call you out of the blue offering you Jobs and to buy vehicles for some reason. These Fixers are actually on the map but CDPR could not be asked to integrate meeting them into the game and story properly or even give them initials on the map so you know who's who.

Street racing and seeing the AI cars teleport forward as they get left behind, the broken, uncomplete wanted system. The list goes on and on.

You are in denial if you think the people that negatively critique the game have not played the it.

[Aussiesummer]

It won't.

[jznrpg]

Unless they totally rework the AI , add a ton to the interactivity in the worlds objects and npcs this will never be close to what they were hyping. Maybe if they green light a CP 2 they can do it but it’s so much work it may be impossible without starting from scratch for the first game .

[Knightofelemia]

They made these promises before the damage is done everybody knows about this game and how it's broken.

[GameZenith]

Does not mean they cannot improve.

I am sure you made assertions that you'll be able to accomplish something only to fall short of expectations. So does that mean you should be labeled a failure and someone who does not meet expectations for the rest of your life?

[Fluttershy77]

No. But it means you have lost some credibility

[CS7]

But did he blatantly lie and say his accomplishment ran ‘surprisingly well’ when he knew at that point that it ran terribly?

https://www.gamesradar.com/...

Did he hide the state of his accomplishment knowing that people would spend their money to buy a broken product?

https://www.thegamer.com/cd...

The problem isn’t the miss, it is the lies.
And if you defend CDPR for lying, you are the problem in the industry.

I hope every game you ever buy runs buggy and terribly while the developers tell you it is amazing.

I hope every developer hides review copies and you are never able to see a true review for any game ever.

Since you think CDPR was is ok.

[Hikoran]

@CS7 Bit drastic. We all play games, we're all entitled to an opinion. You shouldn't wish harsh stuff on someone because their views don't align with yours.

[Knightofelemia]

@GameZenith

Yeah they could improve the game probably be 2077 until the game is actually playable. When they were popping out updates for this game the updates would fix some issues then open up more problems. They lied, rushed this game out the door, even their staff said the game was not ready, it gets pulled down from the PSN store, digital store fronts and even CD Projekt were offering refunds. Also the misleading to the higher ups that has lead to what four lawsuits on this game. They rushed the game out the door to snag up holiday sales instead of pushing the game back to clean up and spit and polish the game. I will admit some of the bugs were funny at first but then they just got annoying. I like the dirty futuristic stories like Judge Dredd, Fifth Element, Total Recall. I got tired of waiting on patches other games were coming out so I traded in this half baked cake of a game for something better that was actually fun to play.

[Relientk77]

Going from The Witcher 3, which is a masterpiece, to this train wreck with months of patches and it's just "satisfactory"

Wow, how their standards have fallen.

[FlavorLav01]

Witcher3 wasn’t a masterpiece. It had some of the stalest combat I’d ever experienced in a game with that level of production. Story, characters, and world building were great. But good lord, the same 2 or 3 sword combos over and over were laughable

[WillyC009]

That’s your opinion and very much in the minority. Witcher 3 is a masterpiece of an RPG, a modern classic.

[Elda]

I agree. I tried playing TW3 several times & it was just a bore to me.

[CantThinkOfAUsername]

It's an action RPG (in the broad definition of RPG). RPGs don't excel in combat. The best of the genre, according to critics and gamers, have serviceable combat at best. For example, Mass Effect has the most mundane combat I've ever seen to date. Skyrim is another example. Both are heralded as masterpieces.

Combat never defines RPG. Characters, Dialogue, Quests, Story, World, and overall freedom do.

[Snakeeater25]

Combat system is terrible

[poppatron]

I don’t know about laughable, but I do however think everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. The mass critical and commercial success does make you in the minority. But people shouldn’t jump down your throat for voicing a perfectly valuable point of view

[Silly gameAr]

I didn't really like The Witcher 3, either. It's like Fallout 3 to me. No matter how much I tried to like it and get into it, it just didn't click with me.

[Taero]

@FlavorLav01 Agreed, TW3 combat (and really all of the Witcher series combat) is 'adequate' at best. As an RPG the quests and story are top notch but the actual fighting? Mediocre at best.

I see a comment below about how "Combat never defines RPG. Characters, Dialogue, Quests, Story, World, and overall freedom do." and my addition to that would be to ask 'why not?' Is there a a reason we shouldn't expect to have fun in combat and just settle for the lore/story?

Slightly different wheelhouse but it's in my mind since the demo for the sequel just came out but "The World Ends with You" on the NDS was a masterpiece RPG imo when it came out, story was great, characters great, customization great, length great, and the combat was innovative and also great fun. Now I'm not expecting tapping and frantic circles, scratching, shouting etc. on TW3 like TWEWY :p but the idea that you should just not expect decent combat because it's an RPG smacks of excuses and hand waving.

[P_Bomb]

I was late to the party, didn’t playthrough Witcher 3 til last year. But it quickly became one of my goats. Loved it.

[Zhipp]

You should've played on the hardest difficulty. There's a lot more strategy and timing involved. Plus you actually have to make use of signs and potions.

[frostypants]

Witcher 3 had plenty of weapon moves. The issue was you really didn't need to learn or use them.

[WillyC009]

There are a lot of ppl on here I’m thankful don’t get a say on games of the year awards and what gets deemed ‘class ice’. A lot of comically bad takes hahaha

[Yui_Suzumiya]

The Witcher games just never interested me. It's the setting that I don't care for. Dragon Age II is the only fantasy themed RPG I've ever enjoyed. Cyberpunk I absolutely love though. One of the best RPGs ever made.

[Psychotica]

One of the best ever made?? lol..absurd

[DankSinatra]

I’m seriously thinking you guys are forgetting how bad the Witcher was when it launched. It wasn’t “masterpiece” material with it’s large number of technical issues and they had to patch it like crazy. CDPR has low standards for games technically since the Witcher 1.

[GamingSinceForever]

I agree. TW3 was in fact the last game that I recall having to stop playing until they fixed a glitch that would allow me to advance on a story mission. I recall it being the one where you had to recruit a clan. It took several weeks before they patched it.

[WillyC009]

The state of Witcher 3 wasn’t nowhere near as bad as cyberpunk 2077. That game was unplayable for me on the ps5. I still get crashes every 30-40 minutes. I didn’t forget about the issues when Witcher 3 launched but the foundation, story, world, gameplay, exploration, lack of load times besides travelling the the different worlds. Outstanding. The game is simply a modern classic and a true masterpiece as far as I’m concerned.

[BigMalk]

It wasn't though. I reviewed it with a pre-release copy, and the only major problem was Roach and his pathfinding. The rest was minor stuff that didn't really interfere with the fun of playing.

[DankSinatra]

@WillyC009 I had the same experience with cyberpunk 2077 where I had a total of 2 glitches and 1 crash in my entire play through of 130 hours. But with the Witcher it was a constant struggle to play. Strange Tpose glitches, crashes, riach and characters floating, textures not loading, falling through the map. Not everyone has the same experience with either games but TW3 was definitely in a similar state as CP2077 was, it’s just more publicized now with the amount of hype riding from what the Witcher 3 had become later on.

@BigMalk same to you, not everyone had the same experience, you can look up anywhere if you don’t believe my experience and people will tell you TW3 was absolutely in a bad state at launch and took a bit of updating to make it playable for a lot of people.

Am I defending cyberpunk 2077? No. They made promises they didn’t keep. The only thing I’m pointing out is that the technical issues should have been expected.

[specialguest]

Sorry CDPR. You blew it and I've lost interest months ago. I was hyped for this game until trouble was reported

[GameZenith]

Then dont play it. Leave it for others to enjoy.

[Snakeeater25]

I did not waste more than 5 hours … such terrible combat and gameplay

[specialguest]

I won't be playing it. We are both in agreement 👍

[ajax17]

It'll never be satisfactory on last gen consoles

[Deathdeliverer]

You know all this time they still haven’t even released the “true” next gen versions of cyberpunk and at this point I couldn’t blame them if they just moved on. I’m so over the game it’s unreal.

[dbcoops]

I'd like to see them release a true next gen version. I gave up playing it on PS4 for obvious reasons but now that I have a PS5 I'd like to get my moneys worth but I'm still keeping expectations low.

[dbcoops]

Well if CDPR says so then.......................... .....

[JangoMan]

Apart from all this performance and stability issues, I've found this game to be extremely generic in all aspects.

[B68W]

Good stuff, in another 8-12 months it should be a good game.

[spwittbold]

flllllllllllllllllllllllllop

[RedDeadLB]

That's up to consumers, ain't it? Personally, I don't think it'll ever reach what it was supposed to be in any way.

[ScootaKuH]

Hmm...I don't pay £50 for "satisfactory" though

[OhReginald]

LOL. What a bunch of liars!!!! They said they were at a satisfactory level at launch. Omg haha

[TheHan]

Can’t wait! Still my most favorite game, that being said, hope to see a Series X version soon.

[Rebel_Scum]

Satisfactory in terms of stability… hmm probably a fair point. Theyve fixed a lot of stuff around the game crashing.

His comment just comes across as tone deaf when taken out of context. Real click baity headline from EG.

[GameZenith]

Reading comments here is the exact reason why Bethesda should not show ingame footage of Starfield until closer to release.

[coretone]

Cyberpunk 2077 trailers - "Work in progress - does not represent the final look of the game"

I'll take this as a promise of how the game will look and play when it releases. THIS IS A PROMISE!! THEY PROMISED!!

[I_am_Batman]

Hopefully they learn from this and get their next game to "a satisfactory level" before shipping it.

[Bender6502]

Worth £70.00 of anyone's money!

[gamer7804]

I’m waiting for the next gen patch, a shame the game was on sale for like 20$ a couple days ago and I bought for 60…

[Acecalibur]

*Sagat hmph*

[philm87]

Misleading headline. It mentions it in the article, but they said they're satisfied with the level of stability, not the game as a whole. They'll continue to make improvements etc to the rest of the game.

I for one loved it when I played it several months ago on the PS5. Don't listen to the bull****, it's a lot better than people make out.

[BrainSyphoned]

The headline is exactly the tone of the original story. Got to look at the bottom of articles to see the revisions to the clickbait "news".

""UPDATE 5.44pm 27/06: This story has been updated to clarify that the "satisfactory" quote may only refer to the game's "stability" and not the game as a whole. Apologies for any confusion!""

[cd1]

It may well be satisfactory but I'm still waiting for the proper PS5 version.

[FanboysKiller]

I hate when early adopters quickly rush through buying a new released game so they have the upper hand to judge the game and make sure their voice is heard to everyone loud and clear so they tell people how to think about it, the harsh truth in reality after they fix it is no one will g a s about what people say about it , all they care about is playing for a few hours and when it clicks in their minds it doesn't matter.

[SDuck]

If you take that title into some sexual routes, it becomes accurately hilarious

[somethingcool87]

Satisfactory Level = Does not crash and brick your console

[Hikoran]

Came here for the cynical comments - wasn't disappointed.

[justadelusion]

just shows you they learned NOTHING from this and do NOT care about their products any more, only trying to salvage some sales

[bangoskank]

I think the money CDPR made off of lying to people is more than "satisfactory level". Unfortunately that will enable the industry to continue treating consumers like this.

[starforge71]

im glad i stopped day 1 purchases so i missed this train wreck of a game and i had such high hopes for it

[anast]

Maybe stability, but performance is worse than a Bethesda game, which is a low bar to set.

[SCW1982]

Then this is when the game should have released, will never buy this game based on principle.

[BigMalk]

And are they releasing this satisfactory patch, because it still plays like a mediocre shooter at the minute?

[zarbor]

I finally finished (just one run) Cyberpunk2077 on Xbox 1X. I can tell you for sure on this platform the latest patched fixed a lot of issues. This is how the game should have been released. However, there are still issues in the game but doesn't break the game completely.

1. NPCs still have clipping, wierd actions, pop up and get stuck at times but far less than before
2. The game still slightly pause to load when going from area to area by vehicles
3. There is still pop-in but far less
4. Cops are still ridiculous but toned down considerably
5. There are far fewer vehicles on the road in a number of locations (stretches with no cars)
6. Don't zoom in on traffic from a distance (just laughable)
7. Not sure if it was the XBOX but only happened when playing CP2077. The console would shut down with no warning.

I have to say now finishing the game once, there is a good game hiding deep within CP2077. Its really a shame because the stories in the game are well written. The main quest is good and even the characters in all of the stories are very good. Good voice acting. The biggest issue is the director of the game botched it and it became a convoluted mess with no great direction until you get closer to the end. Now I know why they fired that guy. He was the single point of failure where it started but he was not the only failure.

[thejigisup]

If no man's sky can go from a shiny turd the magnificent game that it is now with such a small team I'm 100% positive CDPR can really deliver on their vision with the next gen patch/release but whether they do it or not is entirely up to them. I'd like them to make good on their promise I completed roughly half the game and haven't picked it up since. I won't touch it until the ps5 version is complete and available. I think at its core there's a great game but it was riddled with bugs and Hal finished systems... also why did they censor the game so much, kinda annoying since they didn't need to and really changes the aesthetic.

[adaminoregon]

So glad i never pre ordered this. It might barely be ready for ps5 or series x but they wont be getting my money to find out.

[philm87]

I urge you to. I really enjoyed it, and don't understand the criticism. There seems to be people with unrealistic expectations (partly CDPR's fault for their marketing), incredibly critical of very minor bugs that happen in most games, complaining about things that have been cut that were never actually supposed to be in the game anyway (they've actually added a lot that wasn't supposed to be in their originally like hijacking any car), want NPCs to have individual complex lives for some reason (I actually thought the NPCs were quite good), and then there's those who want it to be a futuristic GTA.
If you expect similar limitations to the Witcher 3 then you won't be disappointed.

[zarbor]

What a load of bunk. Dude you clearly didn't play this game on consoles when the game launched. Minor bugs? For those of you reading this joker post, do yourself a favor and go to youtube to see all the issues with the game. If the game had minor bugs, why in the h*** was there a number of HUGE patches that list TONS of fixes.

This game had WAAAY more issues than Witcher 3 many were game breaking. So bad that Sony took it off their site for purchase. They didn't do that with the Witcher 3. The game is better now, if anyone wants to play it, I wouldn't spend more than $20 for this game. The game still has issues but the game breaking ones are gone. I'm sure you could find a used copy even cheaper.

CDPR should not be rewarded for such a shoddy job launching a broken game that many paid full price. They should be given some credit for fixing many of the issues more than six months later. I would suggest waiting for the PS5 and Series X version....but wouldn't buy it at launch. They are not to be trusted yet.

[philm87]

@zarbor I'm talking about how the game is now. No I didn't play it at launch, I never said I did, I played it from about January on the PS5.

[fffaustyyy]

These guys really must have hated being the sweethearts of gaming. They're really trying to go full villain with this garbage.

[Spenok]

People commenting without reading the actual substance strikes again!

If you actually read the article, you'll see he's only referring to one part of the game. It's stability. Not the game as a whole. And that they still have much planned for the game. Soon they'll be shifting to mechanics and other areas people have voiced they want changed/fixed.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

I'm willing to give it a try

[Rachel_Alucard]

Article is kind of misleading (Once again), because he states they have been working on performance and stability, and in that regard they believe it has reached a satisfactory level. The overall game is definitely not satisfactory.

[MADGameR]

Nobody cares about Cyberpunk anymore move on CD Projekt Wrecked.