Metal Gear Solid Touch?

Kojima has released an image that has people in a tiff about the next MGS game.

Is the green a reference to the 360? Don't get too excited...

Pushing Play has a pretty convincing argument about why they think the next MGS game will appear on the iPod Touch.

[BRACHATTACK]

I would be extremely surprised if this MGS title was for the 360.

[chaosatom]

I know that Kojima used ps3's potential. That's What will happen with FF13 Hopefully.

MGS4 coming to 360 doesn't mean anything about MGS5. It could always go ps3 exclusive. They know that their game sell really well on the ps3.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

I would not be suprised if MGS4 goes to the 360.After all its not the first big exlusive game sony lost.

I dont care either way.Its only ps3 fan boys that will be hurt if it goes to the 360 but not gamers like me.

[Tmac]

Haha, MGS isn't going to Xbox 360, some people can hope and dream but it's as likely as Gears coming to Ps3.

[Shane Kim]

I don't care what happens with MGS4 either, I just pray to god that this isn't a new MG/MGS game that'll end up xbox exclusive couse that will make me purchase a xbox and I really don't want to.

[chaosatom]

It could be XBl Tile.

It could be iphone tile.

It could be a xbox title.

If Microsoft wants to waste money on stealing exclusive and less on supporting first-party titles, then they can do that. I am fine with that.

If Microsoft made a new Exclusive title, then I would actually care. But not in this case.

[Sharpshell]

its so obvious... but regardless why are people even talking a bout mgs4 or mgs at all? Hasn't anyone notices it says the next METAL GEAR game and NOOOOOT metal gear solid???? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Lol sorry I got a lil carried away

[Avto]

Are we even sure that Hideo will be making the next game, yeah sure he will probably produce it, but I doubt he'll be directing it and for fans it's all that matters. Also some have already pointed out the message says the next Metal Gear not the next Metal Gear Solid. The next MGS game will be on Xbox just as well as it'll be on PS3 no more exclusive games, Konami officials have already said that, but I doubt Kojima Productions has any idea what MGS5 will be like, maybe some early concept work.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

if that's true i say that's a waste, psp is still the better choice for portable gaming than an ipod touch.

i was thinking something for the wii or 360, but if it's for the ipod touch i say that's dumb.

[solidt12]

Isn't this story about a possible Ipod Touch game. Please don't start the MGS4 on 360 crap again.

[Fallen_Angel]

Its MGST meaning MGS Trilogy and you can tell from the circle with the i in it that its for the 360 cause thats the same circle thats in the middle of the 360's power button

[butterfinger]

That's funny, because I have that symbol on my PS3, my Macbook, and my PDA. Does that mean new Metal Gear games for all of these?! Awesome! Metal Gear for everyone platform with a power button!

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

lol, don't gamers have PlayStation 3s? The comment contradicts itself by saying it would only hurt the fanboys yet you don't own both wanting it on the XBOX 360.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

what color is ipod touch's power button anyway?

and does it even use lights as a means of determining when it's "off and on"?

[callahan09]

It's not going to be for 360.
Quote me on that, please.

First, the "i" has nothing to do with 360, and it's a significant part of the teaser. So it's either iPod or Wii or DSi.

Second, if it WERE for 360, I'd bet money that MS would know about it by now due to licensing contracts, etc., and they'd have probably kept this thing under wraps and then let loose with a big Final Fantasy XIII style reveal when they wanted to make it public.

[Blademask]

1. Playstation Brand associated titles comin to the 360
2. hourly sales.

How about

- Wheres Alan Wake? Huxley, Warhounds, Splinter Cell.. oh I dunno.. any 360 exclusive games?

argue with it if u like, but I dont even think anyone owns a 360 for 360 games outside of Gears and Halo. The rest, just multi platforms and old playstation games. But as we see, the ps3 is actually pushing out the new games this generation, and MS buys into em. Sure developers love money, I wouldn't turn down MS either. Would be nice to see an actual lineup for 2008 and 2009. Like another Konami series on the console. MGS has been multiplat in the past. I bet this speculative MGS power button is going to be more talked about than any actual game releases on the 360.

What exactly does the 360 have going into next year game wise? Any coverage on any big games? This year had 3 games for an entire 12 month period that were worth anything.

Did you buy a 360 just to play playstation games o_0? Just asking.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

"Wheres Alan Wake? Huxley, Warhounds, Splinter Cell.. oh I dunno.. any 360 exclusive games?"

.............ps gamers had to wait the longest for their games to come out when ps3 first came out......what were YOU doing in the mean while?

at least 360's getting nice multiplats titles in the mean while, while it adds more exclusives to it's list, that was something ps3 didn't have back then in 06.

sony did make 09 a lot better for them by announcing lots of stuff for 09 but what about 2010, what big games are coming for ps3 then, rather then just babble on and on about the future we should just wait for it to unravel....cause it's all just speculation if we're talking about it.

and you forgot about ninja blade, mass effect2, star ocean 4 and cry on ect.

[Blademask]

This is year 3.

Its safe to say the PS3 had R1/R2 M1/M2 Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, GT5P, Folklore, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Valkyira Chronicles, Warhawk, Socom, Hotshots Golf, Singtar, Buzz, all in two years on the market. and 2009 theres already: Heavy Rain, Killzone2, and God Of War 3 to just start off 09.

All of the "etc" games you are mentioning are just like duke nukem right now. Just an old list on IGN's webpage of "????" TBA release dates with nothing current or any buzz or development news.No one can ever know what is up the sleeves. But right now, come on man. Multiplats are holding over the 360 till what? What games are people definitely looking forward to that have some news of surfacing in 2009? Outside of multiplats, dont you think that a console needs to have a reason to buy it outside of just a price? Because all that it would take for the sky to come falling down is a pricecut from the ps3.

There is no gaming news from Microsoft showing that they are working on their higher tier gaming Library. Just PR about maybe placing a distant second behind the Wii. Its like it stopped after halo3. Gears is a good product. But thats just 1. It would be nice to see a Forza3, Splinter Cell, ALL the stuff that was there on Xbox1 flowing over to the 360 at least. It would be fine if new titles were replacing these, but thats not happening either. I just want a new fusion frenzy this year \ next. I think thats on the way.

Or, maybe.. Exclusives are just dead. And we are just going to move our way into the 1 console world that EA dreams about at night. I dunno.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

"Its safe to say the PS3 had R1/R2 M1/M2 Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, GT5P, Folklore, Heavenly Sword, MGS4, Valkyira Chronicles, Warhawk, Socom, Hotshots Golf, Singtar, Buzz, all in two years on the market. and 2009 theres already: Heavy Rain, Killzone2, and God Of War 3 to just start off 09."

you added games that were out later than 06 and some of them much much later.

if your going to make a list that spans that long 360's got a huger list......cause it's ben out longer.

I'm talking about how long does it take for a gamer to feel that he needs to get more games.......a huge majority of ps3 gamers rely heavily on first and second party developers.

for 360 gamers not so much....in fact not at all since 360 has a high successes rate on multiplats, so it's not so bad for a 360 gamer.

(Kigmal)

Metal gear didn't start on the ps, it was on the Nintendo in the late 80s, same thing with final fantasy, and the " making it for the iPod is a waste" thing is in reference to the fact that most ipod users buy ipods other than games, playing games was an add on for ipod users, it was a good add on but it wasn't "THE" add on that made it become popular.

if it's true that konami is making one, they did it cause they just wanted to, if it was by means of trying to rack in more sales this isn't the way to do, and I'm sure they know that already.

[Bnet343]

Like everyone is saying, an MGS game for the iPod is a waste. I would really like to see Xbox get it's own Metal Gear games. Maybe a remake of the original since Metal Gear started on MSX, why not continue it?

[jammy_70]

does any1 no if trophies are coming to mgs4? cuz wooow that game wud be 11/10 if it did!

[knamelis]

I'd agree.... I bet it's coming out on the Ipod...

[WANNA GET HIGH]

Buy a 360 and keep ur ps3.Trust me u will have more fun with games if u were not a fan boy and u had both consoles.

[UltimateIdiot911]

I see that likely, I mean after all Kojima is a bit of a Apple fanboy. We have a Macbook and iPod in MGS4. There is a high possibility that Konami brings MGS4 into an actual iPod.

[The Matrix]

"Is the green a reference to the 360? Don't get too excited... " No it would have to be red for that. :)

[cayal]

Wanna Get High - You can have both (or all three) consoles and still be a fanboy.

I have a 360 and PS3, but I prefer PS3. But I enjoy what the 360 has to offer in exclusives.

[Th3 Chr0nic]

If it is really going to for the ipod or itouch or iDiot or whatever u want to call it then that is the lamest thing ever. so completely retarded i cant even put into words.
Im hoping it is MGST as in Metal gear sold Tactics for 360. i just made that up out of wishfull thinking but anything would be better than a lame cellphone game.

[pwnsause]

it makes complete sense.

[DrRage77]

i think it is probably a mgs game for the iphone and/or nintendo ds...why only make a game for the playstation when the largest gaming market is handhelds? makes sense. i don't think it has anything to do with a game for the 360, nor do i care for one on the 360 for that matter.

[solidt12]

I agree. People are just coming up with stuff out there arse to use as flame bait. No where did the website say it is a 360 game or PS3. The only assumption that makes since to any one with a brain is a possible touch game since it uses mgst on the site and that is also a complete assumption but at least that one makes a little since. We should wait for more Official information and not listen to idiots on the Internet.

[rhood022]

That's what I thought that teaser image was hinting. I firmly believe it's MG Ac!d for the iTouch.

And the green coloring? Well, most graphical representations of acid -- in videogames/comics anyway -- are green.

[GVON]

green for apple?

[Optimus_Prime]

My God, Sony fanboys are beyond stupid.

That teaser means CLEARLY that MGS4 is going to 360.

Deal with that.

[dkgshiz]

Theirs been at least 20 or more rumors saying its coming to the 360 since MGS4 has been announced. Its clearly not coming.

[MegaMohsi]

a NEXT Metal GEAR, MGS4 on the 360 isnt the NEXT METAL GEAR. I find it curious that they left out Solid and it just says next Metal Gear, which makes me lean towards it being a Metal Gear Acid title

[WANNA GET HIGH]

I tought MGS4 was a movie and not a game?!?!?!

Now u want it to come to ur system when a rumor comes up but when no rumor comes up u say "i dont care about mgs4,its not even a game its a movie"....... FACEPALM :/

U fanboys make me laugh.

[Sharpshell]

you an I are the only people who noticed that its isn't about metal gear solid, seriously people! how this has any relation to the 360 is beyond me... seriously MS doesn't have a patent on the color green! now it it was red and flashing maybe... lol i kid i kid.,.. seriously this isnt a debat about whether or not MGS4 SHOULD be on the 360 its a mute point, its not even an MGS game at all, get over it people (on both sides)

[XxZxX]

now i know why Prime die in the war, utterly stupid.

[NickIni]

I'm 90% sure he was being sarcastic.

[XxZxX]

NickIni, ooh you don't know Prime at all.

[NickIni]

Ehh. There's too many people here. I can't keep track of who's a fanboy and who isn't. The "CLEARLY" lead me to believe it was sarcasm, but meh. If it's not, the stupidity in his comment is at his own loss.

[YogiBear]

nope i don't think so

[Kuest]

http://www.play-girlz.com/w...

Looks suspicious.

[Tmac]

Lol sure, this rumour has been going around for how long with no truth to it. Just saying, keep hoping.

[BigMassacre]

My PC's power button is the same damn symbol...and wait just a minute! It's green!

[Kuest]

The plot thickens!

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Don't get so excited, Tmac. You know its true, babe. ;)

[Timesplitter14]

http://farm3.static.flickr....

Looks suspicious.

[Kuest]

My conspiracy has been thrawrted!

Damn you, Timesplitter. But, wait? The PS3 symbol is not green... The plot thickens further.

Beware Sony fans, the Multi-Plat Boggie man is out to get youuuuuuu. Bwahahahaha!!

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Type bigger Time Splitter, I can't read what you're saying. What? Your screen's disappering...

[Timesplitter14]

the light under it is green.

And green means ''on'' BTW

[Kuest]

Puleaze! You're reaching buddy, though not high enough.

You have to lift your heels, use your tippy toes. Like this... http://www.play-girlz.com/w...

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No response? Checkmate! MGS4 is coming to Tipphany's at 11, its got a date with Steve Balmer. He's such a cutie.

[Timesplitter14]

Allright. Tell me what the ''i'' has to do with the X360 then.

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OMG! 3 whole minutes and STILL no response! Checkmate! You must be crying in your closet right now!!!!!!!!

:|

[Kuest]

contains the letter "i" in it. Nailed it!

[Timesplitter14]

So does Playstation... and so does iPod. And unlike the PS3 and MS, the ''i'' in ''iPod'' is a trademark

I'm not impressed.

[Kuest]

Plus the PS3's logo is not green, but white as evidence by your picture. Therefore, the 360 is the only console with 1) a definitive logo that resembles the picture, and 2) the color green as a trademark color.

You amuse me, Timesplitter; most people by now have realized I was merely joking... Perhaps you wish to challenge me in some real debate? Or perhaps you have some weird phobia over the Microsoft symbol. Or mabye its just multi-plats? Don't be frightenened, you need only accept the... http://www.play-girlz.com/w...

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Here's a naked picture of Angenila Jolie... http://www.play-girlz.com/w... Check it out!

[Timesplitter14]

''Well the game's not coming to the Ipod, so we may rule that out.''

Explain the logic (or lack of) behind this statement.

http://pub1.personafile.com...

''the 360 is the only console with 1) a definitive logo that resembles the picture, and 2) the color green as a trademark color.''

1) This logo is the universal ''power button'' logo that you'll see on most modern electronics. Not the ''Microsoft symbol'' like you said.

2) Green means two things : Xbox, and ''go'' or ''start''.

[Kuest]

So, why, all of sudden would they just happen to go green. The enviornment? Or maybe to get hits? Either way I really don't care about the series enough. So, for convience sake, lets just combine your two points into: start[ing on the] Xbox.

;)

Meanwhile, with respects to the Ipod, I gurantee you that whatever new installment Konami is making will be console related, not a mini-phone installment. Up to this point, name 1 cellphone related Metal Gear Solid game... Ain't going happen because the fanbase is limited. So, when I 'rule out the possibility of an Ipod MGS', its obviously contigent on Konami's existence as a profit-oriented company. Unless you can prove to me that the Ipod is profitable as a game machine. Particularly in regards to hard core titles.

This is proving to be a nice debate after all!

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Yes, unfortunately, I was going by the recent MGS4 installment. As it turns out the traditional MGS color is black, as you mentioned. Of course, the question becomes why the color green? Especially when it is so indicative of the Xbox symbol? I began this query as a sly joke, but let us begin really contemplating the manner, since you seem so willing.

First, in regards to the Nokia phone, I must concede I did not recall that spin-off title, as I presume one must be a fan to keep up with such things. Bearing that in mind, I am curious as to what were the sales of that title? I myself do not have the information, but perhaps you do.

Let us refer back to the combination of both the power button, and the color green. Already, we may surmise that the new MGS may perhaps be released on a new platform. For the phrase 'next MGS' followed by the start button can be interpreted as the next MGS is starting on X console. Now, whereas both Iphone, and the PS3, contain the 'start' symbol, the color which defines it is white. So, in that sense, my above inference that MGS could be arriving on Xbox is justified, considering that it is the only console which meets the above criteria.

Your first picture of the PS3 doesn't cut it, neither does the fact that the 'background' in MGS3 is green. For now we may hold on any sort of supreme judgment, but- as it stands- the prospect of a 360 MGS seems realistic.

Also, you failed to answer my third point earlier, where I asked on what sort of economic basis would Konami release a cellular phone game.

Before we can continue this debate, you must address fairly my third critique. Otherwise, your proposition for an Iphone game is wholly unrealistic, irrespective of one phone game (which I failed to consider).

[Timesplitter14]

*ahem...*

Metal Gear Mobile (for mobile phones) :

http://www.nokiaphoneblog.c...

''oops'', huh?

And can you point me out the ''trademark MGS red'' in this? I dunno... I just see a black title with a green number and a green background.

http://cache.kotaku.com/ima...

But it's ok. You were ''merely joking'' so I guess you were trying to immitate a fanboy.

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I don't know the sales. But considering the low budgets of these games and the extreme popularity of Apple in the world and especially in Japan, I bet it would be a very profitable descision.

And you should take a look at this : http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

''The game received top honours at the 2007 International Mobile Gaming Awards, taking both the Grand Prix and Operator's Choice Awards. ''

Wanna get back to the ''green light'' and international ''power button'' symbol? Tou want to completely forget about the ''i''? You want to overlook the fact that Konami made an MGS game for cellphones?

Fine. Just read comment 7.12
And don't expect me to overlook YOUR arguments (altough our bubbles are coming to an end). If I start overlooking stuff, I already lost.

As I'm seeing it right now, if MGS is going to a new platform or multiplat, it's 80% iTouch ans 20% X360

[Kuest]

My argument does not require you to consider the specific sales of MGS portable, but rather the presumed profitability of ANY Iphone game. This whole argument you have leveled against me is contingent on the possibility of an Iphone game being a good substitute (profit-wise) for an Xbox title, thus I ask what economic factors led you to conclude this?

The green light argument I made above (unwittingly, I might add) is weak only if the Iphone represents an alternative medium for Konami.

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Excellent, I think what is key for both of us to examine is the "user-generated" approach Apple has taken with its particular gaming platform. Its not an emulation of DS or PSP because the consumer is primarily responsible for the content created. In addition, the most popular types of games for the Iphone are confined mostly to music-oriented titles. Take this article, for instance. http://tech.yahoo.com/news/...

Overall, your argument has merit, but only when taken from a general standpoint. Nevertheless, if one were to examine these 50 million + titles being released, he/she would have to accede that these titles are ultra-casual, very simplistic titles, as evidenced by the article I referenced above. Bearing that in mind, you have proved that the market for Iphone is not hardcore products, but music related titles and casual games. If Konami were to start developing for the Iphone, it might as well start developing for the Wii. Furthermore, the manner of product typically developed by Konami would have to be drastically altered. Perhaps Metal Gear Solid Party? Spy Dance?

Checkmate my friend, until you get back. I'm anxious to here your reply. Just remember, if you begin a debate with me, you must be willing to go the full distance.

[Timesplitter14]

Just read that.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/...

I must go now and I'll only be back in 2 hours

[Whoooop]

Timesplitter won by technical K.O.

[callahan09]

Hahaha. I have to literally laugh out loud at all the people claiming that the UNIVERSAL POWER SYMBOL (it appears on my PS3, 360, Wii, PC, and Polaroid television for god's sake) is somehow a symbol for Microsoft. If anybody is associating it with Microsoft it's only because so many people have seen the Red Ring of Death, which surrounds the power button, and therefore the universal power symbol.

[dkgshiz]

Since MGS4 had so many Apple ads it would make sense.

[Sheddi]

Hey! thats not a bad ide!
Think about it
iPod = i
When a guard sees u = !
i + ! = Green Power Button
Green as in start (on the go?)
MGST = MGS Touch

= New MGS on the new Ipod Touch!
Mystery cleared!

[darkdoom3000]

wow, sh!t you're probably right! i had a feeling it was for the ipod, but all thoes apple computers in MGS4, and the ipod makes it seem very likley.

... i + ! = "On" OR -> iphone + Ac!d = On.. => Ac!d On iPhone!

GASP!!!!

[crinale]

And Kojima-san loves apple, just as he loves Sony.

[Mr PS3]

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

You dont really think your gonna get the Masterpiece that is MGS4 on that Sh!tBox 360

[Aclay]

If that so called "Power Button" symbol was broken down into 4 individual segments to resemble the "Ring" around the Xbox 360 power button, then maybe it would point to a MGS game being on the 360, but that power button symbol could mean anything. And the fact that there is an exclamation mark, leads me to believe that it is another Metal Gear Acid game that might be in development for some handheld/portable platform.

It's really stupid how people totally spun this around into a possible MGS game being exclusive to the 360 or MGS4 on 360, ridiculous. Until then Konami, I'll be waiting for MGS5 on PS3. If MGS5 is on 360 too, fine, but the 360 version had better be on 2-3 discs or something because the PS3 version had better not be gimped because it's multiplatform.

[Timesplitter14]

Remember the iPod in MGS4?

Noticed how the ''i'' has absolutely nothing to do with the X360?

MGST = Metal Gear Solid Touch?

yeah... iTouch game confirmed.

[monfa]

METAL GEAR AC!D for iphone/touch

http://image.com.com/gamesp...
;)

[MasFlowKiller]

if its a MGS ac!d that is.

[rawd]

Why would it be dumb. Have you seen the quality of graphics and gameplay in the dev kits. It's outstanding

[S1CKLY]

and have you tried playing a game on the iphone or ipod touch? they have no fps and lag like mad.. freezing constantly..

gaming on ipod = fail

[KingDizzi]

Kojima made a PS3 game using the system as best he could, that is what I am happy about. Console owners wanting a game on there system is something I understand but not those wanting a game to stay exclusive is rabid fanboyism. On the other hand we will have our pathetic 360 owners who make this like the second coming of Jesus which is also terribly annoying.

There is no winning with this situation, I need to leave the internet for a year :P

[KingDizzi]

The iPhone game though sounds like a given though, does not matter if it is MGS4 or whatever but somewhere down the line I expect a metal gear game on the iPhone. Kojima likes Apple so I am sure he will want to do something for them.

[Nathan Drake]

Wow,Xbox 360 fanboys that were jumping up and down have just been mega-owned

[Keele]

OMG MGS ON 360!! PANIC ATTACK!! KOJIMA BETRAYED US!!

And we're the ones who were jumping up and down?

[pp]

One more EXCLUSIVE lost hahahahhaha poor poor droids how's it feel is the ps3 still worth the Purchase.

[chasuk08]

Im considering purchasing a Hitman to assasinate your ass, because your are really annoying alot of people.

Just start reading up on facts instead of rumours before you start spreading your sh!t.

Your just useless and not wanted anywhere on N4G.

[heroicjanitor]

Does anyone think that the i could actually be a person? Then the exclamation mark means he was found(like the classic being discovered symbol in metal gear)? Then this means something... I haven't played any metal gear solid I'm ashamed to say but I know the basic story due to my friend being a big fan. So anyone have any idea what the power icon means? Exclamation mark in power means finding power? So anyone who finds this man finds power? Or more likely it's the iphone thing...

[Information Minister]

The world has never been the same since Microsoft invented the color green. I can no longer look at a cucumber without thinking of the Xbox 360.

/sarcasm

[jackdoe]

Makes sense. i (ipod) plus ! (which is the symbol of MG) is on. You guys do know that green is the universal symbol for go right?

[DJ]

I definitely want to play Ac!d on my iPod Touch.

[Magic_The_Celt]

LMAO awww poor bots :( i can hear them crying! make it stop! pp stop crying please :( please? il give you a butterscotch candy :D

It was quite sad really wasnt it guys? seeing all the fangirls for a brief few hours get all excited thinking they may have it.....but no...

that golden amazing, best game of 2008 remains on the PS3

sorry bots :( if you want it your going to have to

JUMP OUT

[rajman]

Its TRUEEEE

See below xD

[cow moolester]

Why are you all taking this article as fact? It's a guess...
If I were to say the teaser is for MGS Gameboy edition, would you all jump on it as fact? Because it's just as good a guess as the one made in the article

Also the bit where they use the bit "/mgst" from the URL of the page as proof it's a touch game, would it not make more sense that it means "Metal Gear Solid Teaser"?

[InMyOpinion]

Random guess = empirical evidence on N4G

[Ps_alm3k]

did you make that rajman....
that is hilarious..

[rajman]

Yesss I did ;-p

[DNAgent]

I can see Ac!d on the iphone because of the touch screen as well as a lot of people starting to make games for it. Plus it makes more sense with the i & ! being related to iphone & Ac!d especially seeing as how MGS4 had Apple products in the game.

[kindi_boy]

who the hell cares it will come out whenever it comes out on whatever it comes out on, just wait and see...damn lol konami and kojima must be laughing REALLY hard now...

[Surfman]

MGS4 was on a bluray, full 50GB and used alot of the cell's power. Why would Kojima go with a DVD9 engine and less power?

[cow moolester]

Times are tough... Studios need to do anything to get money. Bringing the game out on the 360 will allow for more revenue.

Also, MGS4 is only 33GB. The other 17GB is mostly just game data to lower load times.
With some modification, I'd say they could get the game on 3 DVDs and if they want to, release MGO as a free download on the marketplace (Afterall, people without Xbox Live won't need to play Metal Gear Online) or just go with 4 discs.

And while the 360 GPU is less powerful than the Cell, the GPU is more powerful so I'm sure they could find a way to utilise that :)

Proof of MGS4 game size- http://i32.tinypic.com/2b15...

[Covenant]

As much as I would welcome MGS on the 360, I think the theories about the iPhone or DSi are far more likely.

Those green icons, though, do make me wonder...

[Lucreto]

I would like to make a few point just for my observeration.

1. People as assuming as its green they mean the 360 but the codec is green so I think they are refering to that.

2. It says " A next Metal gear is..." There is no reference to MGS4 so we can assume it is not that.

3. http://www.konami.jp/kojima...
Look at the link. You will see the symbol and to the right to that it mentions DLC with a week to go until the 12th six months since release and the rumour for dlc for that time.

4. The power symbol has the ! symbol may not be a power symbol.

[cayal]

I completely forgot about the rumoured thing 6 months after Metal Gear was released.

[xionpunk]

12/5/08 -internetz explode

[pushingplay]

I'd for sure be down to play it on the iphone

[Nitrowolf2]

it will all be revealed soon ;)

[Nitrowolf2]

Im sure its becuase of the 6 month thing. I just hope i can still play this. But does this really mean a new MGS?

[poopsack]

lol MS owns the color green?

[NickIni]

According to some fanboys, yes, they do, along with the universal power indication symbol.

[What Da Duce]

That the MS color is the red power sign, not the green one.

D@mm1t! RRoD, ..... again.

Gotta run to GameStop.

[Timesplitter14]

EDIT : this follows the debate in reply #7. My bad

I'm back for my last comment (bubble)

Your arguments are not objective enough. What's that about the casual games? Tell me what's preventing Konami from trying to put their system-seller franchise on the iPod or iPhone or iWhatever? There aren't just music games in there. The article you mentioned talked about ''Lightsaber Unleashed'' being a best-seller. And if Metal Gear Mobile worked well (#3 spot for ''most popular Mobile game'' on gamerankings), then this must be worth it too. And this list also contains a Final Fantasy 7, Ninja Gaiden, Megaman, Arkanoid, etc...

http://www.gamerankings.com...

Mobile games aren't as casual as you may think. And because mobile phones and iPods are very popular, well Konami would be making a very profitable descision (very low developpement costs, HUGE install base).

[Kuest]

I am referring to economics, not popularity. The game rankings link you listed wholly detracts from your above contestation; if you look at overall rankings, Persona 4 seems to be a top second within the gaming community. How will this affect overall sales? Please, for your sake, do not try to shift this argument towards hardcore consumer ranking. I am interested solely with sales, and the link I used shows that the majority of these titles are causal, or user generated content.

Amusingly, you fell into my little trap when you attempted to redeploy my citation of "Unleashed" as evidence for your own argument. You failed to consider the genre of the title, and how it was drastically renovated for the iphone device. According to Henri Roth, the mobile designer, "we made our game in a sense more like a rail shooter or a Laserdisc video game". He goes on to state the mobile phone, from their point of view, is a casual device: http://www.pocketgamer.co.u...

In addition, he admitted "Third person shooters have a notoriously bad track record on cell phones". This proves my point. Any cell phone game must, in effect, be dulled down for ULTRA-SIMPLE use. Hence, this once hardcore- title featured within my link- can be looked as a sort of crystal ball for what may happen to MGS, should Konami decide to choose Iphone.

For future arguments never use information I provide you to justify your own thesis. I had been waiting to use Unleashed as justification for my argument. Now the burden of proof has shifted to you, even though you have no bubbles left.

Nonetheless, I am cruel, and you must still show me what hardcore title managed to SELL WELL, regardless of popularity; moreover explain to me the nature of said title when it was released. If you cannot address either aspect, than concede that the above artwork is at least somewhat indicative of a Microsoft/Konami collaboration.

Check and mate.
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Also to cali gamer:

The funny thing is, that's exactly how I thought of that argument!!

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Please respond to me quickly via PM, and I'll edit it unto my post. I wanna see what you got.

In any case, this was a nice little debate, though somewhat fruitless in my opinion. To be honest, speculation as to what this symbol might mean is futile. We should just wait until Konami spills the beans. So why did continue I arguing? Because I like a challenge, and TimeSplitters was a good debater. I realize you didn't have enough time, but I thank you anyways. Capish?

[Kugar77]

interesting theory, i hope its true...the reasoning makes sense

[darthv72]

The i in the iPod and the ! in ac!d. With all the apple references in the game it just makes sense.

Or it could be ac!d coming to 360 arcade. Grip shift was a psp game (like ac!d) and it came out for live arcade.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

This is just false hope for my sorry xbot's.

[Sanzee]

OH you silly Sony Fanboy, how your pessimism runs so deep!

Mainly towards Xbox fans obviously. It's quite surprising that you actually created an Account entitled "Microsoft Xbox 360" and then post comments that totally disregard the console. You must really have some strong hatred towards this console. But I have to hand it to you for being creative. Because Sony fans are losing the war (Numbers over-ride any fanboy comments, even mine), these Fans always are the first to think up something new to attack theirs rivals witsh.

Things like this just PROVE that your angry, mad, sad, depressed, and totally unable to say anything good about your own console; so instead, you slam your rivals.

Microsoft is probably excited that your giving them so much attention though.

[bviperz]

It's Kojima after all!

[Ally85]

Potentially nothing to do with what format its on. Here`s my thoughts.

i + ! = power

i(man) + ! = power

man + !(knowledge? A guard with this above his head knows where you are) = power

Therefore, a man with knowledge has power.

Plus green is the colour of envy.

A possible plot hint perhaps?

[gamfreak]

dreams shattered, 360 user gone crazy........ Ha ha ha ha, stop dreaming........ Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

[steck67]

I dont know how people come up with the idea where you think that this means a MG game is coming to the Xbox 360 because of the color... Anyways, if it does, then great; but before I was thinking it may be a wii game, but after reading this, it may be an ipod game. MGS4 had a Apple computer advertised in MGS4, the MG devs or Konami or whatever have pretty good relationships with apple. So yea, I think its possible for a MG game to come to the ipod.

i(ipod) + !(Acid) = MG Acid game for ipod.

[Sanzee]

Man it's hillarious. See, Xbox has been taking all their franchises and good titles all year long. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft attained the MGS series. However, I am actually more convinced that it's for an apple-related gaming device cause Apple said they want to get involved in the gaming industry.

But seriously. Sony fans my word of advice for you.
- Stop b*tching about the fact that your losing good game titles to the Xbox.
- For god's sake, stop milking the RRoD issue. Seriously. You can only squeeze so much milk from the utter of stupidity. Jasper fixed this problem. But your still milking it cause it's the only thing you can use against us.

Amen.

[PirateThom]

*drinks Metal Gear Soda*

Lulz

[What Da Duce]

The answer has been in front of your eyes the whole time. Isn't it obvious that they are talking about doing the next MGS completely in Spanish. ¡Por qué! As in, WHY!! would you do this to us. ^^

(Scarcasim ... I don't actually believe this and the backwards itallics haven't been invented yet. ha ha)

[rockbottom3076]

But Im praying to play it on the iphone. It would be great for work plus my stock in apple will start to rise to greatness again. this would cement the iphone for a great gaming platform.

ps The iphone and touch are going to be getting twice the memory soon thanks to Samsung! The harddrive and ability to download games at a whime will let it blow past the likes of PSP. No harddrive and a doomed UMD format held back the PSP IMO.

[What Da Duce]

The PSP would suck with a harddrive. They should just increase internal flash memory. (btw iPod touch uses flash memory.)

I bring up this difference because flash memory is a much quicker way to play games and, for portable devices, should be the storage of choice. Harddrives should now stick only to consoles (If Sony goes with a harddrive based PSP I will buy one for the sole purpose of smashing it.) The flash memory is what makes the iTouch so appealing for a gaming device now, among other reasons.

If I can play MGS on my iTouch, seemlessly, I will be a happy man-boy. Because the PSP version was a huge let down, TO ME.

[darkdoom3000]

i + ! = On.
i = Ipod
! = Ac!d
thus

ipod + Ac!d = On.
=> rearrange the formula (subtract "ipod" from both sides)

Acid = On - ipod
/remove symbols/ =>
Ac!d On iPod!!!

Ac!d On iPod => 360 roumors =/= true

[Hot_tea]

I thought it meant that the ps3 was finally getting that most coveted of Xbox franchises Kabuki Warriors.
DAMN

http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...