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Game emulation: Is it morally defensible?

Many retro gamers have asked the question: Are emulators illegal?  The answer is no; you can download them without a problem. Don’t get excited, though. The emulators are legal, but they are kind of useless on their own.

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ApocalypseShadow1129d ago (Edited 1129d ago )

Emulation is an interesting thing. It's not right but it's also right when it comes to game preservation of decades old games. Or even making the game look better or run better than the hardware that ran those games. Or the televisions that had limited resolution and scan lines.

Not only that, but fans of these old games have released fully translated languages of foreign ROMS for others to understand and enjoy those games that the developer never got around to doing or thought of doing or release in another country.

Some ROMS have fixed bugs. Some have returned music or characters or moves to games that were taken out from porting to more censor heavy counties and the games can be played as originally intended.

There are games that no longer have an owner because the parent company is no more. Creating new fans of an old title. Some hacks of these old ROMS have crossovers of playable characters that were never in the original release because most companies never collaborate. All these things and more are part of the emulation and ROMS discussion.

It should never be right to "test" a new release game as the developers should be paid for their hard work and dedication. Games that are 20, 30, even 40 years old that made their money and never see the light of day today because the parent company is only happy to sit on history. Those games are a little hazy like an old copyright or trademark that expires. As long as you're not selling or profiting off of playing old titles, the crime is a little bit easier to swallow.

AnnaDea1128d ago

I agree with everything except this.

"Or even making the game look better or run better than the hardware that ran those games. Or the televisions that had limited resolution and scan lines."

One problem is that some emulators runs the game faster than intended so it becomes a problem with the clock speed. And all these games were made with the amount of pixels that are shown on a crt. So those teves produces the best available picture of a retro game. Today you need to have scalers and filters that makes the games look like ass most of the time.

luckytrouble1128d ago

Well, the big example people usually use when they say a game looks better is Dolphin. And you can probably expect the same from PS3 emulation long term as well. Really retro definitely needs a little help to look the best it can be, but by and large emulators account for that anyways in default options.

ManMarmalade1128d ago (Edited 1128d ago )

There are plenty of mods to fix a lot of those issues. Here's a specific one from Jan 2019 that upscales PS1 graphics:
https://www.pcgamer.com/mod...

AnnaDea1128d ago

You people can just look at this picture and decide for yourselves which looks better.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

Scanlines help enhancing the pictures and this is what I mean when I say that the games were made with scanlines in mind.

uth111127d ago

The good emulators do things "cycle exact" which will make the game run at the correct speed. PC emulation presents a problem because some old PC games were developed to run correctly on the PCs of the mid 80s, but didn't anticipate the ever increasing clock speeds of the platform. Some of those games will run way too fast now. Some have patches available to fix this.

Not every scaler is great, but SD content tends to look awful on HD screens, and some scalers will provide CRT-like emulation that displays the game closer to how it looked back then, so I like to use the ones that do this well

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ManMarmalade1128d ago (Edited 1128d ago )

I use a ps1 emulator because of my budget. The pandemic shut down the art events I was attending which took away about half of my income and I was forced to sell a lot of my physical possessions, including a lot of my older games, trading cards and other collectibles and media. Getting a ps1 emulator is the best way I have been coping with a lot of the stress that's been happening the past year and also re-living my childhood with games like rival schools, croc, and even playing teletubbies when I smoke 😅

ShadowWolf7121128d ago

You're conflating Emulation with Piracy. They're not interchangeable terms.

Orchard1128d ago

I personally don’t see any problem with emulating a game provided it isn’t readily available anymore - either via the original console + game being on sale or via backwards compatibility.

Ristul1128d ago

Emulating hardware is not illigal, we can even make backups of our games.

Pirating is a different issue.

Shiken1128d ago (Edited 1128d ago )

As long as you directly rip the game from your actual copy yourself is it legal. Downloading and distribution of the ROMs themselves is still illegal, even if you already own a copy in its physical form.

Duke191128d ago (Edited 1128d ago )

YoU wOuLdN’T DoWnLoAD a CaR!!

Lol

deleted1128d ago

Just you wait, the 3D printing technology will eventually get there! XD

XxINFERNUSxX1128d ago

If that was possible with torrents I would actually 😁👍

isarai1128d ago

Easily yes, there are games that only exist through emulation now. Not only that, it's not like the devs/publishers get anything out of these games. Emulation is 99.99% for games no longer in print, so whether you pay or not makes no difference to them. Only one standing to gain is some rando who just happens to have the game, likely at an absurd price. It's great for preservation, and for those that want to experience the devs work without having to pay potentially hundreds of dollars, or spend days, or even years hunting down a copy.

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How And Why Online Multiplayer Is Still A Thing For Dreamcast

A trailblazer for online gaming, some players are still holding a candle for Dreamcast.

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purple1011d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

such a shame, its my fav console by far. it was way better than ps1, problem was ps2 was due to come out, a year or so later, and many just waited for that, especially after the flop that was the Saturn,. (even though it way okay, it didn't sell well,).

ps1 did sell well, a lot of those fans waited for ps2. thus, the downfall of Dreamcast,,

Jingsing16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Every console is responsible for its own destiny, You don't go around pointing fingers at him or her or anybody, cowards do that and that ain't you! you're better than that!

lodossrage16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Not true,

The Dreamcast falling apart was because Sega couldn't make up the pay for the increasing debt from the Sega Master System, Game Gear, 32x, Sega CD, and Sega Saturn. The Dreamcast and Genesis were profitable. But the profits weren't outpacing the debt plus interest.

It had nothing to do with anyone waiting for the PS2

MetroidFREAK2115h ago

You're forgetting the most important part of the story. Sega was losing so much money so fast due to their past failures, they couldn't sustain the business. Even if the PS2 did help the demise of the system, the true blame is Sega themselves

lodossrage12h ago

Exactly

Even Bernie Stolar R.I.P (former Sega exect) admitted in an interview past debt was what hurt the Dreamcast.

Everyone says "Sony killed Sega" when that's not even remotely true. Not just that, but most of their debt came from fighting Nintendo, not Sony

ZeekQuattro10h ago

This. The only truly successful home platform Sega made was the Genesis. Every thing else flopped to varying degrees. The real culprits were Sega of Japan and Sega of America which went to war against each other for some odd reason.

Chocoburger20h ago

I bought a DreamPi to play both Dreamcast and Saturn online! So far I'm only played with two people online with Saturn, and I need to spend more time with the Dreamcast community in order to play with them. I miss ChuChu Rocket online, good times!

Profchaos19h ago

P2P there's even Sega genisis games that still connect online based on this.

Hosted servers wasn't really something I saw regularly on non oc platforms until the 360 era.

Ravenkiss15h ago

The Dreamcast was easily my favorite console of all time, home of many good fighting games

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Report: Sexual Misconduct Investigation Conducted at EA, Suspects Named and What They Did Revealed

EA senior staff has been investigated for sexual misconduct involving female coworkers, and these said people have been named publicly.

isarai1d 22h ago

Aye just call Phil, i mean he somehow made Bobby Kotick's scandal disappear and gave him a few million dollar high five on the way out.

Cacabunga1d 13h ago

I wonder if it will be censored with some in game ads.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

EA about to go down like Activision and then Phil saves the day saying.this is good for the industry and consolidation will help create competition. /s.

ravens521d 17h ago

What's up with all these horny creeps. You gon be horny, fine. Just not at work take care of that shit before you go in. Rub one out if you have to. Don't be a creep at all. ESPECIALLY at work. But don't be one AT ALL.

Extermin8or3_1d 12h ago

I mean part of the issue is that things transpired outside of work....

KwietStorm_BLM1d 12h ago

You think deviants care where they are? Work sometimes makes it an even better situation for them because they can abuse their power.

mudakoshaka20h ago

Nerds think they are Gods when they are making video games.

NotoriousWhiz1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

"it seems that according to EA, given the events transpired outside of work between two adults, and the fact that once investigation has started that the alleged perpetrators didn’t do it again, the investigation is considered closed. [...] The victim still has to work with the people that harassed her."

Yep, EA is disgusting.

Extermin8or3_1d 12h ago

I mean the fact stuff happened outside of work puts EA in quite a difficult position legally. These women don't seem to have reported the matter to the police which kinda ties EA's hands on what they can do. If they don't file reports of the crimes then yeah from EA's perspective it is stuff that happened outside of work. The only exception is the guy that apparently referenced things in the slack channel for work, spending on what he said proving it may be very hard and he may well be able to get away with plausible deniability. I don't like EA and I think these people need to be dismissed but without any legal action being taken, EA can't really do much without risk of being sued themselves for unfair dismissal etc.

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Xbox No Longer Has Its Head In The Game

Microsoft & Xbox have shut down Arkane Austin and Tango Gameworks to lay off more workers, insinuating that they're not in the game anymore.

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

They're headless for a long time because closing tango isn't exactly a good move

PapaBop1d 15h ago

Ever since that cringe Kinect reveal they've never been the same. They used to make some amazing games and do great deals with third parties Early on in the 360 era they had games like Chromehounds and Shadowrun, both well ahead of their time. Now instead of nurturing their studios, they'd rather gaslight gamers and throw billions on pre existing studios. Not sure how Spencer is still in a job, I wouldn't trust him to organise a piss-up in a brewery.

Father__Merrin1d 15h ago

We've said all along Spencer needs to go. I wish xbox went back to xbox only with new gears fable forza halo releases lots of third party releases

Those early rainbow 6 Vegas days and phantasy star universe are gone forever

S2Killinit1d 12h ago

MS has its head in the game but the game they are playing is something different from what console gamers expect from a platform. MS’s end game has always been to use the xbox as a trojan horse.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 10h ago

Lol that's funny well this plan they have isn't working homie

1Victor2d ago

“Acquisitions always come with cuts”

343 trillion points shield activated
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All damage reduced to 1 for 343 trillion turns.
MICROSOFT DEFENSE FORCE IS A GO

Tacoboto2d ago

Especially for Microsoft, when Booty pretty much said they didn't know how to handle that many studios.

Why even make the acquisition then.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Didn’t they make the swipe for Bethesda when Sony wanted like 6 months exclusiveness for Starfield

It’s like…chill, you got Rise of the Tomb Raider for a year.

romulus232d ago

Do they always come with senseless cuts becasue that's exactly what cutting Tango was, senseless.

H92d ago

Everyone's acting now that game companies care about games and Xbox is committing the Ultimate betrayal, they are all like this and you have just been quiet about it for far too long

Nuclearmoon2d ago

I wonder if Microsoft do pull out of the console market that it might open the door for valve to relaunch the Steambox. Competition is good for the industry but Microsoft don't even seem to be trying anymore.

UltimateOwnage2d ago

Steam / Valve are one of the few truly pro-consumer bright spots in gaming right now. Thankfully.

Jingsing16h ago

From all the money Valve make from Steam they reinvest almost 0 into creating new AAA titles for the PC platform, Absolutely no giving nothing back in that regard. Wake up.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“Your game has won some pretty significant awards and is a show piece for where we want to go in the future.”

1 hour later.

“We’re gonna have to let you go. You can’t cover our 100 billion dollar acquisition. Oh and take your awards too 👍🏾”

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