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Phil Spencer could stop Starfield from coming to PS5 - Operation PlayStation

DASH and PAJ sit down to discuss the possibility of Phil Spencer forcing Bethesda to cut ties with other gaming platforms as hinted during the Bethesda Roundtable. This could potentially affect titles such as Starfield, Elder Scrolls VI and others from making their way to PS5.

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Jin_Sakai1147d ago (Edited 1147d ago )

He could stop any Bethesda game from coming to PS5. Luckily he’s honoring current deals such as Deathloop. My guess is Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6 won’t be coming to PS5 which is a bummer.

lifeisgamesok1147d ago (Edited 1147d ago )

The hype for Starfield could have the reverse effect. That game better be great with the way some have been hyping it but yeah I would like Elder Scrolls 6 on PS5 though it's unlikely

anubusgold1147d ago

It was said microsoft bought bethesda because sony was trying to buy a Starfield exclusive deal.

UltraNova1146d ago

Of course it's going to be exclusive to xbox/pc it doesn't make sense spending that much money buying Bethesda otherwise.

MS is finally wise to the whole exclusivity deal.

Sonic-and-Crash1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

why we r surprised by this ?...this is the reason MS bought Zenimax to have the big games exclusive ...completely understandable and acceptable by me ...this is how competiton should work with exclusives and everyone with his preferences ....Buy PS5 for Horizon ,Bloodborne etc , Buy Xbox for Starfield , elder scrolls etc ...

Atom6661146d ago

I'm going to make a bold prediction: Starfield will be heavily praised by one fanbase and blindly hated on by another.

Lots of insightful 0 out of 10 user reviews will be written. Lots of unknown websites will see their clickbait reviews leap to the front of N4G.

Round and round we go...

Godmars2901146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

@Sonic-and-Crash:
Only that's not what MS have been saying since entering the industry.

"Exclusives don't matter"

They've bought exclusive DLC, repeatedly touted having access to multiplats first, yet have only held that exclusives are not important. This while failing to develop in house IP, needing to buy new IP not Halo Gears or Forza, studios with high profile IPs, only to then fail to continue to create new in house IPs with the "new" studios they just bought. Those studios being left to rot till they're eventually closed, their devs moved around, until - maybe - they're reformed into a new studio or totally different devs get put together under a reformed studio, work on old IPs, that - *somehow* - aren't as good as the originals.

Even if MS has changed their minds about the importance of exclusives, they have well established bad habits of which buying a formally multiplat publisher proves nothing.

Babadook71146d ago

Until Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6 are confirmed as Xbox console exclusive I don’t really care what hints Spencer gives.

badz1491146d ago

I would pretty much love to see MS try this. block the game from PS consoles and make it day 1 on GP. big win for xbox

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kneon1146d ago

There's hype for Starfield? I hadn't even heard about it before today.

But as to stopping it from releasing on other platforms that will depend on what contracts were in place beforehand.

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seanpitt231147d ago

Every Bethesda game apart from deathloop will not be coming to ps5, Microsoft needs AAA games just to be on Xbox and pc. This will shift more Xbox’s

stefd751146d ago

A much as I want to play Starfield and ES6 It wont make me buy an Xbox just for a few games, I made that mistake with the Xbox One S. In the end if they dont want my business then so be it. They know they could make so much money releasing those games on PS5 but i guess they aint bothered about money so much but more Gamepass subs. its ok in the end, i sure there will be other games I will play in their place.

Bronbron921146d ago

I don’t think that’ll happen I mean that’s a lot of money lost to making it only for Xbox

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BattleCat1147d ago (Edited 1147d ago )

Honoring deals, made before the rat stole the company? There are still some rules and even Microsoft can't buy them all. If he don't "honors" the paid deals with Sony, he would have to pay much money to Sony :)

bneals1146d ago

"Stole the company?". They paid over 7 billion for the company. You might not like the deal, but it has nothing to do with theft.

As for prior deals, Zenimax was contractually obligated to give those times exclusives so MS can't change that.

VenomUK1146d ago

@BattleCat I get people disagreeing with opinion, but it's immature to disagree with facts. The Deathloop and GhostWire Tokyo deals are not exclusive because of a handshake, they are not remaining exclusive because of Phil Spencer's honour, they are remaining timed exclusives because of legally binding contracts.

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DJStotty1146d ago

@BattleCat

That is a fine blend of salt your sprinkling there!!!

On topic, looking forward to Starfield and ES6 on gamepass day 1 :p

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FPS_D3TH1146d ago

Luckily? Lmao it would’ve been no joke of a penalty paid to Sony should Microsoft had cancelled the contract

alb18991146d ago

I don't even understand why you guys are talking about that, it is not an issue and dose two won't hurt MS, they will just let flavor in your mouth of what Sony is losing. Startfield and all other games will be exclusive for PC or any Gamepass user.

gamer78041146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

Games that don’t have a current contract or isn’t an mmo will not come to PlayStation. PlayStation wouldn’t put Spider-Man on Xbox so why should Xbox do the sesame it makes no sense. Atleast is ps users will have the option to stream with gamespass

jukins1146d ago

...so why is minecraft still getting new games and content on ps? ....

gamer78041145d ago

@jukins Minecraft was already an ongoing multiplayer title existing on ps4. Phil said they will continue to support games like that.

Godmars2901146d ago

Would be amusing for MS to make them exclusive, only the games to release with typical Betheda bugs.

Of course they'd be patched out eventually since sadly that's become an accepted trend, one that Bethesda and others started no less, but still no less amusing.

SullysCigar1146d ago

I played Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 4 around 3 years after each released, because I figured they'd have patched out the bugs by then.

I was wrong; Skyrim STILL has a game breaking bug meaning it can't be fully completed unless you happen to have made a particular choice earlier in the game lol

Fallout '76 was just broken beyond redemption, so I skipped it entirely.

The (presumed) timed exclusivity for ES6 will probably only be for a year, meaning it will launch in a more finished state on PS5. I'll probably not even be ready to play it at that stage, so really don't mind waiting anyway lol

Darkborn1146d ago

He honoring a contract that he wasn't a part of. Much like the games Bethesda is currently developing. After these games come out, be ready for Bethesda games that are A and AA for game pass.

MadLad1146d ago

Care to back up why games are low quality/budget when knowing they're coming to gamepass?

AngelicIceDiamond1146d ago

"be ready for Bethesda games that are A and AA for game pass."

Amusing as usual what gives you that indication.

NeoGamer2321146d ago

My take is that we should quit speculating whether it will or will not and wait for the announcements.

Personally, I think it will come to PS5. If Starfield is this close to release then in September there would've been a PS version well into development. In the past with games on developers MS have acquired the games came to their announced platforms that were in development. Psychonauts 2 is the most current example as it is coming to PS as well.

CBaoth1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

I can see points for both. Obviously no explanation needed if MS decides to keep those IPs exclusive. But if MS is indeed interested more in GP subs, I could totally see Bethesda's big games coming to PS5. Huh? What I just say? Sounds crazy. I'd laugh my arse off if MS adopts Sony's own pricepoint too. Day 1 on PS5 @ $69.99 or included free with a GP sub on XBox/PC. What a selling point - right there on the PSN store being advertised by Sony to boot. Who will the N4G Hive call out though?

Oh and I agree - worthless speculating any further till Puxatawny Phil spills the beans

1Victor1146d ago

Could he stop the Bethesda games form going to PlayStation yes would he NO there’s contracts and clauses that would have to be fulfilled before doing so be it monetary or another game, so it’s better to let it run it’s course and evade a lot of trouble down the road. Microsoft isn’t build by nice guys, it’s build on top of their graves tho by no means is Sony any different remember big corporations only care about the money the more they can get the better

frostypants1146d ago

He doesn't really have a choice BUT to honor existing contractual obligations.

Guitardr851146d ago

Meh...I realized this past week that I've always ended up playing Bethesda games on the PC anyway....ugh better modding community there bs consoles.

CaptainHenry9161146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

Glad I got a PC so I can play everything. If you truly want to play Starfield just get a Series S or build a PC it's not that hard. But what's funny is Phil Spencer said exclusives don't matter 😂😂

blacktiger1146d ago

Sony could stop thats worth hundreds of millions of dollar they have with Azure server

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XiNatsuDragnel1147d ago

If so I'm pleasant by making them exclusive now make them true exclusive that means come to Xbox only no PC.

anubusgold1147d ago

*&^%*&^& you im playing on pc i got a 3070 so shut your mouth console peasant .

cammers19951146d ago

Are you literally retarded?

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DJStotty1146d ago

lol "console peasant"

That made me chuckle, in regards to your comment, i am in the process of building a new PC, so i will soon be joining the PC gang.

northpaws1146d ago

@anubusgold

I am a ps fanboy, I don't care about starfield, and I don't like Xbox. But you shut your damn month and leave us console players alone.

Pickledpepper1146d ago

@anubusgold. Spoken like a true pc hermit geek lol. Go get a girlfriend and some fresh air.

BrettAwesome1146d ago

@Anusgobbler
Oh...soooooo cool. A 3070... so...the 4th best card on the market. Impressive... 😂😂😂

anubusgold1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

@stevej336
i can buy 10 3090 cards im not paying over MSRP. I just bought a whole computer just to get the 3070 out of it. Im not a apple fan like you steve i dont over pay because i dont know any better like you.

anubusgold1146d ago

@Pickledpepper I got two ex wives i got the divorce papers to prove it lol.

anubusgold1146d ago

@BrettAwesome I can buy 3090s all day if they were at the price they launched im not helping the scalpers .

Shiken1146d ago

@anubusgold

"I got two ex wives and the papers to prove it!"

It is like you are asking to get flamed dude...

anubusgold1146d ago

@Shiken is your mom hot? I'll give it one more go she better cook and clean.

RedDevils1146d ago

3070 is not even 4th best card on the market LMAO, shut up 3070 peasant lol

Pickledpepper1145d ago

@anubusgold pmsl it's kind of obvious why you have 2 EX wives.
If you had paid them as much attention as you do your beloved pc then maybe, just maybe one of them may not have been an Ex

anubusgold1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

@Pickledpepper No im sure it was because they were bitches. I dont let no damn woman control me. When they stop putting out and they bitch at you i dont need em out they go. That one bitch i was only married to for 3 months she lost her mind after the wedding and i was like hell no you fake bitch im out.

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lelo2play1147d ago (Edited 1147d ago )

Why would Microsoft do that? PC gaming isn't a direct competitor to console gaming.
Even Sony are bringing their games to PC.

XiNatsuDragnel1147d ago

I think it goes against the idea of exclusive content plus I'm old gamer who like my console only true exclusives sorry folks.

neutralgamer19921146d ago

lelo2play

While you have a valid point sony so far have brought handful of older titles. I doubt they would release some of their biggest ps5 exclusives on pc. Unlike ms sony also wants to sell their box (ms do too but they make money off pc market too so they aren't only focused on xbox)

DJStotty1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

"Even Sony are bringing their games to PC."

That is not the same!!! (say all PS fanboys) /s

@neutralgamer1992

"While you have a valid point sony so far have brought handful of older titles."

Still a good few :-

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

lonewolf101147d ago

"I think it goes against the idea of exclusive content plus I'm old gamer who like my console only true exclusives sorry folks."

Not many of those around nowadays.

XiNatsuDragnel1147d ago

I know right I feel so old lol

LordoftheCritics1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

It's 2021, in case you forgot.

XiNatsuDragnel1146d ago

I don't care fam tbh I prefer the old days then all these unpolished games of 2021 so you right.

Daeloki1146d ago

This is a ridiculous line of thought and one that only favours the companies. Developers need to move away from the whole exclusivity idea, not change former multi-platform franchises into exclusives. And gamers need to stop encouraging exclusives, and realize that more people being able to play the same game doesn't take away from your experience.

The only way I can imagine exclusivity being justified, is if it's developed specifically to utilize a certain platforms hardware. Like Astro showcasing the Dualsense controller, or the sport games on Switch. I can sorta even see how it's "safer" for developers that have always only worked for one platform, to stick with it. But going from multi-platform to exclusive to one platform is just a huge step backwards and only serves to divide gamers.

lelo2play1146d ago

You're in the minority. You may want console exclusives to compare lists with other console fanboys (simply to fuel console wars), but Sony and Microsoft like money. Releasing a game on their console and PC makes them more money.

LordoftheCritics1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

There is nothing wrong with living in your own world, just don't merge it with reality.

slavish01146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

m$ own windows. this is like tell sony not to release their console ip on vita, they own both platforms. I dont understand fanboys. How does excluding a group make your gaming experience better? It childish and makes no business sense.

MadLad1146d ago

Fanboys need to downplay anything the other guys are doing.
Microsoft just acquired a bunch of awsrd winning studios ready to pump out quality content, and also have a fantastic subscription service giving people easy access to it?

Well it doesn't matter because you can also play them on PC, so they don't even count. Because reasons ...

DJStotty1146d ago

No because PC is still within Microsoft's ecosystem.

MadLad1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

They are true exclusives. They are a MS exclusive. They have vested stake in both the console space, as well as PC.
These are games you can only play on one closed platform. They are games you will only find in one part of the game section in stores. They will only be available through one company's gaming service.

The only people I see trying to downplay these games as exclusives are the "other team" trying to delegitimize that these titles are a Microsoft exclusive.
So just because it can't only be had on a console, it doesn't make them a "real" exclusive? At the end of the day, you can't play them by buying a Playstation. You can't play them by buying a Switch. You can't play them without buying into some aspect of the MS ecosystem, whether that be through the purchase of an Xbox, or downloading their storefront on PC and paying for Gamepass.

Sounds pretty "real" and "exclusive" to me.

XiNatsuDragnel1146d ago

Lol I Guess I'm an old gen gamer who likes having an appeal to a console without considering getting a PC but hey I love PS2/GCN Days tho so yeah...

warriorcase1146d ago

Why on earth would Microsoft limit their own ecosystem?

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Exvalos1147d ago

Guys....look the dream is over Microsoft paid 7.5 billion dollars, they didnt do that to put games on playstation, they want you in there ecosystem. I'm a Sony gamer but more importantly I'm a Bethesda fan so I know how you all feel. Be we gotta let them go or get an xbox. Choice is yours.

ScootaKuH1146d ago

Or have a ps5 and PC. Still no real reason to buy an xbox. At least for me

itsmebryan1146d ago

Sony said they will be bringing more "exclusives "to PC so actually there is no reason to buy a PS5 or Xbox by your logic. The PC will have the superior version of any game.

Pricey1146d ago

Sigh it's not quite the same though is it. But you crack on if it makes you happy Bryan. Ignorance is bliss so I'm told.

Tedakin1146d ago

MS doesn't care if you buy their Xbox. Playing their games on PC is still a win for them.

DJStotty1146d ago

"Or have a ps5 and PC. Still no real reason to buy an xbox. At least for me"

But what if you do not currently own a PC? choices are :-

1 - Series S @ £250 (ish)
2 - Series X @ £450 (ish)
3 - Gaming PC @ £1200+ (ish)

#commonsense

itsmebryan1146d ago

Well @ pricey
Please explain your point. Don't just make snarky comments.

gerbintosh1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

@itsmebryan

The problem with your logic is that Sony brings their exclusive games to pc years later (at least 3 years so far). MS exclusive games are day 1 on PC. So the reason to buy a PS5 is to not wait years for a game to come to PC. While me having a PC means i dont need to buy an Xbox

gerbintosh1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

@DJStotty

A gaming pc is not required for game pass or other streaming services like Stadia, Amazon Luna, or Nvidia streaming service. As long as the game being played isnt competitive multiplayer, like COD, those streaming services should work just fine for playing games

rlow11146d ago

True, but will you buy the games by themselves or go with Gamepass? Either way you ultimately pay Xbox.

itsmebryan1146d ago

@gerb
Where did Sony say games will take years to come to PC? Do you have a link?

RedDevils1146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

MS just make sure I don't need to get a XSX because every games they own will be on PC. So why bother it save me money lol

@Stotty who here doesn't own a PC that could run 1080p at the very least?

anubusgold1145d ago

@DJStotty
Or buy a cheap rebuilt and upgrade it . Most pcs mostly need a new gpu, cpu , or powersupply. People have bought cheap prebuilts and put a new graphics card or cpu in it and they are gaming for 600 to 800 dollars and they arent stuck at 60 fps they are gaming at 100+ fps at 1080P or 1440P with ultra detail.

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Ninver1146d ago

Only Bethesda game I actually liked was Wolfenstein. I'm not getting an xbox for one game lol

Highrevz1146d ago

After battlefront 2 drama there seems to be less micro transactions in games now, times have changed and that is a win for gamers.

Same with Cyberpunk, developers are more scared now then ever I would say. The internet voiced there opinions and it’s going to benefit all future games.

Deeeeznuuuts1146d ago

Same, mine was doom, I am going to be a not gutted but like you said, not buying a system for one game.

RedDevils1146d ago

The worst case scenario get it on PC lol

kneon1146d ago

The only Bethesda games I played were Fallout, I gave up on that series half way through FO4 out of boredom

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Mikeyy1146d ago

PS5 and PC, do not reward them with an Xbox sale or gamepass subscription.

Give them then minimum amount of money via steam and enjoy elderscrolls 6 on pc, with mods.

iplay1up21146d ago (Edited 1146d ago )

What are you talking about? Xbox has a whole mod community. Skyrim, Falout, and a ton of other games have a hundreds of mods on Xbox. It is Playstation that doesn't have mod communities.

anubusgold1146d ago

@iplay1up2 Playstation had mods for unreal tournament 3

RedDevils1146d ago

Bethesda's games is known to be plays on PC.

lifeisgamesok1147d ago (Edited 1147d ago )

I like Bethesda a little but I'm more than satisfied with what Sony has announced and for future PS5 games that will start streaming huge chunks of data through the SSD for some unbelievable games

Highrevz1147d ago

All Bethesda games suddenly “suck” and next it will be Starfield 😂 cool

Thundercat771146d ago

It reminds me of how Hell Blade was hated by the Xbox community when it ws exclusive to PS4 but when it was released on Xbox, it suddenly was a master piece.

wiz71911146d ago

The because Hellblade is a game you have to experience it to enjoy. It’s a great game but no masterpiece though.

Highrevz1146d ago

@Wiz7191

Spot on tbf

I can’t speak for other gamers but that’s my view on Hellblade

anast1146d ago

True, but Starfield will probably suck even if it is a mulitplat. game. Bethesda makes dated games that feel old. I'm willing to eat my words if I am wrong, but something tells me I won't be.

RedDevils1146d ago

It's still just an ok game, not great but not bad either.

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LoveSpuds1146d ago

I wouldn't say Bethesda developed games suck, but I cannot say that I pine for their next release either. They well and truly have gone off the boil and have a lot to prove before I start worrying that I might miss out on anything considered essential.

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Interview on Fallout 4 with the Actor for Nick Valentine, Codsworth & Mr Handy (Stephen Russell)

Interview with Stephen Russell, Actor for (Nick Valentine, Codsworth, My Handy) in Fallout 4 which is a vast open world role playing game set in the apocalyptic wastes of Boston, the Commonwealth. The career goes further with other Bethesda games from Starfield to Prey to The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.

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How Starfield Remains a Success Story In The Face of Failure

Expectations for Starfield were sky-high, and while many felt it fell short of them, raw sales and other statistics tell a different tale.

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anast5d ago

The stats can say anything, because they don't release the stuff that counts.

Scissorman5d ago

Agreed. I'd love to know the budget on this one to be honest. What was it? 6-8 years in development?

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Howard said this game had been a concept for 25 years. Let that sink in.

TwoPicklesGood5d ago

I play it on Steam and it’s phenomenal.

Flewid6385d ago

I have it on GamePass PC and I have yet to encounter a single wow moment.

Vits5d ago

The ship building is kinda cool... And that's about it. In all seriousness, I don't think it's a bad game, but violently mediocre with some really head-scratching choices that made me go "why" rather than "wow" more often than not.

DustMan5d ago

Same here. Not saying it's the best they've ever released, but the hate it gets is pretty absurd. I've been completely enjoying the 50 or so hours I've dropped into it.

Flewid6384d ago

To be fair, I have yet to play a single Bethesda game that I found enjoyable. The whole "talking to cardboard cutouts from the uncanny valley" thing is tolerable in games like Mass Effect, but it loses me completely in Bethesda titles.

Flewid6385d ago

Hunger is the best spice. lol.

Knightofelemia5d ago

I'll never forget advertised as an open world sandbox game but you run into invisible Star Trek barriers when exploring. GTA has never done that and neither has No Man's Sky. If people love this game good for them I am not touching it. And if Microsoft does say port this game to Playstation I am still not touching this game.

DustMan5d ago

I started playing a few weeks ago and am enjoying it thoroughly. Perfect, absolutely not. Yet it's nowhere near as bad as what people make it out to be. Plenty of quests to get side tracked with. The gunplay has been tightened up significantly in my opinion since Fallout 4. I originally listened to the online crowd absolutely crap on the game and made me curious to see if it was that bad. It's not. It's a good and fun game. It just didn't live up to the developer hype and peoples expectations. Which wouldn't be the first time Bethesda, or Microsoft promised the world, and gave us the moon.

I will say that the beginning few story missions really kind of drag, but once you unlock powers it picks up. I think that first few hours soured a lot of folks who left it behind before really digging in to it. Which is understandable.

jwillj2k45d ago

First few hours??? How about the first 130 hours according to the developers. Need to get past 130hrs to start enjoying the game.

Hugodastrevas5d ago

That's when the Stockholm syndrome kicks in

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Bethesda Might Have Dropped A Major Clue For Starfield Shattered Space DLC In May Update

Bethesda may have just dropped a major hint regarding the upcoming Shattered Space DLC for its action role-playing game, Starfield.

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