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The possibility of XBOX Game Pass on PlayStation 5 - Dash Gamer Podcast

Dan Rizzo & Brendan White discuss the Bethesda/XBOX Buyout and the consequences that may be felt throughout the entire industry, and how XBOX may potentially hold the key to open that forbidden portal. Could we in fact see XBOX Game Pass on PlayStation 5?

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XiNatsuDragnel1145d ago

If true then console war will be over in my opinion.

PrimeVinister1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

It has debatably been in a tense cease-fire for a couple of years but you are right, it would be the end of it as we know it.

Sonic-and-Crash1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

if Gamepass appears on PS then its the end of PStation ..i dont think it will ever happen...Also what s the difference with PS Plus ?? really ? in my eyes PS Plus offers the exact same things and even let you have the games to your PLus library forever

xHeavYx1145d ago

@Sonic
The end of Playstation? Are you out of your mind? Playstation has been outselling Xbox from the beginning, being able to play Xbox titles on Playstation would mean that even less people would be buying an Xbox.
Also, no, GamePass and PS+ are nothing alike. I do wish GamePass was available on Playstation, but it would mean the end for the Xbox console.

crazyCoconuts1144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

Cease fire? So you think when Sony and MS have their board meetings they're not talking about strategies that pull customers from the other side? I mean... they're competitors. Just because we see a few games that are cross platform doesn't mean they're not in an intense war for our $$$

Mr_Writer851144d ago

@sonic

Plus and Game Pass are not comparable at all

Plus:
Cheaper
Required to play online
Monthly games (usually old, unless it's an indie game)

GP
Lots more game
More expensive
Doesn't include online (unless you get ultimate)
Has all MS first party titles on it, and they launch on day one.

Not comparable in the slightest. The nearest you get to game pass on PlayStation is PSNow.

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neutralgamer19921144d ago

If that happens the install base for xbox would diminish even more. If and that's a huge if that ever happens ms would become a content software company. The biggest reasonif you never happen because Xbox live generates too much money for Microsoft for them to give up on Xbox brand

Who in the right mind would buy Xbox if they could play on Xbox games PlayStation along with all the PlayStation games

enkiduxiv1144d ago

I don't know why people are downvoting this. You are absolutely correct. The 7.5 billion dollar acquisition was all about giving XBOX some highly desirable exclusives so they could better compete with PlayStation and Nintendo. Putting Game Pass on PlayStation would basically just be handing this exclusivity back over to Sony.

I understand they would still make money from the subscription, but at that point they would simply be operating like a big publisher, like Activision, EA or Ubisoft.

DJStotty1145d ago

That will never ever happen, again Sony will never allow a competing platform on their platform, ever.

GamerRN1145d ago

I highly doubt it will happen. It'll hurt Xbox from a hardware perspective

DJStotty1145d ago

Not only that, Sony would not allow competition for PSNOW on their platform, Microsoft would make more money via gamepass subs on Sony's platform, the xbox hardware perspective would stay the same, they do not sell enough hardware to warrant a significant financial impact.

GamerRN1145d ago

LoL they don't sell enough hardware? What are you talking about lol

GamerRN1145d ago

@DJStotty

By that logic, Sony wouldn't feel any financial impact as they likely don't make anything on the failed PSNow network

darthv721145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

DJ, they could make a mutual agreement. PS gets GP, XB gets PSNow. Both offer streaming as an option on devices that dont support native downloads.

MS and Sony already have a deal inked on the use of Azure and it wouldnt be much to add in cross platform streaming.

Livingthedream1145d ago

Only hurts them if they put their xbox exclusives on the service

DJStotty1145d ago

@GamerRN

For a "significant" financial impact, how much do they make on each console at the moment?

If anything, they are probably making a loss on the consoles sold.

"By that logic, Sony wouldn't feel any financial impact as they likely don't make anything on the failed PSNow network"

That makes no sense.

So you think Gamepass being on Playstation, will result in less consoles sold for xbox, and no gamepass subscribers on Playstation? What?

DJStotty1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

@Darthv72

"they could make a mutual agreement. PS gets GP, XB gets PSNow."

Would it not be easier to to make a console where Sony does the hardware, Microsoft do the software then? (I don't mean Sony stop 1st party, more so all xbox games on PS).

That would result in no competition between the 2 platform holders, would then likely merge, and then the gaming industry would stagnate with no competition.

It will never happen, if it does i'll eat my monitor on a livestream

@Livingthedream

"Only hurts them if they put their xbox exclusives on the service"

How can making more software sales, and increasing subscription numbers, hurt them? If anything, they will make more money.

GamerRN1143d ago

You guys DO realize the real money from hardware comes from the licensing fees that other companies pay for each game sold. So the loss in hardware sales gets offset by fees paid for having a solid user base and charging fees.

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Rude-ro1145d ago

Never say never...
It is just that gamepass is stupid.
It is fully targeted to the bot so thoughtful American “hip” crowd that does not understand money and or value.

It would hurt Sony none...
But it would then shine a light on how poorly Microsoft is as a gaming company.
They have nothing exciting, they just sell the idea that it is.
We are now at the point where we close our eyes and cross our fingers Tehran it comes to a Microsoft release..
My point? How in the world is a gaming company that has not made a new AAA game in over ten years offering a gaming service?

And so far.. 99% of the “new” releases are your straight to dvd movie that are not testing well.

Why would. Sony want and or need this?

DJStotty1145d ago

Good story, full of fiction, but nonetheless a great and entertaining read.

AngelicIceDiamond1145d ago

Wanda vision is a good show it seems you're in a infinite loop, broken record stuck in 2011. Saying the same things over and over and over again.

Radio static* hello... Hello rude are you there? One day you'll get with the times.

Buy entertaining fan fiction as always though.

Rude-ro1144d ago

Full of typos...🤦
But very real nonetheless
If you do not think Microsoft is starting at the profit possibilities of said service vs the years of collected data from connected consoles... then I do not know what you think is “real”.
I built a pc. I have Xbox live. I looked at the offerings.... and would not find value in most games offered.
You are a paying a fee to access games...
But the dlc? Micro transaction? Live service games like destiny?
It all adds up.
Then we have seen the output from Microsoft.
Charging full AAA prices on indie style games to make them seem like a better value on gamepass is not a value to be had.

More times then none, I see diehard Xbox fans celebrate bad games as a sales pitch for gamepass. They are still bad games. So I do not get why a monthly fee is needed.
Just drop demos and be consumer friendly.

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AngelicIceDiamond1144d ago

"Charging full AAA prices on indie style games to make them seem like a better value on gamepass is not a value to be had."

You mentioned Destiny and all it's expansions. Well that game and it's expansion are all on Gamepass. Outriders isn't an indie game and it's hitting day and date. The latest Bethesda games aren't Indies Monster Hunter EA's games etc and amongst countless others aren't indie on the service.

Here's a tip education yourself on what's goin on before you say anything.

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AngelicIceDiamond1145d ago

Not only that but if Sony really wanted to compete in that space they could Revamp PSNOW. This podcast doesn't make any sense knowing Sony has their own service they could push and utilize.

crazyCoconuts1144d ago

Right. Not like they'd even have to do much of a revamp. Just put newer games out there and up the price. There's a reason they're not doing that...

crazyCoconuts1144d ago

Agreed. Sony would have to be in a position where it's completely backed into a corner and lost it's market lead before it would resort to allowing competitors to suck revenue opportunity away from them. It would be Sony reverting from being a platform to just a gaming hardware provider which is FAR from where they are now. So, kinda cold day in hell scenario...

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Elda1145d ago

Highly doubt that'll happen.

Futureshark1145d ago

Gamepass on PlayStation = no more Xbox.

Why would anyone buy one, if you can play all the same games on the rival hardware, plus all the PS exclusives?

LucasRuinedChildhood1145d ago

If it is possible, GamePass on PS5 would probably just include the Bethesda stuff from MS (no Halo, Gears, etc). That's MS's bargaining chip. Sony would get Fallout, Doom, Elders Scrolls, etc and MS would get at least 10m+ GamePass subscribers.

It's probably not going to happen though.

crazyCoconuts1144d ago

so many interesting problems to tackle w/ that approach, like is the service "sticky" enough to have customers continue to subscribe when you only have a small # of games that are truly exclusive to Xbox, or would they snipe and just subscribe when they want to play a certain game. If they're sniping, wouldn't it be better to just make the games available on PS and take your 30% cut of the game because 30% of $60 is $18 which is more than one month of GamePass... I'm sure the marketing departments have been through every scenario imaginable here multiple times. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in those meetings...

DJStotty1145d ago

And then if there is no xbox, why would Sony make a Playstation 6? Why would they need to?

Futureshark1144d ago

Perhaps to keep innovating the technology and pushing the boundaries of what can be done in videogaming, you know, like they have always done.

RazzerRedux1145d ago

None of this Game Pass on PS makes a lick of sense. Does anyone really think Microsoft is going to be willing to share their GP revenue with Sony? Nope. Are they going to hand out even more money to game devs for including the PS version of their games on this PlayStation Game Pass? That stream of revenue keeps getting shallower and shallower.

This will never happen. The most anyone can hope for as far as GP on other platforms is perhaps a xCloud streaming app on Switch. And probably not even that.

DJStotty1145d ago

And Sony will not open their doors for people to log in to xbox live, more chance of a Wii U revival.

RazzerRedux1144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

No more or less chance than Microsoft opening their doors for people to login to PSN for whatever reason. Either way, it is irrelevant since that is a secondary consideration for either side to see a benefit from this partnership at all. Besides, all you need is to link your Microsoft account to PSN and Sony has shown they are willing to allow that.

RauLeCreuset1144d ago

"Does anyone really think Microsoft is going to be willing to share their GP revenue with Sony?"

That is the hang up. I'm sure they'd be okay sharing some depending on how much is coming in. It's all conditional and contingent on a lot of variables. Bottom line: They'll probably be world's apart on what they want to share and the cut PS would want if they were willing to consider allowing it on PS. I think a lot of it hinges on Xbox making GP too big to pass on, possibly using Bethesda type acquisitions to force a deal more favorable to them. I doubt it happens, but I suspect that's the plan.

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Sony And Bend Studio Need To Bring Back Syphon Filter, Not Some Vain Live Service

The iconic stealth-action Syphon Filter series is nowhere to be seen, while Sony's busy planning more ridiculous live services.

Skuletor19h ago

Sometimes bringing back an old IP is like digging up a corpse and peeing on it, just look at Duke Nukem Forever, be careful what you wish for.

Jingsing10h ago

You are essentially asking Sony to make a better game than MGSV. That is risky given were stealth action games are right now.

Eonjay10h ago

If Sony can make a multiplayer component to go with a story mode like the great PSP games I think people would like this alot.

ApocalypseShadow9h ago

I've always wanted a reboot of Syphon Filter 1 at the quality level of Uncharted 2 or better. But the game has been abandoned like many previous Sony games that made other generations memorable.

The music, the voices, the story, the weapons and the amazing Taser were awesome for the time. The boss battles cool. But Bend and Sony don't care about bringing it back. About as bad as many other properties from Sega, Capcom, Namco, Konami, etc that we'd love but won't be getting.

Psychonaut852h ago

Yup. Seems like Sony is dialing back on the live service plans but not completely. I wish they’d just can them in general. Maybe just let Bungie do Marathon and pivot everyone else.

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The Name "Embracer Group" Is No More, But Don't Say You Didn't See It Coming

A reckless buying spree only to jeopardize it all, Embracer Group's heinous practices have done a lot of damage; it had the downfall coming.

mastershredder2d ago

THEY. It's a collective of investors that give no f-s unless the monkey dances for money and delivers. downfall? Urm.. dude... do you understand this is a rinse and repeat process? They won and bailed before plane crashed, the working industry did not. People saw investment money and sold themselves and the industry out like hot real estate, and now look at it. Honestly, you should be more upset with the studios that jumped on board for the carrots rather than those that were handing them out.

Knightofelemia2d ago

Seen it coming. When a fool spends money with out a plan and purchases every thing they see. Those they have purchased feel the ramifications. Now Embracer has to sell off studios to make up for their stupidity. I am just glad Gearbox went to Take Two and not to someone like say Tencent. What Embracer did was stupid and because of their stupidity bottom feeders like Tencent will be circling around picking at the scraps. Next time if there is a next time fully plan something out before whipping out the cheque book. Figure out how you can utilize the company, figure out how they can fit in, figure out how you can work with them and how their games can fit in nicely with the purchase. Being a dumbass with out a plan and a big cheque book does bite you and those around you in the ass.

TheColbertinator14h ago

Disgraceful publisher. I had some hope in them when they saved the THQ properties but now they are a stain on the industry.

Inverno14h ago

It's splitting up, the people who caused this shite show will still be around. Who knows how much more damage they will cause. Or where most will move onto in the future. Industry gotta be careful, you sign yourselves away thinking you'll have funding and security only to be bought up to be fed into a grinder.

anast13h ago

A lot of people lost their job while others made a ton of money.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno21h ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.