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Remedy Wants to Solve the Content Treadmill Issue of Co-Op Games

Remedy CEO Tero Virtala hinted that the Vanguard multiplayer project will have to find a way to solve the 'content treadmill' issue in co-op.

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NecrumOddBoy1166d ago

Well if you’re going to make me drag the snare and high hat up from the basement...
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Magatsuhi1166d ago

Well you can take several Qs from warframe. Think I have over 10,000 hours put into that game. Obviously some things should be different if you're going to charge for your game.

RabbitFly1166d ago

Warframe is a Great game. It is however extremely reliant on the threadmill that is being referenced here.

So that really makes no sense.

Sophisticated_Chap1166d ago (Edited 1166d ago )

It never used to be hard to make a good co-op game, but developers have completely forgotten how to not only make a co-op game, but how to make them fun. I still have more fun playing Rainbow Six Vegas 2 and left 4 dead 2, than I do almost any co-op game made in the last 10 years. Even Socom: combined Assault had a better co-op experience than most games of today.

The last half descent co-op experience I had, was when I was playing Ghost Recon; Wildlands, and before that, it was probably Borderlands 1 & 2. Gaming in general is in a really bad spot these days. Everything that comes out is built around farming and grinding for loot. I just don't get how people could be so brain dead to waste their time with games like that, and that includes Destiny, which is the biggest waste of time, yet, somehow, it still exists. I'm sure the lemmings will jump right over to D***Riders when that comes out too.

Hikoran1166d ago

Agreed with you right up until the insult at the end. I don't know how people enjoy that grind either but hey man, I can't understand persona games either but that doesn't mean I will insult them!

senorfartcushion1166d ago

I get you. It’s more about bow to trick kids into getting their parents to badger the storefront than in how to design an actual game

CrimsonWing691166d ago

I disagree with you.

The problem isn’t that developers don’t know how to make good co-op games. The problem is publishers trying to replicate the success of the mobile gaming market and transfer that to the console market.

I enjoyed Gears 5 with 4 person co-op, just me and my buddies having fun running through the game. I enjoyed doing co-op in Dark Souls 3 as well.

GaaS games are just fundamentally designed as cheaply as they can in order to sprinkle in content down the road and suck as much money out of the consumer within its lifespan.

I, personally, really enjoyed the Outriders demo while playing with my friends. The game isn’t perfect but it was a lot of fun co-op.

Atom6661166d ago

I don't think it's ever been easier to find great coop experiences.

Weeding out what you enjoy may be your actual problem here.

Got to say though, as someone who has logged 1000's of hours in the old R6 games, Seige is by far the better game imo.

But some other great Co op games that come to mind:

Diablo 3
DOS2
Darksiders Genesis
Deep Rock
Vermintide 2
Helldivers
Killing Floor 2
Dying Light
Gears
Far Cry
Monster Hunter

It just depends on what you're into. But there are a lot more options out there than 10 years ago. And all that competition means you can dive into a lot of these games at a low (or no) cost.

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Interview: ExoCross Is A New Take On Arcade Racing

Insider Gaming sits down with ExoCross creative director Paul Coleman to talk about the game's development, features, gameplay, and more.

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Nintendo confirms its commitment to physical games

In an era dominated by digital downloads and streaming services, the importance of physical media in gaming remains a topic of discussion.

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Chocoburger1d ago

Of course, Nintendo has always preferred physical sales, especially since they skew to a younger audience, and kids want games for their birthdays and holidays. They go to the store and pick the game they want.

Since the Wii they have always been the last major publisher to support modern tech or concepts, and they will be the last to support physical if it ever goes away. Which I hope it doesn't.

darthv7210h ago

Nintendo just likes sales in general. If they can sell digital more, they would because the 2nd hand market they do not get a cut of. For me, i tend to buy more physical switch games than I do other platforms. I do have my fair share of digital deals from the eshop though. Especially if its something that i have a sealed physical copy of and dont want to reduce its value.

Cacabunga9h ago

Then I know for sure who I will be supporting

neutralgamer199210h ago

OK, but you need better format where these games could actually fit instead of half of the game being in physical form and all I have being on a digital code or have to download

Hofstaderman10h ago

The one caveat with cartridges. If the leaks are true the internal storage stands at 256gb plus SD card support too.

franwex6h ago

You could have a 256gb card and a 10gb card. Publishers will simply use the 10gb one and make you download the rest.

Inverno9h ago

There are cards that can fit all of a game but those cost more, and publishers are cheap. It's weird cause with how much the switch has sold and how long it's been on the market the costs to manufacture these cards should've been much lower by now. It's a publisher issue cause there has only been very few exceptions on PS and Xbox, rest of the industry would rather force a download despite Blu-ray being cheap.

shinoff21838h ago

Your right. It's definitely a publisher issue. From my time collecting that's what I've come across. Just always remember

Doesitplay.org

Tell you everything you need to know about releases.

Flakegriffin6h ago

Pretty sure most, if not all, of Nintendo first party titles are all on cartridge. It’s the third parties.

Neonridr1h ago

that's on devs who opt for cheaper sized cartridges to save on manufacturing costs.

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ActualWhiteMan10h ago

Yeah it artificially retains the high prices for their software. Hence Pirates will always have their day with them.

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Hades 2 devs are "worried" about Hephaestus boons, expect a nerf soon

Supergiant Games' Studio Director, Amir Rao, has said that he's worried about some unbalanced boons in-game, with nerfs coming soon.

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