Do Games Look Better on the PS3?

The 360 has the headstart but could Sony have an advantage of better quality?

[Blu-Print]

I was getting tired of these quick multi-platform comparisons of different sports titles and people waving them around like they really take advantage of a console's strengths like exclusives do.

[eLiNeS]

I am sure the PofS3 can put out just as good if not better graphics then the 360 but what system would you rather have, one with no rumble in the controller? One where the online experience is crap? One that cost more? or the Xbox 360? That's what I thought, the Xbox 360 hands down!

[the_bebop]

These are the exact same people who did that comparison of mutlit-platfrom games by making fun of the graphics on Sonic on both the 360 and PS3. I will definetly be looking at there websit alot now that I know the website.

[TheMART]

"The 360 has the headstart but could Sony have an advantage of better quality?"

No it doesn't.

Just look at COD3 or FNR3, the 360 wins hands down.

See the graphics from the PS3 major title, Resistance, and the 360 major one, Gears of War, and Gears wins hands down.

Plus that website out of the ancient time, doesn't work on either Firefox, nor the new IE. Dull website, dull article probably.

@ Smitty below me.

That's nonsense:

COD3 watch this link, move over the pics to see the difference between the versions

http://www.gamespot.com/fea...

The 360 version is much, much sharper, has much, much more detail. Look at the last picture also, the house in the distance.

The sharpness of the PS3 version reminded me of COD on the XBOX 1.

Plus: Xbox Scores First Round Knock Out of PS3

http://www.xbox365.com/news...

"Xbox is flat-out better both visually and mechanically," said H3's chief communications officer and world class gamer, Adrian "Hollywood" Walton. "When 'Fight Night' is played at its highest level with the highest possible resolution, everyone was able to see Xbox 360's superiority to PS3 as clear as can be on H3TV."

Dipset and H3 superstar Juelz Santana was just as emphatic in his breakdown of the "Fight Night" face-off: "H3TV completely exposed that PS3's High Definition picture doesn't come close to Xbox, at least for "Fight Night." Everyone that had the opportunity to compete on both consoles scored Xbox higher right across the board."

So I'm sorry for you but probably you need to put your glasses on! Go watch Resistance, look at the grass, close up stuff... You'll find it lacks sharpness and detail. It's like last gen on steroids. Even COD2 on the 360 kicks it ass as a launch title. It seems it's all because of the PS3 GPU that gives washed out colours and less detail then the 360 gives

@ unixphreak1911

with that link of 20% usage of the PS3...

You know that's marketingbullsh!t, right? Every console gets better games after some time, compared to the launch games.

Epic has said with Gears of War they used 40% of the 360's power. Gears actually looks double as good as Resistance which uses 20% of the PS3 so in the end they do about the same right?

Come on that's no logic sense. Don't eat all that marketingtalk and go watch how the games look, right here, right now.

Links given above

[smitty]

FNR3 looks better on the PS3, and COD is essentially even.

[hfaze]

TheMART said:

Plus: Xbox Scores First Round Knock Out of PS3

http://www.xbox365.com/news...

"Xbox is flat-out better both visually and mechanically," said H3's chief communications officer and world class gamer, Adrian "Hollywood" Walton. "When 'Fight Night' is played at its highest level with the highest possible resolution, everyone was able to see Xbox 360's superiority to PS3 as clear as can be on H3TV."

Dipset and H3 superstar Juelz Santana was just as emphatic in his breakdown of the "Fight Night" face-off: "H3TV completely exposed that PS3's High Definition picture doesn't come close to Xbox, at least for "Fight Night." Everyone that had the opportunity to compete on both consoles scored Xbox higher right across the board."

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EA's Glenn Entis (Vice President and Chief Visual Officer) said:
http://ps3.qj.net/EA-using-...

"We've got games coming out now where we feel we've hit maybe 20 per cent of the potential of PlayStation 3," he says. "It's going to take us a little bit of time to unleash it."

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Hmmm... PS3 at around 20% utilization, and it's comparable to the 360??? 'Nuff said...

[sandip787]

i actually think that COD looks better on the PS3 from the pics uve given. and when u say look at the house, you can clearly see that the house looks better on ps3. i dont understand why you posted them links if ur pro 360

[TheMART]

Damn you really need glasses...

You know the first picture is from the 360 and when you move over it, it's the PS3, right???

It's less detailed, it's less sharp, it has washed out colours, in the distance it has less things on screen, sky, house, whatever.

I guess even glasses won't help. I officially declare you blind, or you are just a Sony fanboy that don't want to see the truth, looking through pink Barbie Ken glasses. For real. Anyone sees the 360 version is better. You want more proof of reviewers that are unbiased?

http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3...

Gamespot rated the PS3 version @ 8.2, the 360 version @ 8.8
Read it also please...

"However, an inconsistent frame rate and fewer multiplayer options make the PlayStation 3 version slightly inferior to the Xbox 360 version."

so it's not only the sharpness and details, it's also a choppy framerate on the PS3. Take it or leave it or go laser the eyes please

[The Snake]

I like the 360 version more but when it comes down to it I wouldn't mind playing the PS3 version. I'd definitely miss the rumble though.

[Bebedora]

It's the exact same jpg files shown for both consoles. Enough said.

XBOX360: http://image.com.com/gamesp...
PS3: http://image.com.com/gamesp...

[CaliGamer]

Its funny to me to see mart in a room that is for PS3 announcements, and its even funnier that he is the 3rd post. It looks to me like theMART is having buyers remorse about his 360 and is trying to find ways of justifying jumping on the XBOX bandwagon. By the way MART, the word is COLORS not COLOURS, it would serve you right to do a spell check before posting for the world to see.
On to the meat of your post, consider that most of the games you cited are PORTS, and bad ones at that, if you are not familiar with what that is its a game that was made for one system and released on another machine with little to no optimization for the sole purpose of making money, in other words MARK the PS3 did not get a fair shake because the games were not optimized for the system.
Gears of War looks better than than Resistance? Perhaps but how much better? Resistance is a first generation Sony game, Gears of War is a 360 2nd generation. That is similar to having a sales man that has been with the company for 10 years closing 10 accounts this year and having a kid straight out of college and having him close 8 counts that year, it goes without saying that the guy who has been there for 10 year would be very worried because of the potential the college kid has shown for how well he can do in the future.
And just for your consideration MARK, think about how many PS2s were sold this holiday season. The user base Sony has has only grown so eventually most of those people who purchased a PS2 will want a PS3. The long run for the 360 is looking very interesting, I don't think Microsoft will go out of business but I believe your lack of analytical analysis and also your blind following of Microsoft is really hurting you in this post. Time will tell more than anything and you are selling Sony short even before the race has started, but I can't blame you because if I were you or MS I would be worried to.
In closing MARK, you need to become MS's PR person because that is some grade A ass kissing you are engaging in my friend, make sure they send you your W-2, because taxes are coming due. What you need to do MARK is STFU, play your GOW and watch your porn on you separate HD-DVD player and leave the analysis and comment on the state of the video game industry to people with more than a grade school education.
Happy gaming!

[ammojoe]

.....we only spell color that way with American english.. He might be from Canada or the UK or something thus he spells it colour and we say colour. Amercan English and British English have a lot of little differences like that. I bet he drinks a lot of tea or something too. j/k

[sandip787]

i disagree with you, and im branded as blind? wheres the logic in that? and btw your insults are so immature and stupid, you lose all credibility to what you're saying. the colours on the ps3 look brighter as a whole, the 360s are a bit dark for my likeing. but thats my preference, my opinion, not yours. so why cant you accept that? oh bcoz i dont agree with you im a sony fan? do you actually know me? so dont jump to conclusions for gods sake. true some of the pics looks better on the 360 on the games they show - fight night etc. but i personally think that some of the ps3 pics looks a tad better than 360's. anyways, my rant has ended

[CG]

C'mon people how many more times does the 360 have to prove that its the better gaming console in terms of graphics.
You only need to look at the GPU for both consoles and you'll see which console has the better graphical power it doesnt take a genius to work it out.

In one corner you have a nextgen GPU with unified architecture and embedded ram and in the the other we have an out dated 7800GTX you do the math...

P.S why do we still not know the specs of the RSX c'mon sony what are you afraid of!!!!

[DC RID3R]

is basically a freelance journalist. He's just a script reader, he has NO education in videogaming whatsoever. He appears in ads ranging from washing up powder to alchoholic beverages.

I wouldn't take him seriously.

for there even to be a debate, "which is better?" is bad news for the PS3. with all the so-called power it has, theoreticly, the PS3 SHOULD have blown the 360 out the water AGES ago?

[hardwood2001]

Than why the hell did you give this story your approval rating???
Sorry to say this but "FANBOY" confirmed for "DC RID3R"

[nanometric]

Confirmed!

[DC RID3R]

"Than why the hell did you give this story your approval rating???
Than why the hell did you give this story your approval rating???
Sorry to say this but "FANBOY" confirmed for "DC RID3R" "

first of all shorty, if you want a D*ck to jump on, catch a cab to your local g*y-bar, my python is for WOMEN only.

I gave this story approval because this is a "heart warming" news article for PS3/sony fans. Just because I prefer teh 360 (best online games, gamers, gaming network), that doesn't mean I'm not interested in other game related news!

Third, your writing style is VERY similar to achira a.k.a G-string hooker.

I PITY TEH FOOL! psst psst (spit)

[hardwood2001]

No I'm not "achira" and I do not like "achira" myself.

[ps1h1ch]

^^ If they can't get their website to work properly on Firefox I sure can trust them to know something about hardware specific.

[Bill Nye]

Who the hell doesn't support Firefox these days? Not worth looking at now...

[MaximusPrime]

i dont care about the graphic. i care about the games. Sony has the best games since PS1.
I care about Bluray movies too.

[End1ess]

You're absolutely right Sony really knew what they were doing when they first came to the market. And for those who love blu-ray this is a dream come true, but gamers want evolution and Sony isn't proving that they can do that just yet. They probably just need time like MS did with Gears, R6 vegas etc, but as of right now games wise Sony isn't bringing much to the table when they could be romping the market.

[gnothe1]

NO they dont, but just wait until all the fans boys that think the PS3 graphics looks better show up.BUT..... I know what there gonna say JUST GIVE THE PS3 A YEAR THEN WE'LL SEE!!

[HandShandy]

To be honest, I'm one of the very lucky European people who has both a PS3 and an Xbox 360. I play both on a 40" Sony Bravia KDLW2000 LCD TV. PS3 is through HDMI and the Xbox is still through the inferior Component cable.

To be honest... I was suprised, the Xbox version (Even through it's component cable) had slightly more detail to the images than it's PS3 counterpart on COD3.

But upon examination I noticed that the lighting on the xbox360 was GLARING and often produced paradoxial results (For instance light shining through walls, overused lighting in dark areas) It was basically....just horrible.

Annoyed at this I did some research and found out that the PS3 infact has 128bit HDR, which is far higher than the Xbox 360 thus causing the xbox 360 to Bloom it's lighting.

I certainly do not think the Xbox 360 is capable of producing better graphics with it's yesterdays technology, but I do think that developers should exploit the Cell and RSX to get more out of it.

This brings me to the conclusion that when I play games on the PS3 I'm seeing them as the developers wanted me to see them, when you play games on the 360 you see them in a distored sense.

[MaximusPrime]

great comment there. i supported sony all the way.

[hardwood2001]

Wow "HandShandy" I think you got your system's mixed up there, but hey it just might be my opinion along with GameSpot.com opinion too.
Link- http://www.gamespot.com/fea...

[DC RID3R]

but specs are ONLY specs :(

Fact is that yes, the ps3 is very powerfull, and isn't showing it's full capabilities atm (2008/9) :(

Fact is that in order to produce that power for optimized ps3 games costs enormous GUAP!!! Way too much money for most dev's :(

Fact is that with the ps3 installation base where it is at the moment(1,360,351- nexgenwars.com), it doesn't make sense to release these titles until the amount of ps3 sku's in homes has risen dramatically (I estimate around the 9-10 million mark)and becomes financially viable :(

Fact is most ps owners play iso backups/pirated games(if your heart just jumped, I mean YOU)), hence the dreadfull software sales that befall the ps2+psp (110 million ps2's sold, how many software titles have eclipsed the 10 million mark?) :(

Fact is MOST ps3 owners will wait for modchips and hacks to appear on the PS3 for the EXACT same purpose, again halting software sales, and therefore "making truly OPTIMIZED games for the ps3" seem EVEN less financially viable :(

Fact is teh Xbox 360 has the best online games, the best online gamers, the best online network, and 10,426,648 owners :]

FACT

[TheMART]

"I certainly do not think the Xbox 360 is capable of producing better graphics with it's yesterdays technology, but I do think that developers should exploit the Cell and RSX to get more out of it."

Oh please. How much bull can you bring?

Yesterdays technology. A triple core 3.2 Ghz CPU isn't certainly yesterdays technology. The GPU of the 360 is more advanced then the PS3 one. That GPU is yesterdays PC technology, because Sony thought the Cell could do the GPU tasks also. Late in their development process they found out they needed a GPU, ran to Nvidia with a bag of money and asked what they could get for it. Nvidia then took a standard GPU of the shelves and said here you are. The Cell and GPU are not optimal together as the 360 CPU and GPU are special build.

John Carmack says that, other say it. The Cell might be a new form of CPU build, but also stated it's not optimal for gaming, it is for videodecoding, that's why in combination with the BluRay player makes it a videoplayer first and have some games on top.

But not the best, and certainly not the best gaming experience with the lack of a PREMIUM online service. Just simple as that. Plus, you talk about lightning...

Well why is it then that night levels on the 360 in COD3 look like they should and the PS3 is washed out no night, but a sun coming up somewhere where it doesn't belong? Why is it that all the lighting in other games, including FNR3 isn't good? Why is it that shadows and lightning in for example football games are so wrong on PS3?

[FordGTGuy]

You do know the Xbox 360 uses a proto ATI RS600 GPU chip that you can't even buy yet. Most cross platform games should look better because they have had more time to work on the games. How does HDR lighting look worst then non-HDR lighting? If their are problems with the lighting its not the technology its a mistake by the devs. Whats next?, I FOUND A GLITCH IN TDU itz becuz of Xbot 360 has inferer technolgy.

I've been following these two consoles long enough to know the difference between them and one lousy video isn't going to change that.

[gogators]

same with cross platform games. What developer is really going to spend the money or time to makes games look better for one systme or another. Graphics on exclusive titles, though difficult to compare, is the only way comparisions can be made between the two systems graphical capacities.

[techie]

Just compare GOD OF WAR on ps2 to it's original titles - now that's almost a generation leap and it runs perfectly well on my 5year old ps2. All games will improve in graphics, and that means the xbox360 as well. As far as I know we're not even threading games yet, so the xbox has those other two cores to play with.

But then the ps3 has a lot to play with, and the improvements will come. As the thing says, when you're working to the strengths of a certain machine then the graphics will be much better - of course ports dont look as good, because they were working to the strengths of the 360.

Of course it's about time...when have 1st generation games ever looked good?

[techie]

About God of War

"the first game had some of the best graphics ever achieved on a PlayStation 2, so no one will be disappointed. Some of my fellow editors even commented that the game's in-game graphics looked almost like CG."

I rest my case - if ps2 games can look this good, then the future looks good.

[gnothe1]

even you don't believe what you just said!!xbox has yesterdays technology!! if that's the case then the Ps3 has last months graphics technology!!these are the kinda posts that bother me just like when DJ post!! no matter how good the xbox looks an how bad the Ps3 looks they still say the Ps3 games look better. since you have a PS3, I'm sure you have RFOM, just look at the ground.check out where it turns from road to grass.its all flat the road is grey an then turns green to be grass, there's no different textures to separate the 2.RFOM was supposed to be sonys flag ship game, its first party, its been in development for a while an that's the best they can produce!!

I don't see what all the fuss is about anyway. the xbox 1 had better graphics than the Ps2 an fans boys didn't act like this.but I guess since sony said that the Ps3 will blow away they xbox 360, its not happening but they still believe it anyway!!

[MaximusPrime]

"the xbox 1 had better graphics than the Ps2"
Thats true but sony has far more games than xbox.
PS1 and PS2 games are compatible with PS3 so still sony are going strong. Who cares about the graphic? I care about the game.

[HandShandy]

To PanixATK:

I care about the game too, but when the games look bad and distorted I would rather play them on another format that looks better.

To Everyone else:

Thanks for your feedback. It's funny someone should mention the M$ Biased site: Gamespot because thats where I think this whole lighting issue started. I cannot comment on their comparisons because I question their authenticity... I havn't got my systems mixed up "Hardwood" I have a firm belief in my own eyes and they do not decieve me when I look at the PS3 and Xbox 360 side by sides in a graphics comparison - the result being the PS3 games have better lighting.

Notice how I said the Xbox360 had better detail. That is still the case and I'm not really sure why they do? Perhaps these games were made on the Xbox360 first then PORTED to PS3 or emulated or what ever. I'm not sure.

As for RFOM. I don't see why I should doll out £50 on a game that looks only slightly better than PS2's Killzone that is full of idiots in an online community. No thanks. I skipped that game - I will get it once my clan gets their own PS3s so we can play it together.

In conclusion and to reply to "gnothe1" comment, I'm not really too sure about the way these games on the PS3 will turn out in terms of graphical quality on their first party titles. I hope that they look as fantastic as what we have all been promised, but it's going to take developers time as it did with alot of PS2 titles.

I'm quite happy with Both my Xbox 360 and my PS3. The Xbox may reek of unstability over the next couple of years but at least I can play Deadrising over and over again. (That is my fav game on Xbox360, worth buying the console for)

I'm going to say the typical fanboy statement here "Just give it time" because that's what it needs. Time. We should see a dramatic improvement in already great graphics on the PS3 and Xbox360 over the next couple of years. Who wins the game console war will be up to idiots and their wallets, not the hardcore enthusiasts like us.

Thanks.

[calderra]

We don't have to wait for anything.
Gears of War looks better than any PS3 game, current or planned, that's actually been seen on REAL hardware and not just in the realm of Sony's "pretend" hardware that it keeps touting. (see: e3 '05 when Killzone was "real gameplay" running in "realtime")

Metal Gear Solid < GOW.
Devil May Cry < GOW.
...etc.

And the whole while, GOW is upscaled to 1080p, while lots of people are having their Resistance downgraded to 420p by PS3.

[peksi]

Too early to say anything. I'd wait till the end of 2007 when both systems are on more equal ground.

[Funky Town_TX]

You Sony guys keep saying wait. First it was wait until E3 06, Then it was wait until TGS 06. Next it was wait until launch. Lets stop waiting. The console was delayed, dev had extra time with it no excuses. The 360 is gaming machine first. The PS3 is a DVD player first. I game more than I watch movies.

[techie]

Dude just be quiet. It is all about the wait. It took a while to grasp the ps2 and we ended up with games like GOW and Shadow of the Collossus. Your amazing game took a year and the xbox360's architecture is a lot easier to program for.

So yes wait - we don't know how long it'll take do we - but its inevitable. Will they be better than xbox360's improvements over the years? Who knows. But there will certainly be improvement.

It's all about the dev's and their systems, which improved 10fold over the years of the ps2 and will do the same for the ps3.

[HandShandy]

I agree with you there, I wish they would hurry up with something spectacular aswell.

In the mean time, we shall just have to wait... hehehe

[donscrillinger]

now that you sonyFans have seen the video ,i hope that you all learned a lesson . being,just cuz the price was so high didn't mean that you cats got what you weer paying for. like i said before to all my friend that now see or coming to see what i always told them in the beginning that there paying for an $650 weaker 360 lol this is great !!!!!

[Sashy]

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I dont understand why people compairs Resistance with Gears of war?

Resistance: fall of man = 1:st generation Ps3 game
Gears of war = 2:nd generation Xbox360 game

Thats not fair. It would be more fair to compare Resistance: fall of man with Perfect dark zero.

Dont you think so ?

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[Grown Folks Talk]

they worked on both for basically the same amount of time. both teams started in 05. gears came out in october of 06, rfom in november 06. you do recall that the ps3 was due in spring 06 right? that means they were working on these games well before that.

[CG]

Perfect dark still beats RFOM in graphics, i cant say about gameplay because i havent played RFOM yet.

Oh yeah i thought the PS3 was twice as powerful as the x360 according to sony and there lemmings, so shouldnt the first gen games blow all 360 games out the water and shouldnt the ported games look alot better and run smoother and all in 1080p on the all powerful PS3. Thats what sony led us to believe, but now the ps3 is launched all we're hearing is WAIT, WAIT, WAIT!!!

I mean the xbox 1 showed it was way more powerful than the ps2 right from launch we didnt have to WAIT so shouldnt it be the same case with the PS3 huh.

Face it you sony fanboys have been raped once again..

[Booneral]

Sony was the first to jump out and say "we have given them the developer kits, look what they have done!" on E3'05. Developers have been working on both systems since 05 and they had no worries about rushing the games out of doors for PS3 since it was delayed for such a long time.

They had more time for development in that case, and we will still wait? For what? Next holiday Santa will be delivering better graphics? Will untap the console's true potential? We are not kids anymore.

[THAMMER1]

Got a bad rap. It is actually a pretty game. I PLAY ALL THE TIME. if you want to play with me my gamer tag is THAMMER1.

I used to rag on PDZ real hard. I mean down right trash talk I even sold it. But My wife bought it back for me as a gift and now I can really say it is great. The graphics/damage detection/atmosphere/weapons/j etpacks/hovercrafts and weapons are pretty good. It is a real blast. the best part is it is only like $18.00.

[Rasputin2011]

I think it is totally fair because of the Raw Power of the PS3...Like if you are going to advertise you Console as being the Best then why not compare(Graphically)the games against the best.

[cuco33]

wait... how does a european own a ps3 if it hasn't been launched in europe yet?
both systems will graphically look great, but it comes down to the games. if the games are horrible, the system will be viewed as horrible. let's hope this time around we don't have a plethora of games where majority are crap (ref ps2 library).

[Grown Folks Talk]

some 360 games will look better, some ps3 games will look better. it depends on the style the devs choose, and what type of effect they are going for. the xbox was stronger graphically than the ps2, but there are still some ps2 games that look better than some xbox games. even every game on the same system doesn't look as good as each other, so why would it be any different on multiple systems?

[Indigo]

Sony is telling everyone the PS3 is the most advanced system, that's why the price tag is what it is. What i don't understand is If we as gamers have to break our necks to tell the diff between 360 and Ps3 what's so mighty about this $700 system. I live in Canada and let me tell u people are not flocking to this system, we have sense enough to know what money is worth, and clearly we can see the diff in grafics is not worth the xtra 2 bills

[Rasputin2011]

Indigo u are right on the MONEY!(no pun intended) I have been a Playstation Fanboy since the day it dropped on North American Soil but I have enough common sense to buy a X360 because of price alone. Like I have been taking alot of "BEEF" because of a "Turncoat" or "Wagon Jumper" but I say who cares because right There are like NO games out for the PS3 and plus right now you can get a X360 for 499.99 and a PS3 for 650.99 enough said.

[Funky Town_TX]

Gears of War has looked the same since E3 05. R:FOM has looked the same since it was called I8. F-waiting. If I pay $600 it should be that good now. God of War is not even on par with Halo1 on xbox1. When the first xbox1 came out Halo1 killed every thing on the PS2 away. Dam emotion engine hype. Keep falling for the Sony hype. Even with the PS3 being delayed the games are still junk. Just wait and see when VF5 drops on the 360 and look better than the PS3 version. I wonder what excuss you will make then. It will be they had more time. BTW, I don't work for M$ and you don't work for Sony so stop the the "WE" stuff. I'm a gamer. I'm just calling it as i see it. Right now the PS3 is not worth the money as a gaming machine.

[techie]

You gamers certainly do act like you're part of Microsoft's/Sony's possy. Hence the 'your games'.

I have no preferences as of yet. Did Halo 1 blow GOD of War out of the water? I mean Halo was out before God of War - and I've played it and compared it to GOW (note God of war not Gears of war - amusing how the best games have to have war in the title) and I must say it is an amazing cg experience, really working to the ps2's strengths - a system that only has 32mb of memory. God of War is on a par with next-gen games in terms of vision and artistry.

[Optimus Prime]

why arent you brilliant. halo 1 vs God Of War. A FPS vs an Action Adventure. Real smart dumb one.

[Geohound]

This is silly. There is not a PS3 game in stores that looks better than Gears Of War. Does that mean that the Xbox 360 is the uber l33t haxor and pwns the RSX to 0bl11vionsssssssssssssssssssss sssss? Uh, no. Does this me an that the Cell and RSX will make MGS4 or a Final Fantasy VII remake cell 15-20 million systems as well as make Bill Gates eat his own poop and die? No.

Stop it. PS3 or X360, there's just different strokes for different folks.

[Grown Folks Talk]

different strokes to rule the world.

[Funky Town_TX]

Below are links of video for R:FOM and Gears of war. Now notice that the GEARS vids are from 05. The R:FOM are final build. GEARS was Delayed because ther user base of the 360 was low. THE GAME HAS LOOKED THE SAME SINCE E3 05. Stop the darn 2nd gen 1 st gen game crap. Is this is the case then the PS3 will always be behind. The Ps2 was out before the xbox1 and we all say the graphical difference. It's about the dev money and talents just as much as it is about the hardware.

R:fom final build
http://media.ps3.ign.com/me...

GOW from 05
http://media.xbox360.ign.co...

[Anteup]

At the current moment yes Xbox 360 games look better than ps3 i will say that , but the 360 has been for over a yr now the developers have had more than enough time to make the games look better and to understand the system. It not even been 6 months for the ps3 which is pushing way better specs, they need time to get use to it and understand it. You people forget that when the xbox just came out it wasnt blowing the ps2 away until a few yrs most the games that came out look the same, so all i am saying is lets ask this same question in a yr or 2.

[FordGTGuy]

Dude most PS3 devs received their PS3 dev kits(not final kits) the same time the Xbox 360 dev kits went out. Every Multi-Platform game has had atleast 1-3 maybe even 6 months more in development then the Xbox 360 version. This would include:

Oblivion, COD3, Madden and FNR3.

[TheMART]

That really doesn't matter.

Both 360 and PS3 games will evolve.

So if 2nd gen 360 games are up to 1st gen PS3 games, but the 360 games look better... It's right here right now. In some time, the 3rd gen 360 games will be up to the 2nd gen PS3 games.

That way the 360 will always be ahead, always looking better in that view. The 360 is just a year ahead. A year ahead in sales, a year ahead in everything. Yeah, that's very, very hard to catch up with, especially if behind it, it's the biggest softwaregiant in the world, with an incredible online premium system which Sony hasn't been able to reproduce and won't be able to catch up with in at least a few years.

It just seems the 360 takes the nr. 1 spot in gaming, the PS3 goes for the best and cheapest version of a BluRay player

[candystop]

But when xbox came out the games surpassed ps2 visuals at launch! I loved the PS2 but gotta admitt that it has never had visuals up to par with the original xbox!

[HandShandy]

The reason this "European" owns a PS3 is because he imported one. Why did this "European" go through all this effort to get a US PS3 so quickly? Because he wanted to see what it was like for himself and how it compared to the older xbox360 system.

There's alot of people in here with very strong negative views about Sony Computer Entertainment... the people probably before the Original Xbox owned Playstations. Anyway that's beside the point here, you obviously have something against the PS3 because you are ANGRY at other people's oppinions of it being better than the '360. Your trying to stop them spending $600 on a console? Argh. I appreciate your desperation to try and guide me onto M$ path of gaming domination but no thanks.

As for the "Wait and see" issue. It's annoying Sony can't have any really decent titles out there at the start. I remember excitidly getting an Xbox360 at launch aswell.....and being very dissapointed by the awful launch line up. I was then faced with numerous claims for M$ fanboys saying "You just wait till GOW or Halo3".... I'm sorry can us Playstation people not stay the same for our console that HAS ONLY JUST BEEN RELEASED.

Obviously not because Gears of War is the greatest game ever made, even though it's a direct copy of a concept done on a PS2 game called "Killswitch" I have Gears of War. It's a stunning game. I think it shold set the bench mark of how all next-gen games should look. It's far from perfect though, it's a boring game and it's 3rd person. (My oppinion)

To be honest, I think Motorstorm looks alot better than GOW. It's difficult for a M$ supporting Xbox owner to look past a game that isn't a shooter but I think that game deserves credit. GT4HD is something spectacular aswell.

So stop giving the PS3 a massive bashing about it's graphics here because there are some fantastic things on it. Half of the people here probably don't even own the right kind of TVs to support 1080p resolutions anyway.

I'm sorry, but me being a "Sony person" are certainly not caving in. I have BOTH consoles and I openly prefer my PS3 in every single concept.

1. It's online
2. It's hardware
3. It's controller
4. It's interface

The games will come, just like GOW came to 360 nearly a year later.

I'm not living in denial either. I may have Sony products littered around my house but that doesn't stop me prefering my M$ Zune to my Sony walkman thank you.

To me, and for my expectations - The Xbox360 sadly does not compare to the PS3 at all.... in any aspect. It's inferior, it's old...it's yesterday.

[THAMMER1]

*SIGH~ GO PS3DO

[Booneral]

LOL!! @ "To be honest, I think Motorstorm looks alot better than GOW"

If only I was a blind man who havent seen them both in HD, I'd actually believe that after having someone read me that long post. Nice one, now my stomach hurts.

[Jrocks_4_ever]

explained it better. I am very similiar to your views only thing that i dont agree with, is that you actually own a Freakin x360. I wont buy that piece of crap if it was the only console on the market. But besides that you are definatley correct in my opinion.

Your probably more of a gamer than I am. I guess thats why you purchased a x360?

[darx]

If the 360 was the only gaming machine on earth you would own one. Don't blow smoke buddy!

[sak500]

console when you controller shakes in your hand when your vehicle's bouncing up and down over the rough terrain in motostorm? Oh i forgot ur next gen console doesn't support rumble support. Let alone gfx, the console ure so praising about has no FF.

Anyway, i will buy ps3/bluray once it comes down in price and enough BD movies are available to warrant a purchase. In the meanwhile my gaming needs are being met by my xb360.

[gnothe1]

you might have had a chance, but when you said that the xbox doesnt compare to the Ps3 in any aspect you lost all credibility, especially when you said online which is a joke!! XBL is hands down better that the PlayStation network, so that takes care of online!! all games pretty much look better, sharper, an more colourful an run at faster frame rates(COD3 THP8)that pretty much takes care of the hardware.the controller is a matter of preference, I like rumble an the controller just feels good but to each his own!!then interface , the Ps3 is just a big brother of the PSP, nothing exciting there,then again its a matter of personal preference!!

[PureGamer]

your all a bunch of sadacts who actually argue over this. CLAP CLAP

[HaHa]

Man it's ever so hot in here hehehe. Every article about the PS3 becomes hot in minutes, while in the 360 section, NO COMMENTS hahaha

[Booneral]

Well, that's what people have been doing. When Xbox came out with Halo we saw graphical differences between PlayStation 2 and Xbox. As a PlayStation 2 owner back in those days, I admitted that Xbox was better "in terms of graphics", and it was "day one" not "year two". When I expect to see a true difference between two systems, I need an example like Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory comparison between Xbox and PS2.

Now Sony has been stating that "true next-gen" will start with PlayStation 3, and I expected the same scenario in the past, just sides switching. I expected PlayStation 3 to deliver something different, so that I'd accept the fact that PS3 is a better system than 360, just like I did back when Xbox came out.

What happened though? Now that two system's games are comparable through tiny-miny differences, the exclusive games not representing any major difference either (I still think GOW is the best, but since UT3 will be on PlayStation 3 too, I'll keep thinking that U3E is representing what's best for both systems for now).

All I know is that developers had more time for PlayStation 3 before rushing their games for sale, when compared to Xbox 360, and I dont think we should wait for such a long time, or pay a higher price when there is not a big gap, hence the title of my comment.

[JIN KAZAMA]

God Of War 2 has better graphics and better gameplay than 98% of your games on the 360. This is from a Sony 1st party dev, for a 6 year old console. ALl you guys can tlak about is Gears Of War, when infact, PS2 is beating the hell outta the 360 with God Of War 2. Imagine God Of War 3 on the PS3. Its voer zombies, just get over with it, and go play your Gears Of War. The ONLY GAME thats any good, which came out a full year after the launch.
Thank You.
PLAY B3YOND

[Booneral]

Thanks for representing a great, live example to "How a fanboy should act?" question.

[techie]

Indeed - there's no doubt that God of War 2 will be incredible. They really are set to make one of the best games this year even though it's on the ps2. BUT acting like a fanboy to use GOW2 to diss GOW is slightly wrong. Gears of War is an incredible looking game - truly spectacular, a feat achieved on a system that can handle it - to show how to make the strengths of a system shine.

Hopefuly Sony will learn to get such a handle on their system - and people like Naughty Dog can understand how to work to it's strengths, just like the GOD of War team learnt to work to the strengths of the ps2 (I mean I was so surprised at the water effects and reflections in God of War - something I'd never seen in a ps2 game before, like Prince of Persia, who couldn't pull anything like that off)

[MissAubrey]

GoW:
http://media.ps2.ign.com/me...

PDZ:
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[tiamat2san]

it's only a matter of 1rst party games et time exclusives...

[power of Green]

Nope!. One console was launched a year eairly and one delayed a year, we all can say is RFOM and GoW were both in development for about the same amount of time on new hardware don't let the fans twist the realalities of this matter. How many reviewers need to grade multi platform games on PS3 and 360 for people to get it. Xbox was on top of the PS2 and was so from the start. Flatout vs MotoStorm the hole way baby RFOM vs GoW the hole generation. All the Techies and truthful dev's know the PS3 will be left behind graphiclly, MS is sure of it because they know more about it than any of us do.

[USMChardcharger]

i agree. you can't say that comparing the 360 and ps3 games now is not fair because sony needs time to catch up.

Sony said their games would be amazing in terms of graphics and everything else from day one.

M$ didn't say it, fanboys of M$ didn't say it, Sony said it. they drew the line in the sand first. SONY invited the comparisons now.

[Ota]

Most of those nextgen cross platform titles were coded conform to directx with the box and pc in mind however. Ports cannot give justice to whatever system being completely different. Sony was therefore not in the position to state this, and thus they were wrong to do so.

[USMChardcharger]

Right, they were not in position to say that. They are very aggressive in their comments.

just to be clear to everyone...I wasn't stating that they are wrong or right or that 360 graphics are better than the P3.

i was just defending the people making the comparison now...instead of waiting for Sony's 2nd gen of games.

people were saying that it wasn't fair to do so...but Sony decided that comparison start now...Sony

[kamakazi]

i own the PSWii60(yes all 3) and its funny how the MS fanboys truely hate SONY. still hurtin from last gen guys? if you guys hate SONY so much why even bother with any of the news thats posted on this site...granted this "news" here concers both the PS3 and 360, but on every other bit of info that makes its way onto this site (even if its good news for SONY) you guys tear it apart. whats with you people. yeah people are entitled to their opinions but make them count and dont let crap spill from out your mouths....or in this case your keyboards. now im off to play some GEARS.

p.s seriously though this "console war" aka fanboy war is hilarious

[Funky Town_TX]

The way that Sony hypes up their consoles is bad. It happened with the PS2 and it is happening with the PS3. They always show tech demos instead of ingame. I don't play tech demos, I play ingame. If the PS3 hits those tech demos then I will get one. I have options I'm not a blind fanboy. I just hate the way Sony hypes eveything. I was in walmart before the PS3 launched and there were some kids that were watching the trailers for Marvel UA game and he told his partents that the game was going to look like that. They were all amazed by that, because it did not look like things that the 360 was offering at the time. I have had a PS console before and I will get another. If the 360 gets better like it should then I have no reason to get a PS3. There are a ton of new IP's coming out for both systems but the 360 has ones that I want. The PS3 just seems like it's not finished yet. Sony made a mistake with the PSP by not making it a gaming handheld first. To me it just seems like the PS3 is not made for gaming first, but it's made to watch movies first.

When VF5 comes out on the 360 and looks better what will people say about that. There are countless #'s of games that look better on the 360.

360=game console first. other things second.
PS3=blu-ray movie player first. gaming console second.

It's Sony's job to make me change my mind not some stupid fanboys. When that PS3 does not reach 6 million consoles by fall 07 don't be mad at M$ take it out on Sony.

[power of Green]

Because i liked the DreamCast it was a better console than the PS2 but fictional facts about the PS2 helped kill a better console Sony fans cause things to get out of hand, now ones letting that happen again. J/K

Quote: granted this "news" here concers both the PS3 and 360, you see the point then. Have a nice day.

[DJ]

Based on what actual developers are saying, a lot of the PS3 information being spread by anti-Sony individuals across the web is hilariously wrong. A programmer from Ninja Theory freaked out when they found out what some people were saying, such as the "PS3 only has 6 SPEs available, with one SPE blocked off for redundancy(which is true) and one blocked off strictly for the Operation System (completely false).

Their response was "You're f-ing kidding me..." The truth is that the OS has 5% of one SPE's execution time dedicated towards it. Devs actually have all 7 SPEs for them to use, not 6, not 5. Quote that fake document pasted by QJ all you want; doesn't change the facts.

I could go on and on, but I'll just let you guys know that first-party devs are figuring out some crazy things for Cell+RSX. They've got everything from Cell-based rendering to SPE programs that dictate tasks dynamically, without programmer assistance. While Guerrila Games isn't talking, a few devs on the Beyond3D forums figure that those insane amount of polygons we saw in the Killzone 'CG Trailer' might actually be possible. If you want me to elaborate, just let me know.

[Funky Town_TX]

Sony's right hand man. What if Killzone PS3 is a bust. What will you say about it ? Will you blame it on dev time ? BTW, if Killzone(e3 05 version) is great I will get a PS3 very fast. I want the PS3 to be better, but it is not right now.

[Booneral]

"I could go on and on, but I'll just let you guys know that first-party devs are figuring out some crazy things for Cell+RSX."

You'll let us know? Who are you exactly? Working in some division of Sony Computer Entertainment? BeLIEve in Sony? Well I dont know who to believe, I just hate this type of hype as always, just like I hate the hype of Halo 3 (yeah people defending 360, saying "but 360 has Halo 3!!!", that's also awfully stupid since Halo 3 might be no different to some people than ol'stinky Bob's boxers, make no mistake though, I like halo and I am looking forward to that game, it's just the freaking Hype I hate!)

It is not really nice to say "You will see what PlayStation 3 will do soon enough!" the system had more development time for games since it was delayed over and over. Wait wait wait... that's all we hear, and all this wait issue is being delayed over and over just like PlayStation 3 debut. What will happen if they release a real-time video of Killzone 2 around this time, and say if it doesn't look much different than Resistence? Wait for MGS4? Final Fantasy XIII? What if we face the same scenario? Wait for God of War 3?

We will keep waiting I guess, but till then nobody should speak of such hype unless they are developing games for both systems.

[Playb3yond69]

yoo i think wut u said was pretty cool about the ps3, can u tell me more about the kilzzone 2?

[DJ]

So one big thing that made the Killzone PS3 trailer so implausible were the insane polygon counts, exponentially higher than anything we've ever seen in a videogame. But this raises the question of why some games have higher polygon counts than others, and it has to do with the fact that when you apply lets say animation to a character model, the system has to keep track of every single polygon and redraw them for each frame. It' a lot easier to keep track of 100,000 polygons than it is to keep track of 100 million.

The more animated polygons in your scene, the more time your system spends calculating that movement.

A workaround method that a few hardcore devs from the PS3 camp are suggesting is the usage of displacement maps and subdivision surfaces. You start with a low-poly mesh for an object/character, say ten thousand polys. The system only needs to keep track of those ten thousand polys for physics collision and animation, keeping resource usage to a minimum. After those necessary calculations are finished, you could use an SPE or two to subdivide (smoothen out) all the polygons and add displacement mapping, adding a ridiculous amount of physical detail.

Current games use Normal Mapping to give false height/depth to low-polygon objects, like in Gears of War. Displacement Mapping however puts in real geometry and looks remarkebly more realistic. Combine the two methods and the Killzone CG trailer doesn't seem very farfetched. Normal Mapping works best for subtle detail anyway.

Lightwave 3D, a program used for the creation of that trailer (Maya for animation) also has a built in Level-of-Detail system for subdivision surfaces. I'll try to talk about that more later on, and it means that instead of keeping 5 or 6 different versions of each model in the system that get switched out based on distance from the player, the system automatically determines the detail level needed and applies it to one model. I'll try and come up with my own example of that later, but for now I have to get to class. Laterz.

[Jakens]

I will just buy the games I want for the system they come out on. If it is multi-format, then I look at the experience I would have playing on one over the other.

[TheThinker]

This is an entirely subjective article and the term "graphics" is very ambiguous. You can look at a Rembrant painting and still complain at its lack of detail! And even then, you'd have to justify what you mean by "lack". I like realism a lot, but I have freeware games that have retro graphics that are still cool in my opinion. In short, it's all a matter of taste.

Show me an equation or some sort of definitive proof that a console's graphics are "better" and I'll show you games on that console that suck in that department.

Anti-fanboys, unite!

[JIN KAZAMA]

Why dont you PAY attention. The game is called MotorStorm you idiot. ALL of your posts about the game, you call it MotoStorm. How can you compare a game, when you havent even taken the TIME to FIND OUT ITS NAME.
MOTORSTORM, not MotoStorm.

[power of Green]

No need to be so rabid. MotorStorm is that better. Sorry that i have to report your comment as offensive spam. Thanks for looking out.

[power of Green]

Everybodies already read the 10 page tech comparesons of the two console's which states the 360 will be able to achieve graphics closer to KillZone CGI. Don't make me post that 10 page artical again.

#33.1 Agreed, the 2nd coming of Christ hype with all that's PS is stupid and is the only reason i find myself even caring about PS3 related news.

[power of Green]

Buggy

[PureGamer]

i dont i care about the games as i stated before look what your arguing over, yes thats right a f'in games console jesus wept. Oh and power of green go home m8 your just trying to follow in the footsteps of your idol themart, i mean cmon why do you even comment on the PS3 just go away. Your a disgrace, shame to see that most of the bill gates riders who come on here are american am i right?

[USMChardcharger]

why don't you finish. i would like to hear why you bring up my country. are you indicating Americans are a disgrace?

what is point? it has nothing to do with this article.

are you the type to attack someone's race, place of origin, or religion? we know one of those seems to be the case.

[Odiah]

Both consoles games look good, why get so heps up over it?

[Maddens Raiders]

You make some very good points when it comes to your own experiences between the 360 and the PS3. Post #12 really drives home the idea i think. I've been telling my comrades on this site that from a graphical standpoint the PS3 games look absolutely spectacular - alot of people yell gaqmeplay, and yes it's a huge factor for me, but graphics are what makes me tick. Even Genji (which I think is a very ambitious game and can't wait for 2) looks stunning in parts for a game that got slaughtered by the early reviews of the press. The colors, trees, water, buildings, fire and character details are nothing less than outstanding in that game and let's not even begin to talk about Motorstorm. Hell yeah I love RFOM and Gears, but I'm not going to get in a p*ssng contest here over which is better blah, best, longer, blah, multiplayer, blah.... Each game is kick ass in it's own right and deserves the accolades. I will say however, (get ready for MAJOR flameage) that RFOM on my TV (Bravia) played through the good 'ol component cables is maybe (maybe) a hair better in some spots when compared to RFOM, but then again there's areas in RFOM (played through Rocketfish HDMI cable) that aren't replicated on GOW and just outshine it hands down. I think people (critics) for the most part were just astounded with GOW from the jump because no one had ever seen that type of gameplay nor character modelling coming from a home-based console before. It was easy to crown MS an early victor and I think people were proud to give it to them and let's face it - there was no other competition & people expected MS to get out games like GOW a lot sooner - that's what MS jumped into the race early to do - to beat SNE to the punch, but ironically a year latger these PS# games don't look bad, as a matter of fact they look damn good. I know there are those out there who say that HDMI doesn't really matter, but after playing MS games like Lost Planet and then kicking on RFOM, NHL2K7, Motorstorm, or GTHD, with and HDMI connection there's no question as to which picture looks better. I have nothing against MS. They are good at what they do. MS has SNE beat right now hands down with XBOX Live, but the graphical department for the PS3 is turning heads and coming on strong out of the box -- and that "CELL" word can't help but come to mind. KZII will be time to put up or shut up and I can't wait.

P.S. I've been promising you guys some pics of my setup and gameroom since I returned from Chicago for the holidays. The following are just a few of what I'll upload in the hours (days) to come. Lemme know what you think. Now get out there and GAME!

Please excuse the roughness of some of the pics, but it's just one of those days. Enjoy the games, and periph's, I love 'em all. Almost as much as my beloved TEXAS. If you're ready to game -- let's Game!

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Life is good. Thank God. Where else, but Tejas??? =]

[Grown Folks Talk]

but your sweatshirt is a no no. BOOMER SOONER! the streak begins again.

[InMyOpinion]

Home of the death penalty! Where mass murder is legal! Kill 'em all! Yay!

[MissAubrey]

but you got some nice things there.

[Maddens Raiders]

Yeah dude I was thinking the same thing when I saw the photo.lol Actually that was the first time anyone's called me fat, but I guess the baggy clothes can be a little deceiving. As far as the mass murder comment - hmmm... obviously jenzo you're just being sterotypical in you're thoughts and pre-disposition and no one's gonna change your mind I'm certainly not gonna try. But all I can say is that anyone who is wrongfully executed, (God be with you) because 99% of the people executed in this state have done things that they shouldn't have. I guess letting child rapists, mother & father killers, and real mass murderers (Killeen) go scott free is the way they do things in you're neck o' the woods.

[True Gamer]

Awesome setup man.

[InMyOpinion]

Maybe there's a reason people become child rapists, murderers etc. Seems like you judge people purely on their impulsive actions not taking in mind what the person responsible has gone through before doing it. You seem to believe that some people are born evil, which is just christian bs. Psychology works. In my country we have no death penalty and it's against the law to have guns in your home. Our crime rate is nowhere near the chaos you live in. Instead of solving the problem you're trying to kill it.

[Odiah]

They love you to the end!!!! <3<3

[Raist]

Can't remember who said that PDZ looks better than RFoM, but that's like the funniest thing i've ever read.

PDZ
http://www.micromania.fr/sp...
http://img.gamespot.com/gam...

RFoM
http://static.flickr.com/11...
http://static.flickr.com/10...

Now excuse me, i'm just goin' to rofllmao one hour or two.

I hope you guys enjoy GoW and its LOD issues btw. Textures looking like crap on the background.

[PureGamer]

LOL that PDZ first picture looks like somthing off a 1980's arcade machine, raiders thats some collection and nice car! the only question why 2 PS3's ??? ye and raist soz read ya wrong lol

[Raist]

nevermind

[Grown Folks Talk]

then think about what you wrote.

[DJ]

Those photos of Resistance prove that. PDZ looks absolutely horrific compared to Insomniac's launch title.

[MissAubrey]

use these instead
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Please note that this game is a rushed Launch game made over a year ago. that skipped testing.

[candystop]

Those picks blow RFOM out of the freking water seriously! I remember that wall and think that it's crazy how a launch game for 360 can look so much better than one for PS3! I cant wait for this years E3 whatever its called, TGS, and XO7!

[GaMr-]

Nice set up bro. Now I need your honest opinion. I noticed you owned Street fighter anniversary collection on the PS2. Now honestly. Hands down 3rd strike is not the best dammn street fighter ever. Second place going to Alhpa 3.

BTW: I was also under the impression that you looked like bruce lee. You kinda ruinded that for me. Even though I used to find it hella funny.

[Maddens Raiders]

There are more games in the collection that I didn't have in that set of photos including Alpha3. I must say that I am a traditional old schooler, but LOVE 3rd strike and just plain 'ol SF II (turbo or non) on equal footing. There's a huge soft spot in my heart for Marvel vs. Capcom II and Rival Schools just rocks the house - (Nex-gen model plz)!

Sorry to scare ya with my mug, but didn't think anyone would believe the Polaroid was authentic. People always say I'm like a chameleon, because I never look the same twice in one day, and have been a little under the weather as of late, so there ya go. Didn't mean to ruin the Bruce Lee image for ya. I love Bruce and own every single one of his movies. He was (& still is to me) the world's best crafstsman at his art for the time and yet, he remained humble respectful, and remained true to the art 'til his death. He will always be the Greatest Martial Artist in my mind; therefore he remains my rep.

[Siesser]

Did someone mention Rival Schools? Bat-Swiiiiiing! Shoma ruled; when the bat connects, that's literally the sickest sound effect I've come across yet in gaming.

[ApocalypseShadow]

the early posts were right.when perfect dark zero,king kong,tony hawk wasteland,pgr3,call of duty 2,amped and so on came out.people looked at the graphics and said "it's upgraded xbox games.""it's xbox 1.5."and 360 gamers said wait until you see mass effect,gears of war,bio shock and so on.so we waited.and found that the games did get better looking.

but now your comments changed when ps3 came out."why do we have to wait for ps3's power?""ps3 gamers are always telling us to wait."360 multiplatform games look better on 360 than the ports to ps3."of course they would.they were made on it's strengths then dragged over to ps3.as for resistance,it is a good looking game.but to take a game from one dev as proof that this is all ps3 can do is "fanboy foolish."i could point out terrible(for 360)looking games that are still coming out a year later for microsoft's system.what's the excuse for that?if resistance was using unreal engine 3 and utilized ps3's cell power,would we even have these LAME comparisons.

let's look at gears.where's all those colors 360 is supposed to have?i see it in mass effect.i see it in bioshock.don't see it in gears of war.i don't see tone of enemies onscreen.where's the power?there's more enemies in one area of kameo than gears whole game.what happened there?thought those three processors were mind bogglingly powerful?made specifically for games? killswitch gameplay?

sony did hype ps3.so what.that's their right.they want to sell it.it's business.if you were fooled by sony or microsoft,then who is the fool?why is sony using game footage for commercials and microsoft using CG?spin that into a positive.

all these "sony lies this" and "sony lies that".holding sony to this high standard,but microsoft get's the pass.also,let's see someone try to spin abandoning 24 million gamers with no games into a positive.

all these 360 gamer ps3 news articles.not talking about you madden raiders.and most is always negative.

[zonetrooper5]

PDZ does look pretty but MS pushed Rare to make it a launch title, it didn't even go through debugging mode. I might have to find a link to prove to guys that its the truth, thats what my friend has told me but i will try and find some evidence.

[ammojoe]

“What you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent answer did you approach anything even close to an answer. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having heard it. You are awarded no points, and may God have mercy on your soul”

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

Buddy if this would be true, this game would be hardly playable. Looks like you have no idea about game developing and talk of your ass.

Shadow - Good post. Truth was enforced.

[Boink]

news like this really brings the great out of the woodwork:)

[Dragonopolis]

In three years maybe, but comparing now is stupid. Another thing I find that is funny is how the Xbox 360 developers are so quick to to try to place GoW as a First Gen Game. Its not. I believe it goes by years. Anything released within the first year of the machine is a first Gen Title. GOW was released right on the eve of second generation so one could argue that it is first but because the quality leaps above the rest of the Xbox 360 games I place it second gen (so do others).

I have an Xbox 360 and I find others that have xbox 360s to consider GoW second gen. Now, when I saw my buddy ps3 and Resistance - I was impressed. If GoW and Resistance were in a Track Meet Resistance is in a very, very, close Second. You can't even put Launch Titles from the Xbox 360 anywhere close to these games.

Despite the graphics not quite up to par with GoW, (and that's expected) it is still a fun game to play and try to stop by my buddy's house every now and then to get some Resistance game time in. I plan on buying a PS3(when I get the money, damn expensive). My friend, also download the Gran Turismo HD and I was impressed by the demo and is better than any option I have right now for the Xbox 360 as far as racing.

Exclusives is the only way to go when comparing technology. Assassin's Creed was mentioned in the video but it's cross-platform and I doubt they are going to favor one platform over the other and will try to make the game look as close to the same as possible regardless if the either machine had more power to give or not. As always, if there is a game that looks better and plays better (better frame rates, etc) than Assassin's Creed then whose fault is it? The Hardware's fault or the Programmers?

This goes for Xbox 360 as well. GoW is awesome and why did we have to wait for one year to get such a game. I remember MS and their loyal subjects (Xbox favored developers) praising how easy it was to program for the Xbox 360 compared to the PS3 which would supposedly allow developers to better make games. Well were is this advantage? I have Gears of War to show for it after a year. In the next 6 months, the PS3 will have games release for it that may surpass GOW - exclusive or non-exclusive.

This is my rant! I believe that the Xbox 360 is a great machine but I have started to see the big picture. Microsoft is/has started to fall for their own 'We are better than Sony' advertising. They, and developers, for the Xbox 360 have let a Year advantage slip by while Sony Camp preps for battle.

Both machines are Powerful enough to satisfy the Next Gen Console Generation but its not the Hardware that will kill the machine it will be who is the most Prideful. Right now MS is swimming in it and if they don't pull their heads out of their you-know-what then Sony will slip right buy them!

That said, I still love playing games on my Xbox 360 and when I finally get my PS3 I'll probably enjoy playing games on that too. I won't need to worry about HD Movies for the xbox 360 because when I buy my PS3 this year it will come with it. I'm a gamer not a movie watcher. If it isn't included I don't go out to get it. I never have owned a DVD player and I doubt I'll own a stand-alone HD player as well. I have a PC and consoles that fill that spot. If the consoles didn't come with it I would have bought a PC that included HD movie playing.

I have always owned at least two consoles and that isn't going to change. Why limit your choices.? Just because some kid or poor person can't purchase a $500-$600 console doesn't make the console less powerful - just makes it more expensive. There are enough hardware features to justify PS3 cost and from what I see the PS3 will have no problem competing graphically with the Xbox 360. Combined the Xbox 360 and PS3 are a thousand dollars and that's still cheaper than my PC which, at $1200, is no game machine.

Just be happy that we can game at 720p for $400 and possibly game at 1080p or at least provide more options for exclusive games for another $600.

Value HD gaming has never been better. Can't wait to see the Next Generation Console/maybe even PC Wars. (Once DX10 gets the kinks worked out should be better). Lets hope MS, Sony, and Nintendo stay around the same price range.

[spacetoilet]

Im a PS3 owner and I don't want a 360 because I like Jap rpg's and such. But I admit that the 360 screen image is very nice, I'm not sure but I think the anti aliasing seems to be always on on the 360 and I like that allot. Ala' old Nintendo gamecube, Dreamcast. But having said that, it really doesn't make that much of a difference when playing the games in front of you. Oh, and one more thing, gamespot $ucks Microsofts ass so much, you cant believe anything they say about comparisons. If you look at the COD3 shots, they have the gamma way up on they ps3 shots. Actual gfx show no difference at all.
P.s. We don't care how 'great' xbox live is. I will NEVER pay for online gaming. That is the definition of bull$hit.

[o Su1cyDal o]

Is it me, or does 90% of PS3 games look as if they have been washed with bleach?

[ammojoe]

Get a new TV bro.. j/k

[MikeIsOnFire84]

I think sony is secretly run by the organization pictured below.

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

give it a rest, everyday the same ole' sh1t.

Why not enjoy both!? : ] >

PS. Games may look better on the PS3 but the 360 has the better games! WORD.

[ammojoe]

I am enjoying both the 360 and the PS3. So many little fanboy f*cks in here. Out of a hundred or more posts here there are nothing but PS3 or Xbox 360 bashing or personal attacks? Even one guy was bashing americans?? Cant we all just let MS and Sony duke it out and all agree that we are going to reap the benifits?? In 3 years both systems are going to still rock and have plenty of great titles. Dont you people realize this??

[Balance]

see it is the opposite for me, i only play games online, i HATE japanese rpgs and animie games with little boys and girls. the only single player games i enjoy are GTA type games which is no longer on the PS. so the ps3 holds nothing to interest me since assassins creed is now on the 360 also.
i guess when people compare the two they feel like they are getting more bang for the buck with the 360.
but even at the demo stations i have noticed more frame rate drops in the ps3 games they have in there. i am sure that will get better with time, but the games i enjoy just are not on the PS this time around.

and i happily pay for xbox live, there is so much in there to watch and play and do, well worth the few bucks a month.

ps. the few times i have seen the same game on the 360 and ps3 side by side the 360 is ever so slightly better but seems to run much smoother, with a MUCH better controller.

[Zhoutai]

I have played the 360, but I have not played the PS3. I have also played the Wii and the graphics are no where as near as good as the 360 but yet I had a better time playing the Wii. That right there proves that graphics are not everything. But TheMART, I will have to disagree with you dude. In the photos you have shown here there is barely any differences in the pictures. Xbox360= Darker, PS3= Lighter. That is all. You prove no Valid point at all. And you claim that FNR3 looks better with 360? How come you can see the veins and sweat better on the PS3? Now you did have a valid point between GOW and RFOM. GOW does win hands down but RFOM is a launch title, and still has almost as good graphics as GOW. The PS3 will have a good future ahead of it. It took the 360 a whole year to get where it is now and the PS3 is already at the point where the 360 is now. The GPU's of both machines are very very good but on the 360 you have a superior GPU but not by very much at all. The processor is inferior however. But when you look at the RSX with the Cell processor it makes up the difference and then adds some.

Sorry if I rambled on and on lol, well have a good day peeps. I respect each and every one of your opinions but I'm just trying to stop false information from fanboys

[candystop]

GOW2 has nothing on 360 games but does look good for a PS2 title and yes I said PS2 title! I cant find any good news on PS3 and think it's to funny that you guys resort to trying to paint a pretty picture when you know damn well that the grass isnt greener on the PS3 side right now and may never be! Now one thing I will do myself is wait for a year or two to see just how much the games improve for PS3 to make a decision on if it's worth the purchase or not! 360 is an excellent machine pushing some really impressive games out and visuals that unfortunatley surpass anything else out there at the current moment! You guys can talk down on the 360 all you want but my eyes dont lie and I have enough common sense to look at whats out there and whats coming to 360 and would be a fool to deny it as being the most impressive console with the most impressive feature and services to date! Oh and i'm not knocking PS3 at all but can see something is wrong with it and there not getting my hard earned cash until I start hearing some good news or seeing something that will make me want it! Did anyone happen to watch the 1up show this pass friday and listen to the 360 and PS3 comparision? Well if you didn't heres the link and listen to once again more bad news about PS3! http://www.tmttsoftware.com...

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

Brother man! +_+

[FirstknighT]

"Do Games Look Better on the PS3?"

Simple answer...NOPE! It's already been proven time and time again that the 360 games looks better. This is old news already. No need to discuss this any further.

[The great 1]

If any games look worse on PS3, it's down to lame developers rushing games for the sake of money, it's nothing to do whith what console is superior, PS3 is only using 20% of it's power right now, imagine how it will look in 2 or 3 years from now, i reckon we will see CGI Killzone 2005 style graphics oh yea.

[TheMART]

PS3 is using 20% of it's power now?

You believe that marketingtalk? Nice one.

Ofcourse, every console will get better games through it's life cycle. That's not only with the PS3, it's the same with the 360.

I heard again someone say:

"PS3 has 1st gen titles, the 360 2nd gen... Wait untill..."

blablabla

No waiting. When 2nd gen PS3 games launch, 3rd gen 360 titles are here.

@ Zhoutai

I think you need a new monitor to watch the COD3 comparison.

I will be quoting the guys that know it (it's with the link I've given earlier also, can you read fanboys?)

"Call of Duty 3 has made its way onto just about every major console, but it definitely looks best on the Xbox 360. The PlayStation 3 comes in a close second, but the 360 is the clear winner. The textures have less detail on the PS3, and the game looks a little washed out. Between the overly bright visuals and muddy textures, the PlayStation 3 can't match the 360 version's gritty look."

Lets break it down for ya:

- The 360 is the clear winner
- Textures have less detail on the PS3
- The game looks a little washed out
- Between overly bright visuals and muddy textures, the PS3 can't match the 360 version's gritty look

That's a bit more then saying the PS3 version is only lighter. Do all sony fanboys need glasses nowadays???

http://www.gamespot.com/fea...

The Cell is a great CPU... For processing video, which makes it a great BluRay player, which is a non standard as we speak. The 360 CPU is great for gaming, together with that GPU. We can't say the same of the PS3 combi, which is grabbed together because Sony didn't have enough time (read: they were pushed by MS releasing the 360 to come with a product, how rushed and wrongly put together it would be).

And it shows. In many, many games, not just COD3. And yeah FNR3 is better on the 360 also.

Plus little one, for this kind of profile (it's Great 1's profile...):

"Guys like the Mart and Top Games; plus all the other Xbox 360 fanboy Bullshi**ers on this site are not really gamers, there just elitist idiots, who don't have a clue about gamming or share any love for it, just morons, geeks, nerds whatever you want to call them, who are obvioussly got nothign better to do with there time than promote there own selfish, pathetic, rubbish, no point, pointless, crappy views, if i wanted an Xbox 360 or thought for a second it was better or had better games, why haven't i bought 1, the answer, it's not, nor does it have better exclusives you morons, GT kills Fozra, Tekken kills DOA, Killzone 2 is an new era in FPS, MGS 4 is the stuff, as for Motorstorm it kills games like Viva piniata, banjoo kazooe lol, RFOM is fresh and inovating change to the usual FPS crap on Xbox, Heavingly Sword looks like it could cut the Brickish 360 in half, Lair is graphically superior to GOW, i could go on but i don't want to cause all the 360 nerds to have a tantrum now do we lol lol hahahahhahahahahhaha, if you don't like it i've got 2 words 4 ya Too Bad! Now go take your medice you XBOTS and no not the green juice Bill Gates gave yous!"

I will get your ass banned.

[Veryprettyboylovesth]

I think the xbox360 games will look the best for the next year or so untill developer get use to working on the PS3. it will be just like last Gen when it comes to ports one looks better then the other..

[timmyp53]

themart actually looked in his profile to dig that up ...wait does n4g pay u? nvm he has a life .. i think ..well anyway can't wait to go home play okami, finish up Final Fantasy 12, and go back on to GTHD and Resistance. peace~ xbots

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

You're so effing biased. The ported games OF COURSE look better on 360...with the exception of FNR3!!! We all KNOW it looks better on the PS3...even EA and OXM say that! I'm pretty sure you're a fanboy if you're peeing on Sony. Why can't you just buy both and get over it?

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

The whole 1st gen vs. 2nd gen games thing is based on developers not having the dev kits early enough. How can you ignore that? Right now, Gears outdoes everything else...but I'm pretty sure Unreal will look better on PS3 because it's being ported from PC directly TO PS3...same with PC to 360. The PS3 has the advantage graphics-wise...and anyone saying otherwise is a complete fanboy. We've known for awhile what the PS3 is capable of. You're ignoring the truth...and it's kind of sad.

You're still saying FNR3 looks better on 360?...wow dude...just...wow

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Dude, I don't know who you are, but I loved the post. It pretty much sums the gaming industry up right now. The wii is fun...but I think it will die out because the parents that bought them...and played them...no longer play them. Only the kids play it now. If you want quality games...either wait for Metroid 3 or get a PS3... The only good games on the 360 are multiplatform...except Gears. But even that's not 300-400 dollars worth of game. From what I'm seen, the PS3 will have better titles in the future...especially this year. (Halo 3 <don't even go there. It's gonna be terrible)

[ApocalypseShadow]

comment gets someone banned,then you should be banned for your opinion too.he didn't get personal.but you would never see what he says if you weren't always in the ps3 section.a system you won't be buying.

[FirstknighT]

If you actually read Marts comment...he's stating great1's bio in his profile. As you can see, it's very personal. Read the comment before you reply to it.

[Devastator_oftheweak]

I don't see how so many people can be such suck ups to the Microsoft Corporation and their evil (dic)tator Bill Gates. First off lets look back at the games that were originally released on the XBOX 360. None of these games was a MUST BUY, except for maybe COD 2. Tony Hawk's game was lame, PGR3 sucked more exhaust than a suicidal person with a hose and a garage. Dead or Alive 4 was decent, but nothing harnessed the power of the 360's GPU until gears of war. Sure FNR 3 was entertaining but it felt a little cartoony. I do say that the developers are finally getting a hang of it, but it still needs work. As for the PS3, yeah it had a lackluster launch, with only one true must buy title, Resistance Fall of Man. Put up against the onslaught of Gears, it held its own, and has a vast online community and followers eager to do deathmatches and other team related battles. I own both systems I own both games and enjoy both. I love the fast pace of Gears 4 on 4 style but at the same time I love the 40 person blitzkreig of Resistance. Now for all the Sony nay-sayers who say that Sony is done, or that the PS3 sucks, let me point out somethings you may have forgotten...
Heavenly Sword, Killzone 2, Final Fantasy XIII & XIII(versus), Haze, Unreal tournament 3, Eight Days. Sure none of these titles are out yet, but it took time for the 360 to achieve its library. And for all the sony fans out there (myself included), just be glad that we don't have Viva Pinata on our system, talk about G*y.

One more thing, I agree that both systems have a strength and a weakness to their online functionality, but at least with PS3 we get a web browser as well as a online service, and a 60 GIG hard drive that doesn't contain a whole bunch of worthless microsoft crap.

The winner of the console wars is still undecided, but when the dust does settle, wouldn't you want to be on the winning side....the Sony side.

[InMyOpinion]

I don't see RFOM winning any awards. I don't see what justifies the price of the Ps3, since it has a weaker games line-up than it's cheaper counterpart. Most people (except hardcore gadgetflashers) don't care about Blu-Ray or HD-DVD at the moment. They want good games, now. Maybe the Ps3 will be worth purchasing, but at the looks of it you'll be better off waiting another year until the real must buy titles drop in.

[FeralPhoenix]

The title of this article asks a VERY simple question....and the answer is a VERY simple NO. Now for those of you who may say its not that simple, well yeah, "IF" the question was "Why do PS3 games not look as good as 360 games,*currently?" then that would be a different question, and of course all the "theories"/excuses would be debatable. They asked a simple question, they looked at various games, and the simple answer is NO....-Really if this is the wrong conclusion...then why are so many PS3 fans, saying "yeah but", or "RFOM looks almost..." or "look at PDZ" or the classic "wait until..." -I personally love that one, it says everything you need to know in one statement, because the PS3 launch has come and gone and "NOW", nobody's blown away...Is that so terrible? Is the PS3 doomed? -No, only in a Xboxfanboys dreams....but it does show the WORLD what I have been telling the "extreme" Sonyfanboys/M$ haters for a long time, which is; "The 360 is one hell of a gaming console and the PS3 is great in its own right....but it won't ever, ever blow the 360 games away." IMO 360 games over the life cycle will always have a "slight" graphical edge over PS3(GPU), but as always it will come down to the type of games your prefer. Amazing huh?...Iam a Rocket Scientist in case you guys didn't know. -lol

[hyphymaniac]

okay so i get that the ps3 did just come out and all and it isnt fair to some people that it is being compared to 2nd generation xbox360 games but i disagree. for one thing if you recall the xbox was compared to the ps2 right? the ps2 had a library of games that the xbox couldnt even compete with but on the other hand, the games that did come out for the xbox were awesome. 2nd reason i compare the ps3 with the 360 is because if i remember correctly, sony stated that the ps3 would be leaps and bounds above the 360......im not seeing it. Sony set themselves up and they shouldve told the truth from the beginning. im not saying that microsoft never lies but can you tell me one tim microsoft ever said that the xbox 360 would be 2x more powerful than the ps3? nope. even thought the ps3 exclusives look good, i dont see them competing with the 360's main exclusive, gears of war. and whoever says that microsoft doesnt anything but fps you guessed wrong. btw i am a microsoft fanboy and nintendo fanboy and proud of it.

[The great 1]

Here i am not causing a flame war and just exspressing opinion and this idiot the Mart is saying i'm gonna get banned, how about all you people spam him so he gets banned, i bet he's pm all those Xbots right now to do that!

[FirstknighT]

waaaaaaaaaaa* waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa* waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa*

He's talking about your Bio on your profile nerd.

[nanometric]

Dude, can't wait for an Ace Combat online match with u on PS3... whenever that may be...

[Maddens Raiders]

like to hear man. This is the year that combat aviation (nex-gen style) should have us damn near throwing up in the lounger. I really hope Cellius can pull off some kick a$$ action in the The Unsung War: Behind Enemy Lines for the PS3 (just guessing.lol) mix in more realistic ground support, night and a/w missions and you've got a mixture for air combat bliss and combat fighter prOn. Like you said we'll see. THought I'd throw in another pic of my mug while on the beach instead of being under the weather and bundled all up:

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PSS - Jenzo, dude they're probably so many terrorists in your backyard that you wouldn't recognize them until they had your severed, bloody noggin in their clutches with your naive arse staring dead in their eye. (no pun) Still you would probably lobby to release them. You're an absolute mad man if you think I believe that innocent people should die or be persecuted. Your just being a pompous a$$ and not showing any respect for my judgement or character. All you know is what you've read in your biased paper and TV news about horrible America I guess, eh. Well get a clue, 'cause I bet the way your able to practise your peaceful, no guns komm-by-ya happy, fluffy world came at the expense of AMERICAN blood. I bet somewhere down the line it did. Tell the Truth. I'm not hear to preach, but hate people who take pot shots at others, because of where they live or are from w/o taking time to research and understand what the hell their talking about. I'll end with this:

-- "There are, in the body politic, economic and social, many a grave evils, and there is urgent necessity for the sternest war upon them."

-Theodore Roosevelt

[nanometric]

btw, i'm in the Sins & Saints EU, if it rings a bell

also, I do skate :D

[FeralPhoenix]

Hey Bro, good luck on your business....damm I've been contemplating starting something myself but nothing to do with a clothing line....uhm anyway I really wanted to comment because I agree with you about "AMERICAN blood"....again I don't want to preach, but Iam sick of these "slap in the face" negative comments about Americans because whether they disagree with our foreign policy or not theres no question that America is at the forefront when it comes to "TRYING" to HELP people around the world have a better life....it seems the "critics" only see OUR failures....but AMERICA/AMERICANS HAVE BY FAR GIVEN THE MOST AID TO THE LESS FORTUNATE IN MANY COUNTRIES AROUND WORLD and everyone forgets how many natural disasters like the Tsunami in Singapore, Thailand etc. that OUR MILITARY has deployed to at a moments notice to save lives. Now all of a sudden we're the "bad guys" in Iraq, even though the "other side" cuts off heads and blows up women and children "on purpose" to win. Yeah, I don't mind anyone disagreeing with whether or not it was the right or wrong descision to go into Iraq...."Free speech" and we're free to question the policies....thats democracy, but questioning OUR heart and implying we are the bad ones is just WRONG!, no matter where you are from, including America..."How quickly they forget." -Sorry for the rant, this site is about VIDEOGAMES, I'm done.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Ha....ha....hahahahahahaha..he .he.he hehehehehehe ahhhhhhhhhhh hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah <----need to breath.....bah hahahahahahahaha Time to break out a Heart Defibulator CLEAR!!!! hahahahahahaahah ha ha ha ha ha ha hahahahahahahaahhahaha hahahahahahahahahahah <---pick my self off the floor behahlolaaaahahahahahah ROFLMAO. That was good "Do Games Look Better on the PS3?" not yet Sony fans your still under the 360 on performance, graphics, games and online play. Maybe Sony will catch up, but right now sorry guys the truth is what it is. What’s really funny is Xbox out did the PS2 with graphics and online play but failed with the games (Yes I know the Xbox had great games just not as many), this time the 360 has graphics, games and online play.

On another note Do you Sony fans ever stop to wonder why that the PS3 is getting stomped by a system that’s a year and 3 months old? I will tell you the PS did well the PS2 did fantastically well. Did you expect Sony to win every time?. Not in a business where there are three competitors and the only way out of the console business is bankruptcy. MS, Sony and Nintendo aren’t going anywhere but Sony just might come in third I hope you guys can live with that. Unless you guys are going to keep showing sales charts for the PS3 vs the Xbox 3 (remember the PS2 vs. 360 crap you guys used to post)

[DJ]

It's post-holiday season. We haven't seen a new PS3 title in a month. And the heavy-hitters don't arrive until March. Don't expect the PS3 to topple 360's monthly sales until then.

[kornbeaner]

ports and multi-platform games are either gonna be even, sub-par, or just a tad above better on the PS3. The only time that games are gonna shine on the PS3 is when developers take their time and develop with the PS3 in mind. other then that the PS3 should really work on getting Exclusive content on their version of the each game. Since they have Blu-Ray developers can put more on to a disc without having to worry about compressing it later, this will truly be the one true benefit of having a Multi-platform game on the PS3.

[Boomer]

However, with games like Gears of War and Lost Planet, These games demostrate 360's ability. Unfortunately it's also the plateau. In a year these two games along with the soon to be released title Mass Effect has and will demonstrate that the 360 has already peaked in its performance. The games wont get much better than they are right now simply because the 360 is limited by own tech specs.

PS3 hasn't even gotten started and already the games look ALMOST as good as the 360. I own both machines because I can afford to, even so, I am convinced dollar for dollar the 360 is overpriced by 150$. With an extremely poor dvd drive, no HD-DVD gaming platform. Inability to switch to a non-proprietary hard-drive. DVD sounds like a constant train-wreck. Workmanship that looks like something made in po-dunk china. I like my 360 but I love my PS3.

I also am convince the PS3 is underpriced. I understand 600$ is a lot to most, however you have to understand what this machine can do potentially, it's simply incredible and most people are to narrow minded to really see what this thing can really do.

By the time you spend 400$ on a 360 and 200$ on the HD-DVD that will flop you could have bought a PS3. It's unbeleivable what people just can't comprehend.

[kornbeaner]

I have a 60 gig PS3 and love it and can't wait for heavenly sword, lair, motorstorm, MGS, DMC4. These games are gonna demostrate what is truely capable on a PS3 and that will be just the begin. The main thing holding back the 360 is the DVD-9 format. the GPU in the 360 is more powerful then the one in the PS3. but thats it. The PS3 has the potential victory when it comes to Blu-Ray and the Cell CPU. The one unfournate thing i see is alot of developers are gonna spend alot time learning new compressing techniques in order to get the awesome 360 graphics to fit onto as few DVD-9's as possible. I think games like Gears, Mass Effect, and lost planet are by no way the graphical plateau
of what the 360 is truely capable of, but after this year I think games of this caliber are gonna come more far apart and will be limited to devoted developers who want to spend alot of time with compression.

[FeralPhoenix]

"In a year these two games along with the soon to be released title Mass Effect has and will demonstrate that the 360 has already peaked in its performance."
[[uhm, you do know that on every other console that the overall games graphics have continued to IMPROVE throughout the life cycle, but of course according to YOU-the "secret dev insider" the 360 will be incapable of the task and the PS3 will "blow" us all away, like it was suppose to do in November]]

"The games wont get much better than they are right now simply because the 360 is limited by own tech specs."
[[ha, ha I guess you missed the fact that the 360 has a custom built GPU, while the RSX is pretty much old tech.....ask PSM(Playstation Magazine) if you don't believe me....but don't ask Sony 'cause its sooo powerful they refuse to release the "great" specs, yeah the Cell is powerful but its not "optimal" for gaming besides all the power in the world can't compensate for a "old" GPU, seriously alot of people in the gaming community have said similiar things about the Cell and especially the limits of the RSX(GPU) http://www.itvidya.com/play... Iam by no means a tech guy, but sooner or later you have to accept reality]]

"PS3 hasn't even gotten started and already the games look ALMOST as good as the 360."
[[keyword: "Almost", so how do we measure almost...'cause to be honest God of War "almost" looks as good most "nex gen" games; so here we go again, Hello World!, just Wait! until Sony delivers....this time You Will be Amazed, but don't hold us to that statement]]

"I own both machines because I can afford to, even so, I am convinced dollar for dollar the 360 is overpriced by 150$."
[[yeah, I can afford to own both, but there's nothing I want to play on the PS3 "yet"...and I have play RFoM on a friends PS3, but like I said...IMO its not worth it yet....its not the money, its the principle, but "to each his own."]]

"I also am convince the PS3 is underpriced. I understand 600$ is a lot to most, however you have to understand what this machine can dopotentially,..."
[[keyword: "potentially" -in other words "wait until..." and you say the 360 is overpriced, but the PS3 is underpriced -lol talk about a biased statement??]]
"...it's simply incredible and most people are to narrow minded to really see what this thing can really do."
[[look in the mirror buddy, but first pull off the SonyVisionGoggles]]

"By the time you spend 400$ on a 360 and 200$ on the HD-DVD that will flop you could have bought a PS3. It's unbeleivable what people just can't comprehend."
[[uhm, where have you been?....that's the whole point you don't *have to buy into the nex gen format war, personally I don't own either and again I can afford both, but I didn't attain the financial stability I have now because Iam careless with my money, not saying there's anything wrong with "early adoption" if thats what you "really" want, but I will just wait until "1" format has become standard and then I will buy that format...I'm still buying DVD's and they look awesome on my 50" Sony Plasma HDTV, I did download a HD movie on my 360 just to see what it looked like on my "badass" TV it looked awesome, but I still feel I have plenty of time to "ease into" HD, when "I'm ready". -Amazing huh?

[Maverick]

I consider myself a gamer not a fanboy and at the moment own a X360.
I've played all games released for the machine but only own 4.
And if you ever play the 360 you'll see that the games are good.
But yeah i think games have already reached its peak performance on 360 and it is showing.
360 has proven to be easy to develope for and PS3 has been proven to be a pain(eg.PS2) then why do they look so close in graphics at this point, so imagine in a years time.
PS. I do not play online if u are wondering about gamertags.

[vettle1]

anyone who thinks either machine has reached its peak is retarded. thats what everyone said about ninja gaiden on xbox and then chaos theory came out. im sure people said the same about ps2 too, but we all know the games continued to look better and better every year. no console not even the ps1 peaked, stupids. the games looked better and better every gen. so why would a console with so much inside peak already (it does have alot under the hood, if you say it doesnt then that is bad for the 600 dollar ps3 if it couldnt beat it easily already, and it hasnt, get over it its obvious right now, i cant predict next year or beyond but its whupped right now) it hasnt peaked and i feel sorry for people who try and justify a 600 dollar console purchase by telling themself that, its sad.