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Microsoft: Sony is less supportive of creative staff

Speaking to Kikizo, Microsoft Games Studio's General Manager Kudo Tsunoda has made a few provocative remarks about the Redmond giant's rivals. Tsunoda, who joined Microsoft in January to help shape Gears of War 2, feels that his new employer offers more creative support than any other publisher.

"Every new game I've worked on I've tried to bring some innovation to the title, and not just be making something that's like a knock-off of some other game," he said. "And I think that's why I would want to come to MGS, and also why they would want me to work here. I think they're just always looking for people who can bring really innovative design ideas to the table."

"For some people working in games, it's so much easier to either knock a game that's already out there," he went on. "Or take pieces from a game and assemble it into something else. It's just like all the people who've copied the Gears cover system: "wow there's something that worked really well, let's put that into out game.""

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Chris Hansen5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

"It's just like all the people who've copied the Gears cover system"

Just like how Gears of War copied KillSwitch's cover system? CliffyB is nothing more than a thief. Stealing someone elses idea and acting like he invented it.

Lips, Scene-it, Boku, Forza....
Talk about INNOVATION

gaffyh5642d ago

Devs always say that Sony never rushes them to finish a game and allows them time to do whatever they want to creatively i.e. Team ICO, Guerilla Games, Level-5 (remember when MS cancelled their project when it was almost complete).

Unlike MS which obviously rushed Halo 3 development and now got rid of ensemble whilst they were making Halo Wars.

boodybandit5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

and utter stupidity / embarrassment.
I let you guys decide which this was.

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fishd5642d ago

That's the main problem of MS,Their gaming division is run by fanboys,stupid fanboys who has nothing else to do but fan the flames of fanboy wars.

*sigh*

Nathan Drake5642d ago

All their rip-offs have tanked

Aclay5642d ago

Sony less supportive of creative staff?

Have Microsoft forgotten about Team ICO and Media Molecule? Both of those studios have put some some pretty creative games, and both of Team ICO's games(Shadow of the Colossus and ICO) are considered some of the greatest PS2 games of all time and are highly regarded.

If Insomniac has been an independant developer for this long and has remained Sony exclusive for this long, then obviously there IS plenty of support from Sony towards creative staff because I don't think that Insomniac would have stuck with Sony this long if they weren't.

Genesis55642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

MS has one great big collective mouth and it never seems to know when to shut up.

BrianC62345642d ago

I didn't waste my time reading this dumb interview. When I saw the part about he chose Microsoft over Sony because Microsoft offers more creative support I knew it wasn't worth reading. Microsoft knows nothing about being creative. Their idea of creative is buy the competition or squish them. I wonder if Sony even offered him a job? Probably not.

jadenkorri5642d ago

this guy hasn't even worked with sony, the whole interview, only mentions sony as a possbible job offer...so what he went to MGS, good for him...the main headline is from 360 fanboy Kush_Reaper.... BTW, i laughed my ass off when people were coping Gears of War... Ya people from MS must go really far claiming they created everything orginal...just like avatars was MS original idea....right...

pain777pas5642d ago

The arrogance of M$ is appaling seriously they better qft because I have a strange feeling at the end of the day with all that they have done they are going to be dead last at the end of this gen.

ablecain5642d ago

Microsoft is far and away the least innovative company on the market. They pride themselves in stealing PS3 exclusives (you saw E3 this year), and everything else they've produced has been a knockoff of something else.

Lips, the use of Avatars, that upcoming level creator game... Anybody insisting that MS is innovative is simply foolish.

Kaneda5642d ago

and the sad thing is people are still buying their products. :) when people work at M$ don't know what they are doing.

Avatar was creative.. NOT!!!

prowiew5642d ago

The title is a little misleading. He never says it like that. People need to read articles.

Beast_Master5642d ago

Yes They are so supportive of creative ideas that is why the ran every last person from the original Rare team to leave. It is why Bungie is on thin ice, why they dispanded Ensemble Studios and closed 3 others. Let's not forget they let Bio-Ware and Pandemic walk over to EA. Yes this is certainly a company I would love to work for.

house5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

wow! if any one pays attention microsoft is the one thats more inecfted with a sickness of not being able to make there own stuff. here take the red pill and wake up cause if you think they have have an open mind you need it

cmrbe5642d ago

Who took big risk on Lair, LBP, Afrika, EOJ?

What creative or new and innovative games have MS FIRST PARTY released?.

Gears cover if from Kill switch and even then they are 3 party.

With comments like these its obvious that MS is loosing it. Wow! just wow.

ShinMaster5642d ago

Sony being called less creative by Microsoft is like being called yellow by a bunch of bananas.

Seriously, Lips, Avatars, and Gears of War's cover system is NOT NEW IN ANY WAY. Not just Killswitch, but also Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror had the cover system almost a year before Gears of War.

P.S. Gears of War 2's cover system was inspired by Uncharted.

Danja5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

I didn't even bother read the entire article.....

If this guy think that M$ produces more innovative games than Sony then he's smoking something from another universe..

Lair
Heavy Rain
Echochrome
SoTC
ICO
Afrika
EOJ
Flow
Singstar - was the 1st of it's kind
Eye Toy...

just to name a few..

SaiyanFury5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

Wow big shock, another MS employee from EA shooting his mouth off, the other being Don Mattrick. MS seems to enjoy hiring big mouthed ex-EA employees. Like their Windows Vista operating system, MS's employees, at least the ones with microphones pointed at them, are over bloated.

Sony not giving enough creative freedoms to it's studios? BS. Some of the most creative games in the industry have been on the PS consoles. Jak & Daxter, Ratchet & Clank, LittleBIGPlanet and the list goes on and on. Sony studios regularly testify that they love working under Sony BECAUSE of the creative freedoms they're given. Don't listen to this PR spin put out by yet another ex-EA staff member. I swear MS hires people not based on ability but based on how much smoke they blow.

INehalemEXI5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

Bubs, being called yellow by a bunch of bananas. 2funny.

ryuyasho5641d ago

plagiarism and MS does it with great passion. Check this out, dating back to the N64 era ladies and gents...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

talk about INNOVATION... fockers

ahh and for the record , Halo 1 is THE BEST of the 3...

pwnsause5641d ago

"Who took big risk on Lair, LBP, Afrika, EOJ?"

Dont forget Eyepet. If theres any company thats taking big Risks right now, its Sony, the fact that they axed The GetaWay 3 and 8 Days for Eyepet, clearly shows that Sony wants a Huge piece of that Casual Crowd. LBP is a primary example of that as well.

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Euphrate5642d ago

CLICK AGREE IF YOU AGREE, AND TAKE BUBBLES AWAY FROM 360 FANBOYS.

IF YOU DON'T GETFO.

SONYSLAVE5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

poor poor ps3 fanboys takes so little for you to get so mad

just cause the ps3 is in 3rd place still don't mean you have to be so angry at microsoft.

just calm down, go watch some bluray or watch metal green solid 4

xlx-russ nice putting the word gay in those titles thats a really big insult thats like a racist calling obama obama bin ladin

xlx-russ_925642d ago

ok, then u go play some Gayble 2/Gaylo 3/ or Queers of War 2

Nathan Drake5642d ago

Or like how Gears of war copied Kill.Switch,Resident Evil 4,and the God of War series.

It's amazing how ignorant Microsoft's employees are,it truly is.

DarK-SilV5642d ago

waiting for hiphopgamer to smash this idiot

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NowGen5642d ago

look how angry sony fans still get just by some dumb article. i think sony fans should be worrying about moving up out of the next gen basement instead of stupid stories like this one.

kevnb5641d ago

singstar is only karaoke, while lips is a game that revolves around karaoke.

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sajj3165642d ago

that's interesting ... how can you be creative if you don't have an office to be creative in? How many more studios are going to get cut? Epic is not under MGS and neither is Bungie (anymore) so please put on your development hat and not your publisher hat. I want MS to start supporting their OWN studios and push out some killer exclusives.

ruibing5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Who fills their arcade with remakes while frustrating developers making original games? Who has just decided to shutdown Ensemble after getting them to make a RTS for the Halo franchise? Who fills their "original" catalog of family games with Scene It (Buzz), Lips (Singstar), and You're In The Movies (EyeToy)? The sad thing is that I can go on.

Kush_Reaper5642d ago

We all know sony are there the innovators. And besides the guy hasn't even work with sony. He is just sprouting fud like the rest of M$ PR's.

OBAMA!!!

kid from brooklyn5642d ago

Innovation = Little Big Planet, Unchartered, Resistance, Killzone, Warhawk, MGS4 & the rest of the unbelievable titles I have enjoyed so far on the PS3. MS has a big mouth and should just shut the F-CK up.

Scotracer5642d ago

How on earth are Uncharted, Killzone and Resistance innovative? They are just run of the mill games. that doesn't make them bad by any means but let's be correct here...

somekindofmike5642d ago

Even though I'm a proud PS3 owner I still have to disagree, Uncharted, Resistance, MGS4 are in no way innovative. I haven't played Killzone or Warhawk so I can't really comment on them, but from what I've seen I wouldn't call them innovative. they're are all just Current Gen versions of their respected genres. They are all great games, but innovative? no.

Little Big Planet is the only game that can be argued to be innovative in my opinion.

I think what it comes down to is what is your definition of innovative?
I wouldn't call Resistance 2 innovative just for have 60player online matches, (as some people on N4G have been claiming) yes it's an great achievement, but more a natural evolution of the online FPS.

In my opinion Innovation is a buzz word which is thrown around too much and has lost it's true meaning in the gaming media.

somekindofmike5642d ago

Man you need to really look up the definition of 'innovation' in my opinion there are approximately 2 or 3 innovative games every console generation if we are lucky. To get onto that list it has nothing to do with graphics! Art style maybe, Jet Set Radio, Okami, Mirrors Edge, Madworld, No More Heros and Wind Waker are all examples of unique art styles not obsessed with polygon counts, however art style alone wouldn't be enough to create an innovative game. (and it doesn't have to be considered at all)

We need to look at the bigger picture with games to truely see what is innovative, and sometimes it's easier to point out innovative games when we look back into the history of gaming rather than try and point out what is innovative today.

kid from brooklyn5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

Unchartered has some of the best graphics on a console ever. Unbelievable storytelling and the first adventure game to include an innovative cover system.

Resistance 2 is 3 games in one in my opinion. Coop, Competitive and Single player Campaign. Coop alone is innovation....8 players, different storyline to the original & a balanced system. You simply cannot finish without team work and every class must be equally represented.

Killzone is second to none graphically and boasts a class system that has never been done before in an online multiplayer.

To me this represents innovation. Sony doesn't shine up graphics like what was done with GeOW2 and slap another 60 dollar price tag on the box. A couple of new multiplayer maps and locations does not represent innovation. Innovation to me is something that hasn't been done before or something that has been perfected. I for one do not consider a Garden Sim (Viva Pinata) and a car building game (Banjo) innovative.

Edit @ Somekindofmike We have different opinions of what equals innovation. "Agree to disagree" Ron Burgundy

somekindofmike5642d ago

First off, I will agree to disagree - I'm not trying to change your opinion, I just don't agree with it.

From what you said you put a lot of emphasis on graphics, - based on your comments for uncharted & Killzone. I for one want to know how many times I've got to see a cover system in a game before it stops getting described as 'innovative' regardless of what genre it pops up in. Also Like I said with Killzone in a previous comment, I haven't tried it yet, I will be giving it a go when it comes out. All I've really heard about Killzone is how amazing it looks, maybe I've overlook other parts of the game?

Also from how you describe R2 Co-op in particular I can see your point, it's another game I haven't tried yet but hopefully will be in the near future. whether I think it qualifies as innovative or not I'll have to wait and see.

Anyway Kudos for replying. Bubbles to you for stating your point and not just hitting 'disagree' I respect that.

P.S.Innovative games this gen in my book inc. Portal & LBP (i'll add another post if I think of more)

kid from brooklyn5642d ago

Yes we do obviously disagree as I dont feel something has to be completely different to be considered innovative. If a cure for a disease is discovered using preexisting techniques I would consider that innovative, wouldn't you? I mean no disrespect to anyone on the board by this as I am just trying to make a point. Innovation, no matter field, should have a consistent definition and should not mean something totally different in the video game industry.

somekindofmike5642d ago

I don't believe something has to be comepletely unique to qualify as innovative...

Portal combines First Person Perspective we are very familiar with simple button pushing puzzles, with only the portal gun being 'new'

Little Big Planet is just a platformer combined with physics engine and a really good level editor.

It's all about the bigger picture for me, What do all the individual elements equal up to, and how do they come together?

What I define as innovative I apply to all mediums be it film, books, games, art, packaging, web design, even wallpaper design! anything! However I can only really discuss what I consider to be innovative in areas which I am knowledgeable, and my knowledge is within art and design, medicine being a science isn't really my strong point and I don't think I know enough about the subject to try and claim to know what is innovative or not.

Anyway I'm out of bubbles now, so peace out, besides you win anyway. You got three agrees, I only got two, then everyone got bored of our conversation :)

MONOLITHICIDE5642d ago (Edited 5642d ago )

actually i thought your guys different opinions on inovation were intriging, that was the first normal down to earth convo ive seen on this sight ever, none of that fanboy bullshit came up between the 2, just 2 different prespectives on what inovation is, i can honestly say i agree with both, some agrees and disagrees with both, good convo.

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander19729h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing698h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander19727h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto7h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander19727h ago(Edited 7h ago)

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto7h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander19726h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff21834h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto3h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander197210m ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv727h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh5h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander19725h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

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1Victor9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix768h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand1258h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC7h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander19727h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC7h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia4h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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Vader823d ago

No 7 days to die is criminal