Control Ultimate Edition - how next-gen consoles transform a classic game

Ultimately, Control has transitioned nicely onto the next generation machines. It's clearly a big step-up over the last-gen versions of the game - even running on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X. The ray tracing effects are beautiful, while playing Control at 60fps takes the gameplay to another level.

[SullysCigar]

Sounds great - now tell me more about that DualSense integration, because this game represents a great opportunity to benefit from it no end.

[RazzerRedux]

Exactly. There are three things about PS5 that are truly next gen to me: 1) 60 fps 2) DualSense 3) Audio. As far as I'm concerned, you can keep native 4K and ray tracing.

[ocelot07]

Agreed they are nice expecially ray tracing. But now when it takes away so much performance.

For example COD Cold War. I much rather run that at performance mode at a rock solid 60fps rather than enable ray tracing and have the odd FPS dip.

[RazzerRedux]

@ocelot07

As a PC gamer, gaming on PS4 became such a chore. 30fps just doesn't cut it. I'm used to dialing down all kinds of settings and resolution to get my games up to 60fps. Others may prefer the higher fidelity and that is fine. The great thing is now we have the option.

I guess that it is the fourth thing that feels next gen: 4) Performance vs Quality Modes.

[CaptainHenry916]

As a PC gamer we had 60fps for over a decade lol. It's not really new to me anymore. But I'm glad the consoles can do it now

[RazzerRedux]

Hilarious that what I posted is controversial to some. So....tell me why.

[SullysCigar]

^ I guess it's because you mentioned DualSense and audio, which are both PS5 advantages - maybe that upset some people? God knows.. :^/

[UnSelf]

At what time is this game being uploaded to PS+??

[DevilOgreFish]

https://youtu.be/-Vn9LXYdyf...
DF @ 13:56 - "so yes these RT reflections are lower on a playstation 5 but they are honestly higher resolution than a number of other ps5 games with RT reflections."

Imagine that. Control's "low" RT settings are actually "high" compared to other ps5 games.
so that makes it currently the only real title that can truly pull off the feature in consoles.

[Fritzwochel]

At least the PC couldn't match the PS5 loading times!
Exciting to see how the XSX version compares to this.

[RpgSama]

I find it funny how they are now doing initial comparisons against PC and not Series X

[dumahim]

Doesn't seem like they have access to Series X version yet.

[shabz666]

I think df doesn’t have the Xbox version or they are under embargo. Remedy has a deal with sony. They did this highlight engine video with Cold War too focusing on PlayStation only. It’s all business. Also keep in mind control is Launching on psplus soon and control came out on psnow first. I’m sure tom will get into it in his upcoming analysis with the series consoles.

Such a great game btw. People should definitely play this. And the game looks so good on ps5. Control was one of the best games of last gen. Grew up playing max payne so really happy to see remedy doing well.

[Michiel1989]

why wouldnt they? the pc before these releases was the platform with the best experience.

anyway genuinely surprised about the loading times and that it runs this though of a game at such a rate, with raytracing since amd arent the best in that aspect when compared to nvidia. PC has its work cut out at least when it comes down to loading times.

[S2Killinit]

They are biased to the core. You can be sure if series x had an advantage, they would be doing a comparison

[ProjectVulcan]

When the difference in loading times is 5 seconds on PS5 v 7 seconds on PC with an SSD supposed to be half as fast (3.5GB/s) then it's irrelevant let's be honest. The main advantage of PC is the ability to do 60FPS with ray tracing enabled, RTX cards manage it fairly easily because of DLSS.

The best thing is the 30+ second load times are gone for consoles.

[Orchard]

@S2Killinit We've used DF as a comparison source for years - just because they said something nice about Xbox lately after 7 years of PS4 dominance doesn't mean they are biased lol.

They clearly state that they don't have access to the day 1 patch for Xbox.

[Tech5]

Fritzwochel -
"At least the PC couldn't match the PS5 loading times!"

they were not using newer PC SSDs.
PC also doesn't have a specific configuration....

[Neonridr]

that NVMe couldn't you mean. I wonder how the Samsung 980 Pro would fare.

[ABizzel1]

Gives up 60fps, for 30fps for Raytraced Coffee Pot... 🌝

That was a joke by the way, but Raytracing on console is going to be limited unless Pro console launch with a newer version of AMDs RDNA 3.0 or 4.0. The various forms of Raytracing can work anywhere from pretty-good, to flat out tanking AMDs RDNA 2.0 GPUs, and consoles are already using quarter resolution reflections in many cases.

It's great to have the option, but for those developers who have smaller teams, smaller budgets, and less resources, the higher framerate is more important IMO than raytracing.

[philm87]

I think any raytracing on £450 consoles is quite impressive as it's such a system hog. Personally I don't mind too much playing at 30fps, so I'll usually go for the better graphical 30fps option over the 60fps version. Always good to have the option between performance vs graphics modes on this gen though.

[ManMarmalade]

Same. Im not really picky about 30 or 60fps. I've never really noticed a big difference honestly. I just like to play and enjoy myself.

[lazyboyblue]

I'll play with ray tracing because the motion smoothing on my set is great and makes 30 nearly 60. Most hate motion smoothing for various reasons but I don't ever notice any of the negatives brought up against it.
I'd recommend people try it. It's not for everybody or even most but maybe I'm a little blind? Looks as good as 60 to me.

[Kurt Russell]

Maybe your TV is better than mine, but if I use motion smoothing I get some strange input lag.

[philm87]

Yeah the input lag is the main downside to motion smoothing. It will vary massively how much lag you get on different TVs.

[lazyboyblue]

If there's lag I'm not really noticing it. If that because the is non or I just ain't sensitive to it, I don't know.
What I do know ,after now playing it, is motion smoothing make the graphics mode feel very nearly as smooth as 60 mode but with ray tracing. Very pleased.
Tv is Samsung RU7470

[Guyfamily999]

The 60FPS is definitely the most important thing for me. I wish more devs had reconstruction methods similar to Isonmiac's temporal injection used in Spider-Man and R&C. 1440p holds up really well on a 4K TV using that tech.

[rpvenom]

Same, I hope more and more developers are able to figure out ways to do a performance + RT mode like miles morales. That's ideal in most scenarios.

[Latex74]

This game just did not click for me somthing missing played it a few times but got boring .played it on game pass its great more people will get to play this well done sony

[Storm23]

Seems odd they wouldn't wait a day and use the Day 1 patch so we can actually know exactly how the game will run when we play it...but I am very excited to play it tomorrow! Glad I waited. PS5 version is so much better than PS4

[thesoftware730]

Question,

Is the Gamepass version getting the Next-Gen Update? or will that be a separate purchase?

[RazzerRedux]

Separate purchase

[thesoftware730]

Thanks! That's so lame.

I played it off gamepass as I said..should have just waited..

I could start over on PS5, the game is that good..hmmm.

[RazzerRedux]

I have it on PC but haven't gotten around to it. I'm going to download it on PS5 to compare and pretend I'm Richard Leadbetter and can spot the differences with my own eyes!

https://media4.giphy.com/me...

[darthv72]

When you do the comparison... be sure to use some crazy hand gestures. Even if it is just to yourself.

[Neonridr]

I bought the standard edition on PC from the Epic store last summer when I had a good coupon that made it cheap. I will still play the PS5 version because I want all the extra bells and whistles though.

[thesoftware730]

I have it on PC as well, Got it on $20 sale months ago for my mainly PC only playing Son,
I run it with a RTX2060 Super, I9 and Nvme SSD, Mayhaps I should do a comparison as well, Me myself have always prefer play games on console.

From what I understand tho, is the PS5 and SX GPU is like akin to 2080 GPU.

[anast]

This game is already a classic?

[lazyboyblue]

Ha I downvoted you yesterday and just tried to downvote you again. Nice on a personal note to see I'm consistent with my disagreement.

[lazyboyblue]

Sorry btw

[anast]

How is it a classic?

[lazyboyblue]

I really love Remedy stuff so it's instant classic for me.

[isarai]

Love options, i'll probably dabble with the raytracing, but with as busy of a screen as this game is i'll end up sticking to 60fps in the end

[QuePasa87]

I was going to get this on pc but thanks ps plus :D

[ajax17]

a "classic" game? it came out in 2019 though...

[XxINFERNUSxX]

Played it on PC didn't like it really not for me, but with my 3070 all settings on the maximum but at 1080p because higher FPS is much better than lower FPS on a higher res screen, it's just a better experience and on top of that I had reshade installed as well, it looks even better with ray tracing on. I was getting FPS in mostly the 100's with very minor dips below. So I don't know what a low setting is for me, not in my PC vocabulary LOL. Oh and whoopie it loads 2-3secs faster yeah that's such a big improvement I need to sit down LMAO. Just imagine when devs really use the PC's nvme drive to it's real potential, then you better sit down lol

[thecodingart]

“Classic game”... 🤔

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Dual Sense is more next gen then anything else...support?

[stubee34]

As suspected,ps5 version Wipes the floor with ps4 pro.Someone on here said there wont be much difference.....LMAO

[Father__Merrin]

Build me a pc for £359 that can run this

[RazzerRedux]

Buy a console that can do this:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[darksky]

classic game? In what way?