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"Cyberpunk 2077" under the UOKiK's magnifying glass

The Office of Competition and Consumer Protection checks how CD Projekt is working on patches to the game and whether the company helps with complaints submitted by dissatisfied customers. The authority does not rule out taking further steps.

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ArchangelMike1222d ago

I think CDPR have already mitigatd lot of this by offering full refunds as well as releasing a number of patches that have fixes some issues in the game. No doubt more patches will follow in the coming weeks and months. The fact that the game is not on the playstation store will also impact them financilly, that's also a massive motivator to get the game fixed as soon as they can.

exputers1222d ago (Edited 1222d ago )

All these statements, lawsuits are originating from one Adam Kiscinski statement that stated the game was running well on current-gen consoles. Had they not lied about something like this, I (THINK) we wouldn't have seen these awful situations for investors.

The news is good for gamers though.

Q: “And then the last question is on the PS4. I think there was some press stuff saying that maybe it wasn’t working quite as well as it could on PS4. Have we seen any gameplay on PS4? Maybe you could give us a bit of an update on how it performs on PS4. Thanks.”

Q: “The game has not been presented on basic, not pro console PS4 and Xbox 1 so far. What is the performance of the game on this machine?”

Adam Kiciński: “Of course, a bit lower than on pros, but surprisingly good, I would say for such a huge world. So, a bit lower, but very good. That’s the answer.”

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Michiel19891221d ago

@mike Except they didnt offer full refunds, Sony and MS did. CDPR only referred them to Sony and MS implying that they talked to them about refunds, which they didnt. Only because MS and Sony allowed it, people got refunds. It's all lies upon lies with them and you want to forgive them for that? When put under pressure they showed their true colors and when they aren't they know just what to say to tickles core gamers balls the right way.

They got way too cocky after Witcher 3 succes. Taking stabs at other publishers how their business practices suck while they actually do the exact same thing, lying to their customers, fans and investors. Thinking people would even remotely accept the state the game is in even on next gen and pc. Im glad they got put in their place and they deserve all the shit coming for them.

RgR1221d ago

Its not lies and lies. Whenever you purchase something from a retailer you don't get refunded by someone else even if it is the owner of the product.

They referred them back to where they made their purchases. Specifically that was only the case with the digital versions purchased from their respective digital storefronts.

There are standard procedures out there to follow. They couldn't just step in and begin taking peoples access away from their consoles and refunding them for their purchase in another platform where they have absolutely no control.

Michiel19891221d ago

@rgr yeah and the game will need to be sealed for 99% of the retailers to even be eligible for a refund, same with Sony and MS. I know Sony has a policy that if you even started the download you cant refund it anymore, or was it after 2-4 hours of play? 90%+ of the players who bought it arent eligible with those criteria.

The fact is that they made the statement about refunds saying: if you want a refund contact Sony and MS and your retailer, knowing full well they wont get one under normal circumstances. Why do you think so many people werent able to refund?

what do you mean not lies upon lies? what about it running surprisingly well on last gen? what about the no overtime statements they made? what about telling investors they arent supporting people refunds while in their refund post they said the exact opposite? What about not showing any last gen footage? what about releasing one of the buggiest AAA game? what about only allowing stock footage for reviews? what about only providing pc copies for reviews?

now tell me again the numbers they sold arent based on lies and deception.

ofc they cant take charge of sony and ms refunds, but then they should have said go to them for refunds following the standard procedure for refunds, the way they said it they implied heavily that people could just go and get a refund no matter how much you played or downloaded it or w/e.

Knightofelemia1222d ago

Well I called EB games to see what the trade in price for this shit storm would cost and they are offering $24 trade in. So either keep it and wait for the patches or dump it on Ebay. I know there will be patches and it will take time due to COVID shit and coming back from the holidays. But they should have pushed the game back for sure it was not ready and I am glad for this extra pressure they are getting along with the lawsuit. And I am glad they are a company that had the balls to admit look hey we f*cked up here here is a refund for our f*ck up you don't see many companies owning up and admitting they f*cked up. If I know now and applied to myself when this game came out I would have waited on this shit storm of a game.

Chevalier1222d ago

If you have an Edge card you could have got it exchanged for full credit once within 3 days fyi.

Knightofelemia1221d ago

I bought the game day one that only counts with in the same week not a month later.

Chevalier1221d ago

Yeah a month later definitely not. But sometimes they have a trade it within 2 weeks and get $50 in credit rather than lose your $79.99. But doubt that will happen soon since trades won't be coming in really

badz1491222d ago

They've brought this upon themselves. still can't believe they sacrificed all those good reputations and gamers' faith in them for this atrocity.

MadLad1222d ago

Atrocity? You're being highly melodramatic.
The game is glitchy as all hell, but this is far from the first time that could be said for a high budget release.
The game cleared 15 million copies sold, was the most consecutively played single player game on Steam, and still averages hundreds of thousands on average.
The game didn't die due to bad press; it still grew.
There's still a lot of gamers buying, and enjoying, the game; bugs and all.
Most of the negativity is whiney console only players not used to getting the short end of the port stick.
After how vindictive they were with the poor Arkham Knight port; a port that was much worse than Cyberpunk to console. Laughing and screaming PC master race for months, I really don't feel for them.

FGHFGHFGH1222d ago (Edited 1222d ago )

not just console players. Go look at the reviews on GOG.com. These are all verified owners (on PC). First ten review titles are: Cyperpunk 2077, FPS not RPG, Decietful Marketing, The AI is more A than I, CDPR's worst game (I am serious), Shot for the moon, landed in Florida, Not A Roleplaying Experience, Broken keyboard bindings, Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle., Be warned, and The same devs as The Witcher 3?

edit: It's actually the 2nd page (30 per page)

That was copy and pasted from the first page of reviews (just the titles) They are mostly 1-3 stars

Jon_Targaryen1221d ago

Dude ypu are aware of all the stuff they cut, right?!?!

milohighclub1221d ago

I'm playing on a 3070 and I can say the game is garbage. Not talking about bugs, been gaming 31yrs, I expect bugs.
The game is trash.

CrimsonIdol1221d ago

People are definitely being melodramatic but as you can see here that includes PC players too. The game's pretty good IMO. Not perfect but far from the pile-on hate parade coming from the various sweaty crevices of the internet would have you believe. I don't know what people who say it's trash were expecting? I was expecting some kind of big open world Deus Ex style of thing and I got it. I've had a blast sneaking around Night City

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jznrpg1216d ago

@Crimsonidol . CDPR hyped the game up stating it had many features that aren’t in the game . Here is a just a few . They promised the world but didn’t deliver on much of it beyond the bugs and crashes
Lifepaths - Sept 2019 - "Cyberpunk 2077’s Lifepaths May Make You Want to Replay the Game Multiple Times". - This implies the lifepaths would've been more than the 20-minute intros and the few inconsequential dialogue options they turned out to be.
NPC Uniqueness and AI - June 2020 - "Hand-making daily routines for 1,000+ NPCs is no small task, especially considering the size of CD Projekt Red's previous titles...Cyberpunk 2077 is set in a futuristic city filled with skyscrapers, each being occupied by unique NPCs." - So unique that they disappear or transform into another generic NPC when players simply move away for a few seconds.
Police system - Aug 2019 - "In Pacifica (one of the poorer areas) you could probably shoot someone, and if nobody would see then nobody would care. If you would do that in the City Center you would probably get some law enforcement. Because those areas are way more patrolled."
Police/ Wanted system - July 2019 - "Cyberpunk 2077 UI coordinator Alvin Liu has revealed that the game will have a "wanted" system that can catch up to players who terrorize NPCs. However, unlike the wanted system in games such as Grand Theft Auto, in Cyberpunk 2077 the police system is blatantly corrupt and takes bribes." - Instead, the police instantly materialise out of thin air, and there's no prolonged wanted system.

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SyntheticForm1222d ago (Edited 1222d ago )

My refund for the game on PS5 came through two days ago. Though the frame rate was fine, I won't be rebuying until this is a game that is not only mechanically repaired, but is leveraging the hardware to its fullest.

I'll play it when it gets the full fat PS5 treatment.

StoneyYoshi1221d ago

Why didn't you just wait until the upgraded version gets released? Money is being spent regardless.

SyntheticForm1221d ago

Because I no longer trust the studio, and I don't think they deserve my money until they finish their work. No other industry I'm aware of gets away with crap like this.

Why should they?

neutralgamer19921222d ago (Edited 1222d ago )

Man that have made so much money I doubt they care. They had like 8 million pre orders. CDPR aren't on Same level as other high end studios simples as that. They launched witcher 3 with a lot of bugs and glitches too. It seems they are the bathesda of gaming only they will fix the games where as bathesda knows community will fix it

BrainSyphoned1221d ago

The mod community is already working faster than CDPR to fix this mess and bring in new features like third person, barbers to change your look, npcs that refresh instead of walk in circles, npcs that don't cower in fear 5 blocks away from where someone got bludgeoned, better car controls and on and on. Only difference i see is that CDPR would have free horse armor.

neutralgamer19921221d ago

nice hopefully cdpr can update the game with a lot of these features

Vx_1221d ago (Edited 1221d ago )

Initially, they made a lot of money, but now they bear higher losses
https://screenrant.com/cd-p...

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Cyberpunk 2077 Director On 95% Positive Steam Rating: "Never Thought I'd See It"

Cyberpunk 2077 has come a long way from being one of the worst games on the planet to being one of the best ones.

DustMan1d 15h ago

I shelved it after a few hours in game at launch, glad I didn't refund it. One of the few games I've actually completed in the last year, and after finishing the campaigns I wanted to just jump back in from the start. They pulled a No Mans Sky and finished one of the best FPS in the last few years.

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Games That Were Bad on Release, But Are Now Great

BLG writes, "Some of the most popular games have had a rough start, with some of them being downright unplayable.

Despite that, developers have managed to turn it around for them and make their game worth playing. Here are some games that had a rough start but were pretty great."

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Terry_B13d ago

Good list..hoped to see Street Fighter 5 there..and it is.

Vits13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Sea of Thieves... I'm not disagreeing that the game has improved in terms of content. But I feel that the most significant change between now and its release is actually the public perception. Nowadays, most people are aware that the game is a multiplayer PvP-focused experience first and foremost, and not "Black Flag made by Rare". Consequently, people dismissing the whole experience because the single-player aspect is lacking or the story is plain are much less common.

darthv7213d ago

Several years ago, i submitted an idea to Rare that would change up the mechanics of battling opponents in the game. whereby if you died in battle, you turned into a skeleton warrior and had to fight your way back to the land of the living. It was an interesting twist on respawning and would allow the player to experience both sides of a battle.

I keep hoping to see something like that get added to the game.

Kaii13d ago

They consider FO 76 & ME Andromeda to be great now 🤭

anast13d ago

Every game in the last 2 decades...

INMATEofARKHAM13d ago

It's sad that this quick retort is more often than not true... The industry's acceptance of release and patch has gone too far.

gunnerforlife12d ago

Days gone! By the end of the game I couldn't drop it down! I went around so many hours killing zombies! It was addictive by the end.

S2Killinit12d ago

That game was just plain good game. It didnt improve, it was just good.

gunnerforlife12d ago

I don't know, I got it abit late, and struggled for a few days, and then all of a sudden it just got good!!

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Source Code For The Witcher 3 & Cyberpunk 2077 Has Allegedly Been Compromised

Source code for CD Projekt's action role-playing games The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 have allegedly been compromised.

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just_looken26d ago

Well they are using unreal engine now thanks to there work culture and horrific job on making cyberpunk so for the future no impact.

But it will be interesting to see what mods will be made

https://rebel-wolves.com/

just_looken25d ago

7 disagrees shows how many look at one dlc that had a rip off fight from ghost in the shell and goes wow what a goat team i love cdpr while ignoring that they only made 2 games that were good witcher 2/3 in 20yrs.

But its a new world we want a criminal that support's legal murder as president/support shoplifting love toxic work environments and have a mass casualty event every other day.

GhostMirror25d ago

I’ll admit I didn’t play it at launch, but Cyberpunk 2077 is a really good game now.

And who the hell knows what you’re even going on about in your second paragraph here.

EazyC25d ago

Wait a min...I swear to god CP2077's source code got leaked before. CDPR needs to stop using "password123" for all their accounts 😅

just_looken25d ago

Na its hundreds ex employees no doubt just getting there revenge.

Profchaos25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

This is the same leak the threat actors have been trying to sell the source code after cd project didn't pay the ransom.

They didn't manage to sell the source code to any company largely because it would be unethical for say EA to buy it so the threat actors failed to find a buyer.

After they failed to make any money they went through with their threat of simply giving it away.