Cyberpunk Maker Vows Defense Against Class Action Suit Claims

CD Projekt SA, the Polish video-game publisher of Cyberpunk 2077, said it will defend itself vigorously after an investor sued the company for allegedly misleading holders of its depository receipts and incurring losses.

[TheKingKratos]

This is getting spicy

[Newmanator]

Hold onto your glitchy hats

[Eonjay]

Investors lost a billion after the launch because of how CD misled on the actual game performance on devices that would make up the largest share of consumption.

What exactly are they going to defend?

[Michiel1989]

@Eon probably gonna nitpick over the wording in their contracts, as lawyers usually do

[thorstein]

What do you want with your popcorn?

[ScootaKuH]

Not Cyberpunk, that's for sure

[neutralgamer1992]

I am against these sort of lawsuits but CDPR did know game wasn't ready and they internally releases it anyway. Why not release it on pc and wait for consoles till 2021? They have tainted their consumer friendly reputation

But many gamers are defending CDPR when these same gamers would hate on other big publishers if they did something similar

[Teflon02]

This, I never understood why it was essentially ready for PC only, why they couldn't just release it first and release last gen when the next gen versions drop. Would have made so much more sense

[Emme]

Because they got pressured from the very same people who now want to sue them. Business logic. The investors always win.Its like ordering someone to put a hole in the bucket and then sue him for not beeing able to deliver enough water.

[Rocketisleague]

We're not sure why they released it in this state, there's a high chance investors pushed for it imo against developer recommendation, that is the natural order

[neutralgamer1992]

To the comments below:

Yes but let's also not forget CDPR said it again and again it will come out when it's ready. Investors pressure I would guess so but I think they gave into multiple factors

Investors pressure
Ending the year with a bang
Generating more money
Gamer pressure

And biggest I still think is the fact they started looking at themselves as invincible. They thought we are CDPR and we are so pro consumers that the backlash won't be that much. I truly feel bad for the developers who worked on this game for 5+ years and than to have their work gets such bad attention

[ArchangelMike]

Sure they'll defend themselves vigourously, but it's still time and money down the drain. Plus there's simply no question that the game wasn't ready for release on last gen consoles. If you agree to offer full refunds, then you've already admitted the game was broken at launch.

I hope this teaches the CDPR execs a very valuable lesson.

[-Foxtrot]

Not just CDPR but other developers aswell, like if Bethesda wants to come out with other buggy games.

So hopefully they are taking their time with Starfield and Elder Scrolls VI

[RgR]

What other games have the kidding capabilities of bethesda games?

What other large open worlds like theirs that allow their amount of interaction are there out in the market and have no bugs?

[Fluttershy77]

@RgR I'd say Skyrim glitchy mess, insanely long loading times, and game breaking bugs at the time were ok because of how ambitious and revolutionary the game was, same with other old Bethesda titles.
Something like Fallout 76 is just unacceptable; is like a mockery to your fanbase

[esherwood]

I was perfectly fine with it. Taking 8 years to build a game isn’t really an option. They’ll probably make there game less ambitious since everyone’s throwing a fit over crap that’s not even an issue

[CaptainHenry916]

Even some of the Fallout games was very buggy

[SullysCigar]

Does seem odd, doesn't it? Do something, apologise for it, then deny doing anything wrong when it's taken to court?

Projections led investors to anticipate 3.5 million more sales of this game before Christmas 2020. The messaging and developmental shortfalls resulted in backlash which reduced sales via refunds suggested by CDPR themselves.

I'm sure there's more to it that we don't know about, but I'd be interested in seeing how they intend to defend against this. If they're successful, I will take notes lol...

[SmokinAces]

I dont think they're trying to deny they did something wrong Sully I think they've acknowledged that I just think they disagree with the lawsuit.

[RgR]

The issue at hand is if the wrong is actually justifiably illegal and proof of wrongdoing.

Many times games come out with bugs and glitches so there can't be any wrongdoing there.
Performance problems? Many games release with those as well....not proof of wrongdoing either.

The release was just indicative of it being released before fully optimized and polished.

So what was the wrongdoing? Releasing it early? How is that unlawful?

[Seraphim]

@ RgR not entirely sure everything they've told investors over the course of say, 2 years. But when they did push back the launch from Spring to Fall of this year they stated the game was done and the additional time was to polish and perfect the game. They have misrepresenting their product knowingly for some time. While I don't necessarily agree with the lawsuit and even after refunds the game has sold incredibly well and will continue to sell well once these issues are patched, a next gen version is available and more next gen consoles are out there.... the fact of the matter is that lying to investors is simply illegal. And I'm pretty sure these investors have ample proof of just that. Had they been upfront and honest with investors they wouldn't be in this position. had they remained a private company they wouldn't have this issue so on and so forth.

[TheProfessional]

It's kind of a joke that Bethesda games always got a free pass for bugs and glitches and the graphics on their games were never even that great, especially on 360/PS3.

I get that the base last gen consoles couldn't run cyberpunk and that is unacceptable but the way people are overreacting about the glitches on the other versions is excessive.

Cyberpunk is still a really good game despite all of the controversy. The world, the story, the graphics and the non politcally correct jokes and ads are all excellent. This game is what the sequel to Deus Ex Human Revolution should have been.

[SyntheticForm]

CD built up a sterling reputation for quality and customer satisfaction in a way (at a speed) that no one had ever really done and then they completely upended that quality, satisfaction, and trust. Most of this was built by one game, The Witcher 3. Sure, you had the other entries, but they were far less ambitious and popular.

With Bethesda it was a little different; we learned to expect and accept large open worlds that were buggy so long as the games were generally good. Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 and Skyrim were all solid, but the latter two lacked the polish of the former.

So, two different situations for these devs that both ended quite the same, with trust and satisfaction being squandered in lieu of a fast buck.

I really hope we get a return to quality and that companies have learned from the disgrace of Bioware, Bethesda, and now sadly, CDPR.

[Stanjara]

Yes and No.
Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout had barley been in digital age on consoles, and those digital refund policies were strict. Besides that, those games were playable... even thou those game ran poorly on PS3 due to split ram...Sony would do shit.

We needed this. We needed 8 mill preorders to go sour. We also needed stupid move of giving refunds from CDPR on Sonys platform where Sony ended up with millions of requests and outcry.

So Sony refunded everything and removed a game from store.

Never in History Sony done that other than Fallout 76...I think Sony gave some refunds but quickly dropped them in respond to incoming patches.

It's a precedent to behold.
Now publishers will think twice of releasing unfinished product because it could reflect in loosing company's stock value, which is much harder than losing sales.
And Sony will have some quality control on their store end.

[yeahokwhatever]

HAHA CDPR always launches buggy messes. Where you been?

[RgR]

Im sorry. The quality was clear and actually more in depth in witcher 1 and 2.

Witcher 3 just got all the lousy casuals on board and thought wow...this is amazing. Some of us were like...the graphics don't look as good as the 2nd and what's with all these fluf aide quests....sure they were better then most other open worlds but they're still fetchy quests.

Their quality was clearly up there with witcher 1 and then 2. But all 3 of them had bugs and glitches....especially on consoles...performance issues were there. Not sure what quality you were talking about

[RgR]

It's not just cyberpunk. In court you can't say stuff like it was buggy and therefore you can get sued.

It has to be more specific and be able to be applied in other instances. So in this case. If the issue was the bugs then literally any game out there is susceptible to being sued.

If the issue is performance dropping below 20fps then games from the past and games out right now could potentially be sued any moment fps drops below 20. Not to mention performance is always linked with hardware. On pc if you try playing a game with a super low end card you'll get low fps...buts that's not the problem with the game but with the console.

So it really won't hold up to scrutiny.

Are they sued over their projections for sales? Well they're called projections for a reason.

[gamer7804]

i don't know anything about the inner workings and promises with investors, thats really separate like you are saying from just a game being buggy. We really won't have any idea until the court proceedings become public.

[RememberThe357]

You really are intent on only seeing his one way. Why are you even bothering to comment at this point? This is a civil case, there is no jurisdiction bringing charges against CDPR yet. It a civil case there is not standard of reasonable doubt. All investors have to do in show they were mislead and that lead to damages and CDPR is on the hook for their losses. CDPR made numerous public statements about the state of the game that almost all proved to be false, and everything we've seen from the investors side says the same thing. If you're trying to undercut a court case with whataboutisms you're not really thinking your comments through, because thinking a judge will nod along to obvious logical fallacies is hilarious.

This will no doubt get assigned to an arbiter. No one is going to wants to preside over rich people bickering when nothing of substance is at stake.

[yeahokwhatever]

they're suing because the investors potentially lost money when Sony pulled the game, because CDPR had told the investors and the public at large that the game was ready for launch, which according to their own admission, it was not.

[Rude-ro]

They knew the state of the game that is on the largest install base of gaming.
They lied and they sold it while letting fluff reviews out first.

Everything else does not matter. Not time, not which hardware, nothing.

They will lose the cases and putting up a defense will MAYBE keep their losses in check. That is all.

[CorndogBurglar]

But that isn't true. PS4 can run Cyberpunk. Its obviously not running at the same quality as PS5 or even PS4 Pro. The graphics and framerates suffer. But I'm playing it on PS4 and its not "unplayable" like people claim. Is it glitchy? Yes. But its glitchy on everything.

The problem is on PS4 its just no where near what we were told the game would be, graphically.

[JackBNimble]

So why would Sony pull it from their store if the game isn't broken?

[exputers]

Bethesda never lied, the only difference here buddy.

[SullysCigar]

"16 times the detail", "it just works", "high quality SE canvass bag" lol

Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not defending what CDPR did or their chances in this lawsuit, but Bethesda lied to consumers - many times. Maybe not investors, though, or they'd have found themselves in the same boat as CDPR.

[OneLove]

Skyrim graphics were great for its time and still passable now......the glitches....well.....ya.

[waverider]

Gonna lose millions. Thats for sure. Try to explain a game launched after 8 years that got so many problems and isnt free....

[RgR]

Runs fine on the target platform and more powerful consoles.

Some bugs but that can happen.

They can show the game running on the preferred hardware and it will look absolutely gorgeous in court.

[Fluttershy77]

Apparently the game is a broken mess on PC too, but in any case the target platform was the platforms they decided to release the game for... They targeted the PS4/Xbox One audience and maybe they shouldn't have.

[Stanjara]

Target was Ps4 and Xbox one aaaaand PC.
8 mill preorders, probably 5 mill on PS4.
That preferred hardware only came recently in a 3080...an that's what? 100k people? Probably less.
Oh and a PS5 and XBX which run last gen port.

[ArchangelMike]

@RgR

Please explain what you mean by, "runs fine on the target platform."

Are you suggesting that PS4 and X1 were not the "target platform?" Then who was it that released Cyberpunk2077 on PS4 and X1? Oh wait... it was CDPR.

Now you understand why they are getting sued by investors. CDPR themselves said the game was targeting PS4 and X1. CDPR told investord that PS4 and X1 were target platforms, and that the game runs fine on those "target platforms." They straight up lied about that, and that's why they're getting sued. CDPR lied to get investment money. However, becasue of the true state of the game on those "target platforms" - investors lost a ton of money when the game released. Investors now want their money back. It's understandable.

The truth was that Cyberpunk 2077 runs like dog turd on PS4 and X1 - if CDPR had been honest and told the investors the truth from the start, heck if CDPR had told gamers from the start that the PS4 and X1 versions were not ready for release - they would not have had to issue refunds, and investors would not now be asking for their investment money back either.

This is why CDPR should have simply released the game on PC and next gen consoles, and then maybe worked on the last gen versions when it was ready. No way you cut it - they mismanaged the project, and misled investors. It's only right that if customers can get refunds on the game, then why can't the investors can get their money back as well.

[waverider]

Really. I really cant understand how any gamer can say that. Try to defend them... They can show that. But lawyers just need to go to you tube and get hundreds of video showing how crap and buggy it really runs. A studio that doenst let review come out before the game is on the stores and doesnt let use capture video but what they sent.... Sorry, i hope the are force to pay hundreds of millions. This got to stop.

[Seafort]

I've played and finished the game on PC. No crashes, a couple of bugs and some graphical glitches. No worse than any Bethesda game that launches.

It's a great game with really memorable characters throughout. It will get better over time and they will release great expansions like they did with Witcher 3. I'm looking forward to the game's future expansions and free content.

It should not have released on the previous consoles. They were 7 year old hardware and were underpowered as it was when they released.

CDPR should have launched on PC first then the new consoles in 2021. They are PC developers after all.

[AuraAbjure]

That's buyer discrimination then. "Buy this product and it will work but buy that product and tough luck. By the way, we won't warn you of the severe defects with the other product in advance- on the contrary we will lead you to believe its high quality. Both products cost the same too."

[yeahokwhatever]

"some bugs" doesnt even get close to how busted this product is. I freaking love this game, its incredibly fun, im already on my second play through and I never finish anything.. but the game is very, very buggy. I'm 100% certain this title did not pass QA, at all. Showstopping bugs were simply waved because of time constraints and the money dropped into advertising that you dont get to spend twice.

[yeahokwhatever]

JustTheFax
"not one crash" HAHA liar. yes, im going to call you a liar with zero evidence. I'm on my second playthrough and this glorious masterpiece crashes every couple of hours. my friends on various other platforms all report similar experiences. great game, but you dont gotta lie to kick it.

[Reefskye]

@Stanjara 8mil pre orders 51% was pc alone 49% on every other platform, cdpr stated this a week or so ago, i run it on a 2060+9700k at 75fps 1440p patch 1.04 caused me a ton of crashes but it worked fine after a reinstall. Had like 5 bugs which have been fixed. I still get bugs on skyrim to this day quest breaking ones.
CDPR are pc develops pc is always there target platform.

[StoneyYoshi]

The game wasn't in development for 8 years. The game wasn't even in full development until the end of 2015 early 2016 after they released TW3: Hearts of Stone DLC which came out October 2015. 4-5 years is still no excuse but acting like its been in full development for 8 years is quite exaggerated.

[IamFrasierCrane]

That’s ridiculous and only makes them look worse.

So not only did they pointlessly tease a game they weren’t working on for years, they hid how underdeveloped and lazily slopped together the game was in an attempt to take customers money and maybe fix the game later. Nice.

[MetroidFREAK21]

I hope this sets an example of what not to do with your game launches (release them half-assed)

[Artemidorus]

Of course they will do that, but they have alot to answer for

[RgR]

Not any more than others devs. It has always being their money on the line. It's not like they can gurantee a profit. They pay their devs and pay for the advertising and marketing.

Who do they have to answer to and for what do they have to answer exactly?

Consumers don't own them and consumers are free to not buy their product.

They're already working on fixing it so not sure what else the expectation is here.

[Artemidorus]

When you provide an investment you need to provide a clear message to what.

[RgR]

What a world we live in.

Consumers feeling entitled to sue over a game that didn't meet their expectations.

Sure hope it backfires on these investors.

I don't care what crappy state a game can come out in certain platforms. If I make an uninformed decision I'm the only one to blame. Nobody was under duress to invest or to buy their product.

Reviews on pc even mentioned some performance problems and tons of bugs. Console players jumped in believing everything would be fine? And what do they see: performance problems and bugs.

Oh what a surprise!

[Nyxus]

Reviewers weren't allowed to review the console version, and all they showed was the PC version. They made sure console players couldn't make an informed decision, that's exactly the problem.

[RgR]

Then you wait. And even on the pc versiin there were a lot of bug reports.

As well as clear issues with optimization...but somehow both of those things went over peoples heads when thinking if it will have issues on the base consoles.

[SyntheticForm]

"Consumers feeling entitled to sue over a game that didn't meet their expectations."

You can't be this ignorant of the situation. You just can't be.

[RgR]

You're right I'm not.

I just don't think peoples false sense of justice should prevail.

Not seeing that the issues on pc would carry to the base consoles and likely be worse is the actual ignorant thing.

[Nd1vhu]

Except it's the investors suing not consumers so...

[RgR]

An investor can't also be a consumer?

And ya I'm well aware

[sactownlawyer916]

The devs literally lied to console players saying “it runs fine” on consoles before release. If the would have said the game does not run well on last gen buy at your own risk we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Do some research next time.

[DragonWarrior19]

"If I make an uninformed decision I'm the only one to blame."

Except CDPR already admitted that they lied about how the performance was on consoles. It was false marketing. They admitted to purposely withholding review copies for consoles because they KNEW the state the of the game. People who bought the game couldn't make an informed decision because they were blocked from knowing the facts and only knew what CDPR was lying about. But way to defend shitty, lazy, and greedy developers who KNEW that after eight years they couldn't produce anything worth while. Oh and you mention the reviewers only talking about PC, the ONLY version they were given. You neglect to mention that the reviewers also had extremely unfair rules that censored what they could say. They couldn't talk about the bugs (only that they were minor), they could NOT use any footage of the game that they captured themselves, and they were NOT given console copies to review. Any reviewer that blindly gave it a 10 needs to be examined on the legitimacy of their review because the game on PC or Console so nowhere near a 9 or 10. It maybe barely a 6 or 7 on PC but it still runs like crap, even lower on console.

[Fluttershy77]

Defense: "We had to sell it in that state cause we wanted to make money"

[Grayson076]

What people are failing to realize is that suits like these are not made to win, they're made to settle. The case isn't being made for the state of the game at launch for consumers, but investors being misled. All in all, with everything CDPR said in their statements and investor calls, specifically in the language they used, there's not enough out there that would make them lose this case. Their bases are probably covered enough for that. But nobody expects them to outright lose. The firm that filed this is probably banking on the other two firms that discussed suits actually filing them, thus giving CDPR three suits to deal with at the same time (and from different countries too). That's a lot for CDPR to handle, and even if they could argue a win out of one case, three at once is a lot of money. So they'll probably do exactly what this firm wants: settle. You have to understand, this isn't about "justice", it's about money lol doesn't mean CDPR didn't do wrong, but this case isn't in the realm most gamers are used to.

My point is, for gamers, this still comes down to what it's always come down to. Vote with your wallet. If you like CDPR and want to support them, buy the game. If you dislike them, don't buy it, and encourage others to do the same. This lawsuit has nothing to do with us whatsoever.

[Knightofelemia]

I wonder how long this will drag out for

[sourOG]

Not long. The case will get thrown out. You can’t invest in something and then sue when the product doesn’t meet made up projections as misleading lol.

That’s the game of investing, you can invest in something successful and get a crazy return on your investment. Or you can invest in something stupid and lose your ass. What you can’t do is sue when you lose your ass lol. It’s not a win/win scenario. It’s a high risk/high reward scenario.

[Dutchman141]

You've never been at a shareholders meeting have you?
If you had then your reply wouldn't have been so ignorant or ill informed.

[yeahokwhatever]

thats not how it works, like, at all.

[sourOG]

Blah blah how am I wrong?

[Father__Merrin]

CDPR have tainted thier reputation. Not even Ea or Ubisoft would do this. I won't be supporting this game there's many other titles out there that are superior

[sourOG]

Wouldn’t it be nice if you could invest in a product and then sue the company when said product doesn’t hit projections? Everyone would do it lmao. Dumb case that will get thrown out immediately.

[ArchangelMike]

Not true. You've completely missed the point here with your over simplification.

Simply put, if I want investment money from you, I'm not allowed to lie to you, or mislead you about the details, and the state of the product for which I want your investment money. This is BEFORE the product come to market.

When the product then comes to market and it turns out that I have indeed mislead you, and the product is not what I advertised; under investment law - you have full rights to ask for your investment money back.

It's the same as investing in company that's promised to make a top of the line 4K tv, but when it comes to market you find a CRT tv in the box. And then the company try to tell you that "at least the tv works." Tell me - would you not return it and ask for you money back?

[sourOG]

If you invested in my idea for a game before the product was even made because of my reputation and that product doesn’t do as well as it was projected, you don’t have a right to ask for your money back. I didn’t lie about the game or idea, it just didn’t do as well as projected.

Overselling your idea for investment isn’t “misleading”, that’s literally every project ever. It’s not the same as saying you’re going to make a great 4K tv and then selling a different tv. They invested in cyberpunk, cyberpunk was sold.

[ArchangelMike]

Again you're being disingenuous. The investors are not sueing just because the game didn't sell as expected.

The game didn't sell as expected BECAUSE CDPR mislead invstors and consumers about the state of the game on last gen consoles. If CDPR had told investors and consumers the true state of the game on PS4 and X1 they would have probably had less investment.

They deliberately witheld console reviews, and told investors that the game runs fine on last gen consoles. All that was misleading and flat out lying. The game was so bad that Sony had to take it down, and they had to offer total refunds.

Tell me please - what reason did CDPR have for witholding the truth about the state of the game on consoles? Why didn't they just tell everyone the truth before releasing it - that it was a barely functioning bug riddled mess on consoles?

It's not just about the projections and sales. The game failed to hit sales projections as a direct result of CDPR mishandling the project, misleading investors and falsely advertising the game on consoles as functioning - when it clearly wasn't.

Lying to investors IS illegal, and CDPR (and any other company for that matter) should be called out for such shenanigans.

[sourOG]

Why are you assuming the investors invested late in the game after they knew the state of the game?is that usually when you get investment? In the beta stage? It’s not like they sold cyberpunk to investors and released lego Batman. The “lying” angle is disingenuous.

Pretending that consumers are investors is also pretty dumb. I’m not defending the broken nature of cyberpunk or the shitty tactics used. I’m simply saying this lawsuit is dumb and won’t go anywhere.

[ArchangelMike]

I never once implied that consumers are the investors, or that the consumers are the ones who are suing. Where you pulling that from??? Neither am I assuming anything, I'm going by the details of the law suit itself. The filing states that the period in question is between January 16th, 2020 and December 17th, 2020. That's pretty late in the day if you ask me. But it means that all through 2020 CDPR we're marketing for investment money - and they got alot of it. Why do you think their stock fell by 40% when Cyberpunk was released?

The basis of the suit is alledging that CDPR made fasle and/or misleading statements, about its business, operations, and prospects, which were materially false and misleading and/or lacked a reasonable basis at all relevant times. When the true details entered the market, the lawsuit claims that investors suffered damages.

Here's a link to the suit, so you can get yourself informed, instead of makeing asumpions. https://wccftech.com/cd-pro...

However you want to spin it, the investors definately think that they were lied to... or rather, let me say.. they were 'misled'. How did the investors say it? Oh yeah - CDPR made "materially fasle and misleading" statements.

I'm not a lawter, but I think what the investors are getting at is that CDPR lied to them about the true state of Cyberpunk on last gen consoles. They have a case, and a good one.

[sourOG]

You were talking about how they lied to consumers like that makes any difference in this scenario.

No it’s not, it’s a shit case. “The investors feel they were lied to”. Okay lol. It doesn’t mean they will win in court. Let’s say you are a popular developer and you have a highly anticipated game coming out. You keep delaying it but I buy stock in your company anyways because I believe in your work. The game you release is utter shit and broken. Your stock tanks. You think I have a right to sue you because your stock tanked? Well sure you can sue for anything but it doesn’t mean I will win. Did you make you stock tank on purpose just to screw me out of money? No. Was it your intention to release a broken game a year before launch? If not then you didn’t lie. Sometimes investments don’t pan out. Pretending you can sue anytime your investment goes south is wildly dumb. I can’t even wrap my brain around it.

[ArchangelMike]

You're conveniently omitting the part where CDPR said to investors "The game works fine on last gen consoles"

The game DIDN'T work fine on last gen consoles.

What do you call that?

[sourOG]

Maybe it did. Maybe some late addition completely ruined the game. We don’t know. What we do know is that not informing investors on development issues is not “lying or misleading”. If that were the case then everyone in the stock market would be filthy rich. Invest in some small startup shit company. If they hit big then cool, if not then sue and get your money back. Win/win.

[OG_TK_Cole]

Some people might not like this, but CD PROjekt Red being hit with a Class Action Law Suit is great for the Gaming Industry. It will send a message to Publishers and Developers to stop Misleading and Lying to Gamers (Consumers)

[WelkinCole]

As oppose to what? lol!

[Melankolis]

The stock price will drop then getting bought by...
a. EA
b. Ubisoft
c. Zenimax
d. SquareEnix
e. You name it...

[sourOG]

“You name it”

All of us. I would bet on CDPR. If the stock tanks then it’s a good time to buy. They will come back and people get over shit ridiculously quick. The worst things like Christmas explosions. Nobody cares, that’s just life now lol. Our adaptation is our super power.

[RCslayer]

The "punk" hit the fan on this one.

[exputers]

god, I love bloomberg

[Tedakin]

Angry Joe Show said that new 1.06 patch actually somehow made the game worse on PS4. Crashing every 15 minutes.

[yeahokwhatever]

faaar crashier on PS5 after 1.06. PC is still the same amount of less crashy.

[StoneColdCrazy]

Do we surprise?

[StoneColdCrazy]

Fuck them they deserve all bad comments for what they did.

[FiLTHY ESKiMO]

I love the crap out of Cyperunk.. and have had no major issues. Playing on Xbox One X.

[VTKC]

They should not be getting away with this but at the same time-if the case goes through, then nobody is going to get any patches as there won't be any money left to fund any more work on this game, they will just cut their losses and abandon it. After all this is strictly business, they exist to make money. What if the developers had enough of this mess which were not of their fault and not in their control and leave if they haven't done so already.

[Emme]

I guess its gonna be hard to prove CD Project Red intended to betray investors, in fact they shipped a game that has glitches and bugs to satisfy the investors for this quarter and the christmas business. At the beginning of the chain is not the producer, at the beginning of the chain are the suits and investors who push hard, and Joe Average 3D artist does the crunch for them. Now Joe Average gets the flak from gamers AND investors.

[OneLove]

Lol I hope elder scrolls 6 pays close attention to this launch because I'm pre ordering that hands down🤣