Cyberpunk 2077 is the Biggest Failure of the Generation

Jacob S. from Link Cable Gaming writes: "CD Projekt Red is a well-beloved developer that has continuously provided timeless experiences with their work on their video game adaptation of The Witcher novels to which have become synonymous with video game enthusiasts around the globe. From their humble beginnings all the way back with their first instalment in 2007, CD Projekt Red has continuously expanded their work and has received widespread acclaim for all of their titles by both critics and fans alike which set even greater expectations with their next project outside of The Witcher franchise. After seven years of giving fans a glimpse of what was to come, CD Projekt Red was finally ready to release the much-anticipated futuristic RPG that is Cyberpunk 2077 to the world, but unlike anything that the company has produced before, this title fails to live up to the expectations and promises that were made, so much so that the game is now viewed as one of the biggest failures of the last generation."

[Thunder_G0d_Bane]

No. Stop the hyperbole.

Nothing beats the failure of mass effect andromeda and Anthem.

I got cyberpunk on pc and the game is super immersive feels like a living breathing world of its own which is something special.

[CaptainHenry916]

Yea on PC I agree. I'm having a blast playing it. The OG consoles version are a joke from what I've been hearing.

[anast]

I'm having fun with the game on a base PS4 slim. The disk hasn't left since release.

[RgR]

Even if a version of the game on weak consoles doesn't perform well it doesn't mean the game is crap. Just means those versions are crap.

[specialguest]

Is the PC version worth buying now? How buggy is it now with 1.06 ptach? What are some of the remaining bugs?

[_Decadent_Descent]

That's because the consoles are a joke.

[gamer7804]

To each his own , yah andromeda had its issues and fell short. But I still really enjoyed it. But to me and many others tlou2 was the generations biggest disappointment, not because it wasn’t made well, but be cause it was technically fine but lacked a compelling narrative and characters that lived up to the previous.

[RgR]

Oh how I'll miss the interesting world of the last of us.

[potatoseal]

The narrative was one of the best parts of TLOU2.

So to me and millions of other people, the game is a Masterpiece

[lucian229]

At least the narrative is opinion based. Cyber punk and Andromeda were factually bad due to technical reasons and due to false promises.

[potatoseal]

@Lakefool

Yeah, you're right. That's why it's got a 93 metacritic because it's just sooo bad. That's why it's won all these awards. That's why it WON A LOT OF FAN VOTED AWARDS too. Metacritic user scores were BOMBED out of existance and relevance. OF course people aren't talking about the game, it's old now. But it will be remembered forever. Just like the first game.

[Broncob]

Agreed LOU2's narrative went too far, so depressing that it makes it un-replayable imo, I know a lot love it and I can see why, I know a lot don't and I can also see why. Cyberpunk on PS5 is amazing and will only get better (hopefully across all platforms) and to say it's the Biggest Failure of the Generation is crazy.

[SullysCigar]

Predictable comment. Some never let an article pass without squeezing in a dig at TLOU2. Keep fighting for the greens I guess... lol

And @'Lakebadook', why stink the place up with your new spam account? You were banned for a reason..

[RauLeCreuset]

@gamer7894

Says the person who defended Crackdown 3 when it was mentioned elsewhere in this comment section. The game that was supposed to deliver on Xbox's cloud hype and is perhaps more responsible than any other game that gen for cementing Xbox's reputation for disappointing exclusives output.

@Lake

"But no matter how much u defenders spin it its still considered to br a poor sequel by most and ppl already forgot about it. "

Considered a poor sequel by most??? It set sales records and has one of the highest PSN story completion trophy percentages:

TLOU1: 39.8%
TLOU2: 60.1%

Spin that.

[gamer7804]

@/raulecreuset. Sort of, I didn’t defend crackdown. I said I had a lot of fun with it. I also didn’t suggest it should be in the running for goty either. My point was don’t be ashamed of what you like no matter how many user reviews disagree with you. If you and some others even after completing tlou2 liked it cool but it’s clear most people after completing it did not.

[RauLeCreuset]

"If you and some others even after completing tlou2 liked it cool but it’s clear most people after completing it did not."

Clear based on what??? Your feelings? Where are you pulling this from? What metrics are you relying on to back that assertion? I guarantee it pales in comparison to the facts of the games record sales, astounding completion percentage, and GOTY awards and nominations. Show your work.

"I know people hated on it. But I really liked it, sunk a ton of hours into crackdown 3"

Said in response to someone declaring Crackdown 3 the biggest failure this gen (as you laughably tried to declare TLOU2). You defended it.

[gamer7804]

@ raulecreuset

Just going off all the podcasts I listened to but mainly all the user reviews on sites. Just look at metacritic it’s in the 50s.

It’s fine if you personally disagree , it’s okay to be in the minority

[RauLeCreuset]

"it’s okay to be in the minority"

You don't act like it. Newsflash: You're in the minority! That's seriously all you've got? The podcasts you listened to and select user reviews on sites like Metacritic?

1) I know "review bombing" isn't a foreign concept to you. Metacritic doesn't have any controls when it comes to ensuring only actual users can manipulate the "user" score. As demonstrated by the other person arguing on your side in this thread who was called out for being a spam account and subsequently banned, there are those who aren't above using deception to forward a false narrative about the game being negatively received.

2) You're cherry-picking. The game has won fan voted GOTY awards, including IGN's People's Choice GOTY. Then there are the fan voted GOTY awards it may not have won but came close in, like the Game Award's Player's Voice Award. (Sorry, but being voted the #2 GOTY at one awards show is not a point in favor of your argument despite how some tried to spin it as such.) You neglected to mention the high user scores on sites like Amazon and Best Buy. Why is that?

3) Make the numbers work. I told you before to show your work. Set aside the above points for a moment. Set aside the fact that the game has a 5.7 Metacritic user score even with the review bombing. Set aside the fact that, to the article's point, Cyberpunk actually has a lower Metacritic user score on the same platform (if that's the only measure you have besides "podcasts" for determining the biggest failure of the gen).

To this date there are 149,749 Metacritic user ratings for TLOU2. Set aside all that other stuff and assume each came from someone who purchased the game and scored it after playing it and that no copies of the game have been played by more than one person. The game sold over 4 million its first weekend. Even if I did you the favor of ignoring everything I said to ignore, the number of Metacritic user reviews is less than 3.8% of people who bought the game just in the first weekend.

How do you go from less than 3.8% (people who left positive scores included among that number) to claiming to be in the majority? The podcasts you've listened to don't bridge that chasm, fam. Make it work because right now you aren't making sense.

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

Thing is so many people fantasized about what TLOU2 would be about, what's up with Ellie and Joel, is that hanging girl in the past and in fact Ellie's mom, etc... It did its own thing and I think created a beautiful sequel. If you like or not is based on whether you can accept the choices the creatives took may have gone against the idea of what you had of it. Sure it was messy on its construct, but only because it played the game of making you feel something at first and then giving you an angle explaining why you first impression wasn't totally right, this over and over again. A chronological story wouldn't have accomplished that, at least to the same degree. It surely was experimental to some extent.

[outsider1624]

Lol..i expected a comment about tlou2 from you.
Lol..it seems you find it hard to move on can you. To you and the vocal others you just can't seem to let it go.
Game got goty. Won 18 out of 19 readers choice. Annoying isn't it that people still seem to vote it.

Oh and by the way... you're the minority..(a pretty loud one at that)

[RauLeCreuset]

P.S. There are more positive Metacritic user reviews for TLOU2 than there are negative and mixed reviews combined. So even if we only used that metric, you'd still be wrong.

[gamer7804]

@/raulecreuset

No not select user reviews, ALL of the user reviews. Not just igns readers or kotaku but ALL users. Sure some review without playing it but many of those read the entire plot atleast. It’s poorly written, this is what happens when a game is agenda driven. Metacritic is the standard it cannot be set aside or you might as well disregard all user and critic reviews. Which is fine then Convo over

Again it’s totally fine if you like it but according to stats you are in the minority of users but you are in the majority of critic opinions if those matter to you cool.

[RauLeCreuset]

@gamer7804

"Again it’s totally fine if you like it but according to stats you are in the minority of users but you are in the majority of critic opinions if those matter to you cool."

What stats? You are just saying sh** without backing it up. I've been asking you to show your work. Make the math work. You just want to make proclamations without backing them up.

You lose even when I play your game by your rules. TLOU2 Metacritic user reviews:

Positive: 77,142
Mixed: 7,721
Negative: 64,858
Mixed + Negative: 72,579
https://www.metacritic.com/...

Do we actually need to go to the critic scores, the only scores on Metacritic that can claim to being any sort of standard, or are you good? You are very uninformed or trolling. Perhaps you need to get better acquainted with how Metacritic works and what the score you see represents because the very site you're desperately clinging to proves what you said is false. You're not even in the majority on Metacritic.

[RauLeCreuset]

Adding on to my last comment:

In case you were wondering, here's what it looks like for Crackdown 3:

Positive: 338
Mixed: 113
Negative: 561

Metacritic has more negative user reviews combined than positive and mixed for Crackdown 3. The opposite of the case for TLOU2.

[gamer7804]

@/raulecreuset

The game overall has a poor rating once you average all the reviews is what I mean. Anything below an 80 falls to average mixed or poor. If you consider 75 good then sure but overall the game clearly did not perform well for users as triple A exclusive that had the clout of the first game behind it.

[RauLeCreuset]

Stop trying to backtrack. It's clear what you meant to say. You said it multiple times.

"If you and some others even after completing tlou2 liked it cool but it’s clear most people after completing it did not."

"It’s fine if you personally disagree , it’s okay to be in the minority."

"Again it’s totally fine if you like it but according to stats you are in the minority of users but you are in the majority of critic opinions if those matter to you cool."

The Metacritic user review argument was a weak hand to begin with, and I let you overplay it.

[gamer7804]

You were the one trying to get into the breakdown to say that to people liked the game when clearly atleast half did not, by however you grade it, it’s a mixed bag at best If it’s 79 or below that’s problematic for an AAA game that gets to ride on the coattails of a much better game.

[RauLeCreuset]

"You were the one trying to get into the breakdown to say that to people liked the game when clearly atleast half did not, by however you grade it, it’s a mixed bag at best If it’s 79 or below that’s problematic for an AAA game that gets to ride on the coattails of a much better game."

1) Stop deflecting and have the decency to admit you were wrong. That was you I quoted 3 times from 3 separate posts in this thread making false claims about being in the majority after you responded to me slapping you with the numbers by lying about how you really meant "the game overall has a poor rating once you average all the reviews."

2) I'm the one who brought up more relevant metrics that all point to the game having a great reception and asked what metrics you were relying on to back your assertion. You're the one who responded with that "all the podcasts I listened to" and "metacritic" weak sauce.

3) I'm the one who humored you by making multiple concessions about the validity of Metacritic user scores for sake of argument. You're the one whose lack of a basic understanding of stats and the math behind generating that user score allowed you to walk into a trap I let you unwittingly set for yourself.

4) You're the one still failing at the math. There is no "clearly atleast half did not" about it. Clearly the metric you shamelessly tried to resort to, knowing about the review bombing, disproves your claim. Clearly Metacritic has more positive user reviews of TLOU2 than negative and mixed reviews combined.

5) You're the one who hilariously argued that Metacritic user scores are "the standard." The least you could do is defer to your self proclaimed standard's definition of a good score. 75 and up.

https://www.metacritic.com/...

6) That last one was solely about calling out your poor form, as none of Metacritic's positive TLOU2 user reviews dip below 80.

7) I would ask you to reflect on the implications of your "standard" implementing a 36 hour waiting period for user reviews of games following TLOU2's review bombing, just as I'd ask you to reflect on the implications of TLOU2, a game with more positive user scores than negative and mixed combined, having a lower Metacritic user score than Crackdown 3, a game with more negative user scores than positive and mixed combined. But that's too next level for a debate in which you're still trying to argue that a number that is more than half is only half if not less.

[gamer7804]

I was never talking about math. I was talking about the general scale on when things start to get mixed. If you think that 75 is a good score for this caliber of game that’s on you. This game scored much lower than it should have and you know it. Way more people thought this was average to poor than thought it was good to great especially story wise if you really want to read every user review the common thread is an agenda driven awful story.

[RauLeCreuset]

"I was never talking about math."

"Again it’s totally fine if you like it but according to stats you are in the minority of users but you are in the majority of critic opinions if those matter to you cool."

Couldn't help but point that out, but I assume you're talking about the times I pointed out your failure to understand the math leading you to draw some erroneous conclusions?

"I was talking about the general scale on when things start to get mixed."

What? I know this is spin, but does that even make sense to you?

"If you think that 75 is a good score for this caliber of game that’s on you."

It's what the site YOU insisted "is the standard" that "cannot be set aside" thinks is a good score for games. That's the site you cited as the basis for your opinion along with "all the podcasts I listened to." I indulged you by playing your game. You should at least abide by your own rules. Don't insist Metacritic is the standard when you want to ignore all the problems with their user scores to suit your argument but not accept what they define as a good score.

"If you think that 75 is a good score for this caliber of game that’s on you."

This isn't a mistake. Here's part 2. None of the user reviews for TLOU2 scored lower than 80 despite whatever impression you may be getting by my insistence you not be a hypocrite when it comes to recognizing what is a good score. That means that ALL of Metacritic's positive user reviews of TLOU2, which constitute the majority (i.e. MORE than half) of their user reviews for the game, still meeting your definition of good, as not a single solitary one of those positive reviews is "anything below an 80."

"This game scored much lower than it should have and you know it."

Repeatedly insisting you're right doesn't make you so. Part of adulting involves sometimes having to support your arguments with evidence.

"Way more people thought this was average to poor than thought it was good to great especially story wise..."

There you go again. Now we're back to math and my above point about supporting your argument with evidence. This isn't complicated. It's basic arithmetic. The only evidence you cite for that claim disproves your argument. 77,202 good user scores is more than 64,894 bad user scores. 77,202 good user scores is more than 7,733 mixed user scores. 77,202 good user scores is more than 72,627 combined mixed and bad user scores. At this point I can't tell whether it's a failure to understand basic math or English that is responsible for these repeated and unsubstantiated claims that more people thought this was average to poor than thought it was good or better.

"...if you really want to read every user review the common thread is an agenda driven awful story."

I'm seeing a common thread and an agenda, but not the one you're implying. This game has you so triggered that you readily embarrass yourself feigning ignorance of basic English and the simplest math concepts to avoid facts penetrating the bubble of the alternate reality you've wrapped yourself in where being in the minority somehow equates to being "way more" than the majority.

[gamer7804]

The main stats: critic vs overall user score not the breakdown. Sure the good vs mixed/poor is about dead even in the breakdown. But a 5.7 clearly shows that nearly half of the users say they didn’t like it. A game with tlou1 pushing the majority of its sales should have been a sure fire success which it wasn’t. I will concede that in the breakdown it’s almost dead even ever so slightly toward the green but a game with tlou1 pushing the majority of the sales it should have done ridiculously good which it fell so tragically short that not even the first game could keep it afloat.

[RauLeCreuset]

We're slowly but surely getting somewhere.

You finally concede that there are more positive Metacritic user reviews than negative. You would also concede that it was you who named Metacritic user reviews when asked to provide the basis for your claims and you who said, "Metacritic is the standard it cannot be set aside or you might as well disregard all user and critic reviews"? The Metacritic user reviews, which are composed of more good reviews than mixed and bad combined, are the metric you cited as basis for your claims that "it’s clear most people" did not like the game "after completing it"? You concede that as well? The same Metacritic that doesn't verify if someone posting a user review has purchased the game, let alone played and beat it?

"I will concede that in the breakdown it’s almost dead even ever so slightly toward the green..."

It's not almost dead even. There are 6.3% more good scores than mixed and bad combined. There are 97% more good scores than mixed scores and 19% more good scores than bad scores. That's not "almost dead even." What it is, is embarrassing for something that's supposed to be your evidence for the outlandish claims you've made on this page. How can you call something the failure of the generation when you're forced to cede ground on your own handpicked evidence? When you're having to concede that the data you cherrypicked as the be-all end-all actually shows more people scored the game 80 and up than all the other user reviews combined?

"The main stats: critic vs overall user score not the breakdown. Sure the good vs mixed/poor is about dead even in the breakdown. But a 5.7 clearly shows that nearly half of the users say they didn’t like it."

There are no "main stats." That's you struggling to find words to describe something you don't comprehend. A 5.7 isn't a clear indicator of how many users liked the game. Your reaction is why review bombing is a thing. People who do it bank on people like you only engaging that final number and making it out to be more than what it is. You know what that number is? It's the sum of all the user scores divided by the number of user scores. That's it.

"A game with tlou1 pushing the majority of its sales should have been a sure fire success which it wasn’t.... a game with tlou1 pushing the majority of the sales it should have done ridiculously good which it fell so tragically short that not even the first game could keep it afloat."

Here you go again with the unsubstantiated hot takes. Your bias is astounding. You set the bar high with your premise, which itself contained some assumptions, and finish off with yet another baseless claim. All in one sentence.

Record sales. One of the highest (if not the highest) story completion trophy percentages on PSN. Higher than the original. Higher than FF7R. Higher than GoT. Higher than Doom: Eternal. Numerous GOTY awards and nominations from both critics and fans. But I guess when you're shamelessly biased "success" becomes so narrowly defined that you insist it can only be measured by treating Metacritic as the unimpeachable standard, but only their user reviews, which they care so little about that anyone with an account can leave a review, not the critic scores that are what give the site its relevance in the industry, and not the positive Metacritic user reviews, which are 691% more than what TLOU got, 3,309% more than what Gears 5 got, 4,359% more than what Halo 5 got, 8,442% more than what Forza Horizon 3 got, and 22,854% more than what Crackdown 3 got. Did I get you right?

[lucian229]

So it's immersive that there is fake traffic? It's immersive that the AI is so bad? That cops teleport Behind you and kill you as soon as you commit a crime even if you're on a remote building? 🤣 Your definition of immersive is very interesting. Your choices in this game don't even matter.

[Kubark]

These sort of people want to eat up the slop and declare it the chef's best. They're giving these publishers a signal that's it's ok to pump out trash.

[Profchaos]

Can certainly tell the focus was elsewhere wanted system does suck and there's lots of tricks to push immersion however I don't care it's still a good game I purchased we legion a month ago and was way more disappointed in that than cp

[boing1]

Sounds like you were watching YouTube instead of actually playing it.

[cyclindk]

I had this “law enforcement” AI issue with Red Dead 2 which made me stop playing. I wonder if they ever tweaked it? Im on an almost empty beach, accidentally commit a crime and then bang, a fleet of law dogs on horseback come sweeping in...

[Shiro173]

How's the world feeling like a breathing world when the AI is horrible. Worse ai I have seen and nothing near a breathing world.

[cabbitwithscissors]

Entitled much? Somebody forgot the sh#tshow that was Fallout76 and Elder Scrolls. Not to mention that nickel and diming of games via lootboxes and horse arnor.
I suggest the OP (Opinion Piece Author) go take a chill pill and go do something else.
Not to state as @ThunderG0d_Bane mentioned about Mass Effect Andromeda and Anthem.

[cell989]

Not immersive at all, it has too many empty lifeless areas and the physics are awful. GTA V does it way better and that game is old and was done in less than 8 years

[Vx_]

Hahaha this piece of trash is only immersive in all the wrong ways, like for example it’s a good source in creating the memes of the decade

[Hikoran]

I'm on PS5 and it runs beautifully. All these bandwagon posts hating cyberpunk just shows how pathetically useless game journalists are.

[Vx_]

doesn't matter which platform you're playing it on, I have it on my gaming PC, but it still has the same Ai issues, physics issues, balancing issues across all platforms.

[menghina]

Are you mental ?
This game is pure garbage , shit story / broken as fuck , 0 physics , most retard braindead AI from ANY GAME !!! , crap music that have no place in this universe........YEA it GARBAGEEEEE pure shit !! I love the Witcher series but this game is a abomination we need to burn it with fire and never see it again !!!

[dumahim]

Right. Worse than everything that went on with Fallout 76? Canvas bag, unsecure website with customer details, and other crap that went on?

[outsider1624]

"I got cyberpunk on pc and the game is super immersive feels like a living breathing world of its own which is something special"

I seriously want whatever copy you got for pc. Because the copy i played is nothing immersive about it. Good looking yes...but living breathing world? Lmao!!

[frostypants]

Every no-name site is rushing to the dogpile for the easy clicks. The author is such a choad.

[anast]

Fallout 76, Anthem, Andromeda, Diablo Immortal, Cyberpunk, FIFA 21 ....We should hold a vote. I think Diablo Immortal is the biggest failure this gen.

[UnSelf]

Crackdown 3

[gamer7804]

I know people hated on it. But I really liked it, sunk a ton of hours into crackdown 3

[Lore]

Haha, this was a great way to break up the tension as you read from top to bottom

[gamer7804]

Tlou2

[Paridinojelly]

Disappointing? Yes.
Failure of the generation? Absolutely not.

[RgR]

For me it was anthem. No excuse for how crappy the game was. It wasn't buggy. It just sucked. Still played it though. Got to the end game and stopped.

Flying around was the only redeeming quality.

[SamPao]

Diablo Immortal? Its not even out and everyone that played it likes it lol!
Same for FIFA, people love it.
now Fallout somehow managed to still stay relevant.
Andromeda, not many talk about it anymore but people seemed to enjoy it.
Cyberpunk, will eventually dig itself out of the shitshow they created, so they are going to be fine.

Anthem however.... Is still the failure it was when it released and noone cares anymore.

I vote Anthem. :)

[anast]

Cellphone games are the worst followed by live service games. Anthem is a good choice, though.

[RgR]

Between anthem and tlou2.

Anthem I expected something actually good.
Tlou2 had such great possibilities and stories to tell...and for me fell flat on its face and burned.

Hoped it would be my game of the gen.

[Lore]

Agreed man, they could have used Bill again for some much needed comic relief, along with so much more in terms of nostalgia and setpieces. The pacing of the original is just unmatched. Also makes me wonder if Evan Wells leaving was part of the issue with this entry

[RazzerRedux]

What are you talking about? Evan Wells is still at ND.

[Broncob]

Bruce Straley bud

[Lore]

Yup Bruce, my mistake

[Brutus83]

LOU2 was brilliant. What didn't you like about it?

[robtion]

The story was abysmal. Casting Joel as a villain then making you play as an unlikeable, hypocritical character who you are initially set-up to hate (Abbie). It's not clever or enjoyable.

The story in the original is far superior.

[_Decadent_Descent]

@ robtion "Casting Joel as a villain..."

What are you talking about? Joel's own actions made him a villain. Did you really believe that he could just murder or bunch of people in cold blood for his own selfish reasons and not face retaliation/consequences? In what world does it work that way?

[Brutus83]

@robtion I guess you didn't comprehend the story. Dont worry, its not for everone.

[RgR]

It was a typical revenge story that supposedly ends in some kind of enlightenment but there is no actual character progression.

Ellie progresses into this crazy badass willing to torture and beat to death only to decide at the end .....nahhh. then there's lack of character depth for the new people in the game. Too many pluto issues and nonsense that are out of character. Abby is uninteresting to begin with...while true that by the end you kinda don't mind her but that's just because they forced you to see her side in such a good way and Ellie's in a horrible way. I don't think that's brilliant. But I go along with it only to get a curve ball at the end that negates the entire point of the game.

@decadent

Soilers of the first below.
The whole plot of the first game is centered on joel making amends with his new task of protecting this girl.
What exactly selfish act did he do?
Which one of us would let our daughter die without her consent ...in the name of a possible cure to something that people have been living with for years. The doctors and firefly's did the monstrous thing of sedating a little girl in order to cut her brain out. Joel wanted that not to happen but tje firefly's didn't give a shit and therefore he has to take her by force. Joel did nothing wrong within the context of the situation and the current state of the world.

@Brutus

You guys then turn it around claiming we don't understand the story. The story is not hard to get. Everyone knows what they were trying to do. Some of us just prefer better storytelling and plot.

There unanimous consent that the first game was incredible story wise. Not so with the second. People had different opinions on the ending but everyone loved it. Not so with the second.

[CrimsonWing69]

Holy sh*t, no it isn’t! I can’t believe the craziness of the media. All you outlets praised the sh*t out of the game and then when the public had an outcry you sure changed your tune.

I’ve beaten the game and this is far from the biggest failure of this entire generation.

Geezus I can’t wait until this dragging through the mud is over with.

[SamPao]

Because they only ev3er showed the PC version and it was forbidden to show ANY console footage. Of course it got praised because there was no other way to know.

[njitram2000]

But that's the whole point. Bad performance does not make a game "bad". If that was the case, Bayonetta (PS3) and Crysis (original on PC) would have been bad games. The game itself can only be judged on PC at the moment and on there it's good. Not as good as it could have been but definitely 7 or 8/10

[CrimsonWing69]

PC version runs just like it does on the Xsex and PS5 it’s not without all the bugs.

The base consoles it’s running better on. Watch any a YouTube stream for chrissakes.

This generation we had games like Fallout 4, Mass Effect Andromeda, and Fallout 76. This game is no worse than those.

This has gotten out of hand and yes it’s their fault for not being transparent and showing a high end PC build of the game up until launch. Why companies haven’t learned to stop Watchdogging the public is beyond me but this game is so far from being the biggest failure of the entire generation.

[RgR]

Well that doesn't make sense. The game is either good or not.

[Vanfernal]

Anthem takes that price. Not only did it had a disastrous launch, but it never bounced back. The devs pretty much gave up on the game. Cyberpunk eventually will become the game it was supposed to be. NMS is a story about perseverance because Hello games could've easily hung up the gloves when the game was pretty much universally hated and yet they completely turned it around. If you bought Anthem you will never have anything to show for it

[UltimateOwnage]

The game is good. I have the 1.06 patch running on PS5 and I’m enjoying the hell out of it. I’m excited for the PS5 optimized build, I’m going to want to play this through a few times.

[DEEHULK88]

Game sold 13 million already, so it is not a failure

[SullysCigar]

Yeah, because sales are the only metric for success... /S

[DEEHULK88]

It's not, but I would rather have 13 million sales over low sales + issues

[SullysCigar]

No care for reputation? Your craft? Your place among your peers? The view of the shareholders and the affect on the share price? The trust of your customers and previously loyal fan base? Whether people are actually enjoying the fruits of your labours?

Just money :^/

[DEEHULK88]

SullysCigar
It seems like a lot of people like it and your point of view is not the standard, so if you don't like it, that's you.

[SullysCigar]

Oh, so now it's suddenly about liking the game or not - so you're changing the subject. Righto champ.

[RPGer]

This reminds me of Final Fantasy 15, the game that could have change JRPG and uplift the genre above in term in quality and variety. However, the game released and had been seen in two different point of views.

Group one see the game as huge disappointment, because they waited it for 8 years or even ten. The disappointment sources were the trailers and the talk about it by developers etc. Theses people wanted to love the game and they actually supported it by preorders and the game made it being the second best selling ever in the series. (The first of course 1997 FF7)

Group two: They love the series or newbies, so they can't care less about what the trailers showed and they loved the game for what it is. Some of them didn't watch the trailers or didn't really remember the amount of content and details that been left out.

It is happening all again now. Some people defending with tons of tactics. And some people are just expressing their disappointment (That does provoke defenders).

[Ninver]

Wow that's a hell of a title. If we're going by hype and anticipation then I agree. It's the biggest F up this entire gen.

[badz149]

Don't know about biggest failure but it certainly is the most overhyped game EVER and it was released broken out of the gate. Pretty hard to beat in terms of failure level. Releasing it with ZERO quality control was a huge middle finger to the whole industry.

[Gatsu]

Nah, not broken for pc masterrace.

[Kubark]

The biggest blunder in all of vidya.

[P_Bomb]

Going from a console GotG to a mid-50 meta is jarring to say the least. Proverbial penthouse to the outhouse.

[Profchaos]

Fallout 76, anthem, mass effect Andromeda, mirror's edge catalyst all a hundred times worse

[potatoseal]

Fallout 76 was a bigger failure

[Gatsu]

Stop with the bullshit.

[Rebel_Scum]

Nah not the biggest. Top five yeah can see that. ME:Andromeda, Anthem and Battlefront 2 were bigger shit shows.

[Charal]

On PC, even if some physic bugs remains still it is technically very solid.

It is also a very immersive RPG, with amazing characters to interact with.
On top of that, if played a certain way (no mini map, slow pace to travel across the city), immersion is once again the word that comes in mind.

Switching back to AC Valhalla after 50h in Cyberpunk, I truly realized how Cyberpunk is really on a other level vs other games on the market.
Plus, bugs side on PC Valhalla is no better.

OG consoles version is not doing any good to the game, but the title here should have been CDPR is the biggest disappointment of the gen for their decision on that matter.

Cyberpunk is an amazing game, that should have never been released on current gen consoles.

My biggest disappointment is the lack of secondary activities like gambling, playable arcade games in bars or futuristic Gwent like stuff.
It would have double down on immersion.

Secondary missions though are impressive, they add a thick layer of lore and intrication with the city and its inhabitants.

[RazzerRedux]

"Plus, bugs side on PC Valhalla is no better."

It really isn't. I just recently had to load a save from hours earlier because I'm supposed to escort that seer woman to her new home but she walks to a point and just stops. Other times Evivor is getting stuck jumping in mid-air and just floats there. But do I see article after article complaining about the shit going on in AC:V? Nope. Ubisoft should sent a thank you note to CDPR.

[Charal]

Recurrent crashes for Valhalla on my side, not one in Cyberpunk.

Social media bashing is really the issue of our time.

[potatoseal]

LOL I remember that. What you need to do is talk to Randvi first and exhaust her dialogue and then meet the Seer at the Docks. The Seer stopped at that spot you talked about, because that's where she is supposed to meet Randvi to say "hello" LOL. But if you don't speak to Randvi for some mission, then Randvi just never shows and the Seer just stands there making you go crazy. I actually tried to kill the B*tch lmao. Same shit happened to me hahaha.

Also, my Assassin's Creed Valhalla playthrough had a lot of bugs and the game crashed a total of 10 times. I remember because every time I sent the video clip to Sony and in the part where it asked what happened I would just say... "3rd crash"... "4th crash"

The bashing for CyberPunk 2077 is not just out of control. It's far beyond that, it's taken on a life of it's own. I hate it and it's waaaaay over the top

[hiawa23]

How are people saying TLOU2🤔? ❤ that game. Masterpiece. Game of the generation for me. ❤ the story and Abby.

[njitram2000]

Honestly, for me it's just because the story is centered around pure hate and revenge. The first one was about a desperate world where hard, human choices had to be made and a kid that was way too young had to evolve into something she had no choice becoming.
TLOU 1 is possibly my favourite game of all time and the sequel didn't have any of the soul in my eyes (except the parts where Joel was still alive). Then all you're left with a is a game with pretty meh controls and a gorgeous world with a huge amount of polish.

[hiawa23]

I can respect that✌

[RazzerRedux]

Hyperbolic nonsense and pure click bait. And how did I know TLOU 2 haters would have to chime in on this topic.

[potatoseal]

I honestly question whether the author actually believes this. I can't wait until all this hate goes away. For Cyberpunk and TLOU2. These 2 games have copped more hate than any other game this generation imo, including Fallout 76, Anthem or any other game. I haven't played CyberPunk yet, but I bet it's a great game. Looking forward to buying it in 2021

[Father__Merrin]

Torrid game on all systems. The only reason why people say they like it on forums is to defend thier purchase, defend CDPR and simply pretend there's no issues...

[waverider]

Its hard to accept, but its the reality. A game that took so many year and years and delays after delays and its mess. Beside that its no revolution or evolution. In many aspect its worse that other open worlds games. Gameplay, story, IA.... a lot of smoke and mirror to try and make the city alive. The game was over hyped and doesnt excel in nothing. i see people here talking about other game, but there not comparison. Somehting that create so much emotions while playing, some like other dont, but it had huge impact worldwide. this game alll the talk is about bugs, glitches, running bad, false promises from CPDR, lies and excuses for something that was 8 year in the making....

[Broncob]

@Gwendelyn

"O it had a compelling narrative. Problem for people like you is that it actually required some brain power to understand the nuance."

Why is it that some LOU2 fans have to resort to insulting someones intelligence when they dislike the narrative, ND must be proud to promote this kind of toxic fanbase, very sad.....

[potatoseal]

ND absolutely DO NOT promote this behaviour and never have.

[Aaroncls7]

stop writing shit like this, you just want the clicks

[tombfan]

I'm getting tired of all these media hate, yes, it's a buggy mess and has performance issues on old consoles, but the game that's there is a great one, it just need extra polish, we all know a delay would've been optimal, but there's not. so let's deal with it. AND MOVE ON!

[Master of Unlocking]

It may be the biggest failure of the generation (PS4, XBox One) but with a bit of work (ok.. a lot of work), it could become the sensation of next-gen...err, current gen (PS5, XBox S.X) in 2021.

I'm looking forward to playing Cyberpunk 2077 Re-Chromed next Xmas

[Seafort]

I've finished Cyberpunk 2077 on PC taking 110 glorious hours. It's a brilliant game with memorable characters with an amazing dark and repressive world.

But it could have been so much more. The technical side of the game is quite poor and should have been delayed to sort this out to polish the game much more than it is now.

I hope CDProjekt is hard at work at improving the game and making the game it can become.

If No Man's Sky can improve and change the game to what it is today then Cyberpunk should have no problems become the amazing game it was destined to be.

I don't believe the game should have been released on the last gen consoles but that's my opinion.

[J-DARKnes]

I would give that to the last of us Part2 but that's my personal opinion, bugs can be fixed but a bad story stays bad forever.

[Rambokind]

Not the biggest; that's ridiculous. But it is a huge disappointment. They'll eventually fix the issues with the game, but it's going to tarnish the dev's rep.

[CantThinkOfAUsername]

Everyone saying 'the game is great no problems other than bugs' is like someone who chose a Big Mac over a well-done steak because it tastes good.

[SaveFerris]

It will take some effort for CDPR to repair the hit to their reputation. I rate Mass Effect: Andromeda in 2nd place, and Anthem close behind in 3rd. I was looking forward to both Cyberpunk 2077 and ME:A and even pre-ordered both of them. Felt that I made the right decision in cancelling just prior to their release based on news like cut content, bugs, and the general direction the games were heading.

[jeromeface]

The gaming community consists of entitled spoiled trolls. This right here is the reason there's less AAA titles than ever before. Companies aren't willing to take risks because when they do and its becomes cool to hate on something here we are. Do the console versions need work? Sure, does that warrant all this backlash? hell no.

[GordyNYC]

13 million in sales says otherwise...

[sagapo]

For me that title goes to Anthem. The core gameplay was great but for a looter shooter it missed a lot of loot.

[Darthpaul84]

There are some big contenders in this race. Evolve was hugely hyped early in the generation and never really found a footing. Anthem looked amazing but fizzled on release. At least cyberpunk is solid on next gen systems and pc .

[Spenok]

This article is the biggest failure of the generation...

[agent4532]

So the PC version of this game is not that buggy. Is it true about its limited choices/romance options????