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Naughty Dog dev joins ZeniMax Online Studios to work on "unannounced AAA IP"

A former Naughty Dog designer is going to work on a secret new AAA project at the Elder Scrolls Online studio.

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DJStotty1247d ago

Good stuff, more games a cometh!!

GottaBjimmyb1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Elder scrolls online is great, but not my cup of tea, but Fallout 76 was terrible (probably still is) so I am going to hold my excitement for now for anything Zenimax/Bethesda related in the online realm. I am looking forward to most of the other Zenimax/Bethesda games more than this TBH.

Father__Merrin1245d ago

Fo76 is quite enjoyable actually with all the single player quest content

Shiken1245d ago

Fallout 76 and Wolfenstein Youngblood were games that the former owners insisted be made, not really something the devs wanted to make. I would not base any judgements on future titles based off of that, since they are now a MS studio.

That being said, bringing up that we have yet to see how they will be under MS management is a fair concern. I feel optimisticly hopeful however that good things are in the future, as MS seems to be giving devs more freedom than they used to.

DJStotty1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

I think it is time for a new Quake from ID software.

@Father

I am still yet to play Fallout 76, i have it installed, but i just have too many games to play lol.

Jin_Sakai1247d ago

Why do we need an article every time a Naughty Dog employee leaves or joins another studio? This stuff happens everyday in the gaming industry.

potatoseal1247d ago

Naughty Dogh have about 500 employees lol. It's news everytime a single person decides to leave.

DJStotty1247d ago

Exactly, an employee of a studio going to another studio should not be news, and neither is it really gaming news.

How many employees have joined NG and the likes of other studios over the years? How come we do not hear about those?

N4G would be full of article after article of dev's moving around lol

Tech51245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

"Naughty Dog and Rockstar Animator Joins Sony’s New Studio for An Unannounced Project"
https://n4g.com/news/223536...

reception - awesome news!!!

"Naughty Dog dev joins ZeniMax"
https://n4g.com/news/239212...

reception - "Why do we need an article every time a Naughty Dog employee leaves or joins another studio? This stuff happens everyday in the gaming industry. "

NeoGamer2321245d ago

@RazzerRedux
I totally agree the volume is different. But to me, that is based on two things:

1) Gaming media who thinks that taking any random (or non-random) person from one company to another somehow has a console war implication
2) Gaming media trying to highlight and magnify problems a studio may be having in the development of a game.

To me, there is no factual evidence that either has any truth to it. AAA games are developed by literally 100's of developers. Taking one or even several developers away is not going to change the console war or the outcome of any specific AAA game.

The reason we are seeing more of Sony studio people moving is that MS is ramping up a new AAA studio. They have to get the talent from somewhere. They aren't going to just hire a ton of developers straight out of school and say, "Here's a few hundred million, build us Perfect Dark in 3-6 years". They are going to look for experience and try and hire that experience. It is that simple. And it should not be news. There are only a hand full of people in every studio that are worth talking about when they move on. Those are the highest leaders, not some random developer, graphics designers, etc.

The world needs people to quit analyzing and hanging on every word and new story that comes out in real time. If you are a Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, PC, Mobile, or whatever gamer, you don't need to constantly run other gamers over if you feel your platform is somehow superior to another. And vice versa, all these gamers should not be spiking the ball every time they think their platform is winning something somehow. We are all gamers. Gamers are the community not a specific platform's community.

RazzerRedux1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

@NeoGamer232

I don't disagree with anything you've said. I would say the gaming media is trying to trying to use the console wars to generate traffic on their sites and this is just as good a method as any, I suppose.

"The reason we are seeing more of Sony studio people moving is that MS is ramping up a new AAA studio."

Sure, but it isn't newsworthy. If it were then the 100s of new designers and developers that have joined The Initiative over the last few years would each have their own article. But....not all of them came from Sony and those that did make for prime console war print. The gaming media doesn't care.

If Corey Barlog leaves Sony, that's news. If Todd Howard leaves Bethesda, that's news. But if Colin Malzahn leaves Naughty Dog, why is that news? You've never heard of him before. But if he makes a career change, it doesn't mean a thing. Especially since I just made him up.

"AAA games are developed by literally 100's of developers. Taking one or even several developers away is not going to change the console war or the outcome of any specific AAA game."

Couldn't agree more. The only thing of note in this article is the unannounced AAA IP. That is news. The ND dev? Nope. All those articles I linked? Nope.

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DJStotty1247d ago

I took more notice of the "unannounced AAA IP" as opposed to the ND dev.

Developers switch studios/projects all the time, so that should not really be newsworthy.

Relientk771246d ago

I've never seen a "Former Xbox developer joins to this studio" article

Silly gameAr1246d ago

Because there isn't any lol. Only when someone from a Sony dev gets a job. It's really dumb.

Atticus_finch1245d ago

It's compliment to Naughty Dog really.

Sayai jin1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

What does this have to do with Xbox?

Atticus, it is a compliment, but it seems to tweak people for some reason.

Sunny_D1245d ago

Well there aren’t any industry leading devs making GOTY games consistently at Xbox. They have to get from the best. 🤷‍♂️

RgR1245d ago

Up until recently there were very few microsoft studios at all...therefore likes former xbox developers.

I assume it is "newsworthy" because people care about naughty dog...in contrast nobody cares about any previous microsoft studio...except for the ones they bought recently of course.

Imalwaysright1245d ago

I can only remember one: Corrine Yu.

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NeoGamer2321245d ago

Agreed. Really, anytime there is an employee that leaves from any studio. We get it... Just like every other company in the world developers have turnover. This is not news.

Sitdown1245d ago

Probably the same reason why we need for the same people to come in such articles to make the same comments.

I would love for you all to come in sales articles and ask why do we keep posting sales articles, because sales happen everyday in the gaming industry.

Like it or not, people enjoy seeing where talent goes.

Silly gameAr1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

Then anytime talent goes somewhere, shouldn't we have an article about it also? It's only when someone from Naughty Dog finds a job that's connected to MS, do we get an article about it.

Come on man, we have to at least admit that.

RazzerRedux1245d ago

"I would love for you all to come in sales articles and ask why do we keep posting sales articles, because sales happen everyday in the gaming industry."

People ask that question all the time.

"Like it or not, people enjoy seeing where talent goes."

No they don't. They like seeing Sony talent going to a Microsoft studio. If there was an article every single time "talent" left a studio for another studio then this site would be overrun with such articles. But we don't see that. We see articles just like this.

If this dev had said he was leaving Sony for Zenimax prior to Microsoft's announcement of purchasing Zenimax, there would be no article here at all.

Sitdown1245d ago

@Silly gameAr
If the information readily available on other developers? Some of you all are just being extra, in sports, do you hear more about what the Lakers are doing or Minnesota. Normal for high profile companies and departures to garner more attention.

@RazzerRedux
Please see above, and stop with the speculation. Did we not just get an article about the recent Halo departure?

RazzerRedux1245d ago (Edited 1245d ago )

I'll speculate all I want, thanks. But if you think this is comparable news to the project director of any AAA studio leaving such as a Chris Lee or Darrell Gallagher then you are simply kidding yourself.

Sitdown1245d ago

Oh wow, you showed me by telling me you can speculate all you want. Man, if you only knew how to read into that sentence.

And there goes the goal post moving, didn't take long at all.

RazzerRedux1245d ago

"And there goes the goal post moving, didn't take long at all."

That "recent Halo departure"? Yeah, that was Chris Lee. The director of Halo Infinite.

https://n4g.com/news/238208...

How am I "moving goalposts" when I'm referring to the exact event YOU brought up?

Sitdown1245d ago

@RazzerRedux
Let me help you, goal post moving is when you change the standard of measurement.

I said people like to know where developers go, and you said that wasn't true, they just want to know when Sony developers leave and go to Microsoft studios. Then when I mention the recent Halo news proving you wrong, you say..but but but that's different because he was higher ranking. Was he an employee? Yes. Did he leave a company other than Sony? Yes. Was it posted here? Yes. So did it meet the criteria of what I said? Yes. Now you tried to come over top and say it's not valid because of his ranking.

That is a classic example of goal post moving.

RazzerRedux1244d ago (Edited 1244d ago )

"Let me help you, goal post moving is when you change the standard of measurement."

Let me help you. Pointing out a false equivalency is not moving goal posts. It is pointing out your error. The guy in this article is one of hundreds of developers working for Naughty Dog and you are trying to pretend his or her next job is newsworthy because there was coverage on Chris Lee's leaving Halo Infinite. Because....both "employees"? False equivalency and you know it. Whining about goal posts is all you have because you know your argument is just bullshit. That's fine. I'm just going to laugh this conversation off and let you be wrong.

Sitdown1244d ago

@RazzerRedux
Let me help you out. I didn't make any distinction in level or position of the employee when I made my statement, so equivalency doesn't matter in my point. You tried to jump in my conversation and over projected what I was saying, and now you are whining because you can't bully my general point that there have been articles being Naughty Dog. Have fun laughing off the conversation, because for some reason you needed to tell me you like to giggle.

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Sayai jin1245d ago

I see other articles about people leaving other studios, retiring, joining studios, lay-offs, etc. This ranges from devs, social media influencers, etc. It is by definition gaming news. Full stop.

SmokinAces1245d ago

Because there's a misguided belief that if someone leaves Naughty Dog it will destroy the company and they wont be able to make amazing games anymore and some people relish in that notion. Well people left before and during TLOU 2 development which went on to win GOTY so their hopes and dreams are dashed. I agree its not news worthy.

Godmars2901245d ago

Because MS's reputation as a game maker is o bad that when a former Sony dev signs on with them, it must be pointed out.

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OptimusDK1247d ago

Yeah- Naughty crunch ... there are now more opertunities if you want to work at a top tier developer. Good for them

majiebeast1245d ago

Then why did they join Bugthesda or Microsoft?

Vits1247d ago

I found the fact that Zenimaz Online is working on a unannounced AAA IP much more interesting. This is not your "common" developer as they actually just had worked on the Elder Scrolls Online and offered support for Fallout 76. So it will be interesting to see what this project is really about.

Silly gameAr1246d ago

Naughty Dog is so popular, there's news when an ex-employee gets a job somewhere else. I mean, it must be because of Naughty Dog, because no other devs get articles when they find jobs, right?

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The PS5 Has Shipped An Estimated 5x More Units Than The Xbox Series X/S In The Last Quarter

When the PS5 and the Xbox Series X/S first launched all the way back in 2020, console sales were not what either platform manufacturer wanted them to be. The pandemic slowed things down more than ever before, even though in the case of each next-gen console, all the units that were manufactured, sold.

Of course that didn’t last, and soon manufacturing limitations on the consoles were a thing of the past, and sales started to leap forward. For one next-gen console platform, at least.

-Foxtrot14h ago

I can see why Microsoft is putting their games on PlayStation with these numbers

Imagine how many copies of future games like Elder Scrolls VI, Blade, Indiana Jones and more they could sell if they went fully multiplatform.

OtterX8h ago

If they don't, it would be the death of them.

purple1016h ago

while I see your point, i'm one of those people that dont really want to see a M$ logo, when I boot up, however good the game is, unless truly exceptional, I've got enough games from Sony and enough coming down the pipeline, plus the 2 free smaller games on ps+, why do I need to give Microsoft anymore money,

I usually play just GT7 and cod, you've got Gran Theft Auto coming, its over for microsoft, they shot themselves in the foot, and now have to hobble away, to the losers corner, sit there, and repent.,!!! hahaha

OtterX6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

@Purple101 At this point, Microsoft just wants to be the American Tencent, but also just happen to have a console available for those who want it.

I hate what they're doing to the industry, but I would play the next Elder Scrolls on PS5 or PS6 even if I had to look at a MS logo at the beginning. At this point, I'm just invested in the series. I didn't feel this way about Starfield, which is why I've skipped it. Worst case scenario, I'd pick Elder Scrolls up on PC if it didn't come to PS, but I've stayed true to my word - I have not, and will not buy another Microsoft console after 3 red ringed 360s. They've killed my console support for life. They showed how scummy they can be by knowingly rushing out a product before it was ready, just to try and capture a 1 year headstart.

If a MS logo shows up at the beginning of the next Elder Scrolls on a Playstation console, so what? That means Sony won and MS is just another publisher. Many of the large publishers are quite dirty, so it fits them well. I wouldn't mind seeing their console die off though and them solely take up this publisher role.

Jingsing2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Yeah, I never bought another Xbox console after the 360. But at the same time you shouldn't find yourself captive to Elder Scrolls if the company behind it is very scummy. I dropped COD after Ghosts and I don't regret it the company has only become worse and I'm glad I never was part of funding that.

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Barlos2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

A surprise to nobody.

S2Killinit2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

5X is a surprise as it’s just unreal.

Jingsing2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Sony would probably be selling more if they stopped sending mixed signals about their future. Putting games on PC because you are taking data analytic advice from Microsoft about the future of consoles is folly and has limited their potential sales. Microsoft want Sony and the world to believe that consoles are done as a business so companies like Sony and Nintendo etc can end up serving Microsoft's platform. Remember when it comes to Microsoft "It is us or no one and the three E's" Don't fall for it.

S2Killinit2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

MS has forced everyone’s hand in regard to PC. If the other two dont release on PC, they will be giving them an edge. Imo

Although i think Sony/PlayStation would be wise to release selectively on PC.

Jingsing1h ago

The way Sony are doing it though is very suspect, It almost seems like they are trying to tunnel their way out of Steam with a PSN back-end. They should have just launched their own store. Yes this would no doubt upset PC users but you just can't have everything on Steam as that means no market competition. Microsoft and Sony should only use their own stores. That way they can also enforce their subscription fee's (I don't think there should be fee's) like they do on console as right now they are saying people on console have to pay this fee but if you play on PC you don't. That is very anti-consumer.

Skuletor0m ago

While putting their games on PC would lose them some console sales, there's a large market of people that prefer consoles for their simplicity and convenience, I wonder if it would really effect them negatively. Well, I guess at this current point they won't be dragging PC players into a PS Plus subscription, so there's that.

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