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NBA 2K21 Is 72GB on XSX, PS5 Version Will Require Minimum of 150GB

NBA 2K21 PS5 and Xbox Series X file sizes revealed and they're big! The PS5 version requires a minimum of 150GB.

Neonridr1289d ago

why the heck would the PS5 version be twice as big? And damn, that's almost 1/4 of the useable HD right there.

Atom6661289d ago

This came up with COD too. I think it's b/c of the copying process.

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

bouzebbal1289d ago

I'm really missing the time where no hdd was required for gaming.. Over 100 gig for a game is plain ridiculous

boing11289d ago (Edited 1289d ago )

But Cerny said this won't be the case with PS5 because of super fast ssd? I'm pretty sure he addressed exactly this on his architecture lecture. This will be very annoying if PS5 will have the same issue. Storage space seems to already be pretty scarce.

potatoseal1289d ago

Why don't you just write 'Because' instead of b/c ??

Who does that?

bouzebbal1289d ago (Edited 1289d ago )

Being

You still need the data on the hdd, which is on the disc only, and the patches or updates you download.
Problem I'm seeing is, the transfer speed won't force studios to optimize..

Atom6661289d ago

@Potato

Old shorthand habit.

Also, b/c I fucking want to.

OptimusDK1289d ago

No there should be no additional downloads for patches. And should not be listed as the size of the game in the store.

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Nitrowolf21289d ago

its a min requirement so it may not be the final size but the needed amount to uncompress

still thats insane

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SmokinAces1289d ago

It wont be the final size but man does it make a good headline.

Timzster1289d ago

Same question here. Thankfully this is not on the radar but that’s a lot of HD space that could go to another game.

Stanjara1289d ago

Well I guess that it needs double space for installs just like ps4.
That 600gb is too small for next gen, just like it was for ps4.

Rhythmattic1289d ago

Yeh 364 / 664 / 800 is not going to cut it.... But , with a game that's not taking advantage of the SSD capabilities.... Not the idea of streaming, but loading assets into ram like the old methods, you'd think that PS5 games not using the actual benefit Sony's invisioned should be able to be installed on the External drive... Sony needs to have a whitelist of (3rd party) games that dont need compulsory ssd installation.
Hopefully in a update.

Obscure_Observer1289d ago

@Neonridr

"why the heck would the PS5 version be twice as big? And damn, that's almost 1/4 of the useable HD right there."

It´s Velocity. More specifically it´s *Hardware Accelerated Decompression* component:

"Hardware Accelerated Decompression: Game packages and assets are compressed to minimize download times and the amount of storage required for each individual game. With hardware accelerated support for both the industry standard LZ decompressor as well as a brand new, proprietary algorithm specifically designed for texture data named BCPack, Xbox Series X provides the best of both worlds for developers to achieve massive savings with no loss in quality or performance. As texture data comprises a significant portion of the total overall size of a game, having a purpose built algorithm optimized for texture data in addition to the general purpose LZ decompressor, both can be used in parallel to reduce the overall size of a game package. Assuming a 2:1 compression ratio, Xbox Series X delivers an effective 4.8 GB/s in I/O performance to the title, approximately 100x the I/O performance in current generation consoles. To deliver similar levels of decompression performance in software would require more than 4 Zen 2 CPU cores."

nirwanda1289d ago (Edited 1289d ago )

https://www.google.com/amp/...
Just drop this here
The games are likely to be similar sizes give or take a couple of gig.
Link is for series X file size story on gamespot

Rhythmattic1289d ago (Edited 1289d ago )

Obscure..
And that there is still minuscule to the PS5 capabilities... The choice and approach off a developer is different to actual technologies you imply makes Xbox better..
Hows this for numbers.
Throughput.
Xbox
2.4 Raw data.. 4.8 Compressed.
PS5
well double both numbers.. but yet.... WAIT, theres more... Sony just Licensed Ooodle... So with Kraken implemented with oodle.. Guess wha? over 3 X...... YES OVER THREE TIMES the conceived data throughput as you SX compressed file..
And then theres a Hypothetical number..... 22GB a sec....
So pick and choose, but doing that you loose.
Velocity is in this case, Critical Velocity. lol
I hate when the idea that the relationship between a tech statement is the fact of reason posted by the uniformed...
Its nothing to do with the velocity engine, its how its used..... OR NOT.
A PS5 is not a Win PC .

Edit: Just because.
https://cbloomrants.blogspo...

Rhythmattic1289d ago

My Response based on Facts have been downvoted due too the immature, fingers in the ear, that you just deport want to believe....Obscure, brought it up , and I responded..... So.. You'll understand what "Pubes" are someday.....

Its just have to laugh.... Its like fake media illusion of an illusion....
... It just is.. because.... Becuase..... it just is ok... (Crosses arms like a child)..

Just bloody gold!

porkChop1289d ago

It's not bigger, it's because Xbox and PS handle downloads/installs differently. Xbox is like Steam, where it downloads/installs individual files directly in to place. There's only ever one version of each file on your storage drive.

PS doesn't do that. It downloads a big batch file to the storage, then uncompresses and copies all the individual files into place. It deletes the original batch file after installation. You basically have two versions of the game on your storage while it's installing. To be honest I thought they were going to change that this gen.

Rhythmattic1288d ago

Cerny Talks about updates no longer do that.. But as for New installs, hmmm, not too sure....

CBaoth1288d ago

And they bloody well better. COD if anything taught us moving forward this ridiculous patch method is unacceptable. We don't even have the ability to upgrade the storage yet in PS5s. I assumed this was a given with Sony moving to SSDs. Don't understand what the point of removing redundant data, language packs, and portions of the game once completed (i.e. SP campaign) if we're still hamstrung by this archaic updating method? This isn't going to prevent me from buying a PS5 once I find one but this is very disappointing news.

kfk1289d ago

Because this article is comparing the PS5 pre-install disc version to the XSX post-install digital version. This other article says the Xbox pre-install size is 121GB: https://n4g.com/news/238452...

Nick_5151289d ago

So the article is intentionally misleading... interesting

RangerWalk2671289d ago (Edited 1289d ago )

Microsoft has machine learning for AI compression and decompression built in. That's why you're seeing games running faster (SSD) than the PS5. It requires less space as well.

senis_kenis1289d ago

wow the amount of misinformation in your post and still getting up-voted :D

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itsmebryan1289d ago

I guess this is the advantage of smart delivery.

Christopher1289d ago

On drive, the end result will be 72GB, but Sony does this: downloads all files to the drive, then "copies" the files over to a specific location while validating the downloaded content, and then deletes the download file items.

So, it requires 150 just to download and install, but only 72 in the end.

I. Do. Not. Know. Why. Sony. Does. This. With. A. SSD.

Sector prioritization made sense on a HDD, but not an SSD.

RangerWalk2671289d ago

I think this will be addressed in the future. It's just not feasible to have to download all of that extra data just to turn around and delete certain files. People with data capes are doomed. I believe Xbox uses Machine Learning and AI baked into the SOC and DX12 to compress and decompress files in a very efficient way. Hence the quicker load times on the XSX. IGN and Gamespot have done side by side comparisons to the loading speed on both consoles. As of right now, XSX is faster then the PS5. Both are blistering fast.

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DeadlyFire1288d ago

Probably means Series S version is 72 GB. Series X probably has 150 GB version as well.

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Jericho13371289d ago

Hate when games require more space to install than it’s actual file size. The amount of time I’ve played hard drive Tetris to make room for game files and they don’t fit.

This issue shouldn’t be being brought into next gen. I don’t know the ins and outs but there must be a solution surely?!

MoonConquistador1289d ago

The easy solution seems to be don't buy COD or NBA but I agree with your point

itsmebryan1289d ago

Or just buy it on XSX.😉

elazz1289d ago

for the future casino and pachinko updates of course

xer01289d ago

Indeed. 150GB is just unforgivable... It shows how lazy the studio is.

CrimsonWing691289d ago (Edited 1289d ago )

that 600GB drive space, eh?

Silly gameAr1289d ago

Yeah, it's that much because Astrobot comes installed already. You can uninstall that anytime. People like to conveniently forget that a game already comes on the drive.

You can also uninstall anything else that's just sitting taking up space. Those first world problems tho. Just to difficult to deal with, I know.

CrimsonWing691289d ago

I don't think Astrobot takes up 200GB worth of space, my man.

Bruh1289d ago

@Crimson

Let him believe that man hahah

Silly gameAr1289d ago

No I don't think it takes up 200 gigs, I'm just saying, any space that is on the drive that you're not using, delete it. Not everything has to be a dramatic event.

@Bruh,

Sorry, if it's hard to believe common sense, man hahah. I don't really care if you believe it or not to be completely honest.

iplay1up21289d ago

The UI is what takes space up. The UI also uses ram that could be used for gaming.

Silly gameAr1289d ago (Edited 1289d ago )

So the UI takes up 200 gigs?

Ok.

BenRC011289d ago

It is a problem. A massive one that only fanboys like you will ignore. These initial releases are massive and they're only going to get bigger like last gen. Believe all the marketing spin you want, maybe its your first console launch, I dunno but believing Sony or ms b.s is why they get away with this crap.

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SmokinAces1289d ago

I found a simple work around for this very issue, I won't be installing NBA 2K21, problem solved.

Ninver1289d ago

Thanks for the hack lol

Muzikguy1288d ago

Same. It's a basketball game for crying out loud. There's no reason it needs to be that much

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cfir1289d ago

@CrimsonWing69 Sorry to be pedantic, but it's 664BG available and XsX is only 138GB more at 802, so it might manage 1 or 2 additional AAA games

CrimsonWing691289d ago

I don’t mean to be pedantic either, but it’s 664GB not 664BG available and what I meant to say was, “that 664GB drive space, eh?”

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Grand Theft Auto V Has Shipped Over 150 Million Units; Red Dead Redemption 2 at Over 38 Million

Take-Two Interactive Software announced new sales numbers for Grand Theft Auto V, Red Dead Redemption 2, and more of its games.

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roadkillers1024d ago

That's 5 million sales for GTA5 in 2.5 months. That's 2 million sales for RDR2 sales in 8 months. There are game companies that would kill to have 2 million sales within 8 months of release, let alone 3 years later.

GTA5 will be the best selling game this year if it releases for SeriesX and PS5. Without those releases, it will fall within the top 3 best selling games. Insane.

sourOG1024d ago

What are the other 2?

Eonjay1024d ago

So I think it's Minecraft and then Tetris whose sales are unattainable for the foreseeable future.

roadkillers1024d ago

Well, I would assume the biggest games of 2021 in terms of sales would be Call of Duty 2020, Call of Duty 2021, Halo Infinite, Forza, a Nintendo game, Far Cry 6, Grand Theft Auto 5, Diablo 2, and Battlefield.

Call of Duty 2020 - From Jan to Dec, there's lots of time to sell
Call of Duty 2021 - Generally CoD or Rockstar have the best selling game each year
Halo Infinite - I would bet on Halo, but gamepass has me confused on what sales will be.
Forza - Same as Halo, less popular
Nintendo - Since the Switch had been out, they have had a game in the top 5. This year might be New Horizons again.
Far Cry 6 - Never realized how big this franchise was. FC5 sold about 6 million copies week one, if I'm correct.
Diablo - Another Blizzard releases sells large amounts.
Battlefield - People want something to take on CoD.

Predictions:
1. CoD 2021
2. Halo Infinite
3. GTA5 with re-release
4. Far Cry 6
5. Battlefield
6. Diablo
7. Nintendo game
8. Forza

Prediction, but I probably won't be too far off. Horizon might makes its way in there because of PS4. Couple of other heavy hitters, but I think this will be close.

TheRacingX1024d ago

Thats an impressive number for sure, but the game has been out for 7-8yrs, and most would be re-purchases on new systems since its been available on PS3 PS4 X360 X1 and PC and that number will go up once they release another version for PS5 and Im sure Series X....goes to show that people will buy the same thing again and again, NIntendo taught everyone that with the Wii, WiiU and Switch.....sad for gamers but great for these companies that only spend minimal money and rake in the cash...

sourOG1024d ago

But that’s entire franchise numbers in one game lol.

Sciurus_vulgaris1024d ago (Edited 1024d ago )

GTA was ranked as the 13th highest grossing game franchise of all time a few years ago ( https://www.titlemax.com/di... It’s probably higher up the list now. Crazy how R* has been able to generate so many sales of GTA , despite the franchise being relatively infrequently released.

sourOG1024d ago

90 billion dollars in Pokémon games lol. No one is even close.

MajorLazer1024d ago

The games pale in comparison to the merchandise sales, which is where Pokemon has made its real money.

Fluttershy771024d ago

It doesn't matter if its been out for 7-8 years: show me a game that has been out for that long with these numbers. And blaming Nintendo here is a bit forced

Lightning Mr Bubbles1024d ago

Who cares, give us a new game already.

strayanalog1024d ago

But that would leave many microtransactions without a home, and someone at Take-Two will have to wait a few months as the new install base grows before getting their gold-plated shark tank bar.

B_Rian891023d ago (Edited 1023d ago )

you should check out Strange Man's newest video on YouTube. He discovered a new easter egg in RDR2 that teases the GTA 6 location. It metaphorically mentions the internal struggle at Rockstar and how they're having trouble deciding on whether to continue with GTA Online or move on to the next project. It was kind of depressing to watch

strayanalog1024d ago

In my opinion, this still feels like it would be much more impressive if it weren't a multi-platform/generation title.

MajorLazer1024d ago

Highest selling CoD is just above 30 million. How is this not impressive?!

strayanalog1024d ago

Yes, and it too was multiplatform. Wii Sports, for example, was 82 million on one platform.

I didn't say it wasn't impressive, I just chose not to scale it in my opinion. But to try to answer your question, in a sense, it just feels like cheating. I suppose I'm used to console titles being of their generation and not getting a re-release every gen since their inception, outside Tetris, of course.

So, what makes this milestone impressive to you?

TimmyTesticles1024d ago

That's because you've never been very good at math

strayanalog1024d ago

Well if you wouldn't copy me you wouldn't know that. But hey, maybe bad decisions come in a set?

MajorLazer1024d ago

Wii Sports came with every Wii and is a child-friendly game. GTA V is 18+ and still sold nearly double.

strayanalog1024d ago

Interesting look at it, and I didn't even consider the rating, MajorLazer. But I will say GTA V has the advantage of being a proven IP, had an extra boost from PC sales, and houses online multiplayer, which, let's face it, is the reason it's still selling 8 years later because most everyone have already beat it.

CS71024d ago

People are pissed at Rockstar and saying that they are taking too long but I’m tired of great series churning out mediocre entries.

I love the fact that Rockstar takes it time and when it does release we get an absolute generation defining banger.

There is a reason why Rockstar’s games sit at 95+ metacritic every generation. Quality like RDR2 and GTAV takes time.

We allllll know that when GTA6 drops it is going to be out of this world.

And I think more companies should do that instead of releasing the same drivel every year.

Storm231024d ago

Appreciate your thoughts on this. Got me to think about it differently and I now am in complete agreement with this take on R*. I wish they didn't do so much milking of their two previous games, but if the next entries are also incredible, can't be too upset.

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Amazon Xbox Digital Game Sale: Save Up To 90% Off

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Claim NBA 2K21 for FREE until May 27

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