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at this point, its just so odd.
yes, this showcase was one of the better ones, but how in the hell do you close it out with the 600 money console and 2 others lol who signed off of this.
like the amount of bs coming from phil and the other one is just .. i cant.
also, did you notice that all of the xbox exclusives are on gamepass day one? like all of them haha how do they even make money off of them.
that being said, why are there always interviews after their shows haha. and the ign livestream was even sponsored by ps5 haha cant make this shit up.
"also, did you notice that all of the xbox exclusives are on gamepass day one? like all of them haha how do they even make money off of them."
By making them available at full price on other platforms like PS5 and PC (those who refuse to use anything else other than Steam)
isnt gamepass on pc too tho?
and some.of the games havent been confirmed for ps5 either xD the exclusive ones i mean.
@ Gold Drake
yes game passes on PC and it's actually very affordable since you don't actually have to pay any money.
With all the recent shenanigans by both platforms I'm convinced I do not need to buy another console. I just need to buy a powerful enough PC to run these games once and I'm all set for the next two or three generations. I wasn't sure with PlayStation but they pretty much made it pretty clear that they're going to release all of their games on PC eventually and maybe you have to wait a couple of years but with the number of games that you can get a high quality and the huge backlog people have including myself there's just no need to be so concerned about missing out.
I've noticed they investing in games to be on gamepass making no money still trying gain new members and its not working. While ps investing in games from asia countries to bring to us.
yeh its quite odd. cause im sure people would have bought games like cod and indiana jones.
oh well.
I mean its clear what they are doing. Right now Xbox still has quite some hardcore fans that you can actually sell an overpriced console to. That won't be possible in a few years, so that's what they will be doing for now.
Yeah, they both might buy the $600 box, but it won't change anything for Xbox as a whole.
Why worry about the trillion dollar company, they obviously have a plan that they are comfortable with, let's say that plan fails (I don't think so but) OK so they cancel GP bc they lost lets say billions= M$ will be just fine. In the meantime we(GP members) benefit= I've been gaming 30+ yrs I've never played so many great games for so little money. Save me the conspiracy stories, Ive been gaming too long, gaming evolves but never dies, devs & new devs come & go, there will always be gamers, so there will always be too much money to be made WITH OR WITHOUT M$, Sony or Nintendo; So it's simply crazy to me how any consumer argues against a company offering easily the most consumer friendly *OPTION in the history of gaming.
Agree, I don't understand why people are worried about how MS or Sony are making money? Like is it your dads company or what? They don't give a damn about you and neither should you.
I must however say, to keep people subscribed to GP, a steady flow of new games must come at all times and it shows that MS games lack the quality that Sony puts out because their games are probably rushed out.
Another thing is that you don't own your games. So the day you cancel your subscription, bye bye games.
this is a forum where people post their opinions.
but im glad ur so zen u dont think about these things.
thourghly agree, im a ps fan but still, i've always said, if you play loads of games, then gp is a good deal. its just for some who only play a couple a year, its not, so the option to buy physical should not go away, however good the deal is , for some.,
Wow 4show,
That was an absolute spot on comment...I agree with it 1000 percent.
By:
1. Hiking up the price of GP
2. Releasing the game on competing consoles
3. Hoping the investors don't notice
I can explain it.
Black Ops is 300GB. Lmao nuff said
If MS were smart they'd bundle BO6 with the new pricier more Storage consoles. The OG S simply don't have enough space. BO6 would be the only AAA current gen game youd have on the drive. So duh more storage is a must for the back half of the gen.The $600 X again duh, the regular X is $450 add another TB for $150 extra
Don't worry how they make money, enjoy the cheap offering you worried about the wrong thing
Umm people have questions after such a big showcase, why wouldnt you do an interview?
Not making a dozen promises 24/7 only to contradict himself a couple of months later.
Sure... a dozen promises....he's doing so terrible...what will we ever do...
Or maybe you're still recovering from the showcase.
Hello- This time last year MS had a good showcase and it was hailed as the thing that would turn Xbox around. A year later, Xbox console sales are dead, GP subscription growth is stagnant and MS exclusives are going multiplatform. Yeah everyone is shook by their showcase.
At the end of the day those metrics are only politics, possibly not all accurate, and have zero affect on how much we enjoy our consoles, with Phil saying Xbox now has more users than ever before in this IGN interview. Sony talking points that try to say "Sony sells more, must be the best" even though the platform is completely boring atm
Ill be enjoying playing all these games for a small subscription price...which Sony can't afford to replicate on PS plus...while you beg for a single game to release for 70$.
I don't know why there's so many Xbox fans out there convinced that somehow the games shown on this Xbox showcase is a jab towards PlayStation. The majority of games shown are coming to Playstation for sure and including Xboxes recently purchased first party those are probably also coming to Playstation at some point which is hilarious. Because this basically means that we are now convinced that if you do like console gaming the better option is to buy a PlayStation. It's inevitable that these games will come out on more platforms because they cannot make enough money off of Game pass to cover the costs of these games so they have to release it on more platforms. Right now it's a standard that they release it on PC so going for PC only is also a good option since both consoles will be releasing their games but if you are just a stickler for console gaming then PlayStation is probably the go to place because eventually all of the Xbox games will make their way to playstation. And this isn't cope since I don't have a dog in the fight.
Sony needs To step up and communicate with us like Xbox does. Look at their recent showcase and look at ours…its a joke. You can knock xbox all you want but they have a plan while us ps5 owners are left playing 3rd party titles and left wondering whats coming from first party.
I prefer 5 3rd party exclusives out this year on PS5 over only Hellblade 2 so far on Xbox.
They're waiting for the Pro reveal. If they save all their heaviest hitters for that, everyone will want the Pro. They also forced Microsoft's hand by having them reveal all theirs first, and by the time the Pro reveal drops, MS will be out of the news cycle.
Frosty,
Wow, killer strategy Sony!! Amazing, such a methodical plan!
It has nothing to do with their awful Gaas push, forcing studios to make games they didn't want to, only later to back track and cancel the biggest one(factions), then scale back the number of them being released, and start all over again. Then while all this is happening, fire the president (resigned my ass), and now have two presidents that are working on cleaning up the shit show.
Nah, that can't be it right? it's the master plan that they have been plotting and waiting for the right moment to strike for years now.....now just wait 1 more year...damn Sony how diabolical of you...I should have known.
If Sony doesn’t speak up like Xbox, will Sony stop selling 5 PS5s for every 1 Xbox? These interviews only matter to enthusiasts who are already locked into ecosystems. They don’t affect sales. Same is true for the showcases. Normal people don’t take time out of their day to watch 45 minutes of game trailers.
If anything too much communicating Sony would of shot themselves in the foot like Phil and MS has. Well PS still got lots of console exclusives and this past year has been good. Still on top of stuff that's not announced yet there's still good games coming such as Lost Soul Aside , Astrobot and Phantom Blade 0 at least by 2025. FF7,Granblue Fantasy, Rise of Ronin, Helldivers 2 and Stellar Blade this year so far I'm happy.
While I feel that the [predominantly PlayStation fanboy] crowd on N4G accuse the media of Xbox bias any time they say anything even mildly positive about Xbox or anything even mildly negative about Sony and/or PlayStation, in this case, I have to agree with you. I mean, Ryan may as well have started making out with Phil right there on the stage with the way he immediately started showering him with so much undeserved praise. The showcase was good, but Phil’s track record isn’t.
Phil is all but saying Xbox is as important to Microsoft Game Studios as Surface laptops are to Microsoft Windows and Office. I would say it’s a crappy job to have but he probably makes more in a year that I’ll make in a lifetime.
"In the end, I've said over and over, I have to run a sustainable business inside the company and grow, and that means sometimes I have to make hard decisions that frankly are not decisions I love, but decisions that somebody needs to go make." Let me remind this shit bag and his lap dog cunt Sarah Bond, "Microsoft has a net worth of $3.18 trillion" Phil is just a disgrace to the game industry period I have no respect for people like this.
Health of the Xbox is it’s on life support since MS is essentially a multi-platform company. No need to add an Xbox when most of the games are available elsewhere
I like when Spencer said : "We are going to support the game on other screens. And you are going to see more of our games on more platforms, and we just see that as a benefit to the franchises that we're building. And we see that from players and the players love to be able to play."
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Phil Spencer confirms that more Xbox games will be available on new platforms during a new interview after Xbox Showcase.
That last article where everyone is having a baby over a showcase is ridiculous because the Xbox showcase was really a multiplat showcase...
@Eonjay
I think people are just happy that they gave us something to be excited about. It being multiplatform stuff makes it even easier to rejoice as everyone gets to enjoy it. This show was really what Summerfest should have been, just with less of an xbox focus obviously.
These shows are fun to watch because we get to be excited about new games.
With that said, I imagine Perfect Dark, South of Midnight and perhaps state of decay 1-3 would be possible candidates for ps5. Doom might also be a given. They didn't really try to hammer home its exclusivity.
@MrBaskerville
Totally agree. I did enjoy SGF though unlike the majority. My personal taste is more eclectic than most. I found stuff at each show to enjoy.
Eon
Come on man, yes it’s multi but as a PS5 and switch owner i enjoyed the show yesterday far more than i did with State of Play.
Most announcements came from nowhere to me, and MGS was a massive surprise to finally see some gameplay.
I’m excited to play some of the games on PS5 one day!
Like i said earlier credit where credit is due.
@Eon
That’s something i have to get used to. I have to see it more like when Ubisoft does their showcase vs Days of Play or Nintendo Direct.
I wished some of these games stayed exclusive. Make it seem like my Series X was a more worthwhile purchase. I use it more for backwards compatibility now so it’s not entirely bad.
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Elder Scrolls 6 for PS5, please. Also I'd like the Forza franchise, I owned all four of the OG motorsport titles and FM4 is still one of, if not my favourite racing game ever.
NO. This can’t be true. The Xbox influencers on X/Twitter & YouTube who got angry at Phil Spencer then forgave him, guaranteed no other Microsoft games would come to PS5.
@ColtEastwood
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@MrMattyPlays
@RyanMcCaffrey
@VenomUK
I have seen that colteastwood on x. If you look ul embarrassment in the dictionary a picture of him as a example would be there.
I think people deservidly give obscure a bashing on here. But Colteastwood makes Obscure look like a PS5 cultist haha.
Why forget Sunset Overdrive?
Also there are older titles like Dead Rising 3 and Ryse Son of Rome.
Single-player Bethesda games usually gets better over time with future patches and DLCs
Satya Nadella wants that PlayStation's money, Phil Spinster now is as relevant as MySpace
Phil Spencer (February 15th 2024):
"Looking forward so 4 games no promise beyond that, so if you're on those other platforms and you see these four games coming please don't take it as some signal that everything is coming, it's not."
Phill Spencer (June 9th 2024)
'Our commitment to our Xbox customers is you're going to get the opportunity to buy or subscribe to the game, we're going to support the game on other screens. And you are going to see more of our games on more platforms and we just see that as benefit that the franchises we're building and we see that from players and the players love to be able to play'
I won't be buying any Xbox games anyway, Not going to subsidize their vision of changing gaming industry into streaming everything via a netflix subscription and they are the only choice. Remember when it comes to Microsoft "It's us or no one" You can't complain after they have taken over either.
Especially when they "give" it to Xbox users and expect playstation users to pay full price for it. Like second class citizens.
Ironmike
He will be missed, if he wasn't going to be missed Microsoft wouldn't be putting the games on PlayStation.
Make up your mind xbox guys, do you want to brag about Sea of Thieves success on PlayStation or do you want to cry about all your games going to PlayStation?
So, the benefit of having an Xbox is the option of a subscription service that's more like a buffet and not a deluxe plate. By staying loyal to Xbox means day 1 "free" games of your choice. Xbox is a service.
If rumors are true Xbox is going the 3DO route, Xbox is basically a PC. I mean, since PlayStation caved and started using off the shelf parts to "make it easier on developers", which is a croc as were how far into this console generation and the only devs to really support PS5, kind of, is Insomniac, San Diego, and Santa Monica and we've seen nothing from other devs. PS4 was supposed to be easier so PS5 would be even easier, right? But what've we really seen from Sony first party when it comes to PS5 games? Nothing, they're all still possible on PS4. Xbox? Same thing. Hi-Fi Rush was possible on at least Xbox One X (another lie from Xbox with No one gets left behind). Wow
The original comment still stands, as long as they withold one or two series of games on xbox. Most could come but that still wouldn't mean that you could expect every game to arrive.
I suspect they want people to speculate, because then you don't know whether you should wait for a ps5 port or buy an xbox. Every game is Schroedingers exclusive.
The interpretation of his first comment is not to expect more than these 4 games. The interpretation of the second comment is not to expect any game to be exclusive to Xbox.
His communication is all over the place. The fact that we can't decipher what he means is what people are complaing about. He should simply say, games are coming to PlayStation but we don't have a set policy that applies to all titles. Sometimes less is more.
You can go back further to last year’s Kinda Funny interview with Phil. Microsoft has been slowly getting the Xbox user base ready for this. It’s like the parable about putting a frog into a pot of water and slowly turning up the heat. We will be at boiling when Halo comes to PlayStation.
thats what i mean when i say hes a big bullshitter, girl doesnt rly know what hes talking about.
@purple lol that was a nice 720 doughnut, spin around for a month only to turn his back after the heat died down a bit
There’s this small part of me which wants to think that the reason for Sony being so calm lately, especially after Microsoft’s showcase, is because they know this themselves, and they could know more than what’s being said publicly.
But, Lego Horizon is on the Switch. Why is Nintendo the only comfortable one here. They're not even on PC
Stupid take. The Lego game has been made by a Lego studio with advice on the IP from guerilla games. So part of the negotiations/requirements to make it happen will clearly have been done kind of multiplatform release.
That Lego game definitely exists to get kids to want to buy the proper Horizon games on PS5/PS4 (plus the multiplayer game). It's basically a giant advertisement. And kids love the Switch.
nintendo is comfortable because their first party games sell in the tens of millions.
Sony gives them the PS5's development kit so they know exactly which studios are making games for their consoles, or at least they can make an estimate based on the number of kits requested.
People just loves to talk but in a couple of days this showcase will be already forgotten, and by the way 90% of the stuff shown is multiplatform.
If they wanted xbox cash they would allow gamepass on PlayStation 5
Or just let microsoft buy sony as they could without any issues to there bottom line.
@hof
Are you still in your pre 2010 bubble?
Microsoft is a trillion dollar company without playstation sony would have gone bankrupt years ago that is just facts.
Microsoft q1 2024 made 23.3 billion
https://www.theverge.com/20...
sony all of last year without buying a entire company remember q1 2024 for mircosoft as in spring so sony all 12months made 85 billion.
https://www.macrotrends.net...
Microsoft after buying various companies including acrtivison made 212 billion for 2023
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Sony has not made any big purchases were Microsoft continues to do so in the ai space and gaming space even in the military.
So yes microsoft could easily buy sony and not bat a eye.
Their bottom line is irrelevant a Japanese company like Sony is not going to sell out to an American one so you can go ahead and let that little dream die. Kind of ridiculous to make comment such as yours in an article about the fact more xbox games are coming to other consoles, so who is it that's really hurting for cash here? It's rhetorical you don't have to answer, everyone already knows the answer.
@romulus23
Hurting for cash? blinder on maximum
There doing this to make more cash like the court leak that showed ms wanted gamepass on PlayStation to expand its customer base its all about making more cash.
Right now they are losing out on the full pie by having it on the playstation store but if they buy sony then ms get's 100% of the sale.
Also a japan company not being owned by america? LOL you really do not know what happened after the 40's do you
Or want happened to Toshiba recently
If they toss a bag of billions at sony japan they will accept it
It seems the idea is to have other platforms(PS and PC) offset the cost of game pass.
Xbox users get the games on game pass while others pay full price.
Gamepass seems to be Xbox's idea of "exclusive".
These guys are so inconsistent with their messaging. It's difficult to know exactly what they want to do with their games. I've stopped caring. I just focus on the games.
This. When I saw day one on gamepass for every game I asked myself how will they make money? Answer: release on PS5 and get your sales from there and if lucky leople will sub on PC and XBOX. To ensure consistent subscriptions, space out the games. Either way MS has well and truly effed itself and Phil is a snake standing there pretending they all exclusives.
It doesn't make any sense. I'll readily admit that Lego Horizon on the Switch is messed up.
I see it this way. Gamers are upset for Xbox for going multiplatform, PlayStation has been looking at PC, The Show ended up on Xbox and Switch and neither Xbox nor Nintendo stood up for the industry to say "look, that's not how we do business here. That's up to Sony and we respect that because we see it the same way." And maybe Spencer was that desperate for something quality with a reputation to dig himself out of the hole he got himself into. So there's all this stress and strain but, nobody, not gamers nor publishers noticed little ol Nintendo sitting in the shaded and shadowed corner, like Nintendo didn't seem like much of a threat so everyone saw it as the safe fallback to seem unbiased or like they had blinders. But, Sonys releasing on PC with two games on the Switch now and Xbox is going more and more multiplatform every day. But again, why on the Switch and not on Xbox? Why bother going one way? Because Nintendo agreed to a Zelda movie deal? I think everyone's underestimated what Nintendo is really up to. Nintendo is the ONLY console manufacturer who is solely on Nintendo hardware and has always been so. Nintendo Switch is closing in on the PlayStation 2 hardware overall sales and Nintendo is that close and if they can keep the Switch around long enough, will claim lifetime sales and then announce the Switch 2.
Ya gotta admit that a console that has really limited games where the story is always the same with very few IPs is doing that well..... Why? And now, it's neutral ground for PlayStation and Xbox? What sense does that make? Is PlayStation sore over the fact of Activision? Phil Spencer basically lied under oath (not that an oath actually means anything these days, especially for a business man that someone's found a way to justify the lie and his integrity by saying it was an ignorant omission or something like that, it's Washington State, what more would you expect) but, it's odd. Nintendo is sitting nice and comfy..... It's suspicious
Zelda on 3DO, Mario on PC... you are just too young to remember. Probably too young to remember Nintendo ports to Nvidia Shield TV too.
Also, you dont think that means Diablo, Call of Duty 6, Doom, Elder Scrolls Online, the stuff that's already usually on the hardware?
Hold up! What happened to "xbox doesn't have any good games argument"? I'm all for more games going to other platforms. Microsoft had a great showcase of games yesterday. Even the hardest sony fans had to admit it. Good job Phil.
Well the thing is.....they hardly had any. For 10+ years the whole of the Xbox one gen they failed to bring great games. So they bought a bunch of publishers that had established franchises and now they have great IP's.
I disagree. Microsoft has always had good games in my opinion. It's all a matter of opinion. Yes, they did buy some studios but so have sony. Who cares. I just want good games on my console regardless of where they come from.
Well what happened is they bought other studios that had the good games. As long as MS doesn't get too involved with those games they should turn out good.
Basically they bought their way to successful IP. You give me the same amount of money and even I can own these devs and say I make good games.
But the funny thing is you say what happened...someone tells you and then you say you disagree. Very dishonest of you
I disagreed about them not having great games. Of course they bought studios just like Sony has bought studios. It's been happening throughout the industry for a long time now. It's not that big of a deal to me. Devs need publishers and vice versa. These huge AAA games are very expensive to make nowadays. You guys can't be mad at Microsoft because they didn't force anyone into those purchases. Let's not forget sony has used their money to do similar things. They bought columbia pictures and made some big purchases too. Yea, I know it's not gaming but they don't get a pass because it's basically the same thing just a different industry.
I mean they did have to buy up multiple publishers with some of the top games out there on consoles. Throw in a good 4 to 6 studios as well and bam. Far as saying Ms has no good games. The game show showed the future. It's still slim pickins as of right now what's playable.
Ms purchased two publishers with extremely good selling ips. Stop the bs dog.
Funny on X. Last night lots of Xbox fans where rejoicing about the amazing showcase. Some of the same ones that where rejoicing are now angry at Phill for saying this. I completely understand why though.
So many have not realized xbox is just the new sega but these "fans" were not around for the days after dreamcast.
I remember 2001 and 2002. There are many similarities the only difference is XBOX is drawing it out and not being direct about it. Sega pulled off the plaster and immediately took the plunge. And today Sega is thriving.
@hof
For real?
Sega has shutdown there entire arcade centers in japan only made profit from recent sonic ip and has had bad games launches back to back.
There gambling rooms have kept there light's on
https://techraptor.net/gami...
46 billion yen every quater is only 292 million with game budgets/staff they are not thriving but surviving.
There sales drop 70% in 2020 also
https://www.tweaktown.com/n...
Thanks Phil for putting even more game on Playstation. I'll support you and buy them on Playstation lol cheers
it was a shock but some clung to the copium that it was only going to be 4 games.........c'mon now, the trajectory was clear to those reading the room. MS can make more moola putting their games everywhere like sony potentially could but sony's priority is the hardware and its customers in contrast to xbox who don't mind putting their priorities elsewhere.
We'll see. I think he's referring to Doom Dark Ages, Elder Scrolls Online, Call of Duty 6. Doubt it's Forza, Halo, Fable, Gears of War or anything that's gonna still move some Xbox hardware. Once Xbox moves those, Xbox fans will ditch Xbox so they can't go THAT far
I follow a guy called Tom Warren I believe his name is on X. Now I always take rumours with a heavy dose of salt especially when it comes to X. However, He has revealed a lot of stuff in the few months I have paid attention to him. I think he was the first or one of the first to leak that Microsoft was bringing a few first party titles to Playstation and even revealed the 4 games hours before the xbox business update.
Pretty much revealed Gears was being revealed at the showcase (he did say gears 6 though) as well as doom and fable a day or so before the showcase.
He has said over the last few weeks about this Project Latitude. A internal code of IP's Microsoft are releasing on other platforms. Recently he has said Age of Empires 2 Definitive is targeted to release on PS5 in early 2025. Age of matholgy at some point and apparently Halo CE Remaster to release on ps5. As well as previously saying Gears of war (didn't say if it's the nearly announced E-Day or a collection of the older titles are in consideration.
Again I take these rumours with plenty of salt. But he seems reliable
Either way I will take Gears. Im actually hoping it will be a collection of the first three games, I can wait for Emergence Day.
I'd take Gears 1and 2, Halo Reach, Banjo Kazooie, and any other old Rare game they feel like throwing around.
i thought it was four and no more
know phil suddenly wants to bring every xbox exclusive to playstation
So let’s say those four surprisingly made them a few dollars. Is it unreasonable to go back to the drawing board afterwards and bring more games over?
95% of games are on both consoles. A few more aren't gonna really matter. These are business decisions. Nothing more. Sony is slowly doing similar things. Some gamers won't like it but it's the way the industry is headed.
Just because they are doing multiplat, that doesn’t mean all games. I wouldn’t be surprised if a majority of the games showed were delayed or not multiplat at all.
only one game I wont mind playing,and that is one of the gears of war. The rest I have no interest in.
Imagine being able to go on nintendo eshop, download fable 1 but the enhanced 360 version, fable 2 lol that would be dope, fable on the go hell yeah
If it is about making money then MS should put the games on as many platforms as possible as it is clear the Xbox base is too small and Gamepass is not growing at the pace they anticipated, so getting your games in more gamers hands is a good thing to me. MS should stop dancing around this and just rip the band-aid off.
I don’t think Perfect Dark will come to PlayStation and if it does it’ll be a year wait at least. Even Xbox understands the necessity to have some must play exclusives on their platform. Whether it’s Elder Scrolls, Gears, or Perfect Dark, timed exclusives in the least bit I’m betting one or more will remain exclusive.
You don't drop 80 billion+ on a bunch of studios and games just to wall them off on your own console that is not selling as well. If Microsoft wants to make the big money they would be better off focusing on the SOFTware part of their business.
100% agree with you. People on here used the same argument but the other way around when they bought Bethesda and Activision. They ain't going to spend $80billion on these publishers just to put them on all platforms.
It's true that Microsoft probably hoped that getting these big publishers would lead to 100+ million gamepass subs each month. Since that ain't happed they need them other platforms.
Interview with Isabella Inchbald, Actress for (Indika) in Indika which is an emotional, thought provoking journey through a nun's tale in questioning her religion.
I know amazon is probably working on their own but it would be cool if they added xcloud support to their firestick.
This is so cool.
When xcloud will have every gamepass available, there won't be any need for me to buy an Xbox at all.
Thanx Microsoft.
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I would definitely get this if it was real and fairly priced.