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Yakuza: Like a Dragon Runs at 900p On Xbox Series S and 1440p On Series X In 60 FPS Mode

Sega has confirmed the resolution and frame rate of Yakuza: Like a Dragon for Xbox Series S and Series X in a new stream that was held today.

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MadLad1305d ago

We shouldn't be talking about sub 1080p in 2020.

LordoftheCritics1304d ago

Yup Series S needs to get deleted.

LOGICWINS1304d ago

https://gamingbolt.com/judg...

Or maybe we should be criticizing RGG studio. Judgement came out last year and ran at 900p on the PS4....despite Yakuza 0 and Kiwami running at 1080p. Just because RGG can’t properly optimize their games doesn’t mean that the Series S isn’t capable of 1080p.

SpadeX1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Uh, no. It's perfectly fine where it's at: An affordable, less powerful yet compact console. Anyone getting it isn't and shouldn't be expecting top-tier graphics/performance. Personally, I'll get this over the Series X mainly for Game Pass while PS5 remains my main console.

MadLad1304d ago

Series S is a low priced console that can ease people into next gen.

I blame the port.
There's no real reason the game should be running that poorly. The S is a weaker system, but it should have no issue running a current title at 1080p.

UltraNova1304d ago

This is unacceptable both for the Dev who optimised the game and the series S as next gen console.

SpadeX1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

"The S is a weaker system, but it should have no issue running a current title at 1080p."

And you know this how exactly? Do you somehow know how large the game is or how much details were put into the game? Have you worked on the game yourself?

Resolution isn't a standard and will never be, it fully depends on the game and how much graphics hungry it is. You'll always be seeing lower resolutions in games no matter what generation we'll be in, simply because as game development becomes more complex over time, and new technologies are applied to games, you're bound to see hardware limitations come into consideration in a way or another. Especially with power-consuming technologies such as ray-tracing being the current trend in future games, this makes it even more difficult to aim for higher resolution with higher fps.

Best example is right there in front of you, Series X isn't running the game at 4k/60 despite all the claims of how powerful the console is and it running 4k/60 in all games.

potatoseal1304d ago

@ TEdCruz

"ease people into next gen."

Do you realise how ridiculous you sound? Oh the waters of next gen are very hot you might want to ease yourself in just in case you get your toes burnt.

Oh Next Gen is so scary, I just want to go in a little bit at a time. I want to ease myself in, just bit by bit. Just until I can handle all that power. Slow and steady wins the race.

LMAO

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dcbronco1304d ago

Hey, Seal. I'm pretty sure they meant ease into the cost of next generation. Not the power of the system.

Christopher1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

@ColeMcGrath: I'm not paying $300 for sub-1080p in 2020. I paid close to that seven years ago already. Admittedly, though, the problem here is more about the developers.

Edit: heck, I paid less than that for 4k two years ago.

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SpadeX1304d ago

@Christopher

Read my second comment to better understand why you're mistaken. Resolution shouldn't be treated as a standard to generalize all games.

bouzebbal1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Logic
Even 1080p is ridiculous by today's standards.. PS3 and wiiu are capable of 1080p.. You can't defend a next gen console by saying it can output 1080p..it's ridiculous

343_Guilty_Spark1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Again very close minded to think the only people who game are adults. I would not buy a $400-$500 consoles for a child that primarily plays media content on a 1080p screen. Children are not concerned with Uber framerate a and bleeding edge resolution. So when someone mention ease gamers into the next gen maybe consider many people still don't want or need a 4K tv.

Christopher1304d ago

@ColeMacGrath: ***Resolution isn't a standard and will never be, it fully depends on the game and how much graphics hungry it is. You'll always be seeing lower resolutions in games no matter what generation we'll be in***

Not only is that cop-out, it's wrong.

The *only* reason we're not experiencing the generational leap we normally do is because of mid-gen hardware. Otherwise, resolution would absolutely would be a more defined standard.

480 -> 640 -> 720 -> 900/1080 -> 1440/4k

Resolution absolutely matters, and saying otherwise is just lying to yourself. It's the building block of everything rendered in-engine.

https://graphinesoftware.co...

Resolution is so important that utilizing 8k textures can result in greatly reduced AA and similar effects done on the fly.

Ju1304d ago

If you don't want to spend $400 on a console for a child, why does the SSD matter? If that's your main objective, get a PS4 for $200 (you'll find those on special everywhere). Look the same and play the same in a child's view.

SpadeX1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

@Christopher

Why are you saying all that as if I mentioned anywhere that resolution doesn't matter? I was saying it shouldn't be stated as a standard when talking about games in consoles, I could literally downgrade all textures/shaders/anti-aliasig of any game to the lowest settings on PC in order to achieve 1080p with 60fps. The result will be a terribly looking game that runs smooth, definitely not what people want now, correct? People expect the Series S to achieve 1080p or higher while also implementing ray-tracing and having medium to high settings of textures/shaders/etc. That's what I'm trying to tackle here.

And all this talk about lower end consoles driving back the games fidelity or "generational leap"is all nothing but utter BS. You could literally adjust the games settings on PC however you want, does that mean PC games shouldn't allow you to set low or medium settings or choose any resolution below 1440p as that would be driving other games back from that "generational leap" ? Ridiculous.

S2Killinit1304d ago

Series S cant “ease you into next gen” when its not a next gen console...

morganfell1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

"If you don't want to spend $400 on a console for a child, why does the SSD matter? If that's your main objective, get a PS4 for $200 (you'll find those on special everywhere). Look the same and play the same in a child's view."

There is no way around this statement. You simply cannot buck the logic. It is time that people using the cost for a child excuse remove that arrow from their quiver. It isn't going to fly anymore.

The last time I looked, 900p would get you crucified by certain people in this generation. Now it is okay for the next one? Have you forgotten the non-stop raving by certain people about 4K when the Xbox One X was announced? It was at the level of being fanatical. And let us not forget the 12TF 24/7 4K is the future drumbeat from the same people. Now those same people are promoting 900p. Do we need to go dig up those posts? You might be better off turning down the volume and walking away.

P_Bomb1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

“Why was there no outrage for a 900p PS4 exclusive from the SAME studio in 2019, but it’s suddenly a problem when that studio makes a 900p game for the Series S in 2020?”

Judgment *is* 1080p on PS4 Pro. Your own link says so. The issue is 2020 tech running at a 2013 pace.

Christopher1304d ago

***And all this talk about lower end consoles driving back the games fidelity or "generational leap"is all nothing but utter BS.***

https://www.gamesradar.com/...

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Hakuoro1304d ago

Christopher

"Resolution absolutely matters, and saying otherwise is just lying to yourself. It's the building block of everything rendered in-engine."

Are you joking... I mean normally I would agree with making fun of series s not being able to even play the game in 1080p. But this statement is so ridiculous even I can't agree with you... So you're saying that Minecraft or some other pixel graphics indie that runs in 4k look better than the Last of Us 2 just because it's in 4k and TLOU 2 is in 1080p or 1440p?

Textures and lighting and and so many other things make a game look good... congratulations you said something negative towards xbox that even I couldn't agree with, that's pretty rare.

Resolution may be the building block but I but i'd like to see you build a house with just one brick...

ziggurcat1304d ago

@hakuoro:

"So you're saying that Minecraft or some other pixel graphics indie that runs in 4k look better than the Last of Us 2 just because it's in 4k and TLOU 2 is in 1080p or 1440p?"

Resolution and graphics are two different things.

CaptainHenry9161304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

@343

Everything you say never makes sense. 🤪

tontontam01304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Believe it or not, MS target audience for the series s are the millions of xbox users who have no idea about tech.

You'd be surprised how many misinformed xbox gamers thinks that they are playing at 4k on their xbox one s, they even think that that they own the most powerful console despite only owning the xbox one s.

ms marketing strategy is adopting nvidia's strategy ,produce the "most powerful for the enthusiast", then every idiot will think that every model they make is the most powerful.

SpadeX1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

@Christopher
Don't take things too literally from developers, especially ones who would throw out excuses such as "min spec matters" to not optimize games for the Series S.

Read this article to understand why:
https://www.theverge.com/20...

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LOGICWINS1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Why was Judgement at 900p just ONE year ago on the PS4 acceptable, but it’s suddenly a problem one year later on the Series S? #KeepTheSameEnergy

EDIT: I see disagrees...but no rebuttals. Why was there no outrage for a 900p PS4 exclusive from the SAME studio in 2019, but it’s suddenly a problem when that studio makes a 900p game for the Series S in 2020?

“Isn't the series s a 'next gen' console?”

It is...so why not put the blame on RGG for not taking full advantage of its capabilities? They’ve pulled this garbage on gamers twice and its being disregarded for the sake of fanboy ammo.

NEXUS-61304d ago

Isn't the series s a 'next gen' console?

#keepthelogiclogical

Bathyj1304d ago

Oh Logic. Man. You just jumped you shark.

If you want the budget next gen console compared to the 10 year old hardware of the current Gen console that's fine.

I bet you won't find a game for a while but on Series S that looks better than Last of Us 2, Ghost of Tsushima, God of War or Spider-man running on that old old hardware.

LOGICWINS1304d ago

@Bathyj You’re deflecting. No one that frequents this site on a regular basis will use the Series S as their primary console. It’s clearly intended for casual gamers that don’t have 4KTVs.....and you know that.

The real issue at hand is RGG studios not properly optimizing their games.

patriz4201304d ago

Series S is nothing more then a Gimp.
Series X 4TF in disguise, games built around 4TF and 8TF left for resolution and fps
Ps5 exclusives will blow minds with a solid 10TF across the board...I'm aware its not all TF but seriously think about it, it has to be the same game across the xbox platforms. How can u solidly defend that games will not be held back with 4 TF when the base series max is 4 lol They cant change the AI complexity in one not the other. Keep the graphics..keep the world sizes...its all based on 4TF right? So I'm confused of this power narrative when Xbox itself will be actively holding it back. I'd appreciate if someone could explain this for me?

NEXUS-61304d ago

Maybe they're having trouble developing for it - just look at 343i and what they managed with halo running on a PC. If a 1st party is having trouble, what hope does a 3rd party have?

I think people were happy with how judgement looked, it is old hardware at the end of the day. The resolution talk at the start of the gen was because one console was significantly cheaper and more powerful.

Bathyj1304d ago

I'm deflecting, and you're rationalising, apologising and just basically making excuses. 900p? 900p? That's acceptable to you? You excuse it by comparing it to the base PS4 saying if we're not happy with 900p on series s we should have been unhappy with 900p on PS4 like that's even the same thing?

Mate that's feeble at best, disingenuous at worst.

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potatoseal1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

OMG.... the Series S is a NEXT GEN CONSOLE..

The PS4 is last gen. It's totally different. That's the only rebuttle needed and it obliterates anything you have to say. It's funny how you blame the studio.

Weak next gen console is weak and uneccessary.

Btf_19911304d ago

Uh, PS4 was released 7 years ago. You know that, right? Series S is a 2020 "next gen" console.
And no. 4 teraflops is NOT enough for 60fps 1080p gaming. That's weaker than a 1060, or RX580

parkesy781304d ago

Its a problem because the ps4 is a 7 year old console and Xbos Series S isn't even released yet 🤦‍♂️

TheTony3161304d ago

Because the series s is much more powerful than a standard PS4

#logic

dcbronco1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Logic, it's called illogical behavior. Whenever a game doesn't hit 1080p on playstation it's lazy developers. On xbox it's weak hardware. We know RDNA 2 is twice as powerful as Vega so it should be a lot more capable than Polaris. This is a poor developer optimization.

@Bath

You're really kidding yourself if you believe last gen games will look better than Series S games. There are features available to the Series S that last gen just aren't capable of. You people really need to grow up.

@Patriz

The CPU in the S is as powerful as the one in the PS5 s o I'm sure it's AI will be as good as the PS5 AI. And as far as a solid 10TFs, the PS5 doesn't have that. It has a solid 9.2 and in games that are CPU driven the GPU may be forced to drop closer to that 9.2. Most games are GPU dependent. But there are exceptions do there won't be a solid 10.

Elda1304d ago

The series S is a next-gen console running a current-gen game at 900p is pretty head-scratching.

waverider1304d ago

its not. Its a cross gen console. nothing that runs at sub-full hd is next gen on a brand new console. This game isnt not a graphic powerhouse. Even a bad port should run at 1080p.

RgR1304d ago

Well because both machines were struggling to maintain 1080p this gen.

The issue here is that the true next gen consoles are actually of 1080p or higher but the S is not a next gen console.

Rude-ro1304d ago

@logic
The series s is the next gen core for Microsoft.
The series x will enhance the games built for the series s.

So you when you say “low budget” etc for the series s... that is what games you will be playing on the series x.
If that does not concern you... cool, but to defend after this gen? 🤔😬

343_Guilty_Spark1304d ago

@Bathyj

That must be why Fornite, Roblox, Among us and Minecraft are significantly more popular than 1 and done heavily adult themed games like TLOU2.....because of next gen graphics.

yomfweeee1304d ago

LOGICLOSES

PS4 is a 7 year old console. Are you kidding me with this question?

Christopher1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Neither are acceptable. No rebuttal required. You're absolutely right.

***It’s clearly intended for casual gamers that don’t have 4KTVs.....and you know that.***

I'd argue that anyone buying a gaming product has a 4k TV in this day and age. Especially an all-digital one, which means they are way more likely to stream content to their TV as well rather than buy it.

Chriswheeler221304d ago

Well ps4 is an underpowered console from 7 years ago. The Series S is a next gen console.

TakeTori1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

I'm sorry, but that doesn't make sense. I saw you posted a different comment further up asking why Yakuza 0 and Kiwami ran at 60fps 1080p on PS4, while judgement ran at 900p 30fps, and that you called Judgement for PS4 poorly optimised.

The reason is that those games run on very different engines. Yakuza 0 and Kiwami (+ 3, 4 and 5) run on a very old engine that used to run at 30fps on PS3 and 60fps on PS4. It's an engine designed for PS3 in the first place, and later ported to PS4 where it runs at 60fps. Kiwami 2, Yakuza 6, Judgement and now Yakuza 7 (Like a Dragon) run on the Dragon engine, which is a new custom engine designed for PS4 and next generation consoles and PC. Those games are not "poorly optimised" for PS4, they're very demanding games that are impossible to run at 60fps on those consoles without heavily downgrading the graphics. I get a few dips below 60fps once in a while playing Kiwami 2 on my GTX 1070 on high settings, and consoles try to target high graphical settings or a mix between high and medium, and PS4 and vanilla Xbox One (which you can now play Like A Dragon on) were already almost outdated when they first came out.

So, that explains it. It is weird to me that it would only run at 900p on the Series S, for sure. The reason why I dislike console gaming so much is because every game experience is locked in place. There's never any room for customising graphics or choosing smooth framerates over graphical fidelity.

Angyobangyo1304d ago

Do you really need an answer? Ok fine. There wasn’t any outrage with the PS4 version because it was current gen and by 2019 standards current generation hardware was already struggling.

The Series S is being marketed as a next gen system, you can’t argue that because that is what MS is pushing along with the Series X. Any upcoming system that offers less than 1080 @60 has no right to call itself “next generation” when that is what current gen can do.

This is the start of next gen and you expect gamers to simply accept that 900 when on MS’s own Xbox page under the Series S it proudly markets the Xbox Velocity Architecture with 120fps console gaming with anything between 1080 and 4K.

RazzerRedux1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

@LOGICWINS

You do know what a generation is and what it means, right?

@dcbronco

"And as far as a solid 10TFs, the PS5 doesn't have that. It has a solid 9.2"

Fanboyism: where simple math goes to die. Sorry, but you can repeat that lie all you want, but the formula for calculating teraflops hasn't changed because Xbox fans simply don't like it.

gravedigger1304d ago

"Why was Judgement at 900p just ONE year ago on the PS4 acceptable, but it’s suddenly a problem one year later on the Series S? #KeepTheSameEnergy

EDIT: I see disagrees...but no rebuttals. Why was there no outrage for a 900p PS4 exclusive from the SAME studio in 2019, but it’s suddenly a problem when that studio makes a 900p game for the Series S in 2020?"

XSS is a "next-gen" console, PS4 isn't. And no. 900p needs to go away in 2021 on next-gen consoles, even 1080p. Hope will XSS disappear soon.

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morganfell1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

"I see disagrees...but no rebuttals. Why was there no outrage for a 900p PS4 exclusive from the SAME studio in 2019, but it’s suddenly a problem when that studio makes a 900p game for the Series S in 2020?"

HERE IS YOUR REBUTTAL:

First of all it is a generational crossover game. Generational crossover games are often tough on the outgoing generation. One is a current gen console, the other is supposedly a next gen console. Is that so hard to understand? Apparently.

And there is no rebuttal for that undeniable fact. Current gen vs Next gen.

I can't believe you brought that up as an argument. The truth simply crushes your poor attempt to absolve a hardware manufacturer. In fact, it further indicts them. Congratulations, you just became a witness for the side you oppose.

RazzerRedux1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

@dcbronco

Teraflops are calculated using the max frequency, just as they are in every GPU that has a base and a boost clock. Amazing you still cannot figure this out.

RTX 2080

Base Clock
1515 MHz

Boost Clock
1710 MHz

FP32 (float) performance
10.07 TFLOPS

Which frequency do you think was used to calculate TF?

https://www.techpowerup.com...

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Charal1304d ago

You start to see the issue then.
You blame the port this time, but time will help you to see Serie S is the real issue behind that.

GPU power is not about resolution only, any PC player knows advanced graphical features can tank framerate without touching the resolution.

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BLizardXD1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

click bate article. a 2080 ti couldn't event run yakuza kiwami 2 at 4k 60 fps either.
1440p 50fps
https://www.overclock3d.net...

"the only way to get Yakuza Kiwami 2 to run at 60+ FPS here is to run the game with a lower resolution scale, delivering a sub-4K image. Even so, a 90% resolution scale or so should secure a steady 60FPS framerate, but to be honest, we expected a little better from this game. "

Yakuza series runs a garbage optimized engine.

Charal1304d ago

@dcbronco

RDNA2 will not miraculously make 4TF computational power behaved like 12TF.

There is no miraculous secret sauce, stop to be delusional.

Ju1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

4TF is 4TF with more efficiency. It isn't miraculously faster than a 7TF Polaris (RX590 7Tf 8GB - that's about what you'll get). And yes, it runs 1440p @ 60 just fine - with current gen games (not in Ultra, though)

lifeisgamesok1304d ago

It's also the very low and very slow ram

dcbronco1304d ago

@Charel
Point out where I said it was equal to 12 TFs. The fanboy in you is now complete. 4.2 TFs in Rdna 2 is more than equal to the 6 Yrs of One X. If you simply look at AMD's own information it pays that out clearly. One X was capable of 4k last gen. But with Ray tracing and other next generation features it will take developers a little time to learn the hardware. They just got Series S capability a couple of months ago since it's existence was just acknowledged a couple of months ago.

Charal1304d ago

@dcbronco

So you really believe what you say, that devs only knows about Serie S from a couple of months ago and are rushing game conversion on it???

Come on man, be real here. Even if the console have been revealed lately, it must be part of the Xbox dev kit since the beginning.

dcbronco1303d ago

@Charal

Most developers, yes. Series S was a part of Microsoft's strategy that only the closest partners probably knew about. I was a poorly kept secret but given the number of times Microsoft has cancelled projects just before launch I'm sure most developers didn't go on a lower spec unless they were a pc developer as well. Surface Neo was supposed to be released a couple of years ago but was cancelled a week or two before launch.

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DJStotty1304d ago

It is down to the developers what resolution there game runs at, not the console.

NEXUS-61304d ago

It's an embarrassing headline though isn't it? New console, 900p - thats gotta sting a little.

DJStotty1304d ago

Not really,

Cheaper than the switch, more powerful than the One X, plays all the same games as the Series X, built for gamers with a 1080p tv, not in context no.

Now if the headline was the Series X? then i would agree.

People are not grasping that this console which will be the cheapest on the market on November the 10th (switch is currently £279.99 UK) is going to have ray tracing and the features that will be in the Series X version, all that is different is the framerate and resolution. Now if you do not own a 4K tv, the question is why buy the Series X and waste £200?

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Charal1304d ago

You don’t have any clue that ray tracing and all other features on Serie X will be ported on serie S.

It is not because hardware is capable that it guarantees it will be usable on par with SX only by lowering resolution and/or framerate.

Devs can decide to skip using RT on serie S to favor other technical aspects.

No one here have any clue on how scale down to Serie S will be done, only guess.

It is misleading to affirm «  is going to have ray tracing and the features that will be in the Series X version», you don’t know it.

We can only be sure that this fuzzy situation will not happen on PS5, for Xbox we are in uncharted territories.

Ju1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Not more powerful than the X, guess which runs 4K? Also, only runs X1S (!) games, not the X variant, means stuck at 1080p for current gen compatible games. And also, die hard defenders. Where are you, actually buying it? Preorders were only about 5% of total.

NEXUS-61304d ago

Its a bare bones, digital only console that excepts proprietary expansion cards. And the teeny weeny SSD most makes it a certainty you'll have to buy an expansion card. Not so cheap now.

ms would kill to have it sell anywhere near switch numbers. Both series consoles combined won't break 50 million lifetime, I just can't see it happening.

morganfell1303d ago (Edited 1303d ago )

So by your logic the fact the PS1 wasn’t an HD console is the devs fault. No, just no. At a certain point developers can only work with what they are given.

MS built a low selling console that lasted a day when preorders went live. It sold a small percentage but it is now an anchor the size of Greenland. For so little MS hobbled an entire generation of exclusive and multi platform games and still you do everything to excuse them.

Christopher1303d ago

***more powerful than the One X***

You really need to stop lying like this. TFlops alone prove this to be false.

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ChiefofLoliPolice1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Get used to that with the series S.

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lazyboyblue1304d ago

Speaking as someone who's exclusively Xbox now -I completely agree - f this is going to be the level of performance going forward. 900p games and Series S is a dumpster fire.

potatoseal1304d ago

Why on earth would you decide to be excluisvely Xbox when Sony have soooo many quality exclusives and a proven track record? Is it a money issue? If so then I understand. But if it's not a money issue, then choosing to miss out on PS5 seems like the dumbest gaming idea in history.

frostypants1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

I just don't understand why the Series S is even a thing. It's such an awkward step sideways from the old One X (not Series X...terrible product naming, BTW), rather than being a definitive upgrade. Some games may actually be better on the latter, which is unacceptable.

It's like they rolled this model out purely to trick people into "upgrading" without really upgrading.

RGB1304d ago

That Series S with RAM as slow as launch PS4 RAM... :/

NotoriousWhiz1304d ago

The game supports two modes on Series S.
1440p/30fps
900p/60fps

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GamerRN1304d ago

Man I hope PS5 version looks good!

JBlaze2261304d ago

the ps5 going to be the same. its the company decision not the console.

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GamerRN1302d ago

That's kind of my point...

RpgSama1304d ago

The Series S it's a travesty of a "next-gen console", but we already knew that, why isn't anybody talking about the Series X that cannot do 4K 60fps, not only here but on Dirt 5 same thing, only "Dynamic 4K", I heard all kind of trash about the Ps5 when the games performed like that, but it's glaringly omitted from the discussion with the Series X

Ju1304d ago

...and the S is hyped up instead. Yup. In a world where TFs matter so much, we talk about glorified sub 1080p standard instead. Strange world.

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ArthriticPowers1304d ago

So what will the PS5 games run these at... be prepared. They're cross gen games, relax. Also 120fps is a massive deal for those who use it. Also yes it's dynamic res of the start line but besides that it's 4k 60 which is fine. Visually it's meh... but it's Dirt remember.

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DJStotty1304d ago

Not for a gamer with a 1080p TV.

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yarbie10001304d ago

900P on a next-gen console. What an absolute joke

badz1491304d ago

MS love the old gens so much, they are bringing all the "features" with them to next gen

ChiefofLoliPolice1304d ago

This is the Series S. What were you expecting?

RpgSama1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Not 900p, specially when they are selling it as a "1440p 120fps" console, that's why those "up to" criteria will only work for the simplest of indie games.

Gardenia1304d ago

I don't understand Microsofts decision for the Series S. In the upcoming 5-6 years, every game that will come out for the Xbox has to work for the Series S. This will hold back a lot of developing of games and might not even be fixed with a simple 900p resolution.

agnosticgamer1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

It's entry-level to Next-Gen games... Not a premium console... It's only $299 what do you expect? This is mainly for people who don't have 4K/120hz capable TVs that would get absolutely nothing if the game even ran at 4K.

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FlavorLav011304d ago

Maybe acceptable if this was their 120fps mode, but we’re talking base 60fps mode....900p? Next-gen power my a$$

ChiefofLoliPolice1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

You surprised?...

Deathdeliverer1304d ago

Can’t blame anyone for feeling led astray on this one if they preordered a series S because the X was sold out. The commercials make them seem on Par with one another. Hope casuals do their research or ask someone that does. Like I said before preorders even started. It’s Series X, or nothin.

Ausbo1304d ago

Who in their right mind thinks two machines that are $200 apart are on par.

Charal1304d ago

All the casual gamers not spending their life on N4G, that candidly believe in MS PR on store sellers that need to sell their serie S stocks.

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RgR1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

Umm...maybe not 200$ but the playstation 5 has two consoles 100$ apart and they are on par.

The Series S should be like $300 apart or more

Ju1304d ago (Edited 1304d ago )

1 out of 5 right here. LOL Not shocked

SullysCigar1304d ago

@dcbronco...you mean *GASP*... Secret Sauce??!

Get help.

dcbronco1304d ago

@Sully

No sauce. Just design features.

Profchaos1304d ago

Anyone who listens to IGN which is casual bias city they have had videos stating the same CPU and slightly underclock you are in the series s so it's better than the ps5 just with 500gb. Seriously they are the worst misinformation spreaders in the industry I wish more people saw that claim they made

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OneLove1304d ago

Nah its a widely known thing in the states that cheaper is always that for a reason. This applies to damn near every product in the world.

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JBlaze2261304d ago

Microsoft have always been up front with the gamers unlike Sony. We knew the S was going to be inferior to the X

agnosticgamer1304d ago

lol... seemed like "on Par" did you even do any research on the difference between the specs of the system? It's pretty much for the most part a night and days difference.

Deathdeliverer1303d ago

@agnostic

I know people are from different countries and have different first languages and all... but your English reading comprehension is severely lacking. The commercials and Microsoft calling it a next gen console would throw of a CASUAL consumer. IE people that don’t DO RESEARCH. It could be misleading to THEM as the consoles are shown TOGETHER all the time and simply referred to as a digital next gen experience. Start thinking when you respond to people.

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Yakuza's Turn-Based Brawl Still Feels "Like A Disappointment" After All This Time

Fahad from eXputer: "Yakuza combat trades the series' classic brawling for menus and strategy, leaving some fans missing the beat-'em-up thrill."

isarai11d ago

It completely murdered the series for me. I love beatem ups, it's my favorite genre, always has been. The Yakuza series has always been the golden standard of that in my opinion and the annoying part is that they only went turn-based because of the reaction to a April fool's joke. Turn-based was something that I could never really get into despite trying. I wish I could get into it but it just does nothing for me and so when this game decided to go turn-based it just completely killed my favorite series which just really sucks.

Amplitude10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I finished LaD and LaD:IW and still am of the opinion that the combat is absolute trash. Just the same couple animations over and over and over and over and SO much grind to unlock each new animation for each job. Really absolutely despise the combat and the systems built around the combat - still played through them though and would definitely put IW up there as a GOTY contender. Theres soooooo much more to do outside of the combat and the storytelling has just gotten phenomenal - but god damn i wish it had the classic combat.

The_Hooligan10d ago

You don't like any turn-based games or just the turn-based gameplay in the Yakuza games? I ask because I haven't started any Yakuza games and I was going start with either 0 or Kiwami 1 because I also like beatem ups more than turn-based. Although I don't mind turn-based games such as Persona, FF series or a good JRPG.

isarai10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I don't like turn based, i tried over the years especially cause a lot of turn based JRPGs look rad af. But it's like nails on a chalkboard for me. Rare acceptions wete like pokemon and World of Final Fantasy. I actually own a copy of Persona 5 royal to try and tackle some day, but im honestly kinda afraid it's not gonna click for me either.

TheEroica9d ago

Playing yakuza 0 for the first time now. My first yakuza game ever.... Really enjoying it. Love all the little random beat em up battles and learning the systems.

CantThinkOfAUsername9d ago

Any game I'm interested in that uses a turn-based combat system gets the YouTube treatment. I tried playing turn-based many times before and I hate it with every atom of my being.

One example: regular mobs that you could have one-punched and moved on already take ages as everyone reaches their place, uses their attacks one-by-one then you get your turn and still miss with 99% so-called accuracy, yeah, I ain't sitting through all that shiz.

gold_drake9d ago

lets not pretend that yakuzas beat 'em up "battle system" was anything but basic.

thats not why ppl love the series.

isarai9d ago

That's a huge part of why the og fans loved the series, not the only reason, but certainly a big part.

neutralgamer19929d ago (Edited 9d ago )

As someone who owns yakuza like a dragon series games and have played almost all of them but ever since the went to turn base, I tried it just wasn’t for me

It really sucks because we are the fans who had been sporting the series since day one and then we are the ones left behind. And we have new fans coming in telling us how we are wrong For disliking this new change in the gameplay

isarai9d ago

This, so much this! I've completely abandoned the fanbase/community because of this. Every time i express how this killed the series for me, all the new fans start lecturing ME on how im "wrong" and how the beatem up combat was somehow terrible. So i rarely even attempt to engage anymore.

shinoff21839d ago

I've been one of those old school ps2 fans. I've yet to play the new ones. I'm getting there though. I think I'll like them but just don't know yet. Ironic though is cause I wonder how many yakuza fans who hate the turn based combat are the same ones that love ff16.

Si-Fly9d ago

So Pokemon’s combat worked for you but Like a Dragon didn’t? Is it the extra depth to the combat do you think?

isarai9d ago

Maybe? 🤷‍♂️ I always give them a shot, but if it doesn't do anything for me im not going to force myself to play a game where i don't enjoy the gameplay.

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-Foxtrot11d ago

I love the turn based battle system but I do wish they would have split the series into two franchises, the ones with Kiryu follow the classic battle system while the new ones with Ichiban do turn based combat

Least then both fans could have been happy and they could have cycled between each of them to keep things fresh.

Vits11d ago

I think that was the plan. The Yakuza series has finished ditching the old combat system with Gaiden and moving forward would go with turn-based combat. Whereas the Judgment series would keep the beat 'em up style and bring it to newer heights. But there were all those rumors about the actor from the Judgment series and his agency were not willing to renew the contract, so we might never get any new games there.

isarai10d ago

Funny thing is i think the turn based would have fit the Judgement series more as the protagonist is more of a thinking man.

shinoff218310d ago

Could always just start another one.

shinoff218310d ago

I just finished getting all the yakuzas for ps4 and ps5. I've played up till 4 on ps3 and ps2 but then there was the whole not bringing 5 to the west bs back then. Anyway since then I haven't really played so I started all the way at 0 playing/streaming and plan on working my way up. I look forward to the new ones but I'm not sure how they'll turn out yet. I do love turn based though.

Amplitude10d ago

You're in for the single greatest series of all time my man. If you've already played 3 4 and 5, maybe skip them and watch a plot synopsis. They've aged really poorly - 3 in particular

shinoff218310d ago

@amplitude

I've played it since yakuza 1 on ps2 lol. Just back during ps3 they weren't going to bring yakuza 5 west due to sales of the series(if I remember right, or maybe no physical) so I stopped. Hadn't played in years. Yea yakuza is one of my favorite series. Top notch stuff right here.

notachance10d ago

nah man let Kiryu retire in peace already, dude just can’t catch a break..

Aphrodia10d ago

I used to love using an arcade stick for these games. It's really really fun this way.

Miacosa10d ago

Pure turn-based games seem like a thing from the past when devs were trying to do something more cinematic but could not.

shinoff218310d ago

I 100 percent disagree. There's nothing wrong with turn based. I feel action games most of the time are way to over the top. Give me a turn based game any day of the week. Aside from a handful of action jrpgs like star ocean and such.

Friendlygamer9d ago

That makes no sense. There's an entire audience for strategic games, they're not worse or better

CrimsonWing6910d ago

Not for me and I’m glad they made this shift. It’s been an incredibly fun game to play and honestly one of the highlights this year for me.

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Yakuza: Like A Dragon Is The Antidote To Modern Gritty Realism

Who needs realism when you can throw a bike at a man dressed in a bin bag?

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Yakuza: Like A Dragon Has Sold 1.8 Million Copies Worldwide

SEGA and Ryu Ga Gotoku Studio have announced that Yakuza: Like A Dragon has sold 1.8 million copies worldwide.

andy85139d ago

Very good for what was was considered a niche series once. Especially as its turn based 😅 can't wait to live on Infinite Wealth for a month

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