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Was NVIDIA GeForce RTX2080Ti a 4K/60fps GPU? - 83 PC games benchmarked on 4K/Ultra Settings

DSOGaming writes: "Let's find out whether the NVIDIA RTX2080Ti was able to achieve its initial 4K/Ultra with 60fps goal these past two years in 83 PC games."

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RazzerRedux1339d ago

"These results also justify why we were describing the RTX2080Ti as a “1440/Ultra settings” GPU. "

No, it doesn't. I don't agree with the premise here. A GPU isn't a 4k/60 GPU unless it can run 4k/60 at ultra settings across some arbitrary percentage of games? That's entirely subjective. And this completely ignores the poorly optimized games such as Anthem where the human element plays a significant part in the results. Nope.....just place silly labels on the hardware anyway? lol.....you do you.

Duke191338d ago

I mean, its always going to be subjective - its trying to apply a generalized label to categorize "performance". But at what point can we also stop saying "games just aren't optimized well enough" if a card struggles with all of them at 4k/60?

I think most people just assume that this hardware should always be able to run all graphical options enabled at a smooth 4k/60 and anything less than that is the developers fucking up. Honestly I think its pretty reasonable that most newer games have surpassed what the 20x0 series should expected to handle at 4k.

crazyCoconuts1338d ago

I totally agree. I'm happy that there are ultra settings that even existing cards can't handle at 4k60. That way if I play a game years later with a new card (because I missed it or whatever), the game won't look dated because it had some headroom to shine. It's one of the benefits of PC gaming I think.

RazzerRedux1338d ago

But at what point can we also stop saying "games just aren't optimized well enough" if a card struggles with all of them at 4k/60?"

I didn't say that at all. I'm talking about specific games with known optimization issues. And this card in particular doesn't "struggle with all of them". If these guys want to say a card isn't 4k/60/Ultra because it can't run whatever percentage of games then that is a different conversation. That is not what they are doing though. They proclaiming the 2080ti to be a 1440p/60 card because of their own Ultra settings requirement. I don't buy into that.

"I think most people just assume that this hardware should always be able to run all graphical options enabled at a smooth 4k/60 and anything less than that is the developers fucking up. "

No idea why anyone would make those assumptions, but that isn't the assertion being made here at all.

"Honestly I think its pretty reasonable that most newer games have surpassed what the 20x0 series should expected to handle at 4k."

Except that isn't the case. Again, the threshold in the article is 4k/60/Ultra settings.

Tapani1338d ago

@RazzerRedux

I agree with you. Developers are not lazy or trying not to optimize games for PC. They have to do testing with multiple GPUs across the board, and they add PC ultra options on top of the games they develop for consoles as a baseline. Maybe they simply add them knowing that in the future new cards might be able to run them and at the same time devs can give options to gamers to run games 30fps/60fps/120fps/144fps etc.

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DarK-SilV1338d ago

But but the flops, PcSheepRace, the "best".

catlover3161338d ago

Who even wants to play anthem? And yes, having to play everything at ultra settings is more just the person running the benchmark being lazy.

Tapani1338d ago (Edited 1338d ago )

This guy who wrote the article should use Optimized settings per game. There's no point cranking everything up to ultra and thinking that's how the developer thought gamers should play the game. For example RTX2080ti with optimized settings for SOTR runs 4K native 70fps+ all the time and you can't really see any difference between "ultra" and "optimized" unless you zoom in 200-300% and start making comparisons. Who does that if they want to game??

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waverider1339d ago

The problem isnt the card. Are the ports of the games and the millions of pc combinations. A gpu with 13.5 or 14 teraflops should do 4k without any problem. The lack of optimization is also a Huge deal. Using a card like this to play at 1440p even on ultra settings.... 14 teraflops... For me is just crazy.

catlover3161338d ago (Edited 1338d ago )

It’s not even that, 4K 60 FPS is much harder to run than people seem to think. Just forget about teraflops, they don’t tell you much of anything unless both GPUs are from the same series and even then, it’s just a rough comparison.

no_more_heroes1339d ago

If it was developed for in the same way consoles are, it would do it easily.

RazzerRedux1339d ago

I don't think consoles run games at settings equivalent to "ultra" anyway, do they? In which case the article is saying no console is actually a "4k/60" console. Just seems silly to me.

catlover3161338d ago

The one x has an improved rx 580 with 12 gb vram, and guess what.. it runs just as expected. A few games are 4K 30 FPS with drops, so using math it takes over twice that gpu power for a solid 60 FPS at 4K. Most games aren’t even 4K on the one x by the way.

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FlyingFoxy1339d ago

For 1440p I'll be looking at the 3080, mostly because I like playing well above 60fps, also pretty much guaranteed a solid high frame rate in more demanding games that come along similar to RDR2.

If people want to play at 4k that's up to them, no chance of getting near 100fps at that resolution in any kind of demanding game though, and the high refresh screens are very expensive.

Some game on big 4k tv's, but with a smaller monitor at 1440p you'd be getting similar/better pixel density anyways.

DonDon30001338d ago

Plus smaller monitor's tend to have far less input lag

traumadisaster1338d ago

In 2009? I’ve 2 lgs and a tcl all are are low. The 4ktcl I think is about 15ms, the c9 oled is like 13, and the 86inch is like 10ms. If you want to look at rtings.com they put major effort into it.

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Sony States We Will Know More About the "Long-Term Vision" of PlayStation Later This Month

Sony has confirmed that there is something happening later this month and it involves SIE which is the division that operates PlayStation.

Skuletor20h ago

My guess, is they were waiting for the new CEO position to be finalized before their next showcase and now that's out of the way.

neutralgamer199219h ago

Yes I think you are right. They wanted the leadership in place hopefully now they can give a strong showing of what’s to come

S2Killinit18h ago

Its not confirmed that this will involve game announcements.

Cacabunga18h ago

Tbh this claim doesn’t reassure me at all..

Eonjay14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

@S2Killinit

If this is about games that worries me because I thought they were walking away from announcing titles far in advance. For them to say 'Long Term Vision' sounds like we are getting announcements years in advance. I don't want that. Lets hope the long term vision part refers to their goal for the company and that they also give us info on projects reaching fruition in the short term.

Also, this is gonna be where we find out that they are going full PC day and date (or greatly reduced if they don't have the capacity at their studios). Its gonna happen. Why? Because all you have to do is look at Helldivers... fastest selling PlayStation game ever. And they make good games. They will sell.
Now we can fight over whether this will hurt the console space. I don't think so as long as they provide an option that will allow people to come close to maxing out their graphics... ergo the PRO.

StormSnooper7h ago

@Eonjoy
I think MS already made that decision for ALL consoles when they went full PC. There is no way other consoles can stay away from PC when their competitor decides to treat PC and Xbox the same. If eventually Sony and possibly even Ninty don’t go PC, they would be handing an advantage to MS. Unfortunately

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46player19h ago

Sounds good, PS5 Pro preorders. Let’s do this!

Crows9019h ago

I don't get it....we barely got any ps5 exclusives and people already want a refresh??

crazyCoconuts18h ago

When they show GTA6 on the Pro I think you'll get it

VersusDMC18h ago

Pretty sure we got 5 console exclusives this year so far and 3rd party games took advantage of the PS4pro last gen so it will happen with the PS5pro as well.

romulus2317h ago

I don't get it either but people get new iphones the second they come out even though they just bought the previous one which works just fine. Some people just want the latest and greatest no matter what and have the income to do it. If the improvement to games is significant enough I may get one but probably not at launch.

-Foxtrot17h ago

Exactly

I will always be behind the idea that one of the reasons why this gen doesn't feel as much of a leap is because we kind of got spoilt with the PS4 Pro last gen. It was like a teaser to this gen.

Looking back on a technological leap after 7 years is way more impressive than if it was 3 or so.

Crows9011h ago

@versus

You're making this out to be something it isn't. I think it's stupid that sony themselves have barely put out any exclusives that can only run on the ps5 and we already have calls for a "pro" version...that is mindblowingly dumb in my opinion

Einhander197210h ago(Edited 10h ago)

People come up with the silliest reasons to claim the console isn't needed, exclusives made by Sony don't matter, third party games are like 500 to 1 even in the best year.

And since PS1 PlayStation has relied on third party publishing deals, the vast vast majority of games that people see as PlayStation games were made by third party developers published by Sony, Insomniac only recently became a PlayStation studio all their games made before that were as a third party.

PS5 Pro is the same as a graphics card upgrade that no one ever complains about like this, and it's way cheaper performance per dollar than a CPU.

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Profchaos6h ago

Doubt you're getting a pro annoucement in a business update

InUrFoxHole0m ago

Hard pass. They haven't even made the most out of the base ps5

anast19h ago

Big things right around the corner.

purple10119h ago

Almost optimistic to say, but those leaks of the 6 cancelled games (games that were not even announced)

yeh, maybe some didn't actually get cancelled after all

notachance19h ago

as a long time ps fans I hope they still put great single player games front and center, make your live service games if you have to but don’t force your 1st party studios to make something they don’t want to.. redfall is an unfortunate example of a good studio forced to basically destroy themselves.

Eonjay14h ago

Good points. How would you feel if Sony decided to put their single player games on PC day and date? This would allow their studios making single player games to recoup more money to keep the games coming. If it works with GaaS why not single player?

notachance11h ago(Edited 10h ago)

If they do that, it’s just a matter of time before someone make a console using PC as a platform, then that console would automatically have the full PC games (which means combined PS, PC, and Xbox games) as a library.

In fact, who’s to say steam aren’t working at it right now lol, just imagine it, something with the ease of use of console that can play both ps and xbox games day 1.. combined with the marketbase of steam, there’s the new king of console.

Or better yet, Nintendo would do it and there will finally be one console that can play it all..

Ps: on the topic of games releasing day and date, you could argue that by delaying PC release date there will be a few people who double dipped on buying games, just like what good ol rockstar loved doing with their games..

fr0sty6h ago

PC PS5 ports lack certain features, like the 3D audio and controller haptic support...so there will always be reasons to play PS5 games on a PS5.

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