Epic Games Sued by Coral Castle Inc. Buckle up.

Popular Floridan tourism manager Coral Castle inc. files law suit suit against Epic amidst the ongoing action with Apple and Google

[MadLad]

I'm looking forward to the day that the Fortnite cashpool starts to dry up, and they can't just throw money into trying to take over the entire games industry, as a whole.

[Silly gameAr]

All of the companies involved are known for throwing money around, man. Epic isn't the good guy here, but then again, none of them really are. It's all about money at the end of the day.

[Olly_S]

Think I may have said literally that in the article. :)

[blacktiger]

well said, only fanboy fights over a corporation lol!

[abstractel]

Epic is as good as they come. The megagrants? No strings attached money for projects anyone can submit that they see potential in. They just announced a $1.78 billion more to the megagrants. They are taking the money they've earned and reinvesting a fair amount of it into the games industry. Unless I've missed something they haven't done anything "evil" or "horrible", they are the opposite. They are stimulating indie development (and tools).

[Thunder_G0d_Bane]

I wish people would realise this about all companies. The amount of fanboys for Sony on this site is ridiculous. Like they ain’t the same company that said if you can’t afford the ps3 get another job.

All these corp companies are shady.

[Lionsguard]

I really don't get this Epic hate. They make billions off a game and what do they do? They give away free games on a very generous basis, they buy up huge companies like Quixel Megascans and make everything free, they give you free resources to make your own games, they let you use their engine free of charge if your game doesn't sell more than a million dollars, they give devs a proper cut of the profits of their game and what does the community do? They turn on Epic like the children they are. Tell me, what has Steam/Valve/Gabe done for you lately?

[ocelot07]

Agreed don't get me wrong Epic are no saints. But they do give back to the consumers. Took away the 30% fee from apple to make the vcoins cheaper for the players. People cry about it.

They gives free games every week to anyone with a epic account. Not just small indie games but big AAA ones as well. People still complain. Last week they gave away Total War Troy a new game free on release day what do some people do? Complain why are they complaining? Because it's not on a certain store front just yet.

You are correct. What have Valve done lately? In order to get me to take my wallet out and buy something from them?

[Sophisticated_Chap]

The part ownership by Tencent, which has ties to the CCP, is the main thing I and many others don't like about Epic.

[calactyte]

Right, it's crazy Lionsguard. I'm a game developer. Epic gives me free access to their server infrastructure called EOS (Epic Online Services) that facilitates matchmaking, private rooms, lobbies, crossplay (across Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo consoles) and leaderboard stats tracking. It's free so I don't have to worry about paying server costs when I want to make a game that supports online play. Let that sink in..this is FREE.

Epic Games is pushing for the industry to only take 12% of the money when a purchase is done through their store. Sony and Microsoft (well I can't say how much they charge because of an NDA but it's more than 12%).

That doesn't even mention the games that they fully fund. I'll be the first to admit that the Epic Game Store isn't at all comparable to Steam but they've steadily upgraded it since it launched. All companies are in business to make money so I agree there are no "good guys" here. Epic obviously wants to get developers and gamers on their side so they offer all these goodies. I don't see Apple or Google doing anything like this. So yeah Stadia can F-right off. Same with Apple Arcade.

[MadLad]

My problem with EPIC is they seemingly only had issue with the games industry after Fortnite, and their large Tencent buy-in. Now they have a problem with virtually every storefront they made use of their entire existence prior.
You see a company making pro-consumer/dev moves; I see a company doing everything it can to increase its relevance in as many gaming markets as possible, and fast.
If EPIC woke up tomorrow, and had the lion's share of the PC/mobile gaming market, I promise you that they wouldn't be throwing out "pro consumer/developer" rallying cries, and would simply be looking at the bottom line.
Tencent owns 40% of the company. Tell me Tencent is pro consumer.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

The Sony fans seem particularly hateful of Epic and I just don't understand why.

I love my iPhone and have stock in Apple but the company is ass when it comes to how the treat developers.

[steven_seagull]

Dont talk shit about Valve, man. Show some god damn respect

[blacktiger]

everyone does that, when they lose or dont have monopoly they lower it down and do the blame game lol!!!!! until they get eleminated and then raise the price. I've seen this before, it's a typical business and not to mention this is how government does it with political party.

[ThomasDaTank]

How very one dimensional thinking. You are only thinking of games games games. Epic has no problem paying millions to do collabs with Marvel and DC but couldn't care less about even paying out a little to others when they put in emotes from pop culture i.e Carlton Dance. Epic is using Coral Castle for its own means which is profit without permission. Epic is not the good guy simply because you get free games.

"They turn on Epic like the children they are" Oh really! Epic tries to weaponize their fanbase because they don't like another mega-billion dollar corporation by making some edgy video parody rather than simply let it play out in court. When Epic went full anti-Valve, I'm sure Valve didn't go vocal on social media like Mr. Sweeney and tell their fanbase to attack them.

While Epic's ideals are good by taking less of cut and giving back to developers, suddenly expect all other platforms to do the same without exception.

[telgou]

Epic introduced regional pricing to my country (for many games but not all, it depends on the developer i guess) while greedy steam NEVER did that to a single game... even though we are as poor as those countries who got it.
This is on top of what you already mentioned like free games.. more profit for developers...etc
They are all big companies competing for the money but i'd take Epic and its prices over steam, they just have to step up their game and make a client like steam.
Competition between companies is what is best for consumers but steam is not even trying so hopefully Epic will win more people.

[Cobra951]

They had the temerity to compete against Steam. That's the source of the hatred.

[kryteris]

This is very generous. Epic clearly cares about the industry and empowering the developers to make epic 😉 experiences. "Epic Games had settled on a 12% revenue cut for titles published through the store, as well as dropping the licensing fees for games built on their Unreal Engine, normally 5% of the revenue."

[BLAKHOODe]

One hit wonder Epic Games?? Fortnite is just the biggest game in the world and has been going on 3 years. Ever heard of Gears Of War? How about the Unreal Engine? Epic Games is way, WAY beyond being a one hit wonder.

Nice try writing In a way to come across cool, tho. You failed miserably, but whatever.

[Olly_S]

Yep, in the way Google are a one trick pony. Glad you enjoy satire as much as I do. ;)

[rainslacker]

Forgot to mention the unreal game. One of the first arena shooters which set the standard for many years.

I'm always impressed with games journalists who seemingly have no clue about the industry they're reporting on.

[TheColbertinator]

I'd root for them if they just made me a new Unreal Championship

[rlow1]

Well, just when you think you have all the momentum.........Bazinga!!

[GoodGuy09]

This is quite entertaining

[Olly_S]

Bring on the popcorn. :D

[RazzerRedux]

Suddenly feel the need to sue somebody.

The next guy who replies below.....I'm suing you.

[italiangamer]

If you're american that's perfectly normal, in the USA suing is a national sport!

[RazzerRedux]

haha.....sad but true.

And I'm suing you as well.

[blacktiger]

"suing is a national sport" I LIKE THAT!

[rpvenom]

The cop who instigated the altercation with Masai Ujiri also sued him.. so yes.. very american

[rainslacker]

I'm counter suing for the pain and anguish of the lawsuit your going to file against me. Even if you win against me, my trauma is worth at least 3-4 billion, but I'll settle out of court for half of that...and a double scoop ice cream cone...waffle cone though...none of that generic stuff

[NeoGamer232]

Gamers have to start realizing that none of these companies are saints in any way, shape or form.

Gamers need to realize that instead of putting themselves in company shoes, evangelizing companies, and ripping company actions while blindly supporting another company is just plain wrong.

Gamers have to look at what is best for the consumer and for gaming.

Violating copyright is wrong, the current appstore model on every platform does not benefit consumers and is restricting competition and content available to the end users, and thinking that any company is over and above another is just plain stupid. Companies want us to like other companies over each other for their lobbying and financial gain, not because they love gamers. Whether it is Epic, Apple, Sony, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, or whoever all they care about is their share price. And their share price is driven by their assets and revenues. They strive to make more and more from each consumer who buys their product.

[RazzerRedux]

Lawyers....attack!

[rainslacker]

OK. But this seems like a simple copyright claim, completely unrelated to anything else going on with what people are taking sides on with which company is the least evil of them all.

[telgou]

Epic introduced regional pricing to my country (for most games but not all, it depends on the developer i guess) while none of the other greedy companies EVER did that to a single game... even though we are as poor as those countries who got it.
They are all big companies competing for the money but i'd take Epic and its prices over steam(and the other companies), they just have to step up their game and make a better client.
Competition between companies is what is best for consumers but steam is not even trying so hopefully Epic will win more people.

[Elda]

Ooooooo..there's some suing going on!

[YourMommySpoils]

Good. A world without Fornite is a better world.

[ChristopherJack]

The same could be said about you.

[YourMommySpoils]

No, just you.

[Knightofelemia]

I miss the old Apple vs Samsung days

[ebonydavis92]

I like that sports.

[Darkborn]

So this is how fortnite dies, with thunderous applause. Lol jokes aside, it's crazy how epic games started this madness and now their in the hot seat. I knew eventually they would fall off their high horse.

[lucian229]

I don't get why people hate a free game lol like what?

[ChristopherJack]

People are hateful creatures, god I hate them.

[Snookies12]

I used to love Fortnite back in the day, but after the 60 FPS patch on consoles. They decided to throw A.D.D. into a blender and call it... Fortnite... They essentially lost all their focus and devolved into becoming a melting pot of random ideas that continued to degrade the original vision.

[Angelin]

I never played Fortnite. But what you are describing is essentially a smart thing on their part, gets them more users which in turn assures them more sales.

All companies do (or try) to do this. They may have lost you as their potential client but they gained 15 others.

[lucian229]

Nah actually I like all the new stuff. It keeps the game fresh and not repetitive like fall guys gets quickly.

I personally always like the variety of situations that are introduced with oddball things like mechs or cars.

It used to be too cookie cutter of itself

[P_Bomb]

2020: the year that just keeps on giving.

[Deathdeliverer]

It’s a damn lawsuit orgy. Someone’s going to leave this shit pregnant.

[Artemidorus]

Trashy game with the aim of gaining a regular income from the younger generation.

[SharnOfTheDEAD]

Oooo? That is interesting. For those unaware Coral Castle is pretty interesting structure.. Built by one man who was quite mysterious in his own right. No one really knows exactly how he built it. Guy had a really rough life and mainly kept to himself. Survived TB too.

[Cobra951]

Three paragraphs of pure anti-Epic bias before getting to the reason for Coral Castle's lawsuit, completely unrelated to Epic's antitrust action against Apple. Spoiler: it's about the allegedly infringing use of the Coral Castle location in Fortnite.

[Shikoku]

Tencent enough said in my book

[Nismo458]

Then you should stop playing video games.Tencent the world’s largest games company in revenue terms, owns “League of Legends” developer Riot Games, an 84% stake in Supercell (“Clash of Clans”), 80% of New Zealand’s Grinding Gear Games (“Path of Exile”), 14.5% of Glu Mobile, 11.5% of Bluehole, and 5% stakes in Activision Blizzard, Ubisoft and Paradox Interactive. Earlier this year Tencent spent $201 million buying control of Funcom, maker of “The Secret World” and “Conan Exiles,” and an undisclosed amount for a minority stake in German studio Yager, maker of “Spec Ops: The Line” and “The Cycle.”