Xboxygen : Halo Infinite demo was running on PC, confirms 343i

And is "representative" of the Xbox Series X version

[Hakuoro]

So sad... Why is Microsoft hiding game play and content played on SX...

[xHeavYx]

Probably because the game needs a lot of development time, it was obvious from what they showed.

[Marquinho]

They need to improve those textures. Saw quite a lot of visual issues there.

Hope they have enough time to polish all this.

XSX is still a day one for me, nothing has changed, but they really need to hire someone who knows what people want to see on those events. They had the content, they just spent way too much time on secondary titles and left us with virtually no content for the heavy hitters.

[djplonker]

Is it not a launch title?

Only has 3 months to go gold before November, I cant see either console releasing in the month of December.

[solideagle]

then why did they show it? It's a holiday/launch release which is 3-4 months away. how much are they going to improve it? This game might be delayed?

[ocelot07]

@Marquinho

That is why Phil Spenser gets a lot of hate yet people always seems to defend him.

Just a few weeks he said he felt good about what Xbox has to offer after watching Sony's event. How can he honestly think that with what was shown today? It was piss poor in my opinion. Ill admit it I was secretly thinking Microsoft was going to have an great showing today.

But it was just as lacklustre as ever.

[morganfell]

"Only has 3 months to go gold before November"

And they do not get all of that. It needs a few weeks for certification of the Gold Master then another few weeks for reproduction and shipping. During the latter they can work on a patch but that is primarily bug fixes. There won't be a massive visual improvements because they have to stabilize the frame rate and at this point in the beta that is done.

[darthv72]

This still is rather interesting. I like the character models but the background looks really dull. Would this be an example of deferred rendering or whatever that new feature is called? Where the part that isnt meant to be focused on is blurred or rendered lower while the main focus rendered higher.

look at the detail on the fingernails and then look at the trees in the back...

https://news.xbox.com/en-us...

[_dangerclose_]

Isn't the game supposed to launch in like three months or so, Holiday 2020? That's not a lot of time left.

[Profchaos]

If they intend to launch it alongside xsx that's time they don't have.

[ForwardDude]

Holiday 2020 is in 4 month and the game look worst than Last of us 2 on PS4. I didn't notice before seeing the youtube side by side video. Now it's the only thing I see.

[morganfell]

@ForwardDude,

You mean this?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Xb1ps4]

Damn man... I was for sure going to get the x first but after this show I changed my mind.. it’s just been too long of a wait just to show that off and still feel like it’s going to be another long wait for ms to get into the swing of things..

I got the one x thinking they would bring something for that console and they never did so I’m not going to drop another few hundred bucks just to say “ I have the most powerful console” while PlayStation clearly has the games on lock..

[Army_of_Darkness]

@Marquinho

Bro, even if Ms only showed a Barbie and sponge Bob square pants video game only, I'm sure you'd still buy a xsx 😜🤣

[bouzebbal]

Then why bother showing it?? Desperate much?

[DJStotty]

@djplonker

Microsoft's holiday is November, so expect Halo and Series X November 2020

[Hakuoro]

ocelot07

Your comment matches my thoughts exactly.

I thought Microsoft was really going to bring it this time, all that money and those studios were going to come to the show big time. None of that happened it was one of their worst showings in a history of bad showings.

Sony must be feeling on top of the world after that.

All Sony needs to do is nail the price, and if possible try to launch before Microsoft (which given MS isn't even showing games on console yet seems quite possible) and it's another slam dunk on Microsoft.

[indysurfn]

I'm calling it.
If I was to make Halo a MMO i would add a word like Infinite to the title.
If I was to make Halo a MMO I would expect it to last 10 years(which is what they said it should last 10 years). If was a bigwig a Microsoft and I wanted Halo to be as big as possible to grow the game pass membership.
If I wanted to increase appeal to the largest growth it can have on pc I would make it a MMO.

I'm calling it, Halo infinite is a MMO.

[UltraNova]

Dear lord, I've never seen a train in perpetual derailment before...

[Elit3Nick]

343 has confirmed that the demo was an older build than what they have right now. In the short gameplay trailer they also released yesterday you can see significantly better lighting.

[Unspoken]

Yeah I would say this build is likely (hopefully) behind the dev occuring in the console. First gen cross console games seem to have this type of roll out and showing. And at the very least it wasn't a CGI trailer and they provided us with actual gameplay. I can see alot of tweaks being applied all the way up to launch date and probably on launch as well as after. Optimizations should continue on Series X and PC for the foreseeable future.

[majiebeast]

This wasn't even running on Series X? HAHAHAHAHA

Best thing coming out of this show was the brute meme.

[ActualWhiteMan]

Link to meme?

[crazyCoconuts]

How embarrassing

[rainslacker]

Guess this means we can't criticize the technical aspects of the graphics issues that popped up, which were somehow so relevant on the PS5 show, because these won't be problems on the XSX....or something.

Just gotta wait for the fan boys to get that talking point from the guys over at reddit who can think of things like that. Then we can listen to it repeated constantly for the next 3-4 months.

Got to watch it finally on the TV at home, and while it looked OK, it did just looked like a sharper version of a current gen game, and didn't really do anything that next gen GPU's are capable of. The lighting alone was fairly basic. Lots of texture pop in. Particle effects were limited or basic.

I know their devs have more talent than this, even if its on PC, and MS new engine is pretty good, so at this point I'm thinking they are behind schedule because I think a lot of these things could be fleshed out with more time. But, I don't think MS is really going to feel they're in a position where they can delay this game, so it'll probably be a publish now, fix later deal....which is disappointing.

[bouzebbal]

the bad AI and animations is what chocked me the most... wow!

[Unspoken]

This appears to be an extremely earlier build for demo use. I've seen this before. There is only a short time to polish the game but it could already be in the works even prior to this showing as the optimize across the board. Those issues could easily be fixed. Going to wait until release date to see what is available at launch.

[SyntheticForm]

It actually just got worse.

[chiefJohn117]

Still in development, had some pop in I saw. 3-⁴ months is a lot of dev time

[Hakuoro]

3 months isn't a lot of time honestly. Games like this have a 4-5+ year development. TLOU 2 was in development for 6 years. But I guess that's the difference between Microsoft and Sony and selling games traditionally versus gamepass and GaaS.

Microsoft highlights how special Sony games really are. TLOU 2 and Ghost look better in actual game play than any of Microsoft's cinematic trailers.

[morganfell]

3 months? No. 2 months. The last month is all cert/reproduction/shipping. They are starting to chase bugs right now. Polish isn't anything major at this point. I can't believe this game will ship without multiplayer (it is possible that could come later) but if its coming at launch then there is a lot of time being spent on that. Not just bugs but balance and testing.

[chiefJohn117]

TLOU2 is 30fps

[chiefJohn117]

You compared 30fps games that don't come close to the open world scale and action of Halo infinite. We not worried about how it "look" we worried about how it play! That's why gamers are pushing for 60fps standard. Why halo fans begged for split screen to return. For it to have more meat to the campaign like original halos than halo 5 did. You drive to visual narrative but Halo fans not worried bout that, Halo 3 had nothing on Crysis or even halo 4 yet it was way better. We worried about getting the best gameplay possible over visuals. We'll leave that to the 30fps move games. GodFall look waaaay better than R&C but I have a hunch you'll play R&C over it even tho it has PS4 graphics

[rainslacker]

2-3 months really isn't a lot of time when it comes to development. Code lock, where new features are not added anymore, and optimization and full bug fixing begins in earnest for what's already done at the 6-8 month mark. Within the last month before going gold, final builds will be put together for certification, so realistically, a final build is going to need to be done within a month or two now. MS can fast track the certification process, giving them a few more weeks, but no, if this game is releasing in 3-4 months, then I wouldn't expect major improvements. They may fix things like the texture pop in, but putting in advanced lighting at this stage isn't going to happen. Advanced lighting, which is what everyone seems to be harping on lately, would already be implemented, and if they add it now, then the graphics can possibly take a hit.

I think the game didn't look bad or anything. There were some technical issues which are mostly annoying and not game breaking, but given the standards I've seen Xbox fans go on about the past couple months, what was shown here should not be excused or be thought of as acceptable.

If you want to wait for release before criticizing, that's fine, but at least be consistent when you turn around and criticize Sony on the same things, which were no where near as bad. This was supposedly their next gen showcase. You guys set the standards, not Sony fans. Now, you have a game that looks like a current gen game they just applied some basic filters to to make it sharper, with substandard animations, rather simplistic AI even by current gen standards.

Expect more, or you will always get less.

[garos82]

this aint it chief!

[IRetrouk]

Is it open world? Is it not just hubs like god of war, uncharted, tlou2 and gears 5?

[Petebloodyonion]

2 months is pretty short @chiefJohn117
Yes they can polish the game but that won't change much from what we saw
And as Morganfell points out, What about the multiplayer aspect of the game? It's a core experience of Halo
will they do a Tlou2/RDR2 and launch it later?
and ill agree with Rain about MS track record about launching an imperfect game and fix it later.
And somehow I do feel that MS will rush the game to meet the 2020 launch time.

MS has done well in the past 2 years to change the relationship they have with the media and the perception of the brand. ex: Angry Joe is more positive, Geoff Keighley was praising the conference, Peter North of Gamespot seems to be now happy with Xbox, etc.
Having a rushed game could easily harm that goodwill.

Edit : Damn they will rush the game...
https://www.gamespot.com/ar...
They plan to beta test some after the game release and they are committed to Halo until 2030
So expect a crappy release that they will patch...
I hope that I'm wrong but it doesn't smell good.

[Unspoken]

@morganfell they technically have all the way up until launch. Same as previous gen games which came with a day one patch. Hell, both consoles will have day one patches or shortly after to address issues. This unfortunate trend is to get the product into the hands of consumers, then fix they remaining issues.

[badz149]

TLoU Part2 and Ghost of Tsushima shit all over EVERYTHING shown today for the Series X! and now we know it's not even running on the SX? those must be PC with 2080Ti and 32GB RAM and the i9 10900K...best PC configuration for games right now and yet...TLoU2 and GoT look better still.

whatever happened to those 12TF of power they are so proud about? can't all that POWER make their games look better and also 60fps? it's over 6X more powerful than base PS4 and almost 3X more powerful than the Pro fgs!

[DJStotty]

"And is "representative" of the Xbox Series X version"

[gravedigger]

Patrick Klepek :

"FYI, I was part of a private Halo Infinite demo this afternoon with a Q&A and didn’t really come away with much more about what that game is. The demo was basically another run through what all of you already saw today. A little frustrating."

https://twitter.com/patrick...

[Vengeance1138]

Must have been a really low spec PC to get those kinda visuals, i mean... yikes!

[MecheSlays]

The 4k gameplay vid looks a little better. Still last gen like tho.

[gamer7804]

It’s not done even at launch. Ray tracing is coming post launch

[I_am_Batman]

It's not even the look of the game that threw me off. I wasn't expecting a graphical benchmark, considering it's a cross-gen game. The lack of polish was somewhat shocking though. Constant pop in for shadows and foliage that's fairly close to the player, tires of the vehicle clipping through the ground, explosion fragments getting stuck in mid air, light maps taking a second to correctly load in after the minimap is closed and some really low res textures.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like we don't see this stuff in released games, but a game that is held up as the early flagship title for 'the most powerful console ever' should have a higher quality than that. I wonder if Microsoft would consider delaying it if they feel like they don't have enough time to polish it up for launch.

[Hakuoro]

gamer7804

Sony was showing game play of their big games with RT and on a PS5 dev kit, so that's a pretty poor excuse.

[Elda]

Looks last gen with high resolution.

[_dangerclose_]

Yeah 4k can only do so much that's why touting resolution is pointless I mean 4k Pac-Man is still just Pac-Man.

[ForwardDude]

The game would have been an excellent Xbox One X game. But now it will be a mediocre Killzone Shadow Fall type of game. Good as a launch title, but forgotten in 6 months when better games are released.

[Hakuoro]

ForwardDude

Honestly Killzone was WAY more impressive as a launch game than this is.

Killzone looked very much "next gen" compaired to PS3 games. Halo looks like an Xbone game when it's supposed to be a next gen game.

[Unspoken]

Game trailers in CGI or full on gameplay of early build demo. Pick one to complain about.

[FlavorLav01]

Yea, no need to upgrade parts yet for what we just saw

[Unspoken]

No, definitely not as this game is targeting cross gen as a baseline.

[Baza]

And that pop-in though! Yikes!!

[Unspoken]

Doubt it will be there at release. I believe this was a showing of an unreleased game in development. I might be mistaken.

[waverider]

I wont believe that. I cant

[crazyCoconuts]

It really is like a bad dream.

[MajorLazer]

Absolutely awful. I gave them another chance, thought maybe they'd have a great show today. It was another absolute stinker with barely any gameplay shown, again. Very dissapointed.

[MADGameR]

HOW many chances are you going to give them? They gave X Box fans NOTHING for 5 years (almost the ENTIRE generation) and you're still going to give them a chance? So if MS says ''we have more to show at a later date'', are you going to give them a chance? What if they disappoint again? Then what?

[fiveby9]

You should really consider PS5 first then. What have you got to lose? Great games pedigree and a strong lineup for PS5. I've known several friends make the switch this gen to PS4 and they don't regret it.

[solideagle]

this was supposed to be why consumers should buy XSX and they ran the demo on PC...
wwwwhhhhhaaaaaatttttt -_-

[Xb1ps4]

🤦🏼‍♂️

[RaidenBlack]

RT to be added via an update?
Didn't BF:V had it on launch 2 years ago?

[ActualWhiteMan]

BF:V 😂 What a trash game to compare it to.

[StoneyYoshi]

No. BF5 had a patch later on since RTX cards weren't even out yet when that game was released. They just happened to showcase RT with that game.

[RazzerRedux]

So did we see anything actually running on the hardware?

[Rude-ro]

Not yet.. still probably being engineered to solve the heat that will be produced in said box form.
That design is for the simple niche pc build but if it is pushing a 2080ti for the use of a home console.... 😬 With Microsofts history of inept cheap builds.. could be a huge concern.

My 2080 super has 5 fans in a very breathable pc case... and can still get kinda hot with long gaming sessions... I could not imagine the more powerful build of the x in such a small form factor not having issues.

[djplonker]

I didn't want this to be the way I leaked this info but..... Here is a screenshot of an upcoming xbox exclusive terminator game running on the hardware.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media...

[darthv72]

If you had said commando... you might have won over some people.

[rainslacker]

Dude....spoilers!!!!

[Hakuoro]

Doubtful, I mean the lead up to this was all lies. They lied about the amount of game play they lied about the number of games when it comes to Halo it's clear they lied when they said the game was being made for SX and scaled down to xbone.

It's all lies from these guys.

[dumahim]

I guess they weren't clear on their messaging, again.

[SyntheticForm]

I seriously doubt it.

[TheColbertinator]

Hahahahaha nooooo way I am stunned.

The chuds on the YouTube chat were praising it as the next step in 4K. This is charming even for Microsoft smoke and mirrors.

[SpaceRanger]

To be fair, they did have a PC badge for most of the games they showed... but this is something much more concerning for Halo.

Especially considering that everyone is making it into a meme and saying they’re copying Bungie’s Destiny.

[TheColbertinator]

I wouldn't say coping since they would look exactly the same. I'd call it more imitation.

[Futureshark]

And the damage control begins...
But why not run it in a series X?

Btw, looks more and more like Halo Infinite will be a GaaS after all, what with the '10 year plan', ' more smaller releases', blah, blah, blah.
No thanks.

[stuna1]

Be careful about saying that.....even if it might be true! I got disagreed to high heaven.

It clear Microsoft has and will continue to use sneaky tactics concerning their fanbase because they go right along with it.

Didn't Microsoft say they learned from their previous presentation!? What exactly did they learn!? Not to get caught!

To be honest I don't buy the game running on PC bit, I think it's more along the lines of keep quiet because it's actually running on the Series X and we don't want to damage the the reception of the Series X.

[yomfweeee]

That is how they can give away their titles free as GP. The updates and expansions won't be free.

[Ristul]

When I saw it was a gaas model (or something like it) I was a bit turned off to the whole idea. I dont know, It didnt sit right with me. Maybe I was to quick to give ms praise, now that I have slept on it I dont feel so good about it.

[yomfweeee]

God damn they got blasting d for pulling this last time. Sony mocked them in their presentation by pointing out everything is running on PS5.

So they do it again?

[Hakuoro]

Yea, I admit my bias, but honestly I was surprised. I thought after all the talk they were going to show a ton of games with AAA graphics showing off the SX and showing a lot of game play. And what they showed was trailers probably run on PC again.

It reminded me of the xbone x E3 reveal where they bragged about the most powerful console but then just showed a bunch of low budget indie games....

Honestly they never learn. I guess that's why they have to be deceptive and lie and downplay Sony all the time...

Even with all that money they can't get their act together the way Sony does.

[StoneyYoshi]

They can't even get their act together in regards to Windows 10. That's why I don't have faith in them on top of these two disappointing events.

[rainslacker]

Sad thing is, is that a lot of the games they showed in the first half actually look like something I'd be interested in. Yeah, they aren't all next gen amazing and stuff, but could be interesting. But when expectations are set so high, and standards are set down by their fan base to criticize competition, and they show what they did as a whole to promote what is being called next gen gaming, it falls flat, and distracts from the actual content.

And MS has a bad habit of doing this. It's about promoting themselves and the systems or services. Do whatever they can to do that, but when it fails to deliver or impress, people focus on that instead of said content. I mean, HB2 was a promotion to watch the location scouting with some shots from the first trailer. An Ori:WoTW remaster...hooray it'll be 120fps. Grounded, while it has cute narration, looked pretty boring. Cringy dev talk. Lots of artsy games, which I do like, but not enough of the big games that people really get excited about. A music video of some guy singing.

I don't know what MS learned, but it's not how to make a game show that gets people excited.

They still have studios that haven't shown anything, but i'm getting to a point where I'm having a hard time taking people seriously if they are super excited about these games, and critical of any huge AAA mega-game that the competition brings out. Maybe the Xbox fan base has changed, but most of what MS showed seemed like it was more geared towards Nintendo fans, but missing most of the charm that Nintendo fans seem to like.

[TKCMuzzer]

The biggest issue is this, if Sony had released a 30 sec gameplay video of Spider-Man Miles Morales running at 4K 60 FPS on the PS5 straight after this conference it would have completely over shadowed this whole conference. That’s surely not a good sign if your an Xboxer.

[stuna1]

I heard Sony was supposedly having a presentation August 6th, but after Microsofts presentation they cancelled it.

[-Foxtrot]

If they were so proud of the Xbox Series X's raw power then why not show it running on the actual console

I just don't get it...

[gamer7804]

It was a dev build, due to covid they didn’t have time to run a new build on xsx

[-Foxtrot]

Oh the covid huh...heard it all now.

[Ben Dover]

@gamer7804

That didn't seem to stop Sony. Stop using covid as a lame excuse.

[gamer7804]

@Ben i must have missed the game sony showed off that had 4k/60 and raytracing then...

[Sunny_D]

Bro, the game is out in 3 months. They would have been already working on this game using series X devkits.... every other devs seems to have no problem but Halo does?

[dietis_h]

inexcusable.

[rainslacker]

LOL. what? What about all that easy porting and scaling I've been hearing about, that I always said was BS, but it's such an advantage for MS going forward.

If they had time to build a full PC demo, they could have done it on an XSX. Covid makes it so it's harder to coordinate teams, it doesn't make it impossible or more problematic to do the actual work.

[TKCMuzzer]

Come on, the game releases in a few months and your telling me they don’t have a current build running on hardware. If it’s that easy to make these games run on multiple devices, they need to show it.

[gamer7804]

Exactly, not this particular demo build. Also some polish is going on now and unfortunately some after it launches such as ray tracing

[janus225]

Are u a Microsoft shareholder?

[TheTony316]

That game was gt7

[kopp3rbug]

Give me a break. Dev build my ass. The game comes out in 4 months. There is no way in hell there is a better version of Infinite out there that hasn't been shown...what was shown today (not even running on series X) is safe to say what you'll get this holiday.

[gamer7804]

@everyone saying I’m lying. They’ve publicly nconfirmed what I was telling you. I’ll just leave this here:

https://wccftech.com/halo-i...

[stuna1]

You believe that? So what was Sonys excuse? Due to Cvid 19 we have no choice but to show PS5 games running on actual PS5 hardware!? You can't make this stuff up.

[Ben Dover]

@gamer7804

Oh I did, it was called Gran Turismo 7.

Owned you dumb idiot!

[Elda]

Exactly.

[FlavorLav01]

And,...of course it was (arms folded, rolling eyes)

[timotim]

Wow...no words.

[djplonker]

Xbox fans should be outraged

Trailers and barely any gameplay, wasnt even running on the console...... If you truly think xbox can be competitive with playstation the fans have to demand alot lot more.

[MasterCornholio]

They should have shown it in the series X and shown the advantages of the hardware.

[ElementX]

Where did 343i say this? I don't see a link or quote

[Rainbowcookie]

Exactly...

[RazzerRedux]

"Today we showed the first look at the “Halo Infinite” campaign running in real-time and *representative* of the power and performance of Xbox Series X."

https://news.xbox.com/en-us...

[ElementX]

Ok thanks

*Edit* That's pretty sad

[gamer7804]

thats currently correct, but also incorrect for the future state, it was without some polish and without raytracing which is a huge omission thats being added after launch.

[Rainbowcookie]

Oh okay I misread that . Thanks

[Deathdeliverer]

This is ridiculous. How can even the most hardcore of the hardcore not be fed up at this point? Once again, a console that will actually be out fairly soon still has not shown much (almost any?) gameplay on the actual hardware. The first time they do the most it’s on PC? And it looks terrible? It makes Sony look like psychics. After a certain amount of TF things kinda start have barely noticeable differences. So how do you take things to the next level in other ways? Enter PS5. This was their SECOND showing too. PS5s second showing will actually show the OS, like I was hoping Microsoft would at least do on this showing, and other things actually running on the hardware to bring value to the console.

[AmUnRa]

Cous when you are the hardcore of the hardcore fanboy, you always find excuses and sugarcoat even the biggest pile of shit like: "it is not extreme great but there is a cherry on top, thats great😉"

[Benficaman]

thats realy sad.

[ocelot07]

They are releasing the console in like 4 months. Why are they still showing games running on a PC and not a XSX? Least this budget PC owners with a GTX 1060 can look forward to play this in 4K.

[gamer7804]

They confirmed this is an earlier build and no ray tracing in it yet.

https://wccftech.com/halo-i...

[ocelot07]

Sorry but that is no excuse the game is releasing in around 4 months. This was suppose to be the even that blew us all away and make us believe that Xbox has risen from the dead and they could only throw a old built running on a pc for it?

[aaronaton]

OOOO when it rains, it pours!

[Einhander1971]

Things just keep getting worse, I always remember when 3DO was shown running. Only to discover high end pcs or apple macs were running the demo units:( go back to the Unreal 5 reveal a few weeks ago RUNNING ON PS5!!! I was sold from that point.

[moriarty1889]

What a joke. I thought Phil and Co. said the xsx version would be on display.

[MEGANE]

They need to focus on next GEN, everything is being held back, I don’t understand this approach...not exclusive for the next year, so why getting one?. I think MS is all ove the place.

[janus225]

The problem with Microsoft exclusives they like to play safe.
Look God of War PS4 they take the risk to change the gameplay completely.
With PS4 exclusives you can see and feel developpers gain some maturity.( Jaks to Uncharted to TLOU, Infamous to GoT).

[Shadowsteal]

Nintendo does the same thing btw, even though I love their games.

Wish they actually hired proper devs for Pokemon though.

[Elda]

WOW! I thought everything about today's show was all about the XBSX including Halo running on the XBSX.

[Mister_Wolf]

The way this looked, I think they share rushing this game to ensure it drops as a launch title.

[soulrebel]

People moaning about textures....you watched it via youtube ffs. Difference when it's playing native on your LG/Samsung will be night and day. Jesus, how long till people stop judging modern visuals on YouTube?!?!

[Deathdeliverer]

Oh you thought a whole new tree was going to pop up? Suddenly tire tracks were going to show up after that warthog drove through that mud? Or maybe the video compression didn’t show how damaged the environment got from ANY of those shots or grenades? I know.... maybe YouTube compression stopped several enemies form having ANY reaction to being hit with and used as a point to grapple to.... Only 5 months left in the year, it’s a launch game that will most likely release in November next to the series X and therefor only has about 4 months left. That’s not even subtracting production time. Good try but this game is fucked up and basic. Multiplayer needs to be trance inducing.

[StoneyYoshi]

Watched it on my 4k Sony in 4k didn't make much of a difference to me. I actually noticed all the pop in even more watching it on my TV in 4k.

Don't get me wrong. It looks good but not as good as I was expecting. I don't think it looks as good as the video when they were teasing the game and the slip space engine.

[kopp3rbug]

Right, because YouTube magically takes textures, poly counts, sprinkles in pop in, and removes any sort of mud deformation from the warthog running over it , buuuuuuuut your magical TV will put all that in.

[Einhander1971]

Let's be honest here, I watched the whole PS5 reveal on crappy YouTube quality. Games still looked incredible, the first thing I thought was just imagine this on my 4k TV.

[Lexreborn2]

Series X has yet to show games playing on it. Kinda concerned

[Minute Man 721]

Seriously, wtf is going on????? Heating issues?????

[Hakuoro]

To be fair the console doesn't need to be in form factor or could be put in a super cold room. There may be heat issues but that's not really an excuse to not show the game on console. I mean those things would be deceptive but it's not like that stops them. Heck they tried to be deceptive about it being run on PC.

[Minute Man 721]

There is zero footage of anything running on series X. 4 months til launch

[rainslacker]

The dev kit doesn't look like the console, and that's what they would have shown it on. Dev kit is basically a XSX with extra memory for debugging purposes.

[ActualWhiteMan]

Framerate was laughable in a lot of scenes. Unacceptable at this stage of development.

[StoneyYoshi]

Did you notice frame drops right before chief got into the warthog?

[RgR]

I can see Phil's excuse article for the lack of gameplay already. Lots of pr to be had soon.

[ZwVw]

LOL. He'll probably try to point the blame at Don Mattrick.

[Futureshark]

"Wait till next year!!"
Classic Spencer.

[RgR]

Yea he will say something along the lines that gamers are so passionate and they have strong emotions etc. That they will never hit every mark but will do better. Etc.

And wait again for the coming months - year.

[ironmonkey]

Lol running on pc ouch. I mean, are you Fking serious.

[DFresh]

The Xbox Conference proved to me a couple things.
1.) Invest more in building a Gaming PC.
2.) All games will be available on both PC/Xbox both on retail/digital and with Game Pass (stream).

[StoneyYoshi]

That's been proven to me the moment they first announced Xbox play anywhere having their exclusives on PC

[SpaceRanger]

Yikes... this is “Xbox Series X Optimized”?
Their flag ship game, a game just about every FPS gamer has played looks like this for next gen?

[chiefJohn117]

With the game being a launch title the demo should've been running on the SX. It personally not a big deal to me but it's the principal of the whole thing. Still Day 1! Lol I'm hyped as hell. Hopefully we get a MP beta and campaign demo to play

[F0XH0UND922]

Well at least they have one excited fan...

[chiefJohn117]

Plenty of halo fans excited. You wouldn't understand you don't play halo anyway

[F0XH0UND922]

@john

Not true. I've played Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3, and Halo Reach. I had many nights playing splitscreen with my buddies over the years. Try again. Also, I hope you realize that you're in minority, even among Halo fans.

[Deathdeliverer]

They need to rip that “optimized” crap out the marketing playbook. This is insane.

[Father__Merrin]

The game needs development time. Same with Forza they have only just started on game

[chiefJohn117]

They revealed Forza? Man I missed a ton

[ForwardDude]

Sad if true. The game is releasing in 4 month and Microsoft can't show real gameplay of Series X? Wasn't the point of the Xbox event to be about Series X? Was it just a Gamepass event after all. That's the only good thing about Microsoft right now. Why not just release Xbox branded PC with Windows 10 and call it a day.

[DaGR8JIBRALTAR]

What....a Commodore64?

[Minute Man 721]

Isn't the point of this show was to "show" games running on the system? WTF Microsoft???????

[Ashunderfire86]

That makes it even worse! They need to fire Aaron Greenberg and Phil Spencer! All they do is lie! So pretty much none of their games are running on the Series X then? They have a bad bad way of doing things like this to deceive people. I remember when I was at E3 2013 I heard that all the Xbox One playable demos was running on PC. Sounds like Microsoft is clearly not ready to truly show off gameplay running on the Series X if that is the case lol!!!

[DRambo]

They should have skipped a few years, made a Series X 1.5 and had games ready for launch. No point in trying to go head-to-head with Sony, they are gunna get slaughtered again

[Relientk77]

That's even more embarrassing lol Why were the graphics so underwhelming?

[anast]

Kind of a sad joke. It's beyond funny at the moment. They can't even have a few seconds of game play on their console with their house game. Looks like they are going to stick it to their fans once again.

[Zombieburger638]

This game. This Xbox show. This is the nail in the coffin for me. The xbox brand is completely dead.

[Good-Smurf]

When I thought it couldn't get worse...holy crap is there anything in that event that run on XSX at all?

[talocaca]

The excuses begin 🙄

That demo looked mediocre. I thought it was running on Xbox One and that they would suddenly say "Ok, now take a look at the Series X version".

That never happened.

[gamer7804]

You are right they should have footnotes that this was an earlier pc build and also ray tracing coming later.

https://wccftech.com/halo-i...

[HannibalLecter]

Nothing to see here folks.
Well nothing playing on the XSX at least.
Just more wait to see for their fan base.

Thought team xbox learned their lesson with the last showing or is that not what they said?
Starting to get hard to keep track they flip-flop so much.

Even some of their die hard fans are starting to question things.
Time to let team xbox know you fans expect much more from them.
Keep being complacent and you will keep getting more of the same or worse...

Only 3-4 months out have they impressed you enough or have they just given more PR promises. More wait and see...
Gets old doesn't it?

[Charal]

The joke never ends.

[tontontam0]

xbox fanboys: you have to watch it in 4k

me on my 4k screen : WOW , It looks like an oudated current gen game but AT 4K.

[gamer7804]

Not the latest build running on it and no ray tracing in it yet.

https://wccftech.com/halo-i...

[neomahi]

So, oh wow! So Xbox Series X version could look worse, that's.... Sad because the demo they showed sucked. There was pop-in at one point, the trees were harder than a guy on Viagra, with no physics. A few enemies on screen at once, like, how is this supposed to make everyone feel better? The game looks like it was running on Xbox One.

I'm reminded at ever Xbox event just how talented Sony studios are and just how great Sony is a gaming company. They know how to find developers and show what they can do and how lucky we are as gamers. Sony really does need Microsoft, Microsoft encourages Sony to be and do better while Microsoft is apparently content with mediocrity. Everyone tells me competition is great! And now I see why.

Microsoft had another chance to show what they could do, they said after Sonys event this month they were feeling good (or maybe Phil Spencer's scared to death), maybe because they saw what third party developers were doing and knew third-party devs could save their first-party, problem is Phil Spencer, all those games were shown a PS5 and you still haven't dealt with the rest of Sony. What does San Diego going on, what's Bend up too, what's Santa Monica got with God of War 2? And now a totally new from the grounds up studio?

How long ago was Hellblade released? How simple of a game was that? It was a linear game that had you match shapes, fight off a few enemies with a sword, and that's it and took how long for Ninja Theory to make? What have they been doing since then? Sony picked Insomniac up and look at them, Spider-Man Mike's Morales and they showed Ratchet and Clank off after finishing Spider-Man recently. What, Ninja Theory got Microsoft's money and said: "Guess we're not gonna work now, we've got it made."

AND WHERE THE HELL WAS BATTLETOADS!? It's been in development for how long and it wasn't there. You had one job Microsoft, and you blew it, all you did was reassure people of why they wanted a PS5 and are glad they have a PS4 at present, or, rather maybe you've just scared people now there's not gonna be enough PS5 consoles. Competition is going to be fierce, I'm nervous I won't be able to get one now. YOUR SHOW SUCKED MICROSOFT, AGAIN!

[BehindTheRows]

Sony doesn’t need Microsoft at all. They were making lovely games showing off their hardware long before Xbox was even a concept.

Microsoft just needs to put up and shut up. It’s as simple as that.

[DRambo]

I don't think Spencer will be around much longer.

[dumahim]

"How long ago was Hellblade released? How simple of a game was that?"
To be fair, if you watch the developer diaries through development of the game, you'd be impressed with what they did and resources they had.

[SamTheGamer]

Not again MS 🤦🏻‍♂️

[Stanjara]

This game is gonna be delayed.
No way this is gold in 2 months.
Halo 4 on 360 was impressive, and it looks ways better than this.
Doom Eternal on PC looks insane.
Damn, Doom on Switch looks better.

[gamer7804]

Not the latest build and no ray tracing in it yet.

https://wccftech.com/halo-i...

[jairusmonillas]

Excuses.

[Darminos]

Always blame on Something.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

It’s only 6 months away from launch, I’m sure this isn’t indicative of larger shortcomings

[Rhythmattic]

On a PC is still Xbox...... Isnt it?
XBOX < > PC = no Console.....but NUC.

[PowerPlayaaa]

They are shooting them selves in the 3rd foot now. Microsoft seems more and more embarrassing for each year that goes by. Always loads of promises since 2014. But still sinking like titanic for each and every year. I was hoping that this conference would be major for them and us gamers. But nop. It was mediocre at best.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Oof even more in my opinion

[garos82]

so embarrassing. xbox hasnt learnt anything last gen

[Father__Merrin]

Why was it not shown on Xbox

[akaFullMetal]

Is there going to be a delay for this game? Raytracing being added after launch? Pop in all over the game, dropped fps, but that could be from the stream. Either way this was to wow us and it's not even running on the Xbox but PC. Just unimpressed at this time.

[Minute Man 721]

Phil claimed "the hardware advantages will show up" then once again CG trailers with 5 - 7 secs of gameplay.

Maybe they will show us @ the planned show in August ( more CG ), but this show yesterday was suppose to show us the hardware power.

[2ndhandcorn]

Sweet not a fan of open world games much but will give it ago , this setting will be good for warzone mode . As long as multi is as good as H5 im keen.

[Shikoku]

So they talked all that stuff about Xbox series X being the best this and that and their flagship games was running on a PC......wow.

[quenomamen]

What MS pulling a fast one ? Noooooo

[thebobbywhite2629]

Dude why are people complaining about HALO INFINITE!!! it looks EXACTLY LIKE WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR.

[MIDGETonSTILTS17]

Ffs the game is less than 6 months from launch, and you can’t show legitimate XsX gameplay to show off the hardware for launch?

I knew Xbox was in danger relying so heavily on a tired IP, but now they look dead in the water

[satiana]

This is future.

[ghostrider32]

It's bad enough they barely showed gameplay. They refuse to show content running on the new Xbox system. Xbox management need a long overdue revamp.

[Doomeduk]

I'm staggered I really am
Did no one from upon high in Microsoft sit down and watch this halo trailer?
With all the talk from devs about the SSD in the Ps5 and how it impacts graphics now was the time for xbox to say this is why 12tflops matters..... But show pop in and jaggedy ass backgrounds
Even if this was an early build I just don't see how anyone editing it would pass it off as acceptable knowing people watching will pick up on all this, why not just have a corridor scene where it can be managed
It just seems like no one actually gives a shit

[greywolf39]

Whaaat?! Man MS needs to do something about their aproach to consoles and PR team is horrible.

[JokerBoy422]

Sad, looked like a PS2 game running at 4k...

[Tdiddy2x]

I'll just leave this here: https://imgur.com/aWNpRvn