How Can Microsoft Make July’s Xbox 20/20 Games Event A Hit?

Microsoft will showcase there 1st and 2nd party exclusive games in July. As part of the Xbox 20/20 lineup of events. These are steps Microsoft could take to have a successful show.

[RazzerRedux]

Reveal the upcoming games from The Initiative and Playground and show some Halo Infinite gameplay.

That'll do it.

[xboxcult]

I agree. At the very least that's what they need to do. They need to go all out though. A mass amount of Game announcements and hype galore if they want to bring it to Sony . And no blurry webcams lol.

[chrisx]

They need to show gameplay and more gameplays. It can't be stressed enough just how important that is.

[RazzerRedux]

"And no blurry webcams lol."

And no fatass Greenberg. lol

[Bruh]

@chrisx
Wait I don't get the expectation, Sony barely showed any gameplay yesterday. Yet Microsoft is expected to show a lot of gameplay to match them? lmao wheres the logic there

[Sunny_D]

@bruh

MS has been lacking gameplay for the past 7 years. They are last place for a reason. They want to make an impact on consumers? Then they need to go all out. It’s been known Sony will deliver games just like TLOU2 and GOT this year. It’s always been wishy washy with MS.

[remixx116]

@bruh

Bro there was plenty of gameplay shown, what event were you watching??

I saw kena gameplay, ratchet gameplay, gt7 gameplay, and many others. I'm confused...

[Darkborn]

Sony already said this was like half the games their showing off before the PS5 release. So even if they throw all the stops, in August, Sony is gonna have another conference and probably reveal God of War, and that multi-player shooter and a couple other games they are holding onto.

[bouzebbal]

No halo gears Forza, show they have other things than these boring franchises that have been milked like crazy..

Now the problem is, they said there will be only cross gen titles in the first 2years, so I won't have expectations high

[hamburgerhill]

There's nothing wrong with Halo, Forza or Gears, but they need to show a bigger variety of games.

[derek]

Xbox cult? Bring it to Sony? Sony has never prevented Microsoft from doing anything, this isn't even a battle between them if you listen to good guy Phil. No Microsoft sucks at producing great games because they simply don't care to invest the time or money to do so. The smart money is that the July event will continue Xboxs slide into irrelevance.

[sampsonon]

@Sunny_D: And Spider-Man 2. Three heavy hitters in 7 months.

[Obscure_Observer]

"That'll do it."

That´s the easy part. I want to see how well current gen games like Forza 8 fares against GT7 and Playground´s RPG vs Horizon: Forbidden West.

[RazzerRedux]

I get comparing racers, but I think open world RPGs can usually stand on their own. Wither 3, Skyrim, HZD, etc. They don't need to be compared to each other to be great.

I'm expecting an awesome RPG from PG simply because they are great developers.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Fight! Fight! Fight!

[i3eyond the Circle]

I think current gen Forza 8 might outperform GT7 even being cross gen. Turn 10 actually does good work and pushed the genre forward the past few installments.

[Sunny_D]

GT7 isn’t going to be out for a while where as we assume Forza 8 will be out this year. So wouldn’t make sense if GT8 is nowhere near completion.

[CaptainHenry916]

Has Playground ever made a RPG? Horizon is one of the best games this generation

[crazyCoconuts]

I've gotta think just a quick visual comparison between Forza and GT is gonna get harder and harder as these games look more and more photo realistic. Assuming they're both beautiful, I wonder if they'll both be available at launch...

[RazzerRedux]

@CaptainHenry916

"Has Playground ever made a RPG? Horizon is one of the best games this generation"

Had GG ever made a RPG before Horizon? Or an open world game? Don't think so. I think great devs aren't tied to a genre or a style. Great devs, like Playground, just make great games.

[Sol4ris]

@Obscure

"That´s the easy part. I want to see how well current gen games like Forza 8 fares against GT7"

If the footage Sony showed from GT7 is anything to go by, then MS has nothing to fear.
GT7 barley looked better than GTSport on PS4pro, and pop in on the PS5? Polyphony better up their game, because next to Ratchet & Clank (which looked awesome) it appears decidedly current gen.

[chiefJohn117]

What are you comparing? Graphics? Everyone can tell you a racer is something you gotta feel and play to compare more than anything. And an RPG is hard to compare visually since what's make a rpg good is it's story, combat, and world. Graphics is just icing on the cake nothing more. I'm with Razzer on this one.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

LOL good luck Playground you will need it.

[JohnDoe187]

Man, I hope that game Playground Games is working on is Fable. I miss that series. Probably won't get a Series X for it but will be getting a shiny new PC to play it on.

[RazzerRedux]

I'm down either way. Open world RPG. Yes, please. Be it Fable or new IP.

Yeah...I'm playing on PC as well. No need to buy a console that duplicates what my PC does.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Have fun despite you two are in the small minority. Hardly anyone buys or suddenly switches or even upgrades to PC considering X Series will be the highest fidelity.

Obviously if you mainly play PC then you're not going anywhere. But if you natively play console you're really not goin anywhere.

[chiefJohn117]

I'm praying it's Fable. Seriously if there was 1 specific thing I wanna see from the event it's Fable.

[CaptainHenry916]

I agree with you except for the Halo part. Halo is getting stale. Just show all new IPs

[1Victor]

Like they say “you can only do first impression once”and Microsoft messed up their by falling on their old habit of over hype under deliver now no matter how good they do (outside their cult of few hardcore fanboys that can’t see anything wrong) Microsoft is going to have a hard time to convince people they have changed for the better.

Now personally I want to see actual gameplay of new and old franchises and not been called exclusives unless they’re only on series X, just do a disclaimer like Sony did (time exclusive and available on PC) just with that they can show us they are changing for the better.
Oh I forgot most importantly the price
Editing for gloves typos

[Petebloodyonion]

I doubt they will announce the price at the moment.

[rlow1]

I wouldn't get to caught up on first impressions. Yes it's important but what's more important is how you finish it. Because that will be what people remember. I agree they need to come out swinging.

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[TommyVercetti88]

Get T.F outta here!!!

[Antnee534]

Honestly no halo will never live up to what it once was. Halo 4 was the death of the series, halo is now just a shitty clone of cods flavor of the year. Now I do hope they something to make the console worth purchasing because atm nothing is on this console that is a must buy.

[mcstorm]

I see this halo doing well as it is being hyped up more than ever before. SP was good on 4 and MP was good on 5.if they can mix them together the game could be up there with the others. For me gears 5 did that felt alot better than 4.

I do think Microsoft need to show us all the games that will be available at launch and a few that will be out on the 1st 12 moths. If they do that and all ips look good then announce the price and game pass for free for x amount of months and I can see Ms being onto a winner. That said all if buts and maybes

[neutralgamer1992]

Best way to do it is to show a lot of games, show the games which are coming out with the console, show the games which are between 12 to 18 months from launch of the console, and show some games with trailers which are more than 2 to 3 years away

The reason for this is because Sony does the same they show you what's coming now was in development and what could be expected down the road. And please put on professional event we are not looking for a zoom call. Make it a digital event just like Sony. And maybe it's time to rethink the strategy of not having any first party exclusives which are only available for next generation. You may think it sounds good on paper but in the market people will buy console for which they want to play their favorite games on. And if someone can play Halo on OG Xbox One and PC then why would they need to upgrade

I am a long time PlayStation fan and I was not happy with yesterday's conference I thought Sony under delivered. But towards the end of the conference they're really showed up and they flexed their muscles to show the development power they have.

Xbox brand is nowhere as strong as PlayStation or Nintendo so right out of the gate you are starting on the back foot. You must bring must have games and some of them only available on next generation. It's amazing to me this is Microsoft's 4th console and they have yet to have steady stream of video game IPs. That's exactly what happens when you keep depending on three to four different IPs to hold your brand

[hanko14]

and sack greenberg

[4U2NV]

It wont

[dietis_h]

im not holding my breath.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

This is gonna sound weird but I'm slighty, again SLIGHTLY less concerned with content. Then I am the structure of the show. Sony's Conference was a master class in pacing. Games got their time to shine. Games didn't get too little or too much time. Mainly because Sony had a big time window of an hour and a half.

That's what they need to do. The inside Xbox showcase set the wrong expectations. Not so much of what they showed was bad or anyhying we needed gameplay and a reason to be excited for these games.

[mrsolidsteel20]

@RazzerRedux

Yea they should definitely do that and show some gameplay for HB 2.

[rainslacker]

I think if MS was thinking of holding back, they probably changed their mind by now. But either way, it's good, because I'm curious what they have brewing as well

[ABizzel1]

Agreed those two new IPs from Initiative and Playground are what I'm interested in most from this show.

[porkChop]

Yeah, pretty much. They need to show off some gameplay of their big hitters, and show us the launch lineup. And obviously announce some more games coming within the first year.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

And reveal Lockhart finally. This is the ace in the hole on the hardware front. Software remains to be seen.

[Atomicjuicer]

We dont need or want Lockhart. We have the one x for anyone who wants to make a half step.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

No, the new RDNA2 architecture will allow different technology to be used, such as hardware accelerated Ray Tracing, which the One X can't do, and then you also get the benefit of the much better CPU and the NVMe SSD, so Lockhart isn't for nothing. Besides, AMD probably won't be producing the hardware inside of the One X for very much longer, since it's old tech.

[Sharky231]

I don’t think 3 games is gonna be enough. Especially since ones halo and one is gonna be Forza. I feel like racing games have looked so good for so long. They’ve almost lost the WOW factor. That’s just my opinion... I could be wrong.

[DiRtY]

Perfect Dark reboot (after 16 years!)
Fable IV (after 10 years since Fable III)
Halo Infinite (after 5 years since Halo 5)

Maybe a new Banjo Kazooie or a new Conker as well. Why not?

[TranceHop]

Hellblade 2 gameplay reveal would be insane!

[xboxcult]

I agree I hope they show some new gameplay from Hellblade 2, MS Flight Simulator, and Everwild.

[dumahim]

Probably won't. At least not something that will match what the final game will look like. They said it will be running Unreal 5 and that isn't available until next year.

[Wikkid666]

Hellblade 2 isn't even close to a point to show game play. That's a 2022/2023 release window.

[rdgneoz3]

They did say it was 2 years off from release, so any footage would be pre-alpha at best. It'll probably be one of the first true XSX games and not multi generational releases like they'll have for their first party games for the next 2 years.

[RaidenBlack]

Hellblade II was being recently reported that the development is shifting from UE4 to UEV.
So any gameplay if they show is subjected to change.
So expect only trailer at best similar to that of the Game Awards.

[ColdSin]

To my understanding, the shift from UE4 to the UE5 is easy according to Epic.

[chiefJohn117]

Maybe just maybe....HB2 will be UE4 on XO and UEV on XSX they say the switch is easy.

[NotoriousWhiz]

They should follow the Playstation / Nintendo direct format and show lots of game play from a variety of games, with minimal talking heads.

[Koolaidude]

Really just the Nintendo Direct format.

[Vits]

Basically show off games. But with a greater focus on their internal teams, maybe get some deals rolling with third party devs for time exclusives like Sony did.

What they should not do is reveal the price. Because Sony will definetely undercut them.

[xboxcult]

Microsoft already has a lot of 3rd party console exclusive deals. Here is a few titles that are 3rd party and are upcoming console exclusives on Xbox One and Xbox Series X ..... Scorn, The Ascent, The Falconeer, Tunic, Call Of Sea, The Medium, Second Extinction...

It makes me mad that Microsoft doesn't promote there invested games enough. Their marketing team is beyond horrible in my opinion. They invest in so many games but most people don't even know they exist until they release.

[Vits]

I mean big 3rd party games. Like what Sony did with Bethesda.

[ColdSin]

No... timed exclusives is just pure bullshit. This will only create a vicious cycle that is disasterous to the consumer in the long run. I truly hoped that Sony wouldn't go this route.

[Vits]

Unfortunately that ship already sailed. And if Microsoft want to compete they will have to do the same.

[leejohnson222]

Do you know who started timed exclusives??

[phoenixwing]

to be honest the microsoft fanbase is so faithful at this point they could just show more cgi trailers and they'd defend it. However, i'm sure they got the hint by now that they should show gameplay. It will be a hit no matter what but it won't be as big a hit as sony's presentation (that's just reality). I liked the xbox 360 but i'm putting my money on ps5 and eventually an awesome gaming pc. xbox series x makes no sense to me but i understand there are console only players and they want to only play on xbox. they definitely exist. if microsoft made their consoles only in america i'd feel patriotic enough to buy one though but they make them in china like everyone else.

@vits i'm not so sure sony is in a position to undercut them like the last generation. their ssd doesn't come cheap

[Vits]

Every fanbase have it's faithful bunch. The point is convincing the ones that are not part of that group though.

PC is my main gaming platform, but I will likely get either the PS5 or the Series X now that I have a good living room. It only depend on what of those two system will give me the best deal. As I don't have any nostalgia for either brand.

And Sony will burn money if that means moving consoles. I don't think they will let a PS3 happens again. So even if their SSD is expensive (what it really shouldn't) they will just take the hit in order to make their console the cheapest one. .

[Obscure_Observer]

@phoenixwing

"to be honest the microsoft fanbase is so faithful at this point they could just show more cgi trailers and they'd defend it. However, i'm sure they got the hint by now that they should show gameplay."

Where´s the gameplay for Horizon, Spiderman and Demon Souls, dude? Where?

[phoenixwing]

@obscure
all three of those games will play like the games before them, just upgraded. i do get the point you're making though it would have been nice to have comprehensive gameplay of all 3. here's hoping microsoft has a cool gameplay video of fable coming in july

@vits i seriously do not think that the ssd will be cheap but if i'm proven wrong all the more reason for me to celebrate on a lower price from sony

[Edito]

@Obscure

Sony has proved time and time again that they deliver on games that is why people are not talking a lot about gameplay... but Microsoft in the other hand hasn't delivered anything for an entire gen and more... Sony didn't promise gameplay for every game like Microsoft did with the Inside Xbox event, so yeah... and we all played Spider, Horizon and Souls games... so we know how the gameplay is.

[Koolaidude]

Microsoft still gets your money if you go PC fam.

[CaptainCook]

I hope to see Everwild Gameplay. Game looks like Zelda meets Lion King

[xboxcult]

Agreed BOTW with an emphasis on nature and 4 player Co-OP gameplay. I'm hyped for it.

[phoenixwing]

i was interested in the game until i saw the co-op. hopefully it's not a multiplayer required type of thing

[JCOLE13195]

I’m really looking forward to it. Really eager to see what they announce. I just really hope they emphasize gameplay for the presentation. I think I’ll do the “go in with a calm state of mind” approach like some others on here are doing.

[waverider]

Got amazing games beside halo, forza and gears. The New studios must have games running on the series x and not on nvidia 2080ti like last show. Zero crap services games like bleeding edge. Less teraflops talk and show us new i. P.

[LOGICWINS]

Scorn, The Ascent, The Medium, Call of the Sea, Tunic, Everwild, and The Falconeer are all new Xbox exclusive IPs.

Microsoft will be announcing more new IPs next month. Whether or not you choose to acknowledge them has nothing to do with Microsoft.

[waverider]

None of those are big Triple AAA games. Its seems You dont understand that. Zero of those games make You buy a console. Zero. Spiderman make You buy a console day one.

[xXxSeTTriPxXx]

Ms knows how to play to they're base.

They'll be fine

[sushimama]

Yes that's true. But they don't know how to bring other gamers over to Xbox. They lost a tonne of them this gen. My feeling is they could lose some more. But we'll see.

[Thundercat77]

Of course, just like the previous event where they received a backslash for saying they were going to show gameplay and they didn't, then went online to apologize miserably.

They definitely know how to "play" their base.

[chiefJohn117]

Technically they did show gameplay for quite a few games they even did a mash up after the criticism. Problem was it wasn't enough.

[Golfcoachh]

Come out at 399.99 price point for series X and 299.99 for a digital edition. That would be a hit.

[xboxcult]

I would love to see these prices. I just don't think it will happen. I think Series X will be $500 and the rumored Xbox Series X all digital weaker (Lockheart) will be $300.

[badz149]

$300 for 12TF hardware right now? hahaha...be ready to be disappointed then.

just so you know that the 2080 Super with just over 11TF is retailing for over $700 and the weaker RX5700XT with just over 9TF from AMD is still at $450.

just how the hell do you think that MS will be able to offer the SX digital only version, if it exist, for $300 other than by burning money?

[Parasyte]

More actual gameplay captured with the Series X and interesting new IPs

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

You say more like they've actually showed gameplay.

They have to walk before they can run.

Gameplay on xsx - not PC or target footage.

If it isn't running on xsx - don't show it. That'll do more harm than good.

[Obscure_Observer]

"If it isn't running on xsx - don't show it. That'll do more harm than good."

Really?

"If they show it - they'll show 'gameplay', not in-engine footage."

https://n4g.com/news/235051...

Where´s the gameplay for PS5´s first party games? Don´t give me bs excuses.

[chiefJohn117]

Damn, Observer exposed you

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

What like Spiderman MM? Ratchet & Clank? GT7?

What are you on about? Why would I need excuses.

Did you not see the last ms debacle? That did more harm than good.

And nothing that was shown by ms was running on xsx.

You lot are sooo dim, its actually astounding to witness.

[Sarcasm]

Show actual gameplay-gameplay of the games. Not an edited cut of maybe "expected" probably maybe something like gameplay trailer.

[Fantangoooo]

All they need to do is blow our socks off with the most insane gameplays ... butterly smooth 60fps 4k games at bleeding edge just 4 to 5 would do it

Don’t want none of that 30fps shit ...naaaa let the white tower do that. Xbox no comprende

[sushimama]

I don't think youtube is allowing them to stream anything higher than 1080p and 30fps. They'll have to stream at that and then after have the trailers on their channel with the 4k and 60 fps.

"The White Tower" Lol that's pretty hilarious saying it like that. Made me laugh LOL

[Kavorklestein]

Mixer lets us go much higher than that

[sushimama]

No one uses Mixer. Youtube is flooded, that have to cap it.

[Bruh]

Gameplay from Halo Infinite and the new Forza title. I also would love to see gameplay from the new Fable and Hellblade 2, but I doubt we'll get that. All in all Microsoft needs to show that its first party studios are at work making a ton of new AAA games

[xboxcult]

Yes gameplay of there larger first-party games running on Xbox Series X is what I want to see the most.

[lucian229]

only way they could have a good show is if they announce they are canceling the new xbox and giving up at gaming. That or actually have games this time.

[xboxcult]

Microsoft has a lot of console exclusive games coming. They got about 19 upcoming console exclusives so far and that's not counting this upcoming July's show announcements. Microsoft is just horrible at marketing games.

[lucian229]

we have heard these for the last 2 generations; i will wait till i see it.

[LOGICWINS]

That's the most ignorant comment I've heard all day.

Do you think Sony would have lowered PS NOW's subscription costs if Game Pass didn't pressure them to do so?

Do you think Sony would have given us a disc based and digital next-gen console at launch if it wasn't for rumors that Microsoft would do the same?

Do you think Sony would have taken online ecosystems on consoles seriously if it wasn't for Xbox Live's early success?

Microsoft's competition made Playstation better and vice versa. Saying that you want Microsoft out of the gaming business is the same as saying you want to pay Sony more to get less in return.

[lucian229]

So it only exists to make Playstation Better.... Lol that's a horrible reason. I know competition is good for business but honestly, Xbox hasn't been competition this Gen 😂

[xboxcult]

LOL. A nice technical gameplay showcase of the Xbox Series X's technical power would nice.

[i3eyond the Circle]

Halo Infinite, The Medium, Initiative Project, Playground project, Hellblade 2, project Mara..

Gameplay for those games would seal the deal especially if they are graphical masterpieces.. but considering what I listed above is a shortened list is mere fraction of the potential showings... there’s a 16th studio we don’t know about.

After yesterday I don’t see team Xbox shooting themselves in the foot by not being able to showcase anything that will be competitive to what we were shown yesterday. I think they are actually in a good position right now to show the world they can have cross gen games that set the bar visually and send a big old ball of contradictions over to those who said their system would be “held back”

And I bet they can afford to stream live in 4k/60... especially if it’s pre recorded.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

"there’s a 16th studio we don’t know about."

If MS does announce a new studio we need to see gameplay right out if the gate, no waiting. A AAA Japanese Studio with gameplay would do MS much needed wonders

[dekke]

PC event tho :P

[UltimateRacer]

What exclusives, there all on PC.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

All on PC that most real world ppl don't know or care about clearly. Considering the high sells the console got during quarantine months.

[RazzerRedux]

"All on PC that most real world ppl don't know or care about clearly."

Uh...yeah about that.

https://www.polygon.com/202...

And why you think the fact that consoles sold well during quarantine negates the exclusive status of games.....no idea.

From your post above:

"Have fun despite you two are in the small minority. Hardly anyone buys or suddenly switches or even upgrades to PC considering X Series will be the highest fidelity."

lol....hilarious. Everything you've seen from XSX so far has been running on a PC. And if you are worried about being in the minority then you wouldn't buy Xbox at all, now would you? Besides, where are you getting this idea that PC gamers are in the minority? There are a hell of a lot more PC gamers out there than Xbox gamers.

"Obviously if you mainly play PC then you're not going anywhere. But if you natively play console you're really not goin anywhere."

No idea what point you think you are making there.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Razzer those stats don't tell me anything. PC users are playing more of what they already play. And playing more of the same games they've been playing for the past 10+ years. Doesn't correlate or cut in to Xbox sales at all.

[RazzerRedux]

Is that why Microsoft is putting their games not just on the Microsoft Store on PC, but on Steam itself?

Like Sea of Thieves? Guess gamers on Steam are not playing that because it isn't one of those games they already play.

Oh....wait....

Sea of Thieves hits Steam, and its top-sellers list
https://www.pcgamesn.com/se...

Must be a mistake. How about Gears 5?

Gears 5 tops Steam sales chart at launch
https://www.windowscentral....

How about a Microsoft PC exclusive: Gears Tactics.

Gears Tactics already tops Steam charts, gains positive reviews
https://www.techspot.com/ne...

Of course, Halo....

Halo is Steam’s top-selling game as it finally launches on PC
https://venturebeat.com/201...

So maybe before you start yapping about how PC gamers play the same game for 10+ year, you should actually do two minutes worth of research so you don't look foolish.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@razzer "So maybe before you start yapping about how PC gamers play the same game for 10+ year, you should actually do two minutes worth of research so you don't look foolish."

Hey Genius didn't you just send me a link that more PC gamers are simply playing more of what they love? Dota, Counter Strike etc... Yeah I was going off your own link use your head. Cool already PC gamers are downloading Xbox titles. Good for MS.

"lol....hilarious. Everything you've seen from XSX so far has been running on a PC."

Just like how some X1 games were running on PC like Ryse. Remember X1 was vastly under powered can't even do 1080p. But yet Ryse launched and actually lived up to those graphics. I have a feeling X Series will be just fine don't you?

You're purposely taking things out of context to support your argument by trying to go off topic. It's said Xbox had been selling very well since Lockdown.

"Xbox One in particular not only sold four times as many units as the equivalent period in 2019, but double what it sold in 2018 for the same two month period."
https://www.console-deals.c...

If everyone is switching from Xbox to PC that you suggest then this figure would be none existent. Idc if you play on PC nice have fun but just because you choose PC doesn't mean everyone's switching. That your preference and your preference only.

"No idea what point you think you are making there."

It's very self explanatory keep reading it until you get it. If you still dont get it then that sounds like a personal problem, but don't try too hard you might strain your brain.

[RazzerRedux]

"Hey Genius didn't you just send me a link that more PC gamers are simply playing more of what they love? Dota, Counter Strike etc... Yeah I was going off your own link use your head. Cool already PC gamers are downloading Xbox titles. Good for MS."

Apparently you can't read for shit then. From the article I posted:

"Interestingly, big Steam hits like CS:GO, PUBG and Dota 2, that normally make up the top of Steam’s charts, haven’t grown monumentally as Steam’s players have increased. Instead, players have gravitated more toward other games, rather than everyone jumping into the same popular competitive multiplayer experiences. Thousands of players are moving to games like the newly released Doom: Eternal, or even 2013’s Tomb Raider reboot, which is free on Steam right now to encourage players to stay inside."

"Just like how some X1 games were running on PC like Ryse. Remember X1 was vastly under powered can't even do 1080p. But yet Ryse launched and actually lived up to those graphics. I have a feeling X Series will be just fine don't you?"

You switch subjects like babies switch diapers. WTF are you even talking about now? So XSX will be great because Ryse looked good on X1? lol...are you serious? What kind of idiotic nonsense is that? X1 got schooled this gen despite how great Ryse looked.

"You're purposely taking things out of context to support your argument by trying to go off topic. It's said Xbox had been selling very well since Lockdown."

That's rich coming from you.

"Xbox One in particular not only sold four times as many units as the equivalent period in 2019, but double what it sold in 2018 for the same two month period."

Did I even disagree with that at all? Nope. I responded to this bullshit you posted about folks not caring about PC at all. You should think before you post. Seriously.

"If everyone is switching from Xbox to PC that you suggest then this figure would be none existent. Idc if you play on PC nice have fun but just because you choose PC doesn't mean everyone's switching. That your preference and your preference only."

I never said anyone was switching from PC to Xbox. Again...more shit you are making up. I showed examples of games on Steam that are selling well and do not fit in this bullshit narrative you dreamed up:

"PC users are playing more of what they already play. And playing more of the same games they've been playing for the past 10+ years."

How can you defend that nonsense after what I posted? You are being willfully ignorant. That means you have decided that you are going to be stupid on this subject. Admit you are wrong and be more informed.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Raz Ok cool more steam PC players just like there are more console players during that time. Nice to know.

Switched the subject? Well raz you said "Everything you've seen from XSX so far has been running on a PC."

So please tell me what ARE you talkin then? Clearly I responded to you... You're confusing yourself.

I never said anyone was switching from PC to Xbox. Again...more shit you are making up. I showed examples of games on Steam that are selling well and do not fit in this bullshit narrative you dreamed up:

Good now we're on the same page. As I said before according to your leak there are more PC/ Steam users now. Glad we're agreeing it's not cutting into console sales specifically X1 because it's not just want to be clear.

[RazzerRedux]

"Switched the subject? Well raz you said "Everything you've seen from XSX so far has been running on a PC."

So please tell me what ARE you talkin then? Clearly I responded to you... You're confusing yourself."

lol....because you were bragging about XSX having the "highest fidelity" when you haven't even seen a game running on XSX yet. I'm certainly not the one confused when I have to remind you of what you said.

"Good now we're on the same page. As I said before according to your leak there are more PC/ Steam users now. Glad we're agreeing it's not cutting into console sales specifically X1 because it's not just want to be clear."

lol...I have made no claims that PC sales have or have not impacted console sales. There is no data to support either statement. You are the one making bullshit claims that PC is something people "don't know or care about clearly. Then you are started yapping about PC gamers only care about games they have played 10+ years. I mean, blatant stupidity.

You are just talking out of your ass and I've clearly demonstrated that. As I said, be more informed and less ignorant.

[thexmanone]

so stick with throttle station 5 then if you dont like it

[PrinceAli]

Go all out.. it's simple... Xbox have a lot in the pipeline so they can easily make a great show but just letting the dogs off the chain

[Petebloodyonion]

They already mentioned in the Xbox Inside's broadcast that the 1st party games would be shown on July 11th.
Now they just need to show them and let ppl decide.
Sony had a strong showing and expect Microsoft to have something similar in terms of momentum.

The real question is what's gonna be the Ratchet and Clank game for MS? Hellblade 2 could have been that game but it's already been unveiled so unless they have a lengthy Gameplay showing, I doubt it will be it.

My take is on the reveal of Conker Bad Fur Day2.

But in the end, I don't expect that Microsoft's event will snuff the PS5 momentum it will just solidify MS position as a serious player in the next generation (and that is ok).

[hanko14]

sack greenberg.

[Spurg]

yeah

[GamingSinceForever]

Show some compelling games. Preferably some new IPs.

[Kerrian]

Microsoft challenge is paramount. Can they do it? Yes. they have the money to push hard.

A great PS5 console, Spider Man Miles Morales, GT7, Horizon Zero 2, Daemon Souls 7 plus a great success with the Last of Us 2.

Microsoft knows what to do. They have to push Halo infinite, revise and expand the Halo franchise with updates and upgrades, work with the fair franchise of Gears of War and Senua Sacrifice 2. They have the tier of games. They have to commit showing game play. Microsoft needs to work insanely hard if they want a piece of the market share. Sony came in abusive.

Microsoft must review their history and go back to the 360 settlement of games. They have a chance if they commit and invest. Less talk, more delivery.

[RaidenBlack]

Well Halo Infinite gameplay and Forza 8 gameplay will be de facto shown.
Other than that I expect Hellblade II trailer (not gameplay as per the new UE4 to UEV transtition)
Fable 4 trailer(gameplay would be sweet), Initiative's game's trailer and maybe gameplay(Spencer already played early build), Moon Studios next RPG, Everwild gameplay and something from Undead Labs.
Most anticipated: What Obsidian and Compulsion are working on? And will Obsidian show any of it?
I doubt Coalition and inXile will show anything. A tease perhaps?
And finally: Will Age of Empires 4 be shown? Can start with this one and then transform the show to console only event.

[Atom666]

I think Coaltion will be used to promote the "X enhanced" stuff with Gears at 120fps. Then Gears Tactics getting a console release within XSX launch window.

I know it's all about next gen, so Wasteland 3 is still coming. I agree that inxile will likely be quiet.

[Auron]

Stream in 4k 60

[TheTony316]

Actual gameplay running on the console and something AAA other than Halo, Gears or Forza. And no webcams.

[Lon3wolf]

So a 1st party event without their biggest 1st games, ok.

[Spurg]

Basically all they need is gameplay demo

[CR7JUVE1897]

Just show first party titles with gameplay to go along with it.

[RamRod88]

They need to knock it out of the park with Halo Infinite. Playgrounds new RPG, The Initiatives new game, Hellblade 2, Everwild, Obsidian new RPG, and Forza 8. They make those announcements, people will be hyped for Series X. Anything else would be icing.

[Spikeantestor]

It's hard to imagine they will be able to compete with the sheer number of AAA exclusives Sony just showed.

[RamRod88]

Sony had a good showing, but it certainly wasn't overwhelming with AAA exclusives. It had a nice mix of Indie and AAA with most of the 3rd party exclusives being timed. I can see MS matching that if not exceeding it.

[Veneno]

If Microsoft can show off a good amount brand new 1st party IPs then that would be an edge over Sony right now.

[goldwyncq]

Spiderman, Horizon, and Ratchet were the only AAA exclusives they've shown lmao.

[DeadManMMX]

Honestly I’ll break it down. Because I feel a lot of you guys are overplaying how great yesterday was. Beginning was good. Ending was good the middle was a snooze fest with the exception of DeathLoop. Ms need to announce AAA quality titles from:

343 - Halo Infinite (an actual game demo that is actually good they have never been great at this maybe an old dog will learn a new trick)

The Initiative - Perfect Dark (short gameplay demo and cinematic with reveal)

Double Fine - Brutal Legend (maybe a remaster) sequel/Conker/Banjo/Original IP/???

Playground - Fable reboot (gameplay and cinematic reveal)

Turn 10 - Blah blah Forza look at our graphics and power blah

Obsidian - Teaser for new IP/ no need for more grounded but will probably be subjected to it.

The Coalition - New IP teaser (long long shot)

Rare - boring cartoony graphics game ( bathroom break)

Killer Instinct upgrade - dream reveal Killer Instinct X Street Fighter

InXile - new IP

Compulsion Games - teaser

3rd party and indie reveals sprinkled around

2 or 3 studio acquisitions - (DontNod, IO, Ori developers etc)

Combining Gold with Gamepass from now on.

Talk of back compat and support of of current system for 2 years. Followed by announcement of phasing out of current systems and hard price drops on current stock leading into....

Project Lockhart reveal - 250-300 system with SSD modern processor acting as the new Series S Possibly discless

Series X price reveal - 400-500

Bonus: Announcement of AAron Greenberg retirement (thunderous applause from all gamers)

If they follow my gameplan they can win. Lol.

[AizenSosuke]

Probably some interesting games.

[Father__Merrin]

Need to show gameplay but anything extended. Now that initial media has been released even on ps5 they can now slow it down and go into games and features

[Stanjara]

Cyberpunk
Hellblade
Halo
Scorn
Hollow knight silksong

Gameplay, They have to have 5 min of gameplay. Done.
No bugs life jumping, no Bambi simulators
3 new IP.
Make it 5.

[Father Murder X]

After what was shown yesterday by Sony it really isn't going to take much. They have to show the power of the system.
The hypocrisy is crazy from the Sony fanboys. Spider Man and Horizon showed no game play. let that had been Microsoft you would have never heard the end of it.

[Deathdeliverer]

I know this is going to be a shocker but both of those games showed plenty gameplay. Spider-Man isn’t even a “from the ground up” PS5 game and is more of an expansion on regular Spider-Man PS4. Him swinging around, fighting that dude, walking down the street all really look that good cause it looks that good NOW. Horizon? Yeah.... that’s gameplay and transitional sections DURING gameplay. Like in FF remake how it looks great, zooms in and cloud still looks great while he’s talking and it just backs the camera up lightly as you’re given back control? Horizon is the same way. Anyone that played Zero dawn knows 80% of this was hands on gameplay and the rest transitions gameplay because it’s looks that way NOW minus the insane foliage and effects.
Your mind was blown but it won’t even let you believe it. Both games did the same thing with the original versions.

[Dissidia]

None of the Horizon 2 presentation was gameplay. It was a great trailer but not real time, and not in engine. I’m sure the actual game play of Horizon 2 will look phenomenal though.

[Dissidia]

Even with an 11/10 show from Xbox, it will be panned as a flop of an event from those on N4G.

[Thundercat77]

They will need to show actual gameplay this time running on the Xbox series x and not on PC, just like Sony did.

They have to be clear like Sony did and say: this is running on an Xbox series x hardware.

No more misleading, no more smoke, no more hype without substance.

[russo121]

They don't have the hability to do that. Xbox is a just a sub product over-evaluated by fanboys.

[chiefJohn117]

Reveal what their studios been up too. We been waiting and wondering time to show em. Games games games simple as that

[Zombieburger638]

1. Halo Infinite needs to be amazing. 2. Show some amazing upcoming games that are releasing in the next year or two. 3. No bs TALK. Show games running on the console!

[BillyG0AT]

All I wanna see is something new when it comes to the games. Just something that's not sci-fi or a cartoony kids game and I'm in

[Elda]

If they want to make a big impact they need to show off new interesting AAA experiences that will excite newcomers to their platform. Make me & other folks that never bought an XB finally say...wow!...I've got to play those games & I'm going to buy an XBSX!

[YourMommySpoils]

Never gonna happen.

[drunkenspy007]

Bring out xbox exclusives I can't get on my PC. I know people get sensitive when someone mentions this, but it is a valid request. If there was an awesome game on xbox I couldn't get anywhere else, I'd buy an xbox, that simple.

[RamRod88]

That's not going to happen so just play the games on your PC.

[Deathdeliverer]

First, let’s get the obvious out the way. Halo, Forza, Gears all WILL be shown. Gears will be the star of the show because it, by nature, has more varied environments than Halo. Halo has always been so “plain” with the way it looks. It’s fun, but HDR on plasmas and particle effects from explosions are all I’m expecting to be shocked by with halo games at this point.

Senua will was REALLY on rails in the original. I’d like to see it’s world opened up a lot more.

A new IP that’s a FPS (not scorn because I think that’s going to let people down). Something like BLACK that’s action packed. An exclusive awesome FPS that lets you go crazy on environments and effects would be right up Xbox average users alley.

A new exclusive RPG that isn’t overly Japanese. Give up on that and trying to appeal to Japanese gamers. Stick to your strengths and make a action RPG like Phantasy Star Online. Again, you could go crazy with effects in a game like that so peoples purchase would feel justified, and you could make it online.

Lastly a new adult themed game like Alan Wake but nothing Alan Wake. Leave out the celebrities. Just make it good and original.

Have your kiddie games just like PlayStation did because games are for EVERYONE. A lot of people forget that. Not everything will appeal to everyone.

End off with features actually running on the hardware. (Or start with it) Show the main OS, a game booting up, stuff like that. I seriously believe Sony’s next show will reveal all that. Time to show the systems bulletpoints. Year is more than halfway over and launch for both systems will most likely be early November or end of October. It’s why you need me and save your money time.

[bamillington]

Anything would be better than what Sony showed last night

[Hedstrom]

They would need alot more than Halo, Gears, Forza!

[Minute Man 721]

The May event had gameplay but we are told they only showed cg trailers 😒

[ElementX]

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[ElementX]

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[Minute Man 721]

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[ElementX]

You're welcome! I didn't think anybody would try it, they'd assume it was a joke

[Father Murder X]

If what we saw of Hell Blade 2 was in game......nothing that was shown yesterday tops that nothing.

[Tex4242]

I would say make sure its professional, not like the last one where it was just a zoom call. Show actual gameplay. Maybe a 5 min or so gameplay walkthrough of a big game like Fable or Perfect Dark if they exist. Just bring it. Bring everything you've got. Dont hold back. They have enough studios now that they should be able to do two or three big games every year from launch. Let's go Next Gen!

[RamRod88]

Sony did a good job yesterday, but if there was one thing they absolutely nailed, it was the presentation. It was clean and on point. Xbox needs to make sure they match that quality. Sorry Greenberg, no crappy webcams!

[sourOG]

Show some games. Some demonstrations that make use of the new features. Maybe the UI and home screen. We really don’t ask for much lol.

[drpepperdude]

I doubt the UI will be any different than what's already on Xbox One.

[Jakens]

Thank you, fact,

[sourOG]

Why is that? It has changed for every console before. Why would they “big fax” leave it the same this time? Lol

[drpepperdude]

I have a feeling Xbox One and PS4 consoles will continue to be supported long into the next the generation as far as indie/third party games and firmware updates. It's easier to maintain one version of a operating system than creating multiple. I know the new Xbox is going to have a new boot screen like the One X had it's own but other than that I would be surprised if the interface was much different.

[sourOG]

Makes sense especially from the Xbox “family” platform aspect. I would still expect them to change the UI for all of their systems if that was the case.

[Mister_Wolf]

Just show us what those studios are working on and pack in plenty of gameplay. But still hold shit back because apparently they are doing a show every month.

[EazyC]

Sony threw down the gauntlet of all gauntlets on Thursday. I really hope MS goes all out, would be great time for gamers if MS/Sony are fighting tooth-and-nail for next gen.

[AuraAbjure]

Halo Infiinte gameplay baby

[AK91]

They can't

[Gaming4Life1981]

Halo infinite blowout, announce fable with some gameplay, forza 8, the initiative new game, killer instinct 2, $399 price and pre orders go live.

I honestly just want to see gameplay for the games like Sony did for ratchet & clank which was the highlight for me cause it was raw gameplay. I'm tired of hi res trailers with gameplay mixed in.

[Minute Man 721]

From the May event only Scorn and AC there was no gameplay

[ghostrider32]

Show some brand new upcoming games, and put Halo, Gears, and Forza on vacation.

[Yodasfavoritesoda]

Just show some good games. Easy enough

[RosweeSon]

GTA6 😂, seriously tho for me personally we all know halo and forza it’s like wondering if fifa will be there at launch. 🤦🏻‍♂️
I wanna see fresh brand new games and I play all sorts except JRPGS and strategy type games not my bag. They own Rare I wanna see Banjo3 I wanna see a new Perfect Dark 2? Blast Corps 2 series that haven’t see the light of day for entire generations a new killer instinct would be alright everyone needs a launch fighter. Racing wise tho I want Project Gotham racing back (MSR was one of the best games on Dreamcast) flight sim looks beautiful tho never gonna buy a console or even play it because looks dull as dishwater. That’s a real niche market. They need bangers galore. Less talk more action. Gameplay actual footage let the games do the talking.

[Firebird360]

I'm hoping to see f8, halo and something new.

[Games1st]

Gameplay and new ip.

[Knushwood Butt]

'There'

Quality journalism.

[Artemidorus]

Provide more games for the console.

[DaniMacYo]

Just don't show up.

[jwillj2k4]

Nothing like a second chance to make a first impression 🥴

[CosmicTraveler-]

MS needs to show games that no one has ever seen before, if they want to make some ground. Games that people actually will want to play. I'm getting a PS5 asap, as are many people, because SONY has gained blind trust from its fans. Their track record of always delivering has given them that trust. We can all agree that they will keep delivering great games since it's their only leverage against MS beefed up machines. Most of the games that Sony revealed where indies and even then some where very interesting. It's no secret that Sony are keeping their best cards close to the chest until MS shows more. MS needs to make it rain and go all out if they want to turn some heads.

[lellkay]

First party content.

[DOMination-]

Just show more than Sony had. Shouldn't he too hard.

[Mithan]

They need some stellar exclusives that make people cream their pants. If they don't have that, then who cares. Either way, they have a large hill to climb.

[starsi360]

Why is this title so badly written? ‘There’ where it should be ‘their’ and a full stop where there shouldn’t be one (between ‘July’ and ‘As’)

[CJLogix]

Easy. By having 2 events: One for their 3rd party games, and one event for all their exclusives.

[Knightofelemia]

Hopefully they add some new and interesting ip's instead of just relying on the same old franchises

[Benficaman]

Showing God games and good Gameplay. Its só easy

[spambot0815]

by re-streaming the ps5 event maybe...? ;-)

[Einhander1971]

Nothing Microsoft show will convince me I need Xbox X more than a ps5, that's the way it is.

[QuePasa87]

They really need to come out swinging in response to the PS event

[Minute Man 721]

Let people know the date

[Bnet343]

They have a lot of work to do. I do not think they will show up better than PS5s conference, but damn at least make it close. At least make Halo look like the next big thing and hold on to that if you have cause right now that's all you have.