Scorn Dev Reassures Xbox Fans on Unreal Engine 5, Says Raytracing Will Be Used on Case-by-Case Basis

The Game Director of Scorn reassured Xbox fans who might have worried after that Unreal Engine 5 PlayStation 5 demo. He also said real-time raytracing won't be ubiquitous as many had thought, and will be used by game developers on a case-by-case basis only.

[sushimama]

Scorn Dev is the new Hellpoint Dev.

[darthv72]

Does that make wccftech the new gamingbolt?

[rainslacker]

Why is this dev talking about things that aren't relevant to what they're doing? These guys partnered up with MS to promote their game so they didn't have to do interviews with two bit websites. Why are they doing interviews with two bit websites whose only interest is in asking questions that don't have anything to do with what the dev is working on?

So, to this dev, and others that may be in a similar situation.

If MS shows off your game at one of their events, and it goes over well, then don't talk to these two bit websites well known for their click bait trash. You get good exposure from MS showing your game. You make people dislike you when you interview with these sites. Not through any fault of your own, but rather, because these sites go to the extra effort to make you a catalyst for fan boy console wars.

@darth

They were always just like gamingbolt. Just more open about their Xbox bias.

[chiefJohn117]

Don't be hypocrite, it's a game dev with game development experience they're able to answer this type of stuff, which most of us already knew tbh.

[L7CHAPEL]

I think it's probably like in most interviews,
it's one of dozens of questions that they ask them, but the final product that winds up getting posted of the interview.
but then that's the focus or the focal takeaway point, the dev. may not even necessarily have been aware of that, and yeah a lot of website journalist and posters purposely do that for the clicks no doubt about it, just one more developer saying one more thing about next-gen capability, which is a hot-button topic to argue over right now.

[rainslacker]

@Chief

Up to a point sure. But why is this publication talking to this dev about things that he's not working on? We know the answer, and I have nothing against the dev answering if he's looked into it, but his answers seem like they're more trying to just make some general statement, and the interviews(and one's like them) don't really press for examples or better reasoning. Devs are answering, but devs aren't talking about their games.

@L7

Yeah, that's how these interviews play out, and sadly, devs shouldn't be so trusting of the media nowadays, because the media doesn't have their best interest in mind. They'll call up being all nice about how they want to know more about the game, the dev will be excited for some exposure, and then they'll have their words twisted to the point where people are not talking about the game, but will be mad that the dev seems to have some console war agenda. Truth is though, this dev, and most others that do these interviews, probably couldn't care less about such things, and just wanted to talk about their game or company.

[stuna1]

Talk about a hail Mary, lol.

[zypher]

That PS5 UE5 demo sure has the Xbox crowd biting their nails.

[Sol4ris]

I don't see why they would be.
It's just a multiplatform engine, and all its features will be available to be used on the XsX as well.

[tontontam0]

yup I agree that demo will work on xbox, it is just going to stutter every few seconds or there will be a lot of pop ins, not a big deal considering that xbox one owners are used to playing games with unacceptable performance on their base xbox one.

Every xbox fanboys right now are acting like they own an xbox one x, the truth is 90%of them only owns the inferior og xbox one. those 90% wont buy the series x they would buy the rumored cheaper series s.

[Sol4ris]

@tontontamo

Whatever it is you’re drinking, I urgently urge you to stop.

Because clearly, it has severely impaired your judgment ability. I’m basing that on the ridiculousness and falsehood of your post.

[mandingo]

Biting my nails for excitement cause if it looks that good on ps5 it’s gonna look better on xsx! Pleab

[tontontam0]

no doubt it will look good on xsx, but with matching 1 second stutter every few seconds.

[Ricegum]

Good luck with that slow SSD in the Xbox Series X

[mandingo]

Damn it’s funny how blind you are.

[Yodasfavoritesoda]

I’m not sure why they would. It looked nice but has already been stated that ue5 will run great on the system. Epic China talked about how they had the demo running better using a mobile 2080. I know u cannot compare nvidia to amd tflop to tflop but the 2080 max shouldn’t outperform the ps5 or series x. People want to blow that conversation off like it never happened but the technician clearly was talking about running the demo on a pc in tests.

[stuna1]

Epic themselves debunked the fake PC supposedly running UE5 on it, it was a mp4 video of the PS5 running UE5 on it.

[silenthillstrangler]

China faked something, what a surprise.

[Angrymorgan]

This I stupid, ue5 is a multiplatform engine, it will work on both ps5 and xbsx, just so happens for whatever reason they chose to showcase it on a ps5.
Game developers will optimise their game to this engine to each consoles strengths, maybe the demo runs smoother on the ps5, maybe the xbox will have better textures but doesnt load them in as fast, either way, 3rd party games will be virtually identical on each unless the developers choose to spend extra time and money making them different.
Fanboy wars are ridiculous...

[stuna1]

It was shown on PS5 because Sony developers helped to optimize Epics Unreal engine just like they did with previous ilteration.

[pornflakes]

UE5 PS5 - 1440p/ 30 FPS (9.2 TFLOPS and 10.2 with boost mode)

UE5 XSX - 4k/ 30 FPS (12 TFLOPS - constant clock speed)

Loading times: 5 SEK vs 7.5 SEK

[DJStotty]

I dont see why as Microsoft exclusives are using UE5 and the techniques showcased on the PS5, what is there to be biting about?

https://twitter.com/DMC_Rya...

Have a read at point 2 :-

1) You should 100% watch this glorious Unreal Engine 5 tech demo running on PS5.
2) Good news: Xbox Series X will also run UE5 & do everything you see here.
3) I'm a bit skeptical until it's a shipping game with AI & other game elements. It's a *tech demo*

[borneFROMblood]

Scorn devs soon will stop developing the game and just make their own website for MS news

[RpgSama]

Hahahahaha, I lost it with this comment, you won the internet for the day my friend!!

[Jigga69]

This ^^

[Sol4ris]

This is becoming ridiculous now. Every time this development team is saying something, it is subsequently turned into an article about the XsX .
People are aware that the console has hardware based RT, they are also informed enough to know that UE5 is not used in what they showed so far of the game.
Just stop.

[covolcano]

pls check this site https://covolcano.com/main/...

[silenthillstrangler]

Why is this dev chiming in on everything including tech they aren't using.

[porkChop]

They're answering the questions they're being asked. That's not their fault.

[jznrpg]

Money from MS .

[Lon3wolf]

It's a bit like people chiming in on a console they are not interested in too.

[Minute Man 721]

@ Lon3wolf

Don't know why "they" try and convince people not to get a XsX? Sony will show great looking games in 4 days and M$ will do the same a month from now.

[Lon3wolf]

@Minute Man 721

Absolutely, any "side" that does what I was referring to is mad imo. Both consoles should offer a great experience next gen, exciting times ahead.

[DEEHULK88]

Another silly article from wctwhatever

[S2Killinit]

In other news scorn developer says MS windows is a great way to stay in shape.

[L7CHAPEL]

I don't think you're going to be seeing Ray tracing in Most fast-moving online FPS games, and when you do, it won't be until at least the midpoint of the generation...

[airshiraz]

all engines will have something like lumen tech this gen .last gen lighting was a nightmare for game developers but this gen it has better quality and much easier for game developers to implement it in their games .ray tracing remains a luxury for pc gamers.or something like ps5 pro maybe

[Minute Man 721]

Haven't you paid attention? Keep believing what u posted

[IRetrouk]

Lumen does have some raytracing tech, its software based but it was there on show.

[airshiraz]

yeah i mean they use techs like lumen not full ray tracing .some hybrid techs like lumen .

[IRetrouk]

I get what you are saying, full raytracing will be expensive on any system, but I think we will see more of it than people realise, the hybrid solution is probably best between cost and actual performance/how it looks, but some devs will 100% want to use the hardware based solutions that these consoles have.

[airshiraz]

these consoles dont have raytracing dedicated chipsets like rtx cards as i know do they?

[IRetrouk]

Yeah they both have dedicated hardware for raytracing, its built into the CUs.

"Sony also shed some "light" on the hardware-accelerated real-time ray-tracing approach AMD is taking with RDNA2. Apparently, each compute unit features a hardware component called "Intersection Engine," with roughly the same function as an RT core on NVIDIA "Turing," which is to calculate the intersection of rays with geometry (such as triangles or polygons) in a scene. This combines with a fairly standardized bounding volume hierarchy (BVH) model to achieve a hybrid of ray-traced elements in an otherwise conventional rasterized 3D scene (pretty much where NVIDIA is right now with RTX). On PlayStation 5, RDNA2's ray-tracing hardware is leveraged for positional audio, global illumination, shadows, reflections, and full ray-tracing."

https://www.techpowerup.com...

This applys to both the xbox and playstation, this was just the first link that popped up for it.

[Italiano1234567]

Who cares about scorn. Its another blair witch that will be forgot about when it comes out

[TheHan]

Do you devs do you 👍🏻

[HICK]

Stupid Scorn dev is concerned since they realized they chose the wrong console to launch on.