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DF Direct: Xbox Series X Gameplay Reveal Reaction - Is This Next-Gen?

Quote: John Linneman and Alex Battaglia offer their reaction to the Microsoft Xbox Series X 'gameplay' reveal. What do they think about the games shown? Did we actually learn anything new about the capabilities of the next-gen consoles?

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Obscure_Observer1467d ago

Lol.

They can´t believe in the power of Series X. XD

russo1211467d ago

Let's wait for some community to start discredit DF as their video don't place the fridge in good perspective 8)

Obscure_Observer1467d ago

@russo121

Not happening.

DF is quite impressed with the SX´s power and performance to the point they can´t believe it will deliver target performance at 4K/60fps+DirectX Raytracing on games like Bright Memory infinite and Chorus. That´s goes without mention 120fps on DiRT 5.

RpgSama1467d ago

"they can´t believe it will deliver target performance at 4K/60fps+DirectX Raytracing"

Exactly, they can't believe it.

bouzebbal1467d ago

As I said multiple times, power is nothing if you can't take good advantage of it.. It's not about framerate first, it's about a next gen gaming experience as a whole. Xbox got it all wrong one more.. That show was an embarrassment

Eonjay1467d ago

I think it can do 4k 60 easy. I think they are doubting Ray tracing due to experience with RTX at 4k 60.

Vits1467d ago

I do agree with them that they should showed the difference between the game running on old hardware and new. Especially in regards to pop in, seamless transitions, etc....Some other commentary were also very sensible. Like ray tracing being used in just some parts of the game and not in everything. That is likely how AMD solution will work in order to not tank the resolution and frame rate to the ground.

Now their disappointment is somewhat fair, but also little naive. Yes, it's a shame that no game claimed to be running on official hardware. But at the same time, that is so rare in the industry and expecting that on a third party showcase to be the first to do it is a bit silly.

rainslacker1466d ago

They never really showed the games running. Mostly just CGI trailers. Even if it was running in real time on the system itself, we all know that that doesn't equate to how things look in game.

Next gen will be impressive graphically. It just needs to be shown eventually. All this bluster over how it doesn't impress, or MS screwed it all up with this showing is really pointless. Within a few months, we'll start seeing more meaningful showcases of next gen. I think people are just bored or impatient.

russo1211467d ago (Edited 1467d ago )

Sorry to correct you, but this is "MS Next-Gen". True Next-Gen will start with PS5!

Wotbot1467d ago

The PS5 is weaker, the games are only going to look less impressive and run technically inferior version on multi platform games

jukins1467d ago

@Wotbot this is true but which company is touting power power power. This will "hurt" Microsoft more than playstation in the short term. Especially if ps5s custom features do what cerny intended. We shall see. I think the majority of gamers will be happy with next gen. It will only be the hardcore minority who will really be concerned. I consider myself hardcore and I have realistic expectations. Never did I really think either thebps5 or xsx would really be outclassed a 2080i which at the moment is the 4k standard and even that it struggles with.

Babadook71467d ago (Edited 1467d ago )

“The PS5 is weaker”

Overall, no. PS5 has the more advanced design due to its SSD and I/O.

Vasto1466d ago

@Wotbot

Agree totally with everything you said.

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leejohnson2221467d ago

No games running on the hardware you expect your fans to upgrade to, what a joke. Someone at ms must have seen this before it went live and gave it the OK. Ms are not new to the industry this is a huge mistake and re uploading your video confirms it

Wotbot1467d ago

@Jukins

I think Sony’s disastrous tech reveal was the worst I’ve ever seen.

And Sony has gone AWOL ever since, it must have been bad.

You are making too much out of this, MS real hand is next month, most people making the biggest negative comments are pro Sony as to be expected.

MS has the more powerful machine, that’s a big deal, which means Sony’s multi platform games probably won’t perform as well.

jukins1466d ago (Edited 1466d ago )

Disastrous? It was a gdc talk turned into a ps5 reveal. Maybe the tech jargon went over your head. As far as Sony going silent. . . Notnonly have they not been totally silent, dual sense 5, Sony is still working on closing out the current gen with big games. Not just triple aaa but ALL games ton of top notch vr games coming to ps5.

Microsoft is, for lack of better term, desperate after getting completely dominated this gen. They have to as much next gen info out as they can because honestly they have nothing else at least until the holidays with forza and halo.

Microsoft had the power advantage with the xbox 1 x. And I'll let you figure out if that helped Microsoft. Been 3+ years already of xbox having the power narrative soooo its really not a big deal lol. Multiplats on xbox 1 x have outperformed ps4pro multiplats, for the most part, for over 3 years. Why all rhe sudden now is the power gonna matter? Thwres a bigger power gap between the ps4pro and xbox1x than there is ps5 vs xsx

You say I'm making a big deal out of this bit if microsoft is touting how powerful its console and it doesn't meet expectation vs a lower powered playstation where Sony is setting expectations a little more realistically just saying 4k 60fpa capable. Microsoft out taking 4k 120fps that messaging just like this gen will hurt them the less the live up to expectations.

starchild1467d ago (Edited 1467d ago )

These are early cross gen games and we haven't seen much actual gameplay so you can't accurately judge them anyway. What they did show indicates that they will be ahead the bulk of current gen games, but not to the level that we will see after developers have had more time with the hardware.

Late gen games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Ghost of Tsushima will be cross gen games essentially and will be more graphically advanced than the vast majority of current gen games as well. Whether you call something next gen or not is kind of irrelevant. What I mean is that "current gen" games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Ghost of Tsushima will look much better than some "next gen" games made by smaller developers.

Wotbot1467d ago

MS put the hardware out there, they don’t control what developers produce for it, there was enough games of interest as a whole.

Bright Memory looked good which DF both said it was a good way to start.

Just stating the obvious but Ray tracing and true 4k at 60 are definitely next gen which they are stating for Bright Memory.

leejohnson2221467d ago

Don't be childish it's called inside xbox. Microsoft are not new to this industry, this is their fault as it had to have been viewed by them first. Games running sub 30 fps some steam games already out. Nothing running on the x.
What a disaster. This makes me worry for next gen on both systems

Wotbot1467d ago (Edited 1467d ago )

Please behave yourself, you are acting like your just lost your favourite toy.

A disaster is what happened to Sony’s tech reveal, now that was shocking, I’m not too sure why they would want to set the self destruct button?

MS revealed some really interesting games and it only makes sense not to show the best this month when you know Sony are going to reveal their weaker console next and save the better games later.

Now get over yourself and run along like a good boy and do not bother me again, unless it’s of some interest which I doubt.

masterfox1467d ago

"there was enough games of interest as a whole."

Yes there were lots of games, but not a single one the shows a reason to buy a next gen xbox.

Wotbot1467d ago

Wait till next month.

Sony haven’t shown anything to make you want to by their console either.

I am hoping next month will be huge for the both of them.

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4U2NV1467d ago (Edited 1467d ago )

Sony have yet to do a "tech reveal" what they did was a developer conference. So no, people like you wouldnt get any of it because your not a developer are you.
For a next gen console reveal the whole things was extremely lame. sonys silent stance on their console is like there own publicly stunt themselves, they know that EVERYONE who is a gamer wants to know what the ps5 will look like tear down, final spec sheet, games and gameplay etc even the xbox fanboys and sony haters want to know what ps5 is all about lol

Wotbot1466d ago

Oh maybe were asleep for the tech reveal part of the conference, I would understand it was so boring.

So let me confirm again what tech was revealed and at that moment for the time to the world.

CPU: AMD Zen 2-based CPU with 8 cores at 3.5GHz (variable frequency)
GPU: 10.28 TFLOPs, 36 CUs at 2.23GHz (variable frequency)
GPU architecture: Custom RDNA 2
Memory interface: 16GB GDDR6 / 256-bit
Memory bandwidth: 448GB/s
Internal storage: Custom 825GB SSD
IO throughput: 5.5GB/s (raw), typical 8-9GB/s (compressed)
Expandable storage: NVMe SSD slot
External storage: USB HDD support (PS4 games only)
Optical drive: 4K UHD Blu-ray drive

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Hellblade 2 Review Embargo Lifts On Launch Day

The review embargo for Hellblade 2 appears to lift on the same date as the launch of the game, just an hour before it's available.

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blackblades1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Reviews dont usually spoil its usually the players that get it early spoils it

Cacabunga1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Like all other games being reviewed before launch day ?

This game will disappoint many players. Ninja Theory’s last game

Barlos1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

A well written review normally won't spoil anything though.

Come on, we all know it's usually not a good sign when the review embargo lifts on launch day. Doesn't mean to say the game is going to be bad or anything, but it does often point to a lack of confidence.

Tacoboto2h ago

That's not a good sign.

Review codes have been sent out as of 8 hours ago (according to Tom Henderson on X) so at least they aren't withholding those... But you'd think with confidence they'd want positive reviews to get buzz going online the weekend before release.

... But if they're expecting mid reviews, yeah sure lift that embargo when most people are asleep.

Kornholic1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

MS might be withholding review codes from more critical reviewers to inflate the launch window Metascore. Just like they did with Starfield.

TheColbertinator1h ago

Nice. I could speedrun it by midnight and go to sleep after.

Flakegriffin1h ago

Zero marketing and embargo lifts when the game launches?

No confidence from team Xbox.

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Starfield's new Xbox performance modes are thoughtful and comprehensive

Digital Foundry : Bethesda's Starfield was generally a well-regarded RPG, but the game's 30fps target on consoles was the subject of some controversy. The game's massive scope arguably justified that 30fps refresh rate, with only high-end PCs capable of hitting 60fps and higher, but now Bethesda has changed course and opened the floodgates on Xbox Series X consoles following significant optimisation work. Players can now independently select performance and visuals modes at arbitrary frame-rates. How exactly do these new combinations fare, and is 60fps really a possibility after it was explicitly ruled out before?

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darthv724h ago

900p in performance mode for SX.... I'd assume a 5pro would at least hit 1080p if not more.

jwillj2k43h ago

It’s a point, click and load game. Stop with all the massive scale bullshit. Only thing massive is the number of junk items they decided to throw in the game.

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