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Assassin's Creed Valhalla Trailer Showcases The Problem Between Cinematics And Gameplay

Richard Bailey Jr. of The Koalition writes: The last two days have been very eventful for Ubisoft with the official revelation of Assassin’s Creed Valhalla as the next major installment in their popular action RPG series. From Wednesday’s brilliantly orchestrated BossLogic setting reveal live stream to yesterday’s visually breathtaking cinematic world premiere trailer, it’s evident based on fan reactions that Ubisoft Montreal has succeeded in getting many excited to explore the trials and tribulations of a male or female Viking raider in 873 AD.

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rbailey1474d ago

I can certainly understand being hyped for a game but this is a cinematic trailer and not a fair representation at all of what the final product will be. Ubisoft still has a lot to show us regarding this game and perhaps next week's Inside Xbox stream should resolve that issue. We can be excited about the concept but its a bit premature for anyone to think this game will look exactly like this on next-gen consoles.

Jin_Sakai1474d ago

We shouldn’t have any CGI trailers next generation. It’s time to use real gameplay to represent your games!

jivah1472d ago (Edited 1472d ago )

Why not. I enjoy the shit out of a good cgi trailer if done properly. Sets the tone. It was everywhere for wow. And i enjoyed the hell out of the years i spent on that game. And even looked forward to the cgi. I mean should ubisoft have shown gameplay along with it sure but as long as they show gameplay eventually i dont mind cgi trailers. Gets the imagination going.

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DJStotty1472d ago

@Jin

Like they did with Last of Us 2 as well you mean?

starchild1471d ago

Sure, if a company used only pre-rendered CGI trailers to represent their game it would be an issue, but lots of games get CGI trailers at some point and it doesn't bother me. As long as plenty of gameplay trailers are shown before the game releases I don't think it's an issue.

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-Foxtrot1473d ago

Best way to look at it is Assassins Creed Unity with what they showed off, what they hyped up, what they bigged up feature wise and what it actually ended up releasing like.

I mean look at the main Elise reveal, great trailer, awesome song, Woodkid again

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Prince-Ali1472d ago

Im sorry but unity is ACTUALLY a good game.. it launched rough but no where NEAR as bad as it's reputation became. Also that trailer is f**king amazing loool.. look how much more like Assassin's Creed that trailer looks and feels than the nonsense we have gotten since Origins...

Lilrizky1472d ago

Despite performance problems AC Unity looked absolutely amazing. It even looks better than Odyssey in some areas

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Thunder_G0d_Bane1472d ago

I'm so tired of bullshit cinematic trailers but the problem is the gamers that hype this shit up when they've shown 0 gameplay.

It happens all the time and we need to start blaming the gaming community for accepting this bullshit that's why these companies do this. Cause gamers hype it up then it's backlash an disappointment when the game doesn't live up to the cinematic trailer lool like it was ever going to.

BigTrain1471d ago (Edited 1471d ago )

Totally agree. This has been going on ever since CGI trailers became popular. I believe the Tekken series for PS1 is what really made CGI a staple for console games. It was cool at one point but quickly became the marketing departments crutch. Games for awhile now announce themselves with zero gameplay. I personally could care less when I see zero gameplay in a trailer unless the trailer happens to be in game graphics otherwise my attitude is call me when you have something real to show me. With the power of even the last generation this practice should have become less popular but it still remains. I ultimately feel let down because real gameplay never matches what CGI trailers show so what's the point but to hype up people for something that they'll never truly get? Hype.

wwinterj1472d ago

@jivah agreed. Sure it's not what the game will look like but it certainly gives a idea of what to expect in terms of gameplay, setting and so on. We will see actual gameplay this week so it's fine. I don't feel Ubisoft needs to show everything though.

DJStotty1472d ago

You can see the gameplay for yourself on 07/05/20 on the Xbox event :)

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SwiffEpics1474d ago

This is the same company that showed us an incredible looking Watch Dogs reveal trailer and the final game was heavily scaled back. It's important to see actual gameplay before being sold on a game. But based on previous Assassin's Creed games, I'm sure it will be good.

Profchaos1472d ago

That trailer however was gameplay that was why I was so annoyed if it was a obvious cinematic like the Valhalla trailer or hellblade I'd accept it and move on but it was a target render and it became clear as day closer to release that they were in no way capable of reaching that target on anything but the highest end PC's.

So they scaled back massively and even nerfed the PC version until modders got it running as intended.

Same with countless other games ubi has released like rainbow six siege and far cry 3

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Christopher1474d ago

***When you add the fact that Assassins Creed Valhalla is one of the first major next-gen titles that we know about, that makes it even more puzzling for me as to why they would choose to debut a cinematic trailer first as opposed to a proper gameplay showcase.***

Because they're not allowed to show off the best footage of it and they don't want to show off footage of it on Xbox One X.

Expect gameplay at Microsoft's upcoming digital event.

anonymousfan1474d ago

I agree totally they could gave showed PC footage but maybe they couldnt either due to the marketing deal with microsoft. Cant wait to see some proper next gen gameplay!!! Totally hyped for next Friday and future sony presentations.

stupidusername1472d ago

Not to mention that the cinematic trailers for almost all the Assassin’s Creed games have been incredibly successfull marketing campaigns. They reach millions upon millions of people and get tons of news coverage. The Witcher 3 did the same thing in its marketing strategy.

Considering how much coverage this cinematic trailer has been it has yet again proved successfull, and tons of people will watch the xbox livestream on friday because they want to see how it plays.

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Profchaos1472d ago

They probably have an agreement to show of the game during inside Xbox this week and don't want to violate that contract but also wanted to have their own space to reveal it without being lumped in which the the multiple reveals this week.

AngelicIceDiamond1474d ago

I dunno when AAA devs are gonna retire the CGI formula. It's been a huge problem since 7th gen. I get it, it's meant to paint the picture, draw hype, what to expect. But this needs to be at least in game engine. Just like God fall and HBII. Even if it's not presentable as the final game at least the in game assets are real and running on these consoles. Perhaps last gen is indeed holding them back. Either way CG trailers need to go.

Melankolis1472d ago

I remember years ago Tomonobu Itagaki, former Chief of Team Ninja (Koei Tecmo) said that it's not that they refuse the idea to make in-game ending scenes of Dead Or Alive games completely, but they couldn't do it because they didn't have enough resources (artists, engineers, time) to do that. So, they have to outsource to make those ending scenes by hiring 3D animation studios from outside the company.

Not that it always the reason, but that's just an example on maybe why we still see CGI movie in games even today.

Profchaos1472d ago (Edited 1472d ago )

Hell blade 2 was cinematic possibly taken from in game cinematics but it was not gameplay.

AngelicIceDiamond1472d ago (Edited 1472d ago )

Not gameplay. According to DF it was in engine with doctored effects in some scenes than others. Like Senua was rendered in engine. But some of the vast landscapes were more doctored with CG. I have no doubt the game will look similar to the trailer considering the first one looked good graphically.

Ryse and The Order were in game engines and that was early last gen. There should be no excuse for none CG trailers in 9th gen consoles especially with the power were told by MS and Sony. ACV makes a good movie trailer but I'm not sold on the game yet.

SyntheticForm1472d ago

Ryse looked great on an OG console.

Crytek squeezed that underpowered console and showed what the Xbox One was capable of in the hands of competent developers.

Nobody else squeezed it quite as well, I thought, which is a shame.

TheHateTheyGive1472d ago

Next gen graphically will not be much of a jump, sure the cpu next gen will be miles better than current gen, but the GPU not so much. Diminished results.

Hungryalpaca1472d ago

The graphics jump won’t be massive due to targeting 4k. It requires FAR more power and leaves little headroom for much else. It’s very demanding.

People tend to forget this.

fathertime44641472d ago

Um both the xsx and the ps5 have the head room this time around for 4k assets all running at pc ultra

Melankolis1472d ago (Edited 1472d ago )

Agree.
Or it will be massive jump but 30fps with slowdown here and there for AAA games. Just like we always have in every generation.

And i don't mind if devs will go to sub 4K for better graphics/performance. Sub 4K still look very good IMO.

--bienio--1472d ago

Of course. We already got this on PC.

starchild1471d ago

Game graphics have a very long way to go before matching pre-rendered CGI in movies. The improvements that will be made this generation will be substantial and easily appreciated.

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Modern Games Are Getting Too Long

While there’s a lot to love about modern video games, there is one trend — particularly in the AAA space — that tends to grate: their length.

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GoodGuy0949d ago (Edited 49d ago )

Games are coming out with too much fluff and side activities that are horribly dull. That's my main issue with all these open world games. Open world should be about exploration, discovery and wonder, not have some stupid 10s or 100s of boring activities spread throughout.

IAMRealHooman47d ago

100% agree
All these ubisoft titles, Farcry, AC, Ghost recon, boast huge maps, but with the same, 3 missions or the same base to clear 100s of times. Hour 1 of any of those titles is the same as hour 100, there big for the sake of being big, with the illusion of player freedom, where we really want depth and player expression.

Ninver46d ago

Give me a solid 15-20 hour engaging single player driven IP any day. Life's too short you dig.

isarai47d ago

I stopped buying overfluffed games like a decade ago. Cant stand games with the Ubisoft mindset of just filling maps with uselss collectibles and fodder. Make it mean something. Ill gladly take 1/4 size of the map and 1/10th the "content" if it all meant more, were more unique and greater affect on your progression.

Abnor_Mal47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Well people complained like the world was ending when a few games were six to ten hours of gameplay. Developers listened and started making longer games full of repetitive gameplay, time wasting fetch quest and other forms of bloat. In doing so they were able to justify the high cost of a game being sold to the customers at seventy dollars or more.

H947d ago

Filler, it's like a 80 episodes show where only the first and last episodes actually matter

Inverno47d ago

It's been a problem with pretty much every modern AAA game all through last gen and this gen. God forbid you point it out tho because all these big games are masterpieces and people lose their minds if you criticize them. Death Stranding is a fetch quest fest, but people will die defending it cause it's a "masterpiece".

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The Best Open World Games on PS5

Like a huge game world to truly get absorbed into? GameSpew has rounded up the best open world games on PS5.

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Don't let the Assassin's Creed Free Weekend Sneak up on You

This weekend from August 10-14, players can play for free Assassin’s Creed II, Brotherhood, Revelations, Black Flag and Valhalla on Xbox, PlayStation and PC (availability dependent on platform).

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dumahim279d ago

Thanks for the warning. I sure would have hated to have been surprised by installing a ubisoft game on accident.

Profchaos279d ago

Because you can't play all the games on every subscription already

KillBill279d ago

Valhalla is not on GamePass.

anast279d ago (Edited 279d ago )

I like Valhalla. The others haven't aged well.