Xbox Series X Storage Drives Look a Lot Like This Sony PS5 Patent

Expandable SSD storage is a thing

[Jimboms]

They're looking more and more like the same console in a different box.

[darthv72]

No doubt the PPS5 will also support external USB for older games (like the SX).

[Eonjay]

I've been saying it was the same since E3

[fiveby9]

The consoles will be very similar hardware wise. Not identical but similar. Except for the exclusive games....

[Babadook7]

They look the same. Who copied who?

[Unspoken]

It's been the same for the past gen. They're custom SoC computers now. Ain't complaining though as both are pushing new features that rival gaming PCs.

Making this mandatory is a double edged sword as games can be forced into using the new memory access features but consumers will also be forced into using their branded peripherals. Maybe allow and 3rd party SSD/nvme that meets spec? Don't see it coming though as the connector is proprietary.

[Kumakai]

to be fair, these are just NVMe cards. With the adoption of 4k and beyond, higher rez textures etc, it was only a matter of time before they had to ditch platter drives and their horrendously slow speeds. I'm surprised the new machines even have optical drives... i guess for blu-ray's, but once you taste the speed of NVMe, an optical disc will really show its age for anything other than movies.

I'm also slightly convinced xbox is going to have the hardware advantage this year. Sony might have access to RDNA2 like MS (if they don't cheap out and use an older 1x version), but on top of that MS still has DirectML up its sleeve. Thats an MS thing only. If the Series X has this in addition to an extra TFLOP of gpu power (if the ps5 leaks are true at 11 FLOPS) MS will get a lot more mileage out of that 1 extra (and the 11 before it) to make it feel like its punching above its weight. Sony will need an equivalent - especially if they have a lower powered gpu

[frostypants]

Good riddance to platter HDDs as anything other than archiving. Freaking 1980s tech bottleneck that refused to die.

[darthv72]

The optical disc is just for storage and still represents an inexpensive medium for high capacity installations.

[sprinterboy]

Ms has direct ml but playstation will have there own version just like directx and opengl.

[waverider]

Dude,dont talk before. Even a lower powered gpu can beat one with more teraflops. Nobody knows nothing about the PS5. The only thing we know is that ssd will be faster then the x

[SamPao]

that was for a kids toy.... https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

[darthv72]

both can be correct. No doubt that toy uses carts but then so can the PS5. It's just a difference of the tech inside that cart casing. Hell... they could make the PS5 memory expansions look just like the PS memory cards of old. That would be sweet actually, and very fitting to the PS legacy.

[CaptainHenry916]

It's going to come down to the first party exclusives next generation :)

[1Victor]

@captainHenry916 🤫 don’t say anything let them hope beyond reality that power will win over dedicated exclusive games build for the PS5

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

That's always the case - just one has better games, which is also - always the case. It's also why I struggle with how others come to the conclusion that the inferior product somehow is the better product.

Especially given the parent companies track record.

Looking forward to tomorrow.

[silenthillstrangler]

except one will have amazing games.

[blackblades]

They gonna make money off those things, or maybe fail like the vita memory cards which were custom memory stick for it just like these and expensive just like these gonna be.

[Fist4achin]

The Vita proprietary memory was so expensive in comparison to regular memory cards out there. I hope they are priced reasonably.

[darthv72]

I don't know why they had to make a new memory card specifically for the Vita when they already had the M2. My PSP Go uses a 16gb M2 and it is the same physical size and shape as the vita card (but as if mirror flipped). Maybe because the M2 was like the MSPDuo (meaning any company could make one), and Sony wanted to control the vita cards so they made them just slightly different??? Performance wise they are pretty much the same so, go figure.

[kneon]

I expect it was mostly to do with deterring hacking. Not that they could stop serious attempts just with a new card format, but it would be harder for the average hacker to do.

[rainslacker]

They did it so they could encrypt the cards and try and prevent piracy. Everything questionable about the vita that it got criticized for, outside the oft used no games BS, was designed around locking the system down. The memory chips in the vita memory card were just standard memory modules, but the form factor, pin connections, and encryption chip were all proprietary.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

It was a disaster - it would be interesting to know who proposed and approved those cards.

[KillBill]

It is exactly what Sony does. They like to create proprietary hardware that requires users to source their own well for what they need instead of others that have copied their past propitiatory hardware attempts.

[isarai]

This patent was for a kids toy, not for PS5

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

[SamPao]

sheesh thanks, sometimes I just wish at least journalists would do their job. but you have to look for the commentator with the brain.

[sprinterboy]

The leak was disguised imo as a toy but hinting at the playstation but did the toy picture so they didn't get sued? Maybe?

[isarai]

@sprinterboy

Nah, doubt a company would design and produce a product just to cover up a leak of an accessory to a game system. Not to mention the time between the leak and the toy reveal is nowhere near enough time to design, prototype, produce, and market an electronic toy.

[ocelot07]

Hopefully it's not propitiatory. We ll remember the Vita memory cards those prices where a joke.

[darthv72]

I don't know of anything else on the market that uses these so... they would be proprietary (design, not technology).

[Larrysweet]

Well know tommorrow

[isarai]

These were confirmed to be for a toy though.

https://www.tweaktown.com/n...

[Kumakai]

They're just NVMe storage... Too expensive for consoles until recently (and thats still debatable if they are). Maybe Sony and MS will make the ports proprietary but that would be the only patented part unless they have some secret voodoo underneath. as far as i know the the only voodoo of NVMe is just its balls fast brute force speed and a bus to let it get there.

[sprinterboy]

The toy memory stick was real they just disguised it as a ps5 leak imo so they didn't get sued.

[CrimsonWing69]

Memory Cards making a come back

[neomahi]

This is a brilliant idea to solve the memory crisis. Would be cool if PS5 looks like the SEGA Saturn with the RAM cart expansion.

[neomahi]

Sony will get royalties for everyone Microsoft sells, probably worth it in Microsofts eyes to keep up with Sony given how much money Microsoft has to dump into crap like this. Microsoft can't afford to fall beyond this time around at any cost, even if it means ripping off every idea Sony has to mirror Sony's console and not lose.

[3-4-5]

Just larger versions of the Gamecube memory cards

[anubusgold]

Its just a memory stick or a cartridge not a new idea lol.

[MasterCornholio]

I'm guessing that Sony will do something similar if they want expandable SSD storage.