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NVIDIA adds five new games to GeForce Now, including Nioh: Complete Edition

NVIDIA has announced that five new games have been added to its cloud gaming service, GeForce Now. These five new games are: Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIV, Dead or Alive 6, Nioh: Complete Edition, Deadliest Catch: The Game and Dungeon Defenders: Awakened.

Neonridr1521d ago

hopefully it's asking for permission from the devs at least.

SegaGamer1521d ago

They shouldn't have to. It's totally ridiculous that devs have a problem with this.

Neonridr1521d ago

so you are ok with the fact that the money goes to nvidia and not to any of the game devs that people are playing on it? Or the fact that they weren't even checking with devs if it's ok that they allow their games to be used via this service?

CaptainCook1521d ago

Nvidia doesn't own steam and the games. They need to ask devs permission.

SegaGamer1521d ago (Edited 1521d ago )

@Neonridr

Yes, I am fine with that. The devs already received my money when I bought the game on the store they sold it on. Why should they receive more money just because I am renting a pc to play those games? It's not like Nvidia are selling those games and taking a chunk of the money themselves, they are just renting us a pc so we can access our Steam account and play our games.

If this is a problem for devs, then what about Xcloud? It's basically the same thing. Microsoft are going to allow us to stream our xbox games library on multiple devices, like pc's, laptops, tablets, phones, maybe even other games consoles, this is the same thing Nvidia are doing with Steam and other game launchers on pc.

Devs and publishers are just being greedy, this is what it comes down to.

RazzerRedux1521d ago

Geforce Now is essentially renting you remote access to a PC with Steam installed. Devs should look at this from the perspective that it will be bring more value to their game via accessibility and make it a more attractive purchase. Unfortunately some of these devs want compensation for what is essentially doing nothing. There is no work involved for the dev. The person has to have already bought the game for it to be on the service. Devs are definitely being greedy. This isn't about "asking permission". It is about getting paid. Again, for doing nothing.

TheGamez1001520d ago

Exactly. You can already stream any pc game locally using any 3rd party app. I don't see the harm in it if theres a company as well known as nvidia to allow us to stream games over the cloud to play any games we've already paid for. If anything, this would boost sales for companies lol.

ocelot071517d ago

They shouldn't have to ask. All Nividia is doing it giving people access to powerful PC's. You don't even have to pay Nvidia money to get access to them. The devs have all ready gotten our money for buying the game on steam.

Did developers ask blockbuster for money for renting out consoles back in the day? It's the same thing Nvidia are allowing people to access PC's to play there paid for games.

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Atom6661520d ago

It's hard to take the devs and pubs side on this.

The real arguments from the devs who are against it are based on their inability to plan out how they monetize their games. That is certainly a valid reason not to want get on board with a service like this, but it's hard to side with them.

We paid them for their game. People who might not be able to afford a good pc may be inclined to purchase a game they otherwise couldn't. Nvidia foots the bill to expand the reach of the current storefronts like Steam. Those are the positives I see.

For the devs, going on GN may limit their opportunities to sign exclusive agreements with your Stadias or PSnows. It may also limit their impact of selling ports -- namely taking a PC game down to mobile. I'd say they're concerned about the quality of the experience degrading their work, but these are all scalable PC games so that seems disingenuous.

That's the crux of their argument though. They lose some control over the future revenue streams. I get that, but it's not very compelling imo.

So no, they shouldn't get a cut from Nvidia. Yes, Nvidia should seek permission to avoid being sued.

Abriael1515d ago

Should every PC manufacturer or rental agency ask for permission to let their customers install steam games they have already purchased?

Yours is as silly a take as it comes.

Neonridr1515d ago

are people not paying Nvidia to use this service? Shouldn't the devs or publishers at least be notified that this service is planning on supporting their titles? I mean Nvidia doesn't own any of the rights / licenses to these games. How is that a silly take?

Abriael1515d ago

@neondir: are people not paying PC manufacturers and rental companies to use their hardware?

No. Devs should not need to be notified, just as much as no one needs to notify them to let people install games they *already own and regularly purchased* on any other hardware.

Nvidia does absolutely nothing else than providing a virtual machine to install the game on. If anything, devs have everything to gain from this unless they simply want people to double-dip, in which case, F them, and it's not to "pay respect."

Blu3_Berry1520d ago

It's really stupid they need to ask permission for this as all it does is gain access to your library of games you already own. Instead it seems they want people to double dip. It's really sad and it shows their true colors.

kryteris1519d ago (Edited 1519d ago )

Should not have to ask for anything, this is the same as a visit to a local internet cafe. The only difference is some features are disabled which prevent the user from cheating, something pc has needed for a long time.

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RonsonPL1d 8h ago

Oh wow. How surprising! Nvidia overpriced their RTX cards by +100% and AMD instead of offering real competition, decided to join Nvidia in their greedy approach, while not having the same mindshare as Nvidia (sadly) does. The 7900 launch was a marketing disaster. All the reviews were made while the card was not worth the money at all, they lowered the price a bit later on, but not only not enough but also too late and out of "free marketing" window coming along with the new card generation release. Then the geniuses at AMD axed the high-end SKUs with increased cache etc, cause "nobody will buy expensive cards to play games" while Nvidia laughed at them selling their 2000€ 4090s.
Intel had all the mindshare among PC enthusiasts with their CPUs. All it took was a competetive product and good price (Ryzen 7000 series and especially 7800x3d) and guess what? AMD regained the market share in DYI PCs in no time! The same could've have happened with Radeon 5000, Radeon 6000 and Radeon 7000.
But meh. Why bother. Let's cancell high-end RDNA 4 and use the TSMC wafers for AI and then let the clueless "analysts" make their articles about "gaming demand dwingling".

I'm sure low-end, very overpriced and barely faster if not slower RDNA4 will turn things around. It will have AI and RT! Two things nobody asked for, especially not gamers who'd like to use the PC for what's most exciting about PC gaming (VR, high framerate gaming, hi-res gaming).
8000 series will be slow, overpriced and marketed based on its much improved RT/AI... and it will flop badly.
And there will be no sane conclusions made at AMD about that. There will be just one, insane: Gaming is not worth catering to. Let's go into AI/RT instead, what could go wrong..."

Crows901d 4h ago

What would you say would be the correct pricing for new cards?

Very insightful post!

RonsonPL22h ago

That's a complicated question. Depends on what you mean. The pricing at the release date or the pricing planned ahead. They couldn't just suddenly end up in a situation where their existing stock of 6000 cards is suddenly unsellable, but if it was properly rolled out, the prices should be where they were while PC gaming industry was healthy. I recognize the arguments about inflation, higher power draw and PCB/BOM costs, more expensive wafers from TSMC etc. but still, PC gaming needs some sanity to exist and be healthy. Past few years were very unhealthy and dangerous to whole PC gaming. AMD should recognize this market is very good for them as they have advantage in software for gaming and other markets while attractive short term, may be just too difficult to compete at. AI is the modern day gold rush and Nvidia and Intel can easily out-spend AMD on R&D. Meanwhile gaming is tricky for newcomers and Nvidia doesn't seem to care that much about gaming anymore. So I would argue that it should be in AMDs interest to even sell some Radeon SKUs at zero profit, just to prevent the PC gaming from collapsing. Cards like 6400 and 6500 should never exist at their prices. This tier was traditionally "office only" and priced at 50$ in early 2000s. Then we have Radeons 7600 which is not really 6-tier card. Those were traditionally quite performant cards based on wider than 128-bit memory bus. Also 8GB is screaming "low end". So I'd say the 7600 should've been available at below 200$ (+taxes etc.) as soon as possible, at least for some cheaper SKUs.For faster cards, the situation is bad for AMD, because people spending like $400+ are usually fairly knowledgable and demanding. While personally I don't see any value in upscallers and RT for 400-700$ cards, the fact is that especially DLSS is a valuable feature for potential buyers. Therefore, even 7800 and 7900 cards should be significantly cheaper than they currently are. People knew what they were paying for when buying Radeon 9700, 9800, X800, 4870 etc. They were getting gaming experience truly unlike console or low-end PC gaming. By all means, let's have expensive AMD cards for even above $1000, but first, AMD needs to show value. Make the product attractive. PS5 consoles can be bought at 400$. If AMD offers just a slightly better upscalled image on the 400$ GPU, or their 900$ GPU cannot even push 3x as many fps compared to cheap consoles, the pricing acts like cancer on PC gaming. And poor old PC gaming can endure only so much.

MrCrimson19h ago

I appreciate your rant sir, but it has very little to do with gpus. It is the fact that the PS5 and Xbox are in end cycle before a refresh.

RonsonPL5h ago

Yes, but also no. AMD let their PC GPU marketshare to shrink by a lot (and accidentally helped the whole market shrink in general due to bad value of PC GPUs over the years) and while their console business may be important here, I'd still argue their profits from GPU division could've been much better if not for mismanagement.

bababooiy13h ago

This is something many have argued over the last few years when it comes to AMD. The days of them selling their cards at a slight discount while having a similar offering are over. Its not just a matter of poor drivers anymore, they are behind on everything.

Tody_ZA10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Great post. I went for a Nvidia RTX 3060Ti which was insane value for money when I look at the fidelity and frame rates I can push in most games including new releases. Can't justify spending 3 times what my card cost at the time to get marginal better returns or the big sell of "ray tracing", which is a nice to have feature but hardly essential given what it costs to maintain.

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KwietStorm_BLM1d 4h ago

Well that's gonna happen when you don't really try. I want to support AMD so badly and give Nvidia some actual competition but they don't very much seem interested in challenging, by their own accord. I been waiting for them to attack the GPU segment the same way they took over CPU, but they just seem so content with handing Nvidia the market year after year, and it's happening again this year with their cancelled high end card.

MrCrimson19h ago

I think you're going to see almost zero interest from AMD or Nvidia on the gaming GPU market. They are all in on AI.

RhinoGamer881d 3h ago

No Executive bonuses then...right?

enkiduxiv22h ago

What are smoking? Got to layoff your way to those bonuses. Fire 500 employees right before Christmas. That should get you there.

Tapani21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Well, if you are 48% down in Q4 in your Gaming sector as they are, which in absolute money terms is north of 500M USD, then you are not likely to get at least your quarterly STI, but can be applicable for annual STI. The LTI may be something you are still eligible for, such as RSUs or other equity and benefits, especially if they are based on the company total result rather than your unit. All depends on your contract and AMD's reward system.

MrCrimson19h ago

Lisa Su took AMD from bankruptcy to one of the best semiconductor companies on the planet. AMD from 2 dollars a share to 147. She can take whatever she wants.

Tapani8h ago

You are not wrong about what she did for AMD and that is remarkable. However, MNCs' Rewards schemes do not work like "take whatever you want, because you performed well in the past".

darksky1d 1h ago

AMD prcied their cards thinking that they will sell out just like in the mining craze. I suspect reality has hit home when they realized most gamers cannot afford to spend over $500 for a gpu.

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