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Bethesda Was “Surprised How Few People Wanted to Take Part in PvP” in Fallout 76

Pete Hines says the team wants to keep building upon the Wastelanders update.

NecrumOddBoy1529d ago

Fallout 4 is being developed in dreams. It's a better community.

FullDiveDerail1529d ago

all this stuff will get removed..people are playing nice right now but its not legal for Sony to profit on other IPs like this. Yes this stuff has happened before

luckytrouble1529d ago (Edited 1529d ago )

Except Sony isn't profiting on those games. They already got their money for Dreams before the game has even been installed to the buyer's system.

If somebody remakes another IP in Dreams, that's just how the cookie crumbles. I find it odd that people seem to think any fan based recreation that can't actually be sold is somehow super protected. Now, if Sony actively promoted those other IP games as a reason to buy Dreams, they could get in trouble, but imitation has been going on for months and months since the original Early Access launch with zero consequences.

If you're considering fan projects that got C&D'd across the internet, that happened for reasons that ranged everywhere from using original game code to make the project, to simply being too ambitious to not end up resulting in ad revenue or otherwise. They were different beasts one and all.

Shadowsteal1529d ago

How is sony profiting off other's IPs?

cammers19951529d ago

The others may nay say you but it's definitely true what you say. I helped develop a silent Hill little big planet 2 world and it was removed due to copyright infringement.

plexdk1529d ago

They profit indirectly, from people who buy dreams, to play these creations

maelstromb1529d ago (Edited 1529d ago )

If anything, these companies that own the IPs will likely send a cease and desist to the players responsible for the development/re-working of their IPs within the Dreams landscape. Although, these circumstances open a possible new legal problem for said companies b/c I think generally copyright pertains to original works, but according to copyright.gov "...does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed." So, in the case of Bethesda and Fallout 4, they may have legal ground if they pursue Sony and Media Molecule for the latter part of that statement... though the optics of them bringing a case would not look good for them, nor do I believe they would have any chance of winning either. In the end, I firmly believe it would do more harm than good for Bethesda's already tarnished image/reputation regardless of whether they pursue legal action against Sony and/or Media Molecule or the players developing the content.

Profchaos1529d ago

Little big planet has a million Mario remakes scattered across its three titles in unaware of any legal action there

GamerRN1529d ago

Yeah, all going to disappear. You can't just use IPs penned by someone else...

sprinterboy1529d ago

I'm lost for words at your comment, I'm dumb founded.

jambola1527d ago

what about fighting games like soul caliber? amazing that they can make characters from anything and not get
in trouble
it's almost like you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about

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Muzikguy1529d ago (Edited 1529d ago )

I haven't given the game much thought but I think when PS5 drops I'll pick up Dreams as well.

OT

It's funny they would think that people even wanted PvP in the first place. That's not what Fallout is about, but then again I haven't played the games either. I do have Fallout 4 still yet to play

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lelo2play1529d ago

I thought Fallout 76 was dead already...

ChrisW1528d ago

It's been quite sometime since I've played it... So, I don't know

MasterCornholio1529d ago

How about the number of people that are playing the game?

Christopher1529d ago

FFA PvP in a world where you do nothing to stop gank mentality? And people weren't interested in it because only the top 10% ever really progressed? Color me surprised.

rainslacker1529d ago

I think if the game had been what FO players consider fun....and I do discern that group as their own thing....then maybe the people would have been willing to play PVP in FO76.

Should still have PVE though, because some people prefer that. It's a tricky thing to switch up a staple of a franchise, or even just go a specific way with a franchise that was known to do well in both areas. Imagine if Borderlands went full on MP. Like you had to play with a team. While that's a popular feature, a big one at that, I think one reason it's so successful is because it has strong SP campaigns which can be just as fun to play over and over again. FO76 went stronger in the other direction from it's core, while mostly disregarding it's core, and then making a buggy crappy game on top of that.

JackBNimble1528d ago

They could simply have pvp and pve servers like ark does.

Kaedro1529d ago

More like: Bethesda Was Surprised How Few People Wanted to Take Part in Fallout 76

cammers19951529d ago

They're idiots if they thought people actually wanted an only online fallout game. Nobody asked for it.

Magic_Spatula1528d ago

I actually wouldn't mind a properly done Fallout MMO. This 76 was just a rushed cash grab by Bethesda. If an actual Fallout MMO does happen, I hope Zenimax Studios makes it instead. They've done pretty damn good with ESO. Sure, it was meh at the start, but it's miles better now than what it used to be.

Name Last Name1529d ago

Pete Hines
"Well, I mean at the end of the day, our intention was always, we're going to put this out there, see what folks think, and then cater the stuff that we do later to their reaction.”

lol thanks for the Beta

rainslacker1529d ago

Would have made more sense to put this in as a feature of the core game, and see how it was received. If reception was luke warm, even though it was a good effort, then they'd have their answer. If it took off, then they could milk that like Activision milks COD. They'd still get their service model cash cow, the FO fans would be happy.

They're finding out like some other publishers that catering to one crowd, that can bring huge success, isn't always a prudent business decision.

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Next Battlefield Game Already Playable and Being Built by “Largest BF Team in History"

EA says the next Battlefield game is being built by the "largest Battlefield team in history," and confirms the game is in a playable state.

Kaii21h ago

“I’ve just spent a whole bunch of time with the collective Battlefield team, playing what they’re building and it is going to be another tremendous live service.”
It's just what gamers want, more live service garbage.

XiNatsuDragnel19h ago

Ik more live service is what I want /s.

_SilverHawk_18h ago

I'd like a lot more live service game / hi 5

RaidenBlack15h ago

What Henderson has leaked so far is that ... even though the dev size's large, they are playing safe this time,
so I am guessing big budgeted BF3 2.0 ... fingers crossed

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EA to Spend Billions Boosting Share Prices After Mass Layoffs

EA has announced it will engage in a shareholder-pleasing share buyback program just a couple of months after mass layoffs at the studio.

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Yi-Long1h ago

Well, anything to make those shareholders happy, I guess. They're all that matters in this industry nowadays.

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken3h ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

-Foxtrot4h ago

"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno4h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

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Profchaos3h ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

scareduser8m ago(Edited 6m ago)

Well just_looken is gone again

Everyone watch out crhistopher is online ready to defend his god sony

Anything remotely negative towards this company or any mention that is not praise you will be banned asap.

@Inverno

He mentioned that after the launch but also said they never took charge that is why they took the reigns now.

Well i will get banned now lates

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Eonjay4h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz3h ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay3h ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Tacoboto2h ago

I think 2022 killed the Series X.

2021 was a good year for Xbox though and maybe the best in a long long time, hardware and software and as a publisher. Halo Infinite launched to popularity, Forza Horizon 5 blew everyone away, Psychonauts 2 was so well received, Flight Simulator on console, Deathloop even on PS5 & PC.

But they followed that up with next to nothing. Then 2023 with Redfall, a disappointing Forza, Starfield, and 2024 leads with closures and layoffs. And some tweets reminding us Hellblade is days away.

The only disappointment with the PS5 is not enough Sony games. Xbox followed up no games with disappointing ones.

Scissorman4h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff21834h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

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