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PlatinumGames Using Kickstarter Proves That The Platform Is Pointless

It's hard to believe that after getting a big investment from Tencent, PlatinumGames still needed to resort to Kickstarter to fund a project.

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isarai1561d ago (Edited 1561d ago )

It's a tangible interest gauge. We would've likely never seen this game elsewhere. This campaign is essentially saying "look we don't know if there's enough interest in the game to justify the project. So let us know if it is worth it by preordering it". And i would rather have that than letting this game die on the Wii U.

ElementX1561d ago (Edited 1561d ago )

It's coming out in two months, it's obvious they've already decided to make a Switch port and have been working on it for a while. There's no way it would be announced and then release so quickly. As for PS4, it was planned in advance. It's not as though they are gauging anything, they just want to fund their other projects.

isarai1560d ago

Porting doesn't take much, distribution on the other hand is the major costs/ risks begin.

Palitera1560d ago

@isarai
You clearly have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

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Teflon021560d ago

They've been porting a while for sure. There's alot of playtesting and fixing in porting lol. No way with 2 months they're just going to START a port. The bigger point is it's Platinum Games. They make good games but they suck with money lol. The amount of times they blame things on other companies because they mismanaged is ridiculous lol

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Sciurus_vulgaris1561d ago

Platinum Games is trying to move towards self-publishing despite not having the finances to do so. Unfortunately for Platnium Games, despite their name, the games produced by the studio have never been huge sellers.

FallenAngel19841560d ago

Bayonetta 1, Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, & Astral Chain have been moderate successes for PlatinumGames with each title selling over 1 million. Their biggest success is undoubtedly NieR: Automata at over 4 million units.

mikefizzled11560d ago

True but I think some people assume a publisher just slaps their name on a project and sends it to market. It's a dangerous line to walk from going from moderate success via publishers to self publishing. They're playing it safe and smart here. They've never published anything themselves so they need to make sure they get used to the process, there's plenty of things they can trip up on that have traditionally been done for them by the publishers.

DarkHeroZX1559d ago

Bayonetta 1 and Metal Gear Rising only selling 1 million across over 100 million consoles is really bad and had Nintendo never bought and exclusivity deal for Bayonetta then the game would have never existed. Nier did sell exceptional well, but then you also have to look at the mess that was Scalebound. Thee money doesn't flow so easy for them despite making quality games.

As far as what the purpose of the Kickstarter was for, I really can't say.

esherwood1559d ago

Astral chain was garbage. No way that compares to other AAA titles today. I played assassins creed bf right after which was like 6 years old and that played and looked like the newer game

rainslacker1560d ago

They can't seem to find enough investors to self publish. Even self published games tend to have behind the scene investors, or seed investors.

PhoenixUp1561d ago

“The creators of the wildly popular Bayonetta series”

Wildly popular? The series hasn’t even not to my knowledge sold more than 5 million units.

Double_O_Revan1560d ago

Lol. Yea, so 'wildly popular' that the only way a sequel wild get funded is for Nintendo to do it.

Vits1560d ago

I hate what they pulled with that campaign. It's clear that they already made the Switch port, as there is no way that 50k and 2 months would be enough to make it. That amount of money would likely not even be enough to cover Nintendo cartridges license fees, let alone develop a game.

It's just a pre-order page. And a way for them to make a quick buck.

FernDiggidy1559d ago (Edited 1559d ago )

Just don't back it and move along. No need to bitch about it.

Sono4211559d ago (Edited 1559d ago )

I've always found arguments like this to be so nonsensical, you could apply it to just about anything and it isn't even an argument.

Like if a company is doing bogus BS things, you call them out on it, period. It isn't "complaining" it's pointing out their scummy practice.

That's like saying "oh there's day one DLC so what just don't buy it and quit b*tching" or "oh there's microtransactions? So what just don't buy it and quit b*tching"

Literally the laziest argument ever created, instead of explaining why someone shouldn't be upset by a scummy practice you just say... "No need to b*tch about it." This is obviously an extreme example but I can imagine people during the holocaust saying the same thing

Non Jew: "Wow look at what they are doing to those jews! That is just awful, what scummy people the nazi's are!"

Another Non jew: "hey at least it isn't happening to you. No need to bitch about it."

Sidewinder-1559d ago (Edited 1559d ago )

Just don't reply to the comment and move along. No need to bitch about it.

/ lol sarcasm xD

bluefox7551560d ago (Edited 1560d ago )

It really is a risky proposition, the success:failure ratio with crowdfunding ain't great, but tbf, maybe it isn't with venture capitalism either. Crowd funding does seem more transparent at least.

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VR MOBA 'Mecha Party' Is Now Available On Steam & PSVR 2

Mecha Party brings the VR MOBA to Europe and Asia on PSVR 2 and Steam, while the Quest 3 version targets a summer release.

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Take-Two Head Denies Closing OlliOlli World, Kerbal 2 Devs

Take-Two head Strauss Zelnick has denied closing Rollerdrome developer Roll7 or Kerbal Space Program 2 studio Intercept Games.

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-Foxtrot1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

That's hilarious because he did and said the same thing with 2K Marin who developed Bioshock 2

They've been closed since 2013 but not officially acknowledged

He just doesn't want the backlash so pretends there's no issue.

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New PlayStation Handheld Reported Again, Supposedly Runs PS4 Games

Another leaker has claimed that a PSP/PS Vita style PlayStation handheld is in the works, and it'll supposedly support PS4 games.

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anast1d 5h ago

If this is true, it will crush everything for the price.

VenomUK16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Needs to be a PS5 portable.

Cacabunga16h ago

PS4 native with PS5 remote play capabilities. Would be sweet.

And let PS Portal support cloud streaming for all PS+ games.

anast15h ago

Going off all the pricing behavior of Sony to this point. I'm willing to bet it will be cheaper than the Steam Deck. And when the price is revealed and I am right, send me a message.

Cacabunga15h ago

Could be an attempt to counter switch 2 which will have PS4 power.
Imagine all the PS4 third party re releases switch 2 is going to get.. “PS4 portable” could get the exact same games once again and publishers can resell software ..

If this portable has provides PS5 remote play on top then it will have a nice argument and exclusive feature.

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crazyCoconuts16h ago

It would be a niche product like Portal. Not bad, but not mainstream. It's legacy PS4 right?

Kneetos16h ago

The switch 2 and next steam deck will be out by then and will likely be way more popular

anast15h ago

The switch 2 will be a handheld Series S for kids and the next steam deck will be ridiculously over priced for a bunch of aging CRPGS and F2P mobile style games.

Kneetos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

@Anast the switch 2 will Fortnite dance on the new Sony handhelds grave
Playstation can't compete with Nintendo there

With playstation porting all it's games to pc and by extension steam deck it pretty much makes the new pshandheld system irrelevant

Especially since all I ever hear from the Sony crowd is "I NEED graphics or I can't enjoy the game" a handheld PS4 is going the same way as Sony's handheld ps3

Hypertension1406h ago(Edited 6h ago)

If the switch 2 isn't backwards compatible, it will fail.

If this is true, then it will already have a large of games to play from the start, add ps1,ps2,psp,vita games to the mix, and it can be massively popular.

Vits14h ago

They literally charged people $199 for a bottom-of-the-barrel tablet with a DualSense controller bolted on. So I really can't see them releasing a powerful yet affordable native handheld.

Ps5conehead10h ago

I love my portal I’m handicapped and the portal lets me play on days I’m not at my best. It’s great .and the screen is admazing even though it’s not oled

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-Foxtrot1d 4h ago

If you had every PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP and PSV game then sure but I mean if it's just the PS4 why not just get a Steam Deck?

anast17h ago

You might be correct, but it depends on the price point. Also, most PC gamers wait years for Sony releases, so it might be better just to get the PS4 handheld.

crazyCoconuts16h ago

I'd be surprised if Sony reversed course and continued to put new releases on PS4. It would cannibalize their PS5 sales

MrBaskerville16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

If it supports your library, some people own more ps4 games than steam games. I know I do.

crazyCoconuts16h ago

I might buy something like this to play my old library but man those old games are cheap on steam. This console would have to be cheap to make sense. I don't see it happening

MrBaskerville15h ago(Edited 14h ago)

@CrazyCoconuts
I also think it sounds a little off. I would probably buy if it could run Ps5 games, but that sounds expensive. Being ps4 only is a little limiting I think.

But if it ran all ps4 titles and new stuff created for the handheld. then it could be interesting. Basically a Vita that just happened to come with a huge ass backlog of existing games.

SegaSaturn66915h ago

Deck is very viable option given how good PS3 and switch emulation have become. Even new releases are chugging along at 30fps.

Lexreborn215h ago

To be fair, I have a lot of ps4 games I don’t have on steam that is can play on my ps5 but I choose to play ps5 games on my ps5.

I also haven’t rebought any of my PlayStation exclusives on PC because I own them on my ps4/5 and even the upgraded ways that rival the pc version. So, if I wanted to play them on my steam deck I would still have to buy them again which if I bought the 6 top games Spider-Man 1,2, mm, horizon, fw , GoW and ragnarok and GoT with LoU1,2. It would more then. Likely be the cost of this device.

So, instead of double dipping I would buy the handheld and if it has a playable sf6 that actually works online (steam deck is not functional) I think I would want it for myself

Vits14h ago

If you have them in digital form, for sure. Because I don't see Sony giving you a digital copy of your old physical PS4 games. That doesn't sound like them at all.

And also, Steam doesn't depend on PS4 games. PC got more games that generation than all the consoles combined. The ports of PlayStation games are just one of the cherries on top of the cake.

Lexreborn29h ago

@vits I do have them in digital form which is why I said from my perspective. I also have a steam deck but that doesn’t mean everything runs on it which not everything is playable. And as I am also stating the perks of why people WOULD want them even while having a steam deck it’s weird to see people disagreeing purely because I wouldn’t want to double dip financially.

But even in the event you have physical copies of games, if you have ps plus most if not all of the ps4 games are there. So, it’s not like the options are non existent and people can’t find VIABLE reasons to purchase the device.

If people are justifying the portal, they can justify a dedicated portable. The desire to make it seem like people can only own one thing these days is an odd occurrence.

Vits8h ago

@Lexreborn2
Then for sure, if you already have your library in digital form, something that can tap into it is definitely a good deal. That's basically the same reason why the Steam Deck is popular with PC and Steam users in general, because their library is available on it.

PS Plus is an extra cost though, and those games aren't yours. So I get where you are coming from, but that is a different discussion. As for the Portal, I don't get how people justify that piece of crap either, but they sure did so I can see a PS Vita 2 being sucessful. I don't see it being cheap or better value than the Steam Deck or any Windows Handheld, unless Sony really makes some radical changes.

As for why people want one device to rule them all instead of a bunch of them, it's likely because most people here are adults. If I recall correctly, the N4G user base is around their mid-30s. At this point in life, the issue is not usually owning things but actually having time to use them.

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Because if you already have a large digital library of PS4 titles and this plays PS4 games you don't need much more than the system. It's also rumoured to play some ps5 games.

If you buy a steam deck you have to re buy your library.

Eonjay2h ago

If you are already in he PS ecosystem you probably have hundreds of digital PS4 games. Especially if you are on PSPlus Extra. These folks, of which there are millions upon millions would probably rater have access to the games they already own vs buying them all again on Steam.

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MeteorPanda18h ago

I still play my vita. The oled screen was too good for it's time. I obviously had to home brew it but playing my old snes/ps1 games on it is so good.

Skuletor17h ago

How many people will buy this at launch? As a Vita owner, I'd definitely hold back after how Sony's support for that turned out.
Also, PSP played near PS2 quality games, PS Vita played near PS3 quality games, shouldn't the next Playstation handheld be aiming for near PS5 quality?

MeteorPanda16h ago

the sadest thing on vita support for me was the removal of Close? The app that let you see local players and what they were playing. i made friends back in the day for co op that way lol.

I think it was privacy breaching? such a shame.

Skuletor16h ago

Vita had so much promise, I wonder what it would have taken for Sony to have been more supportive. GTA: San Andreas Stories would have probably brought more sales alone, if they could have gotten that. I was disappointed we never really got anything on the same level as Killzone: Mercenary after that game, which looked amazing running on the Killzone 3 engine. Would have loved to see new entries of PS IP like Infamous, God of War etc, Sony really dropped the ball and using proprietary memory cards that were ridiculously priced didn't help, if they were smart, they'd have sold them cheaper since they were mainly being used to store stuff people were paying for in their store anyway, lol.

anast15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

The people that remember the vita are in the minority.

Skuletor10h ago

So are the amount of people that bought it

Einhander197213h ago(Edited 13h ago)

The point would be that it plays PS4 games, PS4 is still getting games constantly.

Everyone here including yourself presumably already has a library of games to play on this.

The success of the Portal shows the value of not needing to have a separate game library.

Skuletor10h ago

I don't think it will have native PS4 support

MeteorPanda2h ago

Honestly the amount of games you could get on these cards was better value than what the switch was offering per cartidge. Cartridges got no slack from these same people.

The games for vita were very cheap, 30 dollars on average in store.

Eonjay2h ago

I mean how mich more support does the PS4 really need. It's not a new system... just a portable PS4. There are over 10 000 PS4 games available. Sony doesn't need to support it.

There are some crazy rumors out there but we don't have the technology to run a Series S in Portal mode let alone a PS5.

Skuletor2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

How many people that have a physical PS4 library will be willing to buy their games again to download these rumoured PS4 games to this rumoured portable? Until it gets officially revealed, none of us really know how this thing will operate but I will point out, Sony usually sell their consoles at low profit with the intention of making more money later in software sales. People that will be mostly playing games they already own, won't be their largest target market, most likely.

Also, hopefully it would have it's own exclusives to highlight the portables strengths too and not just games from a last gen system

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