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NVIDIA claims that the GeForce RTX2080 is more powerful than a next-gen console GPU

DSOGaming writes: "During his GTC China 2019 keynote presentation, NVIDIA's CEO Jensen Huang claimed that the GeForce RTX2080 is more powerful than a next-gen console."

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Jin_Sakai1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

A $750 GPU being more powerful than a $500 next generation console? Crazy.

Seeing as how Death Stranding won best graphics award from John at Digital Foundry considering there’s PC GPUs alone that cost twice as much as current gen consoles.

Consoles are super efficient and PlayStation developers make some of the best looking games around. PS5 exclusives will drop jaws I’m sure.

lelo2play1606d ago

Yep... a 750€ heavily overpriced graphics card better be more powerful then a next gen console...

Tech51605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

Jin_Sakai
"Consoles are super efficient "

the consoles are nothing without AMD. both Sony and MS are making their boxes to accommodate AMD's configurations. i would just accept it, PC is fueling the gaming industry as a whole. it's been that way for 3 generations now.

nirwanda1605d ago

It's never as straight forward as that, when next gen kicks in that will become the base for the game engines, so you could buy this card and the game engine maybe bound with the 8 core CPU.

Kornholic1605d ago

@Tech5 please, Sony is the only company pushing gaming forward. The best graphics have been mostly in PS4 exclusives since 2013. PC is more powerful but no one is utilizing that power.

badz1491605d ago

@kornholic

Since 2013?? LOL try 2009! Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 pretty much had reviewers and graphic enthusiasts dropped their jaw that year and 2010 with GoW3, Sony had sealed the graphic crown long before 2013.

remixx1161605d ago

@tech

Really dude? Consoles are definitely the primary fuel for the game industry right now when it comes to keeping this car running.

Imalwaysright1605d ago

Tech5

Very true. PC gaming is the backbone of the gaming industry and the amount of buthurt disagrees that you got won't change that.

Babadook71604d ago (Edited 1604d ago )

“i would just accept it, PC is fueling the gaming industry as a whole. it's been that way for 3 generations now.”

@tech5

No. AMD makes far more from consoles than it does from PC. Consoles sell far more games which in turn help fund large scale games. Consoles are what have fuelled the gaming market not PC.

SephirothX211604d ago

Yes but they came out in 2018 vs a late 2020 console. The next gen consoles are not a massive jump in compute. The rtx 2080 struggles with Ray tracing and keeping high frame rate and resolution.

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Unspoken1604d ago

Yes, it's an RTX 2080 Max-Q, the mobile edition with half the clock speed @ approx 90 watts is what he is saying can wipe the floor of Next Gen consoles. Their claim is a laptop chip released 6 months ago can beat a console which hasn't even hit the street yet.

D__RAiL1604d ago

Kornholic Yeah Sony is consistently using mocap, face capture and now they are capturing real environments . Hellblade and a Plague Tale are one of the few games outside of Sonys development that use this stuff and its a shame because it just looks way better.

Realms1604d ago (Edited 1604d ago )

@Tech5

I guess some people don't remember that PC gaming crashed hard, and it would have taken way longer for it to recover if it weren't for console gaming remaining strong. Also many developers know they can make more money on consoles that's why they port their games. I will gladly take the close nature of consoles that talented developers push vs the raw power of PC that rarely gets used to it's full potential.

DigitallyAfflicted1604d ago

Obvious things we always knew. PC will be always more powerful but it comes with hefty price tag...

ProjectVulcan1604d ago (Edited 1604d ago )

Death Stranding will look way better on PC than it does on PS4 Pro. I mean come on....that's obvious. It's 30FPS on console for a start! Double it already for a decent PC.

As for thinking Uncharted 2 lead the way for visuals in 2009, well sorry but there was this little PC game 2 entire years before that in 2007 that says otherwise.

It was a game that matched and even surpassed in some areas what early games on the next gen consoles were pushing out SIX YEARS LATER.

Crysis. Absolutely nothing on console got REMOTELY close to that game for 6 entire years, not some 720p 30FPS PS3 game. Just on high settings and 1080p native (which was achievable on reasonable hardware in 2009) it was glorious and a generation beyond everything on PS3.

Geez some people know nothing....

Zenbaby3691604d ago

@realms I'm not sure consoles helped pc gaming recover so much as they probably assisted in the crash?
@babadook7 Intel is far more computers than AMD so uh..duh AMD makes more on console? Also your statement about console selling "far more games" is actually completely false. I don't know the numbers for this past year but the gap was pretty small last year so I doubt much has changed.

rainslacker1604d ago

@Tech5

If PC is fueling the gaming industry, why are all games for PC always 2-4 years behind the current hardware available from these hardware makers. Both in design, and features? Sometimes they get some of the new features tacked on, but it's typically a while before the newest cards start getting used.

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Vegamyster1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

The other guy doing the show with him gave it to Metro Expdus, DS is also coming to PC, so two multiplats won lol.

2pacalypsenow1605d ago

But it was played on a console.

So a PS4 game got that graphics award, no one knows how it looks on PC.

S2Killinit1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

It won when it was on PS4 only. lol indeed.

GTgamer1605d ago

But to get metro to look like the way they showed, you needed a very strong PC death stranding amazed on just a PS4 Pro even the base ps4 version looks fantastic soooooooooo🙄

Vegamyster1605d ago

2pacalypsenow

Judging by pretty much every other mulitiplat on the market, i'm sure it will look better.

S2Killinit

OP is acting obviously to the advantages of more powerful hardware on PC, you want all the bells and whistles you're going to pay a lot more. When DS comes to PC it won't be 1080p/Checkboard 4k at 30 fps obviously, using Hardware below the RTX 2080 i'm sure 60 fps at higher resolution's won't be a challenge based on other games available. It's also just two guys from Digital Foundry talking about which games they thought looked best this year and each gave two different answers, it's merely a fun video.

GTgamer

That's because a lot is going on, of course you need a strong PC when you're using real time global illumination instead of it being baked in ect.

Unspoken1604d ago (Edited 1604d ago )

John is also an incredibly bias shill less about tech than Alex and Richard. Can't take any of his reviews or recommendations seriously. Death Stranding does have some great motion/facial capture tech copied straight into the game for the in game cutscenes/movies which means less work for artist, ironically, and much less stress on the engine due to the scripted nature.

Putting it On PC will make it look that much better if the don't do a worthless job on porting it.

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fr0sty1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

That 2080 won't get maxed out until long after the consoles release, that's the issue. PC games aren't just written to run on the top of the line hardware, they have to make sales to the millions of PC owners with mid-range gear, so they make games targeted at mid-rage that can run at higher quality, resolutions, and framerates on top-tier machines. Consoles, being a closed ecosystem, they can do a lot more with maximizing power without having to worry about it eating into their potential install base.

Hungryalpaca1605d ago

I just wish companies like Crytek back in the day of OG crysis still existed. Pushing PC hardware as far as possible.

Shame really.

fr0sty1604d ago

That's why they don't do that anymore, not that many people have top of the line PCs to game on, and when you make games just for those people, you don't sell a lot of games.

mkis0071605d ago

It doesn't cost anywhere near that price to make the graphics card. They just have to sell them at high markups to cover the cost of selling so few ( relatively).

galmi1605d ago

"Seeing as how Death Stranding won best graphics award from John at Digital Foundry considering there’s PC GPUs alone that cost twice as much as current gen consoles."

This isnt really an argument, the game will look better on PC, besides that was John's opinion, while the other guy picked Metro Exodus

Zeref1605d ago

You know those consoles must be something else when NVIDIA, the best GPU maker feels threatened by them.

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CaptainHenry9161604d ago (Edited 1604d ago )

I did not spend $750 for this card. More like $600 but I got a good deal for it and two free games

gamer78041604d ago (Edited 1604d ago )

agreed, the first in-engine footage we saw of hell blade 2 already dropped many jaws, can't wait til we see more footage from MS and Sony's next gen consoles.

babadivad1604d ago

They will be more powerful.

NeoGamer2321604d ago

Consoles are not super efficient. Consoles are designed to optimize cost and still deliver a good gaming experience that can be built upon for 3-5 years. The attraction of consoles to developers is their limited number of configurations/revisions. Whereas gaming PCs can have billions of configurations/revisions, consoles have less then 10 configurations/revisions in their lifetime, making targeting them in development "super efficient". There is no tech efficiency in a console that cannot be achieved or exceeded by PC.

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Double_O_Revan1605d ago

No $***!! The Card alone costs more then the whole console. It had better be better than a console.

derek1605d ago

The card alone is f**king rip just like all of Nvidia 's cards.

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specialguest1604d ago

Tell that to the butt hurt console gamers lol. The CEO of Nvidia made a factual statement at a keynote presentation. It's his job to sell their products

ChrisW1604d ago

I'm fairly certain they meant the RTX 2060...

Silly peons!!!

babadivad1604d ago

The 2080 is 10.7 TF. The Navi architecture has brought AMD and Nvidia's theoretical performance (TF number) to parity.

The SeX is going to be 12 TF. It's gonna have more and faster RAM. The PS5 is probably gonna be right around the same power as the SeX.

Both consoles as they stand now ARE gonna be more powerful than the 2080.

Evilryusam1604d ago (Edited 1604d ago )

Ok can you guys stop acting like you know pc gaming at all? Tera Flops have never mattered as a measure performance. GPU performance is only measured by three things, Core clock speeds, Memory clock speeds, and amount of memory.

babadivad1604d ago

@Evilryusam

"Tera Flops have never mattered as a measure of GPU performance."

This is probably the most brain dead thing I've read on this site. That's saying a mouthful.

You clearly have no fucking clue what you're talking about. TF absolutely IS a valid measurement of GPU performance.

What you can't do (mostly) is compare TF across different architectures.

10 TF of the Navi architecture out performs 10 TF of GNC.

And gpu performance scales linearly in TF within the same architecture.

The GTX 2080 is 10.07 TF" it is out performed 100% of the times by the 2080 Super at 11.4.

Also, boosting the core clocks ups the TF, of the card you moron.

I don't know why I'm bothering explaining this to a simpleton like yourself. It's not like you even understand anything I've just said anyway.

isarai1605d ago

Well yeah, consoles never had high end GPUs. They dont really need to as they can program closer to the metal given the static specs consoles have. Not saying it'll outperform or rival high end cards like the 2080, but the tend to get a lot of out their relatively moderate GPUs. I mean look at RDR2 on ps4, and thats running on a damn mobile GPU meant for tablets

Sophisticated_Chap1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

I figure that the RTX 2080 Super will beat next gen consoles in performance. This is because I believe that the RDNA2 NAVI GPU that the consoles will be using will be a modified version of the RX 5700 or RX 5700 XT, with hardware excelerated ray tracing, which will be an equivalent to either the RTX 2060 Super(compared to the RX 5700) or the RTX 2070 Super(compared to the RX 5700 XT). This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it will be good to finally find out what the next consoles are using, so I can beat it with my next PC build for next gen.

Twignberries1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

Enjoy next gen PC elitists! Spending more time focusing on your FPS counters in the corner of the screen and jizzing out over your max AA and AF settings, while console gamers enjoy the most cinematically immersive experiences available (playstation as always).

Image settings and tech specs don't mean shit when devs rely more on the bells and whistles GPU manufacturers have to offer them to tack onto their games, than relying on talent, perseverance and innovation in the art they produce through their visuals. I'll take the incredible experiences a PS exclusive has over a crispest version of an average multiplat.

Doink1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

"enjoy the most cinematically immersive experiences available (playstation as always)" Imao

Hungryalpaca1605d ago

This was probably the cringiest thing I’ve ever read.

yoshatabi1605d ago

Both have great games to immerse yourself in. Get over yourself

Twignberries1604d ago

Check number one losers. Digital Foundary. THE most reliable, unbiased tech/visual analysis source on the web PERIOD. Stay deluded.
https://youtu.be/y_nYcbQv2x...

tontontam01604d ago (Edited 1604d ago )

Yup it's amazing how the devs are able to make these games look so beautiful on 7 year old hardware. That's why I bought my pc so that I can play these graphically impressive games at a higher frame rate, I will even crank the graphics settings down to match console quality graphics to increase framerate.

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Whitey2k1605d ago

Actually ps5 gpu rumoured to be if not. More powerful then a rtx2070 super and sits between that and an rtx2080. But who knows nobody knows for sure

Hungryalpaca1605d ago

Not going to happen. Unless they plan on charging $800.

Whitey2k1604d ago

@Hungry if the rumoured ps5 gpu to run at 2ghz then it could be doesnt mean sony is gonna charge u arm and a leg to buy it

SkatterBrain1604d ago

but if the Cpu and Gpu are both made by AMD then there could be less of a barrier than say Nvidia card and Intel cpu , AMD can give the unused CPU Power in something to help out the Gpu or vice versa

Whitey2k1604d ago

@Skatter that's what the cell was good for as it acted like gpu aswell a cpu but hard 2 program for if amd cpu acted the same as cell and easy to program like a normal cpu then sony could of easily made an semi custom 12 core cpu. 8 core as normal usage and the 4 core can offset the gpu load gives more powerful gpu to enhance the gfx more an achieve 4k 60fps or maybe higher

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RedDevils1605d ago

With the essay you put out, trying to make yourself look smart, but damn you're not very bright aren't you? "I figure" Lmao isn't it captain obvious?

Cueil1604d ago

No... Likely to be using next Navi with AMD RT tech

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ssj271605d ago

Show me. Prove it. Because last time I chech a outdated 7 years ago and let not even talk about today won best graphics games few days ago by every expert. How about nvidia stars making games for their overprices powerful equipment then prove it and show us they are truly good. This is a constructive comment.

tontontam01605d ago

Can't wait to play the game that won the best graphics @ 60 fps or I hope I can run it @ 100+ fps.

But for now I'm enjoying that game @ 30fps.

ssj271605d ago

So now fps equals better traffics?
And we are talking about a 7 years old technology lol or to be fair the pro is like only 5 but the main game base its been used and done on a 7 year old tech that was already very outdated lol and look better than any oc games . Sure even atary can be played in 1000 fps wow how amazing. Since 30fps is playable. Sure 60 or120 is better but i am talking about graphics here. And your attack had to be changed into fps. Weak weak weak.

And the disagree are from haters without brain. Why wouldn't you want nvidia to start making their own game to usetheir hardware at max potential? That's a good thing in my view

Hungryalpaca1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

Um. The 2070 runs games beyond 144fps dude. PS5 isn’t going to do that.

These things can be broken down by numbers. The ps5 isn’t coming anywhere near $1000 gpus.

ssj271604d ago

Again with the fps lol we are talking about a game that running on a outdated 7 year old hardware looking better than their most moderd stuff. A d running at 30fps its not like is unplayable or something. 30fps is good! Sure more frames is better i agree nobody is arguing that. And depending on the experience more frames dont always equal better. That depends on the experience . If you want cinematic best reference is 24fps if you want accion fast paste the more frames the better

Hungryalpaca1604d ago

No ssj, 24 fps is not acceptable for games at all.

More frames is ALWAYS better.

My god you people pull the weirdest excuses out of your ass

Giblet_Head1605d ago

1. Nvidia isn't a developer. They're a tech company specializing in development of graphic processing hardware. That's like asking Wacom to make an animated movie just because they make the hardware that makes it possible.

2. Your grammar is atrocious as fuck.

ssj271604d ago

Its asking them to shut up or prove it. Its not like anything else. Since a game in a 7 year old hardware look better than any on theirs most modern stuff.

Hungryalpaca1604d ago

He doesn’t understand tech at all. It’s pretty clear he’s not too bright. He just told me 24fps is better than a higher framerate because of the cinematic experience.

I laughed so hard I started wheezing.

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AMD Could Revolutionize Handheld Gaming In 2024

Shaz from GL writes: "AMD could spur the beginning of a new era in handheld gaming with their upcoming APUs"

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rlow123h ago

To me the most important hardware is the battery. Doesn’t matter how powerful the chips are.

ABizzel122h ago

Eh…. It’s a combination of multiple things.

The battery is hugely important as it allows you to have ideally 4 - 5 hour gaming sessions.

The more powerful the processor the more games developers can share to the handheld, nd of course the better said games perform.

From there display, software, and ergonomics matter, as a good display/software will allow games to be more vivid, run at variable fps 30/40/60 ideally, and good ergonomics means it’s comfortable to play for said 4 - 5 hours. Everything else is gravy at that point.

redrum063h ago

Of course it matters how powerful the chips are for it to be future proof. Don't you want to be able to play new games?

Neonridr2h ago

the Switch proves that you don't need the most cutting edge power out there to be successful.

RaiderNation2h ago

@Neonrdr that doesn't prove anything because only Nintendo could get away with that. Their games aren't the most complex/graphically ambitious and Nintendo fans don't care.

Vits2h ago

@Neonridr

If anything, the Switch proves the exact point "redrum06" was making. Yes, it might be successful, but it's definitely not future-proof. Just look at how many games and franchises completely skip the platform.

Marcus Fenix4h ago

There’s no way you’re getting that 40CU 16-core APU in a handheld. That’s too hot and power hungry for that. The highest end APU they’re suggesting is going to end up in gaming laptops that can cool a 100W chip.

Jingsing4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I think these articles get things a little out of perspective, Steam Deck has sold around 3 million and Switch has sold 140 million. But if you are browsing certain parts internet you'd think the Steam Deck had sold over 100 million. If articles are going to continue to circulate like this and continue to put the Steam Deck in the same arena then I'm comfortable calling the device a flop.

Neonridr2h ago

Steam Deck, while considerably more popular due to it's lower barrier of entry, is still a niche device with the likes of the ROG Ally and others.

I own one and it's really nice to be able to play some games on the go or in bed, but it'll never fully compete with a system like the Switch.

Skuletor1h ago

Especially when they're not in the same price range, the Switch is considerably cheaper.

gold_drake29m ago

sure but theres still a limit to what u can put in there ha. power consumption would be the biggest hurdle. and cooling.

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Activision team is opening a new game studio in Poland 'Elsewhere Entertainment' to build new AAA IP

Microsoft's Activision subsidiary announced today that it is opening a new game development studio to take advantage of the huge talent pool growing in Poland. It'll be the second Activision studio based in the region, joining Infinity Ward Krakow, although this studio is, in fact, not working on Call of Duty.

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Psychonaut8548m ago

They’re not working on Call of Duty? Give it time.

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Ubisoft to Focus on "Return to Leadership" in Open World Genre, Expand Live Service Experiences

Ubisoft says they are focusing on two "core verticals," and that's to return as a leader in the open world genre, and live service games.

enkiduxiv1d 18h ago

Calling Ubisoft a leader in open world gaming at any point in time would be like calling Dollar General a leader in retail.

excaliburps1d 6h ago

Well, to be fair, they did pump out good open world games before. It was used as a template so much that people now know what it means when you say it's like an Ubi open world collectahon.

shinoff21831d 4h ago

What though? I can't think of one game they had where I liked anything about it. Atleast since the ps3/360 Gen

Kornholic1d 3h ago

If they have never been the leader in open world gaming, then explain me this: why does almost every open world game follow the same tired old Ubisoft open world formula?

Follow the Leader.

Aphrodia15h ago

YO dont' talk bad about the General. There'll be problems...

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isarai1d 17h ago

You were never the leader bro 🤣

shinoff21831d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I don't think they were ever the leader tbh. I've never really cared for any of their open world games. I do wanna try watch dogs 2 because it looks like it's set in San Fran. Looked interesting

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